March 15, 2010 08:30 PM
Open Thread
One photoshopper's take on an old campy French magazine cover.
And a reminder that Michael Moore will be on live chat at BraveNewFilms tomorrow at 3pm Eastern / Noon Pacific.
Open thread below...
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Executive Producer of The Professional Left Podcast. On staff at Crooks and Liars since 2007. Master's degree from Harvard. Happy wife of Driftglass. Mother of three geniuses. Obsessive knitter. Blogs at http://bgalrstate.blogspot.com. .
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Speaking of Bachmann, I filled out the census today. As a genealogist I consider it a duty. ;)
I haven't watched the Who Do You Think You Are? show yet (I have the first two episodes waiting for me on DVR), but I hope the Census Bureau thought to sponsor the show. You can bet Ancestry.com will be playing up their census record image files in the commericals.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
With all of the talent in the US , I'm shocked at how many ideas come from the UK for tee vee shows
me-oww!
there's something really weird about Bachmann's eyes? I swear they never blink. What drug is that?
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Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
makes me think of Salome when she asks for John the Baptist's head.
mainlined?
me-oww!
blaspheme. :P
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
But I'd close them if I saw Bachmann coming, just to avoid being turned into a pillar of salt.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
feeling she could be one of the undead...
And actually, the whole lot of 'Salem's Lot at the end of the book with all the vampires running around is a good metaphor perhaps for the GOP.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
If she survives that, then I'll beat her with my crucifix as needed.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"Been awake for days, eyes wide open, on speed."
I've been awake for days, eyes wide open, on POT! How do you explain that?
extended run times would be a nice bonus...:)
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Tweeking on C&L fastfeat? I was trying to imagine what it would be like playing poker on acid. Probably similar...
would probably number in the dozens of names, and I'd be on everyone else's...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
the housewife vampire sits up in the funeral home with her eyes wide open, I pictured Bachmann the whole time.
She's scary.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://history1900s.about.com/od/1960s/p/char...
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
It's that family on C-Street that gives me nightmares!
Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.
That's the truth. Rigid religious ideologues and their psychotic quests for religious hegemony have killed many, many more than Charles Manson.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
**NIGHTMARE ON C-STREET**
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
to parody.
in years! :O
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
"The Monsters Are On C-Street"
(Whereupon the neighborhood goes psycho and attacks one another because some unseen force is diddling with their power, phones, and media.)
uncle of the girl who was my best friend in high school worked his cellblock. The guards were under instruction to under no circumstances look that nutter in the eyes. I guess he bites?
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Since he's 75 now he might gum you.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
But good point though. He prolly has dentures now if that. :S
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
You know who else? Shirley Phelps Roper!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blueblueblue/325...
picture*
Jesus these extremists with mental problems scare me...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
That people like Bachmann, Manson and Roper must be related somehow. Or have some sort of incurable dementia.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
say "I'm a predator and you're prey."
Charlie didn't kill anyone.He didn't.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
That made me laugh :D
unicycle.
Oh boy, I have a wild imagination... :S
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Rush Limpbaugh made a reference to BTO a week or so back I knew was ripe for satire. Glad to see someone had the time to take advantage!
not sure they'd want to be associated with a crazy of this magnitude! ;)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
They stutter so that means they're good heart'd guys with senses of humor...
Chris Dodd's Financial Reform Package:
Michael Moore Explains "What The Citizens Have To Do!"
Health Care Reform Bill:
Michael Moore The Health Care Reform Bill Is A Death Sentence!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
I was happy to see that Michael Moore wants Dennis Kucinich to stay true to his principles and vote "NO" on the bill unless:
1.) There is a public option
2.) His amendment saying that states have the right to opt out of the legislation and go to a Single Payer system without the threat of lawsuits from the insurance companies.
If Kucinich caves....THAT would spell a real loss of "hope" for me.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/15/pali...
Go Alan!
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
Has Grayson been borrowing Jon Stewart's writers?
Here's some more.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
"I look forward to an honest debate with Governor Palin on the issues, in the unlikely event that she ever learns anything about them."
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Can you just picture David Gregory on MTP saying something like, "Sen. Grayson, those seem like rather mean-spirited words at someone who you know is being coached to bring her up to speed on current events. Would you care to amend your statement about Ms Palin?"
AG: "Why yes, David, I meant to say former Governor Palin. I've been too busy working for my constituents to remember that she'd quit!"
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Love this man...a natural who knows how and when to kick Republicans in the crotch.
And funny too.
methinks that Randy Bachman might not be too impressed being associated with such a wingnut. American Woman...indeed!!
Out of all the doozies you have posted bluegal, this one might be tops.
Thanks for the laughs!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
It's a masterpiece, bluegal!
first Catholic priest to come out of the closet publically, known to some as the Catholic Harvey Milk, passed away last month.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
McCain & Lieberman go on and on, complaining about how the Obama administration has gone on and on complaining about Israel pissing in Biden's face, and state their fervent hope that everyone will let matter rest:
McCain & Lieberman Rush To Israel's Defense! pt.1
.. and more fervent hope that people will stop talking about it ..
McCain & Lieberman Rush To Israel's Defense! pt.2
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
It was no "coincidence" that while Vice President Biden was visiting Israel they decided to approve 1600 new housing units in disputed East Jerusalem.
The fact that Palestinians half-jokingly complain that "every time a U.S. official comes to town, Israel announces another controversial housing project" makes it clear that Israel not only does not care what the position of the U.S. is related to it's construction on lands it seized during the 1967 Middle East war, it obviously feels it does not need the $300 billion we "give to it" each and every year.
The United Nations and most of the world view Israel's settlements as illegal under international law, but Israel continues to expand them. And now, in the face of war crimes charges resulting from their latest major military strikes in Gaza, we have Oriella Ben Zvi, a Tel Aviv political consultant declaring, "There's a bunker mentality. Picking a fight with Biden is a way of saying, 'We don't take dictates from anyone, not even the U.S.' "
Okay, I will accept that logic. Then the next step should be for the U.S. State Department to demand that A.I.P.A.C. register as a foreign agent (which would mean they would no longer be allowed to interfere in U.S. political elections/lobbying), that all illegal settlements built since the end of the 1967 war must be returned to the Palestinians, that all existing construction must be stopped immediately and that Israel must allow the Palestinians to use all the seized land to create a viable Palestinian state.
And until such measures are adopted, all U.S. funding to Israel will be cut off.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Gee willikers, that would pay for the health care bill 3 times over!
That was supposed to be $3.0 billion/year!!!!
Thanks for the correction Ron!!!
(But even $3.0 billion/year directed to a U.S. healthcare system wouldn't hurt!!!)
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
but I didn't want to create some heat but wanted to bring it to your attention.
The Petraeus briefing: Biden’s embarrassment is not the whole story
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
And here's one I just found....
I wonder...WHAT THE HELL ARE MCCAIN AND LIEBERMAN UP TO WITH THIS ROTTEN BILL?????
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...
***Note: Be sure to read the "last" line of the article....
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
"...poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities..."
So, like, holding up a liquor store in South Central, for example???
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
McCain's other BFF, Georgian President Saakashvili (aka "Tie-Muncher"), has created yet another crisis in Georgia:
'Fantasy world resident Saakashvili cries wolf backing bogus news'
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
RT- aka Putin's Pravda- is not a reliable source on this.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
but they might have gotten it from RT...
me-oww!
You really need to pay more attention to world events. This stupid hoax perpetratec by Saakashvili's own TV station has been all over the news.
Here. Watch these two other broadcasts on the same story, and then write a detailed report on the differences between RT's reporting and both AP's and AlJazeera's.
Substantiate your claim that RT's reporting is not to be trusted.
AP: Georgian TV Airs Report on Russian Invasion
AlJazeera: "Russia invasion" news stirs panic in Georgia
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
I do believe that once all the dust settled it was proven beyond ANY doubt that that entire fiasco of "Russia invading Georgia" turned out to be utter B.S.
Ummm....it was Georgia that did the invading.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
anybody that followed it knows that.
I like RT.'Course,I like Al-Jazzeria .And Ian Masters 'Background Briefing' on KPFK,too.And Crooks and Liars ROCKS!
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
to hear a discussion with Jesse Ventura and to have my book, "American Conspiracies" signed.
I was pleased to hear that Jesse's book is outselling Karl Rove's. Ventura said that three books came out this week. His, Dog the Bounty Hunter's and Rove's. He said all he cared about was beating out Rove. I hope he does. I bought two.
And if you like Al Jazeera, here is an interview with Ventura about his new book:
http://eclipptv.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I followed it, too, and you know what I see now? That Russia, which, before the war controlled it's own end of the passes and tunnels through the Caucasus Mountains, now controls both ends of those passes and tunnels.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
what's your point? Are we supposed to be trying to control all the energy sources around Russia too? I don't think so.
And Viktor Yuschenko just had an allergic reaction to some shellfish.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
...
me-oww!
It's a fact , Georgia started that and got their butts spanked by the Russians . The good old US of A sticking it's nose in every where in the region . The Orange revolution instigated by the US worked out real good for the Ukrainians didn't it ? South America , Eastern Europe , you name it , there we are stirring up conflict and trouble .If we run out of enemies , invent one , make one .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
500 years of Russian expansion into its neighbors borders, followed up by Russification programs which force emigration of native peoples across the empire, force the Russian language and culture on those who remain, then use Russians in those parts of the former empire to keep them from asserting long-term independence from the empire?
Sorry, real problems facing Georgians, Ukranians, Latvians, Lithuaninans, Belarusians and Poles. We haven't been sticking our noses in- they've been asking for our help. And, for the most part, we've steered clear of giving them help.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
who should we invade, Russiaa? Sometimes these other countries have to work out their own problems.
But the patterns of Russian history tell me that they will be crossing their neighbors' borders again, and soon.
You need to get a grip on the Abkhazia/South Ossetia situation. Russia backed separatist movements there back in '95. Previously, the Soviets played "divide and conquer" by removing Abkhazia and South Ossetia from the Georgian SSR, even though the former two had been part of Georgia for a very long fucking time.
But, again, don't get me wrong. I don't view this as a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (that didn't work out quite as desired when we allied ourselves with a country that invaded Poland in 1939). Quite frankly, I think Saakashvili is a hack. But that doesn't mean Georgia should surrender its autonomy.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
It seemed to me that Saakashvilli's 2008 attack on Russia was timed to be a morale booster in the midst of McCain's presidential campaign.
"We Are All Georgians Now!"
.. remember?
Repub's overseas shenanigans getting other people killed.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
It didn't happen that way.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
:)
.. and have you finished your essay?
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
...inside of its own borders!
The Russians claimed that the Georgian military had killed 2,100 South Ossetians; when the EU investigators went in they saw that the number was actually under 200. This pales in comparison to the quarter of a million Georgians expelled from their homes by Russian-backed Abkhazian and South Ossetian separatists in '92-'93.
God damn! If this discussion was about 250,000 Palestinian refugees....
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet
your name's Lebowski, Lebowski... and your wife is Bunny
earlier today. She wanted to let me know that her oldest son had a heart attack. He is recovering but he was a smoker as I am and she's trying to encourage us all to quit. But as we got into the conversation further we went into the healthcare costs. He is 56 years old and because he always been at the low end of the income levels and for the past few years has been unemployed has no health insurance. We somehow turned to the healthcare bill and Bart Stupak and she said that she didn't want her tax dollars going for abortions either. I explained that that wasn't the case and told her that there are some Dems pushing that scenerio but our MSM is not putting out the facts and the damn republicans are stopping progress because they are committed to Obama's failure. She said don't blame the republicans. I have to apoligize somewhat because when we critisize the republicans, her being a republican takes it personally. What I may do tomorrow is call her and let her know that my rants aren't against the voter, it's against their elected officials. What they don't know because they are so misinformed is not their fault, it's the media's.
might have been prevented had he had some regular health care over the years? She'd have probably been happier. Then, how would she have felt had his heart attack been prevented and a fifteen year-old girl had had an abortion following impregnation by a molesting relative, for example. Would her son's prevented heart attack mean less to her?
Of course, the Stupjack legislation wouldn't cover the latter anyway, but a glimpse into her thinking would be telling, and a focusing on her family's possible benefits might resulting in a change of opinion.
Sorry about your cousin.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
and that cousin has lived at her home most of his life. He is one of those that was never able to get over the hump when it came to getting a good paying job. He was a mechanic and we know how well they prevailed.
They go to school to learn a trade and then there are so many of them that go through that education mill they soon drove the wages down. This is happening to the computor techs now. It's getting harder and harder for future generations to have any kind of a futre.
I'm sure she's got a good heart, much like my mom, who's probably in her age group. My mom and her husband just spent two days out here in CA, sort of doting over me and my strep throat, at the request of my friend on who's couch I've been sleeping. I didn't want to bother her (What was she going to do, make me Matzo ball soup like when I was a kid?) But I hadn't seen her in a year, and she won't be around forever. And I was too proud to say I needed help.
I won't say too many things to trouble my mom when she comes to see me on her own accord.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
you were confronting her but she also was concerned on how the medical bills would be paid. I told her that she wouldn't be liable but if he was left in a trust, his share of the trust could be affected. Our system is such a mess, I only hope it works out for them.
I was scheduling some (relatively) minor surgery (a cyst or tumor on my neck that's gotten considerably larger over the last couple of years that now even my long hair barely hides it), and my mom had said originally that she would pay for it (so I could 'get a haircut and get a real job' so to speak...). But as I started getting stuff investigated, specialists and scans/tests scheduled, and possible surgeons (in CA or maybe Mexico) lined up, my mom realized that this was likely going to run into the many thousands of dollars (the reason I'd put it off so long!!)
So she suggested (and gave me the number of one of her husband's relatives who handled insurance) COBRA. As I've not recently had insurance of any significance, nor do I want to bankrupt my mom, I agreed to look into the whole deal, albeit skeptically.
Our system IS fucked. As Grayson said, just die quickly. I sometimes only wish...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
If you have any med schools around you, check and see if they have any clinics. Quite a few of them have low cost clinics that work on a sliding scale if you don't have insurance. They have a licensed MD overseeing it and med students/interns doing most of the work.
If it needs to be done on an inpatient basis, yeah it's probably going to be expensive. But if they can do it outpatient it can be reasonable. A friend of mine had a large mole removed from his back and tested for cancer for something like $100-150 or so.
A mole? I had a friend that had a gopher removed from his back. Not sure what that cost.
Was the mole cancerous? Sometimes, that can affect their visions.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Oh and check with your local health dept. They usually know where the clinics are also.
And speaking of health dept. They are a great place to get low cost vaccinations and such. I needed a Tetanus shot a few years back and it was cheaper to go there for it then to go to my Dr with insurance.
tests, opinions on scheduling my surgery and came down with strep the next day. I know there's always a risk, but I went in there healthy and mentally prepared, and shit still got me. Now surgery has to be postponed two weeks 'til strep clears. Oh well...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
sorry about your luck.
It's a really sad state of affairs when the people of the richest country ever are dying needlessly because they don't have access to proper universal healthcare, like most of the civilized world.
Shame shame shame.
far left loon >.<
"The Rule of Law and Wall Street":
http://kaufman.senate.gov/press/floor_stateme...
Somebody get those cuffs and orange jumpsuits! I think we may be needing them!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Good article.
I'd already read or heard most of the details of the fraud behind Lehman Bros, but he went into some detail I'd missed.
Above all else, the problem here seems to be enforcement, not the lack of laws.
For all the deregulation that went on and contributed to the meltdown of both the financial sector and the economy, the problem at Lehman was not the deregulation, it was the out and out fraud.
Not to say that the financial markets don't need tighter regulation; they do.
And I'm glad he sees what's happening in Greece as part of the problem. I don't know how many Americans do, but the Europeans certainly do, as Goldman Sachs' actions in Greece have destabilized the Euro.
And predictably Goldman Sachs has now shorted the euro.
Nice guys.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
is smiling from ear to ear.
Climate change is endangering sea lions. China jettisons more of our holdings. Places where it's illegal to be gay also tend to have the worst rates of HIV. The smoking gun. Freedom isn't free at the airport. Obama wants to upgrade NCLB. Further proof that the Iraq war is a lie. Bin Laden's kids have a falling out with Iran's mullahs. Bank exec tries and fails to defraud TARP. Xenophobia is always good for votes. Could the tiger go extinct? Stevens ready to call it quits.
Yeah, nothing like taking the proceeds of illegal crimes and reselling them to purchase bigger and badder equipment for the confiscating department! What's next, reselling seized dope seized to fund the more drug dogs? WTF?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Now that sounds like the america I know.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
been doing it for years, what do you think they do with the cars/houses/boats/etc that they confiscate? If they confiscate a brand new escalade from a drug dealer should they have it scrapped for the $100 in scrap fees? Or should they sell it for 30K or use it as needed?
had any say in this they should be on the side of scrapping all confiscated guns, more sales on the other (new) end
As guns may be linked to outstanding cases, requiring ballistic tests. So it's not like you can toss 'em in the junk bin.
All 'cleared' confiscated guns.
They don't during the gun buy back programs. At least not the ones I've seen. In fact they swear that they will not attempt to identify any of the people who turn them in or run any type of trace on them. Which I don't agree with, they should at least run the serial numbers on them so if they have been reported stolen they can be returned to the rightful owner.
But yes most of the confiscated firearms get tested/traced. And if the firearm was used in a crime, in some cases they keep it as evidence after the trial.
And good thing the manufactures don't have any say in it. From what I've heard my local PD is getting ready to turn in all their service sidearms. They are going from 9mm to .40 s&w. I haven't heard if they are going to auction them off or trade them into a dealer yet though. I wouldn't mind getting one of them.
Tax cheats.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/final-dest...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Afghanistan and Iraq were practice. Third time's a charm.
We will soon see if Obama becomes another Warmonger-In-Chief.
These people are trying to kill your family!
Actual quote from Bush to Matt Lauer a few years ago.
Slogan is 'The New Majority' (same as the old majority).
Meg Whitman: "We have to end sanctuary cities." (Specifically points finger at San Francisco.)
Steve Poizner: Links illegal immigration to lines at hospital emergency rooms, illegal immigation causes pain and suffering for the rest of us.
Yes folks, you heard that right:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
The Democrats are running so scared right now regarding voting for this rotten piece of legislation that they don't want their votes recorded?? They're looking for political cover??
They're seriously considering using "The Slaughter Solution" where they'll try to say "the bill has been DEEMED to have passed"?
Somebody please tell me this isn't MY PARTY!!!!
If the Republicans were trying to pull this off we'd be in the streets!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
to be a hundred bills waiting in the wings to soften the Senate bill up AFTER it passes into law...we'll see...
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