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Executive Producer of The Professional Left Podcast. On staff at Crooks and Liars since 2007. Master's degree from Harvard. Happy wife of Driftglass. Mother of three geniuses. Obsessive knitter. Blogs at http://bgalrstate.blogspot.com. .
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CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

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Some stuff you can't make up!

Mike.K.'s picture

Working at a hospital (non-medical staff), I've been shocked this week how many patients and staff I've encountered watching Beck and reading Patriot material. It's been rather depressing.

Geronimo.'s picture

Can you clarify what you mean by Patriot material? What exactly did you see them reading? Are they reading books about the Founding Fathers? The Bill of Rights? The Constitution?

As far as Glenn Beck goes..

"I have sworn on the alter of God eternal hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." ~ Thomas Jefferson


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

savannah43's picture

T-shirt on Canadian guy: "Tyranny First Responder."

Mike.K.'s picture

email from "patriot" groups, etc. I avoid reading the content, as it's not my business and inappropriate, but pictures of fat older men in "Colonial" costume with words like "Obamacare!" and "Communism!" in big red letters can be seen across the room.

Geronimo.'s picture

Last night Chicago held an Anti-War march of 1,600 - 2,000 people. This is the ONLY coverage in the media. Why do the teabaggers get the coverage when 8- diverse groups participated in this and the downtown was closed for several hours?
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=7338665


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

savannah43's picture

Well, among others, GE who has a pipeline interest in Afghanistan.

Evet's picture

Wait until people discover in the years to come IRS sanctions linked to this bill along with newly created “Health Care” cops kicking their front door because they didn’t buy mandatory insurance. I guess they too will be declared terrorists because they don’t participate in this sorry piece of fascist skullduggery.

Just about every agency of the U.S. Government has a gun toting enforcement wing including the FDA, Dept Agriculture, etc.

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

and lying going on.

and the (R)ahmocrats will declare 'victory'.


Some stuff you can't make up!

Timjoebillybob's picture

the Department of Education. They just purchased a bunch of short barreled shotguns for their enforcement group.

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CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

Today is the 7th anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of the Iraq War.

There's a temptation as we begin to end our combat presence in Iraq to search for a happy ending. But there has been no 'victory' in Iraq. We created this video as a reminder of the damage done to Iraq and to our country over the last seven years.

Moreover, we know that there will be no economic recovery here at home as long as we're spending $100 billion a year on another war that isn't making us any safer - the war in Afghanistan.

That's why we're asking everyone to report the Afghanistan War as an example of waste, fraud and abuse on the White House's official economic recovery website, Recovery.gov, today. Simply scroll down to the field marked "What" and paste this message into the text box:

"I'd like to report the waste of billions of dollars of our national wealth in Afghanistan on a war that doesn't make us safer. It's fraud to portray this as a war that increases our security, and it's abusive of U.S. troops and local civilians to drag out this war any longer. End the war so we can have real economic recovery."

Thanks to Bush, the invasion and occupation of Iraq has been a massive waste of human life and treasure. Let's not let the Obama administration make the same mistake again in Afghanistan.

Sincerely,

Robert Greenwald
and the Brave New Foundation team


Some stuff you can't make up!

Karen's picture

Robert Greenwald:

Let's not let the Obama administration make the same mistake again in Afghanistan.

I'm reminded of the following exchange from the brilliant movie, Michael Clayton Two attorneys discuss their colleague, who has unethically turned on their firm's own client (for very good reasons), putting the careers of everyone at the firm at risk:

Marty Bach: You know what he's doing? He's making their case! He's building a case against U-North!

Michael Clayton: Nobody's gonna let him do that.

Marty Bach: Let him? Who the hell is gonna stop him?!

With all due respect to your activism, Mr. Greenwald, even with a population as angry and energized as the anti-Vietnam War movement in the 1960s, we couldn't stop that war for a decade. Today's America is about one-tenth as active and ten times as propagandized and ignorant as the one from half a century ago.

How do we "not let" Obama get us stuck in Afghanistan?


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Geronimo.'s picture

... And Thanks to the Supreme Court who appointed that psychopath President after losing in Florida.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Karen's picture

I'm so fucking sick and tired of the Glen Becks and Sarah Palins of this country, I can't even bring myself to watch a spoof of them. Their mindset is so sick, so twisted, and yet, they have millions of followers in Know Knothing Knation.

I'm just about on the brink of giving up on this country. It really does take some audacity to have hope living in this Third World Nation that prances around talking about how it has the bestest of the bestest of everything possible.

We have a Declaration of Independence that is one of the greatest political documents ever written, yet even certain C&L-ers don't know what it says. Heh, one even told me it was not our founding document, that the Constitution was. To think that that person is probably one of the more politically aware in this country is quite scary.

Perhaps I should start a betting pool or something. Betting on whether the United States will be an authoritarian theocracy within 20 years. There's probably a way to set up a corporation around it, and make a lot of money. Since it's shady, it'll be protected by the laws of the U.S.

Okay, I'll stop ranting. But I will be shifting my "get out of Dodge" plans into a higher gear this year. And if I think I can get out, I probably will. So sad.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Geronimo.'s picture

McCain and Lieberman's "Enemy Belligerent" Act Could Set U.S. on Path to Military Dictatorship
http://www.alternet.org/rights/146081/mccain_...


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Karen's picture
Yep

Yeah. That's yet another sign. And naturally, it's Gone InSane and Holy Joe Lie-to-dem proposing it.

In a phrase, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OKAY.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Geronimo.'s picture

"Can't we just all go out and say things are OK?" -- President Bush, to congressional leaders during bailout negotiations - September 26, 2008


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Karen's picture

That was indeed reported to be what the little fucker muttered.

Personally, I'm skeptical. I mean, it's a complete sentence.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Taarak's picture

James Buchanan felt the same way as he was leaving office in 1861. He was sick of the political BS and wanted to get the hell out of dodge. He left the mess the country was in to Lincoln. The following years didn't turn out so well.

Karen's picture

Yeah, but I'll be doing it to protect myself. I won't just be leaving behind a mess I helped create as the country's leader.

Know Knothing Knation has made itself perfectly clear. If it achieves the kind of control it seeks, its people aren't going after Jewish Americans or African Americans. They're coming after atheists, left-wingers, and, of course, LGBT Americans.

In other words, they're coming after me. With relatives already having suffered through one Holocaust just two generations back from me, I'd have to be quite foolish indeed not at least to have an escape plan ready if need be.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Taarak's picture

Protect yourself as you deem necessary. I don’t want to see you go. I don’t want to see any intelligent voice of reason silenced. In times like these those voices are drowned too much already in a sea of idiocy. If all that’s left are the idiots, we’re in for another really bad time. If everyone throws up their hands in disgust like Buchanan did, then we’re in for what he got.

Karen's picture

Oh, I really don't want to go. I believe in this country. I believe in its ideals. It's not in any way easy for me to think about leaving. It is actually quite painful.

Unlike the Beckerhead morons, I really do love America. The idea of America. Not hot dogs, apple pie and church, but the simple, but profound idea that each person should be free to think what she wants, live her own life, pursue her own happiness.

But what's been happening here is very frightening to me. Just today, a colleague of mine was engaged in a very frustrating effort to get her client out of prison. She'd already successfully litigated the case, and the judge had ordered the client released. But the wardens just didn't feel like complying. They weren't going to let him out. They didn't like the idea, so they figured it was up to them. It took a lot of threatening to get to the point where it now looks like he might be released soon. Might. Because people in those kinds of positions are being empowered more and more to ignore them durned libural judges, and they know they'll get away with it.

With a country run behind the scenes by corporate interests, a nefarious shadow theocracy called The Family, and increasingly authoritarian judges not well versed in the Constitution, it's becoming harder and harder to have hope.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

circumstances. It's the MSU (make shit up) attitude coupled with the "what are you going to do about" it triple dog dare. If I hear the words, "It's the industry standard" one more time, I will probably have to use my baseball bat on some unsuspecting suit.

Karen's picture

Exactly. It's the "What are you going to do about it?" attitude, and it's becoming more and more prevalent.

I'm not joking around. These wardens are literally saying to the defense attorneys, "We really don't think we should release him right now."

It's not their decision. The decision has been made. By a judge. The wardens should be jailed for non-compliance.

And now that they're (hopefully) going to relent, the defense team has to make sure they don't "release" him simply by opening the doors, and sending him on his way. The federal prison is in the middle of the desert, and they just might pull that kind of shit.

I haven't even mentioned yet that the client is ill, and needs to be taken to a hospital for surgery. They're not letting that happen either.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

savannah43's picture

This is what happens when judges do not hold anyone in contempt. Idle threats become professional courtesy? Damn!

Abbybwood's picture

Do a freakin' press release.

Once you get the media involved, suddenly shit starts happening.....


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Karen's picture

If I really have to make a prediction (and this isn't my case, so I don't know a lot of details), I'd say the client will eventually be released. And life will go on for the client.

But no one will be held accountable. It'll be chalked up to "the system" and how it just never runs smoothly, and we can't expect it to.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

MountainMan23's picture

You know a bail bondsman who's connected with the guards on the inside.

For a few thousand dollars (to cover expenses and a cut for himself) the bondsman will get your guy out pronto.

He finds a guy in the drunk tank, say John Jones, and tells the guard on the inside that when the call comes down for John Jones, to bring Your Guy up instead.

Then the Bondsman IDs Your Guy as John Jones and Your Guy walks.

Easy!


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Karen's picture

The cannons of ethics forbid us attorneys from participating in anything like that. ;)


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

MountainMan23's picture
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the cannons eh?

cannons of ethics .. why not?
we got swords of justice !


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

ron's picture

cannons to blast the walls down.

Karen's picture

Sometimes typos are fun. :)


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

MountainMan23's picture

A serial killer was sprung by his buddies paying off the bondsman like I described back in the city where I once lived.

He went on to torture, rob and kill an elderly couple with the assistance of their granddaughter.

Yeah .. our "criminal justice system" is riddled with corruption.


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Taarak's picture

The United States of America will not last forever. Nothing ever does. It may very well be that we are on the brink of a new Dark Ages where enlightenment is irrelevant, and the experimental ideal that all men are created equal is disregarded. If that’s the case, that too will not last. But if that is the case, I will not go willingly unto that dark night.

In the mean time, your colleague is fighting for that ideal. That’s important. Every fight is important as is every whisper. Sometimes the whispers aren’t heard and sometimes the fights are not won. But as long as we continue, so does hope.

Karen's picture

I appreciate your efforts to cajole me back to realistic optimism. I really do. And I'm in a more pessimistic mood than usual. It's been a long day.

I'm still fighting the good fight. Beginning a political group of my own in my home state. We'll see how it goes. And I won't go gently into that good night either.

Yes, every fight is important. And sometimes things do work as they're supposed to. I won a child abuse case recently. Full acquittal. I can say with absolute confidence that my client was innocent. And the jury took our side without too much deliberation.

It was exhausting though. Knowing that they didn't have much of a case, the prosecution charged my client with battery and child abuse under separate statutes, and offered a deal: Plead to one, and we'll drop the other. It was an end-run around double jeopardy to try to frighten us out of going to trial. My client was very brave, and insisted on a full jury trial.

But hey, that's why we have juries. To reserve the ultimate fact-finding judicial power for the people, not the government. And it did work in the end.

It can just get very tiring, especially watching all the corruption, propaganda and hate.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

ron's picture

the fear of our judicial system, clients plea to the lower charge. It happens everyday in traffic courts.

Karen's picture

Sadly, they fear the judicial system for good reason.

Jurors do not presume you innocent, no matter how much the judge reminds them that it's their legal obligation to do so.

Jurors love to compromise. If the prosecution says you're guilty of murder, and your lawyer says you're innocent of murder, jurors want to find a middle ground. If it's on the table, they'll decide, "guilty of manslaughter," even if it makes no sense. This, of course, is not a compromise, but the destruction of a client's life.

And then, of course, contrary to popular belief, the system is VERY prosecution oriented. We don't spend public funds on universal health care, but we sure spend a hell of a lot of money on prosecutions. Unless you're O.J., you're not going to have a team of lawyers fighting with the vigor your case deserves. Unless, of course, you hire me and my colleagues, but I digress. :)

When plea deals are on the table, I'm obliged to explain all the risks entailed with going to trial. It's not a part of the job I relish.

People often ask what it's like to defend a guilty person. Ehh, it's easy to defend the guilty. You do your job as best you can. If you win, the prosecution didn't prove its case, and there's nothing mesmerizing or magical about pointing out the lack of proof to a jury. If you lose, you don't have to lose any sleep.

Defending the innocent, on the other hand . . . that's where the stress, inner conflicts and nightmares really kick in.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

ron's picture

but when I bring up traffic cases, it's because that is where the courts create the most revenue. Please, if you can, tell us where that revenue goes.

Karen's picture

It's a good question. It's politics, though, not law. Each state or municipality will decide where the revenue goes.

But you're right about its raising a ton of money. It's pretty sick, in my opinion.

Keep in mind as well that traffic courts aren't actually criminal courts. Their sort of sub-criminal courts. They call 'em "traffic infractions" because an infraction is a lesser offense than a crime.

Meaning when you're charged with an infraction, you do not have the right to an attorney, you do not have the right to a jury trial, and often, the state meets its prima facie burden of proof simply by producing a properly completed traffic ticket. Then it's up to you to prove your innocence. Good luck.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

ron's picture

since I've had to deal with it but I am very familiar with the proceedings.

MountainMan23's picture

For most of the 90s I was a volunteer advocate for the homeless, community organizer, and know how exhausting it can be.

And it is endless. That sea of troubles will still be there, long after you and I are so much dust.

The satisfaction comes from the small triumphs and the knowledge that things would have been a whole lot worse if you hadn't made your effort.

I live alone in a forest now, with two dogs who just showed up and adopted me.

Much easier than dealing with people and all their problems!


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Karen's picture

Indeed, it's the small victories that matter. And some of mine aren't so small. Certainly not for innocent people facing prison who are delighted to find that a jury actually saw it their way.

And aren't doggies wonderful?! I recently had to put my dog down. I was so sad, but he had a good, long life, and he gave me a lot of love.

My partner and I are going to adopt a puppy soon. Nothin' like animal companions to brighten life up. :)


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Keep fighting the good fight. One thing I noticed that you didn't mention is no matter what the evidence is it doesn't matter if a judge doesn't allow it (personal experience). So, no matter how innocent someone is, if a court is out for a conviction or acquittal (as the case may be), it'll get one.

And about leaving the country, my mother is French and arrived in the U.S. as a refugee with her family during WWII. Not that I'm saying we're going there, it's just that there's nothing wrong with moving somewhere more humane.

Alot of us are thinking about it.

ron's picture

who will be left to fight the fight?

Rich H's picture

But if the deck is stacked do you still insist on playing against the house?

ron's picture

that if you leave that your children and grandchildren will even have a chance? We have to stick around to help them to think independently.

Sometimes I'm too negative even for myself.

You've made a good point, but just like moving from one area in the US to another for greater opportunities etc... If one is able, they can do the same with another country, and like I said, there's a number that are more humane.

jakflorida32169's picture

...on the subject of people leaving this country because of what they see as a hopeless political climate. It's something I read too often on this site. Leave? O.K. Just remember though: You're letting the bastards win. And maybe I won't live to see this country attain the true potential that it can, where "freedom and justice for all" is not just a slogan, but I'll be damned if I let the bastards win.


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

Rich H's picture

yourself and your family count as letting the "bastards" win?

Did the young men who went to Canada so they wouldn't have to fight an unjust war let the bastards win?

If that's not a good example, then please break it down on when it's o.k. to leave and when it isn't.

Karen's picture

As I said in an earlier post, it's not that I want to leave. It's not that I'm giving up. My "escape plan" is literally about self defense.

I know it risks an invocation of Godwin's Law, but it's the only way I can think right now to make the comparison. Before I say this, though, I only ask that no one hyperextend my analogy. I'm not saying that Nazis are in charge right now.

Okay, disclaimers done. Here's the question: Would you say to a Jewish person living in Germany on the brink of Hitler's rise, "If you leave, you are letting the bastards win."? Really? I mean, it's true in a sense, but it's also a realistic response to a very real threat.

I'm not hopping on a boat for a better climate where I can live happily ever after. I would feel like a refugee, and I hope it never comes to that.

But there's writing on the wall, and I don't want to deny it. No, I don't see any plans in the works to round people up en masse right now, but I see an overzealous group of religious lunatics and hate mongers with a tremendous influence on politics, and behind-the-scenes corporate rulers who are more than happy to exploit that demographic, and cater to its wishes to integrate church and state, to reinstate sodomy laws, to take all mention of civil rights and evolution out of our textbooks, etc.

Also as I said, Know Knothing Knation has made itself perfectly clear: If it does "come for" someone, it's going to be ME. I'm atheist. I'm left wing. I'm bisexual, and in a committed lesbian relationship. I do not just feel the typical political fight against "the bastards." I feel like this country HATES ME.

It's a feeling with which my family, especially the German Jewish side, knows all too well. And while genocide might not be in the works, oppressive, detrimental, second-class citizenship very well could be. Along the lines of what African Americans have endured for far, far, far too long in this country, and don't think "the bastards" don't want to roll back the clock to the Jim Crow era, because they're pretty clear about that too.

We live in a country that is fast becoming a third world nation. Our technology SUCKS compared to the rest of the developed world (unless it's weaponry). Our infrastructure is crumbling. Our elections at the highest levels are rigged. Multinational corporations have more say in Congress than any constituency, and they have just been deemed to have the full free speech rights as human beings. We let thousands of people die for lack of health care in order to protect the profit margins of the already obscenely wealthy, all in the name of "capitalism," when the term doesn't even apply to our system.

And most Americans, even the progressive ones, still believe that quality of life and democracy are the best here than anywhere else in the world. They are wrong. It is not.

So, please understand. I am not just up and quitting because the fight has gone out of me. Hell, I'm ready to fight to the death if need be, and I mean that literally. (It's also, by the way, why I veer away from my progressive brethren on gun control.)

But I'm also going to be ready to leave if I really feel I HAVE TO.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

Edwin's picture

Screw Godwin's law. It's stupid.

As America moves toward a police state, or toward fascism, or a corporate state, I think the Nazi analogy is perfect. It's exactly what they did, and the USA is doing it now: sweeping police powers, scapegoating minorities, religious zealotry, rule by corporations, what isn't like Nazi Germany???? Even torture camps. Geez, don't be hoodwinked by (some kind of) love.

PS Staying sounds to me like staying in an abusive relationship. He/she beats me, but...

PPS I know it's home. I get it, but sometimes home isn't good.

signed: an expat non-American fighting for your country (and mine).


far left loon >.<

Rich H's picture

Edwin, I seem to recall your in Korea with a patch of grass on the roof - I'm jealous.

My wife and I are working on establishing an organic farm producing vegetarian food in China. I know it sounds crazy, but it might work, and I hope it does.

And Karen I sympathize, as I said, my mothers family were refugees so I have a (slight) idea of what they went through. I think your observations are accurate. Though keep in mind we don't all hate you. It must be tough feeling that way, and I might add, your reasons for feeling that way are legitimate.

What I don't understand are people willing to fight to the death for this country. I've got news for them, we are all part of the human race - at least that's where I belong, and while the rest of the world is progressing, the U.S, is just regressing in a major way.

Good luck to us all.

Edwin's picture

There are all kinds of opportunities in Asia. It's like N. America was in back the 50s/60s; growing like crazy. Go for it.

Some of my friends have opened foreign restauransts in Seoul and they are doing well. One now has about 8 high-end restaurants. He's doing very VERY well. It's chic to go out to "foreign" restaurants (even mediocre ones, in my estimation.)

Vegetarian, organic and slow food are big trends here, so if you do your research... People are eager to try new foods and like to follow trends (be chic).

Best of luck!!!

PS there was no malice in my comment, just the facts.


far left loon >.<

Rich H's picture

We've already received the go ahead from the Provinces Govenor (they'll donate the land), and we have an investor and another who already has a processing facility - so all we have to do is get everyone on the same page - no easy task - and it's a go.

MountainMan23's picture

The Growing Movement for Publicly Owned Banks

We the people have given away our sovereign money-creating power to private, for-profit lending institutions, which have used it to siphon wealth from the productive economy. Some states are moving to take that power back. ..

The Bank of North Dakota, currently the nation's only state-owned bank, is the model (with variations) for all the other proposals on the table. The Bank of North Dakota acts as a "bankers' bank," partnering with other banks in "participation loans," which allow them to compete with larger banks. In a participation loan, the community bank originates the loan and takes responsibility for it, while the participating bank contributes funds and shares in the risk and profits. The Bank of North Dakota also makes low-interest loans to students, farmers and businesses; underwrites municipal bonds; and provides liquidity for more than 100 banks around the state. ..

Solid idea ..


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Truth_Critic's picture

Federal Reserve Must Disclose Bank Bailout Records

"March 19 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve Board must disclose documents identifying financial firms that might have collapsed without the largest U.S. government bailout ever, a federal appeals court said. "


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Karen's picture

We'll see. I'll bet the lawyers will seek an en banc hearing so they can get the entire panel of conservatives to decide in the banks' favor. If that fails, they'll petition the Roberts Court for cert, and who knows what they'll decide after that.

Hell, the way Roberts twisted the Citizens United case is worthy of impeachment. Let's see what he can do with this.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

ron's picture

for me to encourage everyone to never vote for a conservative again. The supreme court is the biggest risk to our country with conservatives in the majority.

college professors about packing the Court. Watched it happen, feeling helpless. I think I was dumbfounded.

jakflorida32169's picture

Yea, brother, on that.

They could put up a candidate that was nailed to a cross on Friday and popped out of a tomb on Sunday and I STILL wouldn't vote for him.


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

savannah43's picture

impropriety." But I guess that was settled by Scalia and his fishing trip, huh? It's getting to be like a big joke. Except it's real.

Truth_Critic's picture

"The court said that the information sought by Bloomberg was not “obtained from” the borrowing banks. It rejected an alternative argument the individual Federal Reserve Banks are “persons,” for purposes of the law because they would not suffer the kind of harm required under the “privileged and confidential” requirement of the exemption."

Bloomberg staff said the fed might ask for a full court hearing? We'll have to see?

Amended: The court said if the FED does not like it, they'll have to ask Congress to change the law. That's the same line the Fed. players always use during the hearings... well Congress gave us that right in the Federal Reserve act... Ben Bernanke uses it a lot. ;)


Study the symptoms not the virus...

that really blew my mind:

Total profits earned by the (PRIVATE!!) U.S. Federal Reserve Bank last year: $46,100,000,000

As Larry David would say, "That's pretty.....pretty.....pretty......good."

Here's another doozie: Estimated amount that all U.S. banks charged their customers last year in overdraft fees:

$38,900,000,000.

And finally, the number of U.S. banks receiving federal bailout funds that have missed at least one interest payment to the government; 63.


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

"The Misinformed Tea Party Movement

"On March 16 the Tea Party crowd showed up for yet another demonstration on Capitol Hill in Washington. Curious about the factual knowledge these people have regarding the issues they are protesting, my friend David Frum enlisted some interns to interview as many Tea Partyers as possible on a couple of basic questions.

They got 57 responses--a pretty good-sized sample from a crowd that numbered between 300 and 500 people."


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Karen's picture

I think a lot of conservatives, even despicable neo-conservatives like Frum, are quite wary of the Tea Party Movement.

It's one thing to pander to the lowest common denominator to win an election. It's another thing entirely to encourage an angry mob to get angrier.

Not everyone on the proverbial other side of the aisle is too dumb to see what they've unleashed. They want tools, useful idiots, not an emboldened citizenry.


Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?

VegasRage's picture

If anyone here follows Armstrong economics, for those who don't you can learn about Martin Armstrong here.

On the 03/09/10 Martin posted a letter in which he stated:

"Greece, Spain, and Italy and Ireland are trapped. their interest rate will rise and cause only an outflow of national wealth. They have no way to address the problem that is accumlative. I have burned my brain raw trying to come up with a solution. but there is only one. A complete restructure that is a debt for equity swap. Debts will never be paid and the interest expenditures are the greatest transfer of wealth in history. This is causing rising taxes in all areas from Europe to the US suppressing economic activity fueling higher unemployment and civil unrest."

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"When debt concerns then turn to the US, the dollar will get hit only then."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28513873/Armstrong-...

Regardless if you agree with all Armstrong's points the above is interesting because of today's news of India raising interest rates and Greece's sovereign debt crisis intensified, markets dropped on the news.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274...


Goodnight, Frau Blücher

GambitLB's picture
fyi

sure, the Beck/Palin clip is a funny piece that was edited together from their interview, but to be quite honest i don't think i've ever seen either one of them make more sense or be so honest as they did here.

VegasRage's picture

They at least for that montage seemed more real than they do in reality. Funny their real dialogs are so out of touch that a mockery comes across as being more genuine.


Goodnight, Frau Blücher

Kreskin's picture

For me the biggest shock of all , since the " election " of Bush and all that has gone down since then , was the realization that about half the people of my country are stupid beyond belief , ignorant ... and sick . Given this fact I do not have much hope for this country , if it were feasible I would gladly leave this insane asylum for good .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

Tequila's picture

We come in peace. Obama's mortgage program doesn' give credit where it's due. Condy admittedly thinks Bush could have done a better job on post-war Iraq, but claims he'll be remembered better in the future. Brazil, veteran-style. So Ahnie blows money on GPS equipment for sex offenders, even though one of the reps from the Dept. of Corrections admits it does not actually make Cali safer. Ellen Degeneres gives the lesbian student who couldn't go to prom a college donation. A judge thinks NY is low-balling the 9/11 rescue workers. Thirty-seven new banks shut down. Looks like insurers can charge whatever fees they want now. Oh, and was that about immigration reform, Barry? Gee, ya think?

curtilingus's picture

Here's my effort at a Glenn Beck mash up. It 's much shorter (46 seconds) but has more words.

Teacher Joshua's picture

There is so much win in this clip it hurts. Haven't laughed so hard in awhile. Well Done and Cheers.

open thread huh??
so I saw in the news this week that Hawaii is considering a law to ignore requests for President Obama's birth certificate. you see, governments have to respond to questions & queries from the public. but. they're costing so much time, money and resources that the government wants to either send out a default message to every request, and/or ignore them altogether.

WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA actually born in Kenya and then his mom drove him up 3 days later and registered him as born in Hawaii so she could make him become president and they faked the hospital record and the birth certificate isn't filed right. or .. something.

so look. I heard ANOTHER stupid conspiracy theory. that Sarah Palin didn't look very pregnant and got on a plane looking animated and happy and pleasantly rode a plane ride with little pomp or circumstance or urgency, got off and had a retarded baby. oh and also that her baby-making-age teenage daughter had mono and was home from school for like 7 months. and then Sarah Palin had a baby somewhere without a big like show or announcement even though she was governor and a showy retired beauty queen because she didn't feel like it. and that that's totally what happened

no thats not what I heard at all I heard that Trig was actually Bristol's baby.

WELL HAS ANYBODY SEEN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE??!! hehe..
no, but seriously.
have any hospital workers or midwives stepped up and said "yea I delivered that baby" or have even any ob/gyn workers stepped up and said "yea I saw a baby in that woman's uterus" .. well, have they?

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its still a stupid question. just like question's surrounding President Obama's birthplace.

and the demand for proof, intrudes on privacy a million times worse than the Patriot Act and the census combined. heh..

no, seriously, birth certificates are the fundamental foundation of making your life. I used to work in the birth certificate office. I totally get it. you need a birth certificate to get a drivers license, a checking account, a job, a home. I mean, basically.

there is, literally, no longform public copy of the original birth certificate. I mean, it just doesn't exist.

but reasoning with these people just doesn't work. so maybe we need to make them see reason.

I think I'm going to start asking the State of Alaska's Vital Statistics Division for the longform public copy of the original birth certificate of Trig Palin.

maybe if the right wing's darling Sarah Palin explains that the question both stupid and offensive and that we have no right and no business requesting her baby's birth certificate ... maybe that'll finally put the business to bed.

anybody feel like asking Alaska for Trig Palin's birth certificate?
I'm gonna start doing it. I figure even if its ineffective it'll still be funny.

seen beck do!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness! They have killed the economy and ruined the lives of millions of people.
God damn the GOP!

gogetem's picture

"I just love my country....*sniff*...and I'm afraid for it"....because....."President Obama has a deep seated hatred for white people"

ACKman's picture

This video was produced with the same high class journalism techniques as were employed by James O'Queef/Hanna Giles/Andrew Brietbart in their ACORN 'pimp/prostitute' video. So why doesn't this get the same play in the 'liberal' media?

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