November 21, 2009 10:00 AM
US Senate Saturday Session Open Thread
Cartoon from Walt Handelsman at Newsday (reg. required for some pages).
No one can predict how today will go, there is some hope that since the Senate likes to appear to be the royalty of the Congress, we might avoid some of the circus antics that Saturday in the House brought. It's unlikely anyone will use procedural objections over and over to silence Barbara Boxer or Olympia Snowe.
It's an open thread for what you're seeing in, and thinking about, today's procedures.
Seems like both sides have already decided. Now both are just using the issue to get headlines and face time on TV.
As if the GOP will send one yes vote no matter how many amendments or how much discussion.
The GOP doesn't even care if their position is good politics or not - they will just say no. Somehow the M$M will make that the headline.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
about those that attack the democrats because they have to cave in to a few amendments that a small percentage of blue dogs want when it is 100% of the regressive republicans that are responsible for blocking everything the majority tries to pass. The regressives want everything this administration wants to accomplish, to fail.
"those that attack the democrats"
Don't kid yourself they'd attack no matter what. It is a GOP dream to have D's attacking D's for the idiocy of the R's.
(too many fall for that crud)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Woody Allen
Seriously though, if they pass the thing, what do we have?
An enormous piece of crap…
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
It'll be a victory for Democrats. And an outstanding example of their stead-fast leadership and visionary vision.
It's not about health care reform.
No one on the progressive side wants to admit it but there is now an open war going on against President Obama and the Democratic party.
Is there an opening act?
Someone know where the popcorn, candy, and pop concession stand is? How bout hats and t-shirts.
are arguing for the Stupak amendment when they fail to mention that only one republican in the house voted for the House bill after they added it. What a bunch of hypocrites. Can't the regressive base see through their hypocracy?
http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
It'd the party of "Nope" vs. the party of "I surrender".
The Know Nothings vs. the Do Nothings
The Sociopathic Party vs. the Tenuous and Futile Coalition of Myriad Non-Sociopaths
There is simply no reason to try to appease the Republicans and get them on board. It's like masturbating a gelding. Nothing good can result, and the only pleasure they'll derive is from watching you get frustrated.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
So both Lincoln and Landrieu will vote yes to begin debate.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Here's the republican theme song for this whole year.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0
I am seeing the blogs continue to cover this story as a "win vs. lose" dynamic. That couldn't be further from the truth. The bill(s) amounts to an unconscionable giveaway to the insurance industry at the expense of any hope of future legislation for true universal health care.
The blogsphere should be ashamed. The DEMOCRATS should be tarred and feathered. We are being betrayed by our own party, and it's a terrible, goddamn shame.
Most of us here don't seem to have much faith in the Democratic Party.
My own party is the Socialists.
Tar and feathers is too good.
Drown 'em in a barrel of boogers. Metaphorically speaking, of course.
Drown 'em in a barrel of boogers. Metaphorically speaking, of course.
.....but I just LOVE the imagery!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
crunchy frog heap good....!
there's a real live frog in there?
The difference between being a member of the House and being a Senator was like chicken shit and chicken salad!
I tend to think that the Senate is more like the House now.
Another famous Texas saying about politics:
"The vice presidency is not worth a bucket of warm piss."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
HuffPo was headlining this briefly last night. Ron Wyden's favorite issue in health care has long been patient choice, and it seems he has finally gotten something into the bill.
It's not clear from The Hill article whether this amendment could result in a public option available to all or if it is yet another compromise. If it's not another sell-out, this could seriously change things.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Today:
- The Senate is preparing to debate whether or not to have a debate about HealthCare/Health Insurance Reform.
- Elsewhere in the country, another 120 people will DIE today due to lack of health insurance.
to regressives talking about problems but not offering solutions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68GeL8PafE
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Too bad health care reform won't cover this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
For hit and run dwi. She hit a parked car and bailed.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
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