Whom would Jesus call a goat-f***ing child molester?
I am tired of talking about the Arizona shooting.
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Through it all though, well meaning people on both sides of the ideological and partisan divide are not talking about the one thing that should be talked about — a saving faith in Jesus Christ.
I am no saint. And I am no preacher. This is not intended to be a sermon. But it needs to be said and is not being said. Thankfully God is the God of the imperfect and all of us are.
In all the discussions we’re having, let’s not forget that bad things have happened throughout history, but we are seeing more and more a pattern of violence from those who reject Christ and we are seeing the most extreme rhetoric from those who reject the only real truth while embracing every other historic fad and nonsense as variations of truth.
There are times when I cannot tell if Erickson is a genuine conservative or an extremely elaborate performance artist who has infiltrated the conservative movement in order to undermine its intellectual credibility. This is certainly one of those times.
So Erick, the people who have rejected Jesus are the ones engaging in "the most extreme rhetoric?" Does that include these folks?
Fred W. Phelps, leader of the anti-gay Westboro Baptist Church that regularly pickets the funerals of troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, is praising the killings in Tucson and says his group will picket the funerals.
A federal appeals court last year ruled that picketing by the church congregation at funerals is free speech protected by the Constitution. The issue is now before the Supreme Court.
Phelps, in a video on his group's web site, thanks God for the "marvelous work in Tucson," which he says is part of God's vengeance on America. He says his church prays for "more shooters ... more dead."
The Kansas-based group is made up largely of Phelps' family and has been denounced as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Or this guy?
Like the prophets of old, Terry Jones has a message -- and it's fiery.
The controversial Florida preacher, who first lit a spark on Facebook when he called for people around the world to set fire to copies of the Koran, is now at the center of an international conflagration.
Jones' plan to set ablaze thousands of copies of the Muslim holy book on Sept. 11, a day he's dubbed International Burn a Koran Day, has become a flashpoint. What has been seen for weeks as a strange front in the culture wars, this weekend became a front in America's real war, with Gen. David Patraeus weighing in to say he believed the display would be detrimental and dangerous to U.S. troops fighting in Afghanistan.
Or heck, how about this guy?
At what point do the people tell the politicians to go to hell? At what point do they get off the couch, march down to their state legislator’s house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp for being an idiot?
You can feel Jesus' love flowing through all of this wonderful Christian rhetoric, can't you?
(My point here isn't to say that Christians are prone to violent rhetoric, by the way. My point is more that Erickson is comically and embarrassingly full of s***. Which should surprise, like, nobody.)
OK, back to Erick:
The topic of faith in Christ makes people cringe. But whether you believe it or not, here is the reality: beyond us is a world we cannot see with our eyes. It impacts us on a daily basis. It is a world of very real angels and very real demons. It is a world of a very real God and a very real Satan, a very real Heaven and a very real Hell.
I sort of doubt this invisible world impacts us every day. Because if it did, God would have certainly come down from the sky by now and told Erickson to shut the hell up and to stop speaking on His behalf. In fact, there are lots of people of many different faiths He probably would have done that to if He actually did want to get involved in our daily lives. As for myself, I think God only intervenes when He decides whether or not to let NFL players catch touchdown passes. Other than that, we're on our own.
So, to recap: Erick Erickson. He's a not-very-smart religious lunatic who has a history of justifying violence against elected officials. And he's a star on a non-Fox cable news network. Our country is sorta screwed, in case you haven't noticed.
Whose goat child would Jesus fuck?
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
was/is a person who claimed Christ.
He started two wars, at least one based on lies, that have killed hundreds of thousands; was good ole Eric referring to him?
Harry Chapin wants you.
as he carries the torture baton for George W.
Go figure.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
christians aren't perfect, just saved.
Indeed --- kind of like something I once read from the late Keith Green, someone with whom I'd seriously disagree with about faith matters, but honor for the the way he lived his life:
"I'm sorry, ma'am, you cannot trust your daughter around my teenaged son, you see, he's not perfect, he's just saved."
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
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Shorter Erick son of Erick: Giffords was shot by a man without "a saving faith in Jesus Christ" because she did not have " a saving faith in Jesus Christ."
He gets creepier every day.
Let's not forget Bill Donohue and John Hagee, 2 other leading lights of the right wing Christain movement.
religion is a scam
PT Barnum got the idea... Plenty more hucksters and suckers since then...
Erickson's argument is air-tight and circular - people who accept Christ aren't violent, therefore anybody who is violent hasn't accept Christ. Religious claims aren't testable. That's what makes them so dangerous.
His father discovered Greenland. Give the guy a break.
Wait, who are we talking about?
Erik the Red "discovered it", much to the surprise of the locals... :)
But I get the joke...
Perhaps Erik is just Leif's younger, and less successful brother. Angry for not receiving any recognition in Viking times, he stumbled ass backwards into our time, and is inflicting his insanity on us.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
and the lies it rode in on
Cue the Kabuki....
...and he knows that the more absurd the comment, the more likely he is to get attention. The Internet has unleashed an amazing array of attention whores and lowered the standard for what it takes to get attention considerably. Twitter has lowered the bar even further.
Ask yourself, how could an imbecile like Erick son of Erick have gotten attention if this were the fifties or sixties. After he got through acting out in school every day, what means would have been available to him to achieve a national audience? To actually get people across the country to be aware, not only of his existence, but of what a lunatic he is he would have had to perform some heinous public act of violence or deviance. Now, he just says outrageously offensive and stupid things about Democrats and cable news is there to put him on the air.
when Erikson said "..those who reject the real truth while embracing [bullshit as truth]...", the first name that popped into my head was Erik Erikson.
Maybe you should have a link to his statement about Souter. It would give what you said here more impact. Oh, and "who," not "whom."
Brad, those examples you listed don't count as, while they profess to be Christians, they are not part of the Correct Sect of the One True Faith(tm).
As Jesus said in the bible, (somewhere towards the back): Death to the infidels!
hearing about christian fucking "values". There are few true christians in this world, most just wanna fuck you and hide behind their bible when brought to account.
Having spend much of my young adulthood in Binghamton NY, how could one forget that jeezus-loving Randall Terry?
"crusade" in the middle east?
where's the change?
Yeah, yeah, the tired old canard about how believing in the right fairy tale makes you moral. Seriously, if we really want genuine morality, we're going to have to shed our craving for easy explanations and our quick embrace of the preposterous and irrational.
Faith has a way of separating the brain's moral sense from well being and suffering. It redirects the brain's moral sense to the trivial concerns of those preaching the faith (e.g. insecurities about sexuality, styles of dress, pathologically obsessive concerns about perceived disorder). As such, it is an excellent means of mass control.
We need not embrace anything on insufficient evidence to be truly moral. We need only to recognize that the moral sense is irretrievably tethered to our understanding of well being and suffering, and not let religious preachers lead us astray.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
That was just a 'performance artist' line...
Are Erick and The Swag-Hag the same person?? Do they just share a reasonably good mask collection that is used by which ever one is going to be on the CouCoo camera at any given time???
HOW do these people slip thru the cracks that allows them to profess to be anything other than public hacks or vagrants who should be locked up and held for psycho-eval?????
Astounding....
This is one of many reasons why I don't believe in God! The awful things that happen to people seem to inspite of the alledged existence of God. And I can't really stomach religious people. Many are irrational and never fail to hold up their pious bullshit without one shred of proof that there is a God. I get that it's a leap of faith. I'm just not willing to make it. They also pit their God against whoever yours might be. This guy is a real piece of shit. I often ask my friends and family who do believe to explain to me if there is a God, then why do these kinds of things keep happening? Why is a 9 year old innocent child gone while this bloated doughboy is still here spewing his brand of bile? Know what I get? Crickets!
Erick Erickson is one of the biggest reasons I don't watch CNN hardly at all anymore. When CNN gave this idiot a soapbox to spew his retarded nonsense I just could hardly take it anymore (I tried sometimes but when Eliot Spitzer put on Ralph Reed two times it was the last straw.). It says so much about CNN to let this cracker on it's air. John King is the asshole who gave him a spot on his show as if Erick Erickson is a go to guy. John King has no credibility, CNN has no credibility, and Erick Erickson is retarded.
These people are more heinous than they are "retarded," mental retardation being a genetic defect that the person who has it is not responsible for.
I'd just as soon hear the N word used seriously as "retarded." Both suck. Thanks.
Nucleotide?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I think it may be a good idea for C+L to highlight Erick Erickson and is idiotic nonsense more often. Bring this joker front and center. Show the world what a dumbass he is. Show the world what a huge mistake he is/was. Maybe CNN will phase him out. Maybe the hand of god will reach down and pluck him from off the face of the earth never to be seen or heard from again.
Why have the R-W media machine ignored the most obvious comparison:
Knoxville Unitarian Universalist terrorist attach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitar...
'Talk to the hand'
Taking the lords name in vane:
Speaking on behalf of God to support your own viewpoints.
How many Christians do that?
The answer to your question is none.
However, there are many authoritarians who use religion to promote their own views and make money at it too.
I've been wondering how long it was going to take before some pinhead blamed this on atheism or godlessness. Wow, three whole days? What a fucking tool. Accepting the imaginary jesus as your personal savior will not prevent this kind of horrific tragedy from occuring. Plenty of religious nuts have committed these types of atrocities in the past.
I blame virtually all of the senseless acts of paranoid and politically motivated violence we have witnessed over the last 2 and a half years on religion anyway. Politics yes, but politics informed by religious faith. There are so many variations of and spin-offs of all the big dominating religions in the world that is absolutely insane for any one of them to consider theirs to be the One True Religion (tm). Unfortunately, the world is full of deluded, credulous cowards who will believe just about anything their religion tells them just so they won't be afraid of death anymore. Or the dark. Pussies!
So there, Erick son of Erick, you lying attention-whore moron.
(Sorry if you're a religious person, I don't mean to insult you personally. I just think people need to question everything and stop acquiescing to social pressures to conform, like joining a church and trying to "save" people or force their antiquated religious bullshit on governments. *sigh* I know that's never going to happen. People feel comfortable and safe in their religious world of delusion and lies. They've got their "Get Out of Jail Free" card when they die. Oops, I meant they're "saved".)
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
Eric is just saying that we all need to turn to the love of Jesus Christ. That's not in any way a tasteless thing to say when a Jewish congresswoman gets shot. [/sarcasm]
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful"
-- Seneca the Younger
Religion will be the downfall of Humanity.
The guy nailin' him up?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"The topic of faith in Christ makes people cringe. But whether you believe it or not, here is the reality: beyond us is a world we cannot see with our eyes. It impacts us on a daily basis. It is a world of very real angels and very real demons. It is a world of a very real God and a very real Satan, a very real Heaven and a very real Hell."
Psst: Don't go spreading this around too much, but frankly, just between you and me --
IT IS A WORLD!!!
What sheer stupidity!
You can understand their anti-war protests and picketing funerals, makes sort of sense in a morality anti hypocritical way, even tho its very very cruel for the family members.
Their anti-gay stance makes sense to xtreme fundie xtains.
BUT praising six murders including a nine year old kid... not to mention the others wounded and some maimed for life.
Phelps is either or senile or a total hate person.
I am surprised Phelps does not have a slot on Pox alongside either Hannity or Beck.
dammit.
dolphinkazoo.com - smart. shrill.
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