An "Assault On Democracy"
By Steve Hynd Monday Oct 20, 2008 4:30amKeith Olbermann comments on GOP attempts to suppress votes by attacking ACORN
In 2008, faced with a groundswell of public opinion that should deliver a landslide of disapproval for the Republican party and send it into the political wilderness for years, the poor losers of the GOP are more than ready to prevent that end by any means. Few, if any, of the tactics it is using are illegal - often the result of careful legislation designed to preserve the Republican majority forever - but added together they comprise an assault on democracy which would stun even the cynical and sly politicians of Old Europe.
In state after state, Republican operatives — the party's elite commandos of bare-knuckle politics — are wielding new federal legislation to systematically disenfranchise Democrats. If this year's race is as close as the past two elections, the GOP's nationwide campaign could be large enough to determine the presidency in November. "I don't think the Democrats get it," says John Boyd, a voting-rights attorney in Albuquerque who has taken on the Republican Party for impeding access to the ballot. "All these new rules and games are turning voting into an obstacle course that could flip the vote to the GOP in half a dozen states."
The GOP and the McCain campaign have been trying to drum up a Bradley Effect, with campaign and party apparatchiks trotting out racist whistles against Obama (and by extension against the party he now leads) at every opportunity while party leaders pretend to be oblivious and unknowing. McCain, Palin and the GOP's Congressional leaders would condemn any overt racism, of course, and attribute it to some bad apples - but they seem remarkably dense in not spotting anything other than utter hate speech racism from their followers (or the candidate himself) when it occurs. The merest veil of deniability conceals their deliberately looking the other way while their supporters run riot.
Nor have their smears stopped at racism. Calling Obama and Dems in general traitors, terrorist abettors, "feminazis" and (oh, horrors) socialists has become a substitute for debating issues. (Actually, Obama's just echoing Lincoln.) From an early stage, the GOP knew it was going to run on personality smears as a substitute for facts. Again, much of the groundswell of hate on the Right is implausibly deniable by the leadership, but since any media attention only fuels their base's paranoia and engenders new smear attacks, "implausible" is all they need to keep the ball rolling independently.
But even all that isn't sufficient to either cage the vote or at least to provide plenty of excuses to keep Republican leaders in charge of their party after the elections. So we now have the ACORN faux-scandal, which John McCain has hyperbolically called 'an assault on democracy" and which seeks to provide a ready-made narrative for de-legitimizing the election.
It also serves, through the time-honored tactic of calling your opponents out for what you yourself are doing, to conceal very real Republcan voter registration fraud - not just individuals cooking up daft names to register as a way of getting paid for no work but a concerted effort to cook the books by making Republican support seem stronger than it really is.
Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.
I am not a Republican," insisted Karen Ashcraft, 47, a pet-clinic manager and former Democrat from Ventura who said she was duped by a signature gatherer into joining the GOP. "I certainly . . . won't sign anything in front of a grocery store ever again."
It is a bait-and-switch scheme familiar to election experts. The firm hired by the California Republican Party -- a small company called Young Political Majors, or YPM, which operates in several states -- has been accused of using the tactic across the country.
... The 70,000 voters YPM has registered for the Republican Party this year will help combat the public perception that it is struggling amid Democratic gains nationally, give a boost to fundraising efforts and bolster member support for party leaders, political strategists from both parties say.
Those who were formerly Democrats may stop receiving phone calls and literature from that party, perhaps affecting its get-out-the-vote efforts. They also will be given only a Republican ballot in the next primary election if they do not switch their registration back before then.
Some also report having their registration status changed to absentee without their permission; if they show up at the polls without a ballot they may be unable to vote.
The guy behind that particular bit of skullduggery, Mark Anthony Jacoby, who owns the firm known as Young Political Majors, was arrested Saturday for vote fraud in 2006 and 2007.
And, of course, we still have that mysterious glitch in electronic voting machines - the one that only ever seems to work in favor of Republican candidates - in places like West Virginia.
Virginia Matheney and Calvin Thomas said touch-screen machines in the county clerk's office in Ripley kept switching their votes from Democratic to Republican candidates.
"When I touched the screen for Barack Obama, the check mark moved from his box to the box indicating a vote for John McCain," said Matheney, who lives in Kenna.
When she reported the problem, she said, the poll worker in charge "responded that everything was all right. It was just that the screen was sensitive and I was touching the screen too hard. She instructed me to use only my fingernail."
Even after she began using her fingernail, Matheney said, the problem persisted.
When she tried to vote for candidates running for two open seats on the Supreme Court, the electronic machine canceled her second vote twice.
On her third try, Matheney managed to cast votes for both Menis Ketchum and Margaret Workman, Democratic candidates for the two open seats.
Calvin Thomas, 81, who retired from Kaiser Aluminum in Ravenswood in 1983 and now lives in Ripley, experienced the same problem.
"When I pushed Obama, it jumped to McCain. When I went down to governor's office and punched [Gov. Joe] Manchin, it went to the other dude. When I went to Karen Facemyer [the incumbent Republican state senator], I pushed the Democrat, but it jumped again.
"The rest of them were OK, but the machine sent my votes for those top three offices from the Democrat to the Republican," Thomas said.
Thomas, who brought his daughter with him to the polls, said she had the same problem.
"After I finished, my daughter voted. When she pushed Obama, it went to McCain.
It has often been said that, to prevent such "glitches" having an effect, Obama has to not just win but win handily. That's inconvenient to network bosses who are already wondering how they'll fill election evening coverage if it's all decided by teatime. John McCain has assured Chris Wallace today that there will be a full election night to cover and some polls seem to help his case for that (and, obviously, influence voter's perceptions) - even while others don't.
But at the end of the day the GOP is prepared even for a Democratic landslide. They'll just package up all the hate, all the smears, all the Alien Nation rhetoric and throw caution to the wind. Back to Bilmon (h/t Ron):
We don't need to hark back to the unfortunate history of a certain Central European country in the 1930s to understand how poisonous this kind of political myth making can become. Powerful elements of the Republican Party and the conservative "movement" aren't just preparing themselves to go into opposition, they're preparing themselves to dispute the legitimacy of an Obama presidency -- in ways that could, if taken to extreme, lead to another Oklahoma City.
It's hard to tell to what degree the GOP high command fully understands or is trying to feed these dynamics (indeed, it's becoming increasingly difficult to even tell who the GOP high command is these days). The last thing I want to do is get into an arms race with the wingnut right when it comes to paranoid conspiracy theories. (That's one race the left will always lose). Still, the recent statements of John McCain and his Bircher-influenced running mate aren't exactly reassuring:
My opponent's answer showed that economic recovery isn't even his top priority. His goal, as Senator Obama put it, is to "spread the wealth around."
You see, he believes in redistributing wealth, not in policies that help us all make more of it. Joe, in his plainspoken way, said this sounded a lot like socialism.
I've been following politics for going on 35 years now, and I don't think I've ever heard a Republican candidate publicly refer to his Democratic opponent as a "socialist" -- not even while hiding behind a cardboard cutout like "Joe the Plumber". This from a man who told the entire nation on Wednesday night that believes an obscure nonprofit group is "perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy."
Likewise, I don't think there's ever been an American vice presidential candidate who explicitly referred to entire regions of the United States as "pro-American" -- with the clear implication that other regions are something less than "pro-American." Not since the Civil War, anyway.
We've crossed some more lines, in other words -- in a long series of lines that have made it increasingly difficult to distinguish between the ultraconservative wing of the Republican Party and an explicitly fascist political movement. And John McCain and his political handlers appear to have no moral compunctions whatsoever about whipping this movement into a frenzy and providing it with scapegoats for all that hatred, simply to try to shave a few points off Barack Obama's lead in the polls.
To call this "country first" only works if you assume your opponents (and scapegoats) are not really part of that same country. And we all know where that leads.
Yes, we do. And the extreme Right has been happily contemplating violent resistance or even a coup to defend themselves from what they see as a hostile and un-American Democratic takeover for years now. They even write books about it.
Originally posted in a different form at Newshoggers
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Does it really matter? Diebold, folks. Diebold. http://www.filthyrichmond.com/2008/10/learn-s...
This is how we're going to win this thing:http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/precocious-youngster-sells-cookies-to.html
They're trying to steal ANOTHER fuckin election...
If they know what they're doing is criminal and unAmerican...and yet they continue to do it...what does that make them then?
criminal and unamerican.
they are a group of scoundrels that want to bring us back to the 19th century when only the "correct" people had wealth and comfort and the rest of us struggled to stay alive.
Classic example of a shoplifter accusing someone else in the store of theft. Criminals have a paranoid belief that everyone around them are also criminals. This Acorn crap will backfire by putting the various forms of potential election fraud on alert.
It will backfire for the ages as long as the Dems win. And to be sure we win, it needs to be huge. So get out the vote (friends, family, etc), even if you're in a "safe" state!
They will steal this election. It is the only way that they can win.
I have seen very little regarding possible strategies to take when this occurs.
A national work stoppage might work if enough people participated.
A large peaceful gathering in D.C. might help to raise awareness.
1. ACORN is a community organizing group that works to help the poor by getting them involved in politics.
2. One of ACORN's strategies is to get people to vote. They do this by getting them registered to vote.
3. ACORN hires people to go out into neighborhoods and register people to vote. Note: This is non-partisan activity. In other words ACORN doesn't register democrats only, they just try to get people registered. Though its important to realize poorer people tend to vote democratic.
4. Occasionally people who are paid to get people to register voters get lazy and/or greedy and fill out false registration forms so they can get paid without actually doing the work.
5. This is the most important part: Lazy guy hands in 100 fraudulent voter registration forms. THIS DOES NOT MEAN 100 FICTITIOUS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY TO VOTE. How do I know? Cause they don't exist. The only fraud here is by ACORN's employees against ACORN. That's it.
6. This is the scary part: RNC and associates claim the above process represents massive voter fraud designed to steal the election. McCain even said ACORN (due to the above process) represents a threat to the fabric of our democracy.)
7. Pressure from RNC, conservatives, etc... hamper ACORN from continuing their work... OF REGISTERING VOTERS!
Conclusion: RNC/right-wing attacks on ACORN to stop voter fraud are in fact attempts at voter suppression themselves. Or more simply, The RNC is willing to stop legitimate voters from being registered to vote in order to stop fake voters (who wouldn't vote anyway cause they don't exist, remember?) from registering.
How can it be stopped?
And publicity doesn't help, because the points made above are fairly nuanced, and Middull Murka doesn't do "nuance."
I don't think there is anything particularly nuanced about the fact that ACORN is being cheated, possibly by Republican operatives, while McCain and the media are claiming that the victim is the perp.
In America anything less clear than black and white is considered nuanced.
Nonetheless MOST people in America never heard of ACORN until repubs accused them of voter fraud. Naturally most people will just kinda assume that they are up to something.
You can't stop the right from screaming about this. I just posted what I did cause over the past week I've found myself explaining the dynamic to people who weren't clear on who and what ACORN did, and even more people who didn't understand the connection between stopping ACORN=voter suppression. So I thought I'd break it down. The more that know, the less the impact will be.
...that the MSM does not really "inform" the general public about this. I've only heard one commentator on TV make a clear explanation, similar to yours, about what ACORN does and that registering "Mickey Mouse" doesn't translate into letting the vermin pull a lever/touch a screen on election day.
Very well stated!
This is how they're going to sell their base on 'why Obama won the election' and then for the next 4 years they're going to beat the corporate media drum that we must have 'election reform' (their voter suppression agenda) and set up Palin in 2012....
They know McBush is toast, so they're planning ahead...
But if we have a filibuster proof Democratic majority in both houses...
They ain't gonna be able to pass squat!
This is the situation right now, only in reverse. The Repubs don’t have the ability to pass anything in either House of Congress at the moment, but they have the ability to stop EVERYTHING the Dems propose. It’s a stalemate. With a filibuster-proof Congress, the Dems will have the ability to PASS new legislation and roll-back the Constitutional-stripping legislation which has crippled this Democracy. If they have the courage.
Kidney stone?
...which is exactly why I'm going to vote to keep my Rep in the House - shes' a Democrat, not real bright and not one of my favorites - but I'd really like to see a Full House (of Dems).
Festering butt boils on the lot of them. My district has paper ballots, thank goodness.
I am always caught off-guard at the willfull ignorance of the Villagers - too lazy to read anything that isn't in words of two syllables or less and happy to believe whatever spewage Faux News hate-mongers feed them. I'd like to believe we are an intelligent people but am disappointed far too often. I read things I disagree with because I want to know why people think what they do but too many don't even think. It's too much work and they'd rather be told what to think.
Now I'm really depressed.
And Progressive Social Reform I'll take the latter Thanks.
On a lighter note I just found this in Frank Richs column::
Good evening, Bob.
How's every little thing?
It's almost like the media feels they must balance any talk of this by saying the word "ACORN" in the next sentence. Sometimes I wonder if the news readers even know the difference.
Funny how people change, Seven years ago Lou was an "interesting" voice, until he turned to demagoguery. Now he is my signal to change channels.
Here is something for you POP
Polls Show Obama May Benefit from the ‘BREADLEY Effect’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3945
I can't believe you are voting with machines in the US. It should be in your own hand like the rest of the world. It makes me wonder how much voter fraud has been going on and how far it goes back. The Reptilicans have sure crossed the line not only into criminality but into psychosis. This makes Mugabe's Zimbabwe look like a democracy. Are strategies in place to prevent the Democrats from winning. Or is this just too Orwellian to consider. Even more frightening, is htere anyone out there that can bring these people to justice. The entire Republican Party is stinking right now.
This country's voting system is corrupt,,, even before you get to the polls.
The day before the last general election I got an automated call from an unidentified number advising me to go to the wrong polling station where I would most certainly have been turned away. I understand this was happening in many places.
ALL incumbents would be perfectly happy to never have another election, ever, again, so they could just stay happily on the People's tit forever.
And no incumbent politician EVER wants there to be MORE voters, NEW voters, because every new voter is an unknown who might vote against them. So the incumbents in any race will work mightily to restrain and obstruct the new voters.
Now, also consider the 93 (NINETY-THREE) US Attorneys who WEREN'T fired for insufficient party activism have been busily rat-fucking the system to the advantage of the PUKES.
And there's the peculiarity of the "Bradley Effect" in this election, there's newly anointed Premier Voting Systems (formerly Diebold), Sequoiah, and/or ESS, the vote-fixing companies...
Maybe if republicans weren't such flaming a**holes, people would still vote for them and their fatally toxic, idiotic policies.
But then again, you would have to be an a**hole to vote for those policies in the first place; so I guess what we have is a classic catch 22!
ACORN is being used as a smoke screen to confuse people. They are trying to tie fake voter registration in with all this other monkey business. I don't know if the average voter has time to untangle the accused from the real.
Hopefully the turn out for Obama will be so large that it will wipe out all their attempts to steal another one.
As a friend said the other day, if Repubicans weren't so mean, they wouldn't have a party at all. Their means to all ends is doing whatever it takes, including breaking the law, to win what they want.
Why would a party that has stolen the last two presidential elections - in order to install the most despised imbecile to ever sit in the White House - bring up ACORN?
Simple!
Because they know they are losing big time, and that they are going to have to BLATANTLY try to steal this one - in order to flat-out pull another corporate fascist coup. Therefore, they need to muddy the waters of the voting process by making democrats look guilty also.
That way when the people say you are crooks and theives, they can point back and say "so are the democrats, remember that ACORN thing. Yeah, ACORN! Its classic criminal behavior 101.
Like the kid who gets caught eating the frosting off the cake and points to his little brother and says "Mikey did it too!" It's not that what they did was wrong, but by implicating someone is being as bad as they are, it somehow makes it alright!
Mikey may have been involved, but only by having a smidgen of powdered sugar on his shoe. His brother ate the cake.
Just for scale, look at what the NM Gov is accusing ACORN of – 23 votes (I don’t know where they got that number.) In Ohio they tried to purge 600,000 registrations. Voter fraud is minor. Registration fraud is silly. ELECTION FRAUD is very real. Recall that 'President' Bush won Florida in 2000 by 537 votes
http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676
The DOJ conspiracy to politicize that department is not over. It did not go away. Only the news cycle covering it is over. Just because Gonzo is gone doesn’t mean that the apparachicks inserted into the process left also. They are a malignant cancer that threatens this election. This is why it was so important 2 years ago, and why it remains as important today.
The ACORN fantasy is obviously a cover to redirect attention away from the real ELECTION FRAUD that is being planned and perpetrated.
I think if the margin is so big that they cant steal it major changes should accure in the new administation to real these thugs in.We should demand they get prosicuted from the local thugs all the way up to the top.
The Dallas Morning Nudes ran an op-ed from a FAUX news anchor that voting fraud is the more pressing issue than voter caging or deleting.
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You will never see a modern day republican accused of honesty, honor, or integrity. Never!
They spend their whole lives planning how to get over on the people of America. They are greed for greeds sake. I am so ashamed of having been registered republican for some of my life. How could I have been that ignorant? I did not think I was evil back then, but now I can see what a fool I have been.
I am sorry america for voting for ronald reagan and george bush1 but I never voted for gb2 and will never vote for another lying republican scumbag again.
Your past voting record is nothing to be ashamed of, I'm just glad you changed your mind and hopped over the fence. :)
I hear ya.
I was an independent for many years and voted for many of the republican scumbags that you mentioned. I do feel somewhat better about my past allegiances though, because I take solace in the fact that I voted 50-50 or 60-40 in those days.
Nowadays, I wanna throw up everytime I think about voting for a republican. They ARE pure evil! They ARE fascist, and they are the absolute worst our country has to offer.
I just can't understand how after 8 years of dumbya, 40%+ in this country could even consider voting for McStupid?
Regardless, I feel much better about myself since I started voting straight Democrat years ago. Its like taking a shower, and washing away the republican filth and slime.
Like you, NoGWBpolicyleft, I had ALWAYS considered myself to be an Independent, albeit I generally voted for the Democratic ticket excepting some local elections. The policies of the current regime in power (by any means necessary), as well as the Reichwing NeoCon Joe Liberman's adoption of the "Independent" moniker, has led me to declare that I am a "Huey Long" Populist, forevermore.
If the NeoCons, their Corporatist Democrat allies, and their NeoFascist Supreme Court don't STEAL the 2008 election outright, I will be surprised. If Barack Obama wins the election and actually survives his first term (let alone until Inauguration Day on 20 January, 2009), I will be surprised. (Some day in the not-too-distant future, American patriots may be hunting down NeoCons and NeoFascists in this country the way that wolves and bison were hunted to near extinction a century ago.)
IMHO, the only hope for a continued democratic republic under the rule of law AND the
US Constitution (yes, all of it, including all of the Bill of Rights) is a REVOLUTION here. It
may take a 1-citizen, 1-vote revolution at the ballot box in two parts: 2008 to clear out
the Republicans, and then 2010 to clear out the Blue-Dog and Corporatist Democrats.
Any liberal, moderate, or conservative-minded citizen (not NeoCon or NeoFascist) in
favor of the Rule of Law, and of social justice should be Demanding impeachment of the
current regime, AND their cronies in the Supreme Court. Since this country has been
"blessed" with Corporatist Democrats in charge of both Houses of Congress,
impeachment IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
But if "We, the People" can oust these Corporatist Democrats and Blue-Dog Democrats
over the next two election cycles, as well as hold the NeoCons at bay, there is a good
chance that the next best thing can be achieved: a Truth and Reconciliation Commission,
used to investigate ALL of the criminal and treasonous activities carried out by the Bush
Crime Family AND their Corporatist Democrat enablers. There have been historical
precedents established for such Commissions, in South Africa, in Argentina, in Peru, and
elsewhere where a Reichwing Fascist regime has been overturned by a Populist
Democratic revolution.
Without either Impeachment or a Truth and Reconciliation Commission there can be no
call-to-accounts, no social justice, no Rule of Law, and no surviving US Constitution and
Bill of Rights. And without such a thorough investigation, criminal prosecutions, and
even war crime trials, there will be no possibility of a national healing that binds us
together as Americans. The predictable alternative outcome is real CIVIL WAR and
REVOLUTION, of the French kind.
Am checking to see if I am logged in right??????
I prefer a peppery Democracy
Just not with grape-shot.
I almost wrote a pun about pepper just to beat you to the draw. I knew it was coming from you sooner or later. ;)
You achieved a pun in either case. I said grape-shot, and you said beat you to the draw.
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Make sure your friends vote. We can't have people staying at home thinking Obama's got it in the bag. Offer rides to the polls... whatever it takes to get them there.
It's a lot easier to fix an election if it's close. Let's make sure it's not close!!
If you or your fellow voters have a problem with the voting machine make sure that the media and any voters standing in line hear about it. If possible have the machine shut down.
http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676
Y'all might like to see my computer at work background
http://www.horrorstew.com/images/SalemsLot11.jpg
The only true case of voter fraud I recall from the last presidential election was cast by the succubus, Ann Coulter.
Would you want ann to suck your bus?
Yes, and breath in the exhaust very deeply.
For the talking part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9muzyOd4Lh8
No "Late Lament"?
Succubae are supposed to look like beautiful women!
Looks a bit like Elizabeth Kucinich, wouldn't you say?
http://kaganof.com/kagablog/wp-content/upload...
I forgot to identify her, she's Lilith, Queen of the Lilim, often taken to be succubae.
I am impatiently waiting for 8am here to find out if I'm registered. xoites noticed this weekend that I am not receiving any candidate junk mail and suggested I check. When I tried to look me up this weekend, I am not there. There is someone with my name my birthdate and the last 4 digits of my social registered as a republican at an address in Las Vegas (I live in Henderson). I have been registered here at this address for 3 years and I did receive the primary ballot a few months ago and I voted in the caucus. I'm on pins and needles waiting to see if I was purged. Will report back after 8.
Janet -
Please let us know the outcome. I really hope you are able to vote. I can't imagine being disenfranchised. To my knowledge, this sort of thing doesn't happen in Canada. I can't believe Americans register to vote by party. It makes no sense whatsoever and clearly can lead to abuse.
Isn't the picture becoming clearer? They are hell bent on stealing the election. They know when they do, because Obama has so many supporters there will be an uprising. That is where the military that Bush has assigned to this country comes in as well as all of his private militias such as Blackwater. I presume the prisons he had built by Halliburton will also now be implemented.
I pray this is an incorrect assumption but it all fits together neatly like a puzzle. We have seen the pieces over the past 8 years but were missing a couple of essential ones like this newest attempt to steal the election. I do believe all the pieces, at least the major ones are now visible and the picture is not at all pretty.
keep your gun clean and lots of ammo.
"....5. This is the most important part: Lazy guy hands in 100 fraudulent voter registration forms. THIS DOES NOT MEAN 100 FICTITIOUS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY TO VOTE. How do I know? Cause they don't exist. The only fraud here is by ACORN's employees against ACORN. That's it....."
You're right, #5 is the important part...but you left off part (sort of like only reading half of the 1st amendment), that being - once your registered, you are allowed to vote.
THIS MEANS THAT LAZY GUY CAN VOTE 100 TIMES.
You can vote again after a poll worker shift change. You can vote again in a busy time period. You can vote in a different location. You can vote early and you can vote often - there is nothing to stop you.
Now if the Republicans were doing this [They actually have done much worse than what they ALLEGE ACORN has done-Sitemonitor] you'd all be crying foul, demanding investigations into the whole process [We tried, but when the Republic Party criminals are running investigations into their own wrongdoing...Sitemonitor] that allows one person the ability to vote 100 different times (or in the case of Ohio, 200,000 times). But I don't hear any thing that approaches fair play [We're supposed to play fair with bullies and cheats? Sitemonitor] from this site that says it's purpose is to oust crooks and liars. [Source for that, please? Sitemonitor]
[Deleted. You have your opinion. Which, BTW, is NOT fact. That's fine. Try really hard not to insulting the overwhelming majority of our posters while whining and mewling on this site about how your man has ruined it for the rest of us-Sitemonitor]
You absolutely do not know what you are talking about.
"...there is nothing to stop you."
Except the efforts of the election authorities weeding out the invalid registrations. A process that is, in fact, happening.
Try again.
Wow, there are so many things wrong with your argument that I don't know where to begin. Have you ever actually voted in a voting booth?
You have absolutely NO FUCKIN IDEA of what you're talking about, ya fuckstick!
And the republiCONS DID do it...in 2000 and 2004.
Mon, 10/20/2008 - 07:07 — Just Passin Thru (not verified)
That one guy is in all liklihood trying to pad his numbers to get paid. There's no profit in simply voting.
And more than likely most if not all of the fake registrations are in only a small number of precincts, who would recognize someone coming in more than once.
Try again.
THIS MEANS THAT LAZY GUY CAN VOTE 100 TIMES.
That one brief sentence alone is contradictory, if he's lazy, why would he do anything a hundred times?
Block the Vote
Will the GOP's campaign to deter new voters and discard Democratic ballots determine the next president?
These days, the old west rail hub of Las Vegas, New Mexico, is little more than a dusty economic dead zone amid a boneyard of bare mesas. In national elections, the town overwhelmingly votes Democratic: More than 80 percent of all residents are Hispanic, and one in four lives below the poverty line. On February 5th, the day of the Super Tuesday caucus, a school-bus driver named Paul Maez arrived at his local polling station to cast his ballot. To his surprise, Maez found that his name had vanished from the list of registered voters, thanks to a statewide effort to deter fraudulent voting. For Maez, the shock was especially acute: He is the supervisor of elections in Las Vegas.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23...
Does anyone know how many times that Mickey Mouse,Donald Duck and Yogi Bear have actually registered/voted? These seem to be some of the names that always show up in the illegal voters registrations?
Who would be as stupid enough to show up to vote with a voters registration card in Yogi,Goofy,George Bush... name?
It only has to look close. They steal the election courtesy of Diebold and the MSM's constant repetition of how close the races is based on controlled polling provides the plausibility of Obama's defeat.
OR
Obama wins in a landslide due to massive voter turnout, and the seeds of plausibility are planted courtesy of ACORN outrage, thus tainting the outcome and whipping up anger enough and justification enugh to kill Obama.
Never surprised by the NeoCons, the nerve of them, to claim the ability to read minds. They are playing the race card and trying to drive a race wedge in this country. They held him in high esteem but once he speaks his mind, gives valid reasons for his decision, they say it is race based. Nonsense. Watch and forward the political short film/ad McCain does not want you to know the answer to? Can you solve the theorem…”The Thinking Man” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KzbJtG9V2E
The right-wingers claim that an Obama loss will result in race riots across the country - but what about the opposite situation?
We likely won’t see a wave of violent protests and riots if McCain-Palin loses. Remember the rise of anti-government, “patriotic” private militias during the Clinton years? This time it will be an even bigger phenomenon with the inclusion of rabid racists. They will insist that the election was stolen - that Obama’s win will confirm their delusional view of America as a suicidal multicultural, politically-correct, welfare-based socialist nation. It will be hellish, with the right-wing blogs and talk radio fanning the flames. I sincerely hope I am wrong - but we know I’m not.
Like almost everyone else on this site - you almost have the facts, but not quite.
It's the spokespeople for the left who are calling for race riots if Obama loses the election - "...cause it's obviously stolen....just like it was so obviously stolen in Florida..."
This site supposedly roots out all crooks and liars - all it manages to do is misinform, misdirect and encourage the lies of crooks on the left under the assumption that anything 'left' is sacred.
A sadder observation is the volume of low quality, business that's generated....actually believing that hundreds of thousands fraudlent voter registrations won't generate ANY fake votes....yeah right.
A person is known not only by what they say and do, but also by the company they keep.
We have a McPoints winner!
ACORN was investigated in 2001 and again in 2004 and 2006. In each case, they had people turning in fraudulent forms rather than work for their money. ACORNs fault in not changing their operating methods to change that.
But even prosecutors who have tried cases of this ilk admit there isn't a single provable instance of such a registered fake being used to actrually vote. In many cases it would be lunacy to try - you'd have to have an ID in the name of Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck or Ben Dover.
But you keep trying "Just Passing Air".
Oh, and did you see the bit where the GOP operative conning people into changing their registrations got arrested? Silent on that, aren'tcha.
Regards, C
Hey Just Passin Thru:
Your lack of an actual ID kinda shows your style, dude.
I really wanna know where you Wing-Nut-Job Trolls get your Talking-Points? Is there a site where you all download a Bible of Trash-Talking Tripe... or do you all just plug in and download Rush and his Racist horse Patooties? Or are you all just drowning in the Kool Aid?
I see you learned your trade from That One and the press - when you don't like the message, beat up the messenger (just call me Joe).
As for ID - ha! Like I would waste time at a site like this. Of random visits over time, the note was sent to the administrator (as much as the readers) as a complaint of false advertising and a statement of disappointment of the direction the site took.
But you obviously didn't/couldn't understand that.
I voted in the Canadian federal election a few days ago.
Voting registration is simple and uncontroversial here. If you move and aren't yet registered in your constituency on voting day, you can bring ID and proof of residence to the poll, register on the spot and vote.
Voting is by paper ballot. No electronic voting machines are used anywhere in the country. Canada is the 2nd biggest country in the world - and everything gets counted in a single day, with no doubt about the accuracy and legitimacy of the vote count.
What I don't understand at all is registration by party. Why should anyone want or need to tell the government what their party affiliation is? This only creates the conditions for fraud, abuse and partisan registration-hacking.
Thank you. My questions exactly. We have never had any of these problems in Canada. No one worries about any of this. We go to the polls with any credible ID, and if it looks like you are Canadian, and/or have an address, and/or pay taxes, and/or pay utility bills, and/or drive a car, etc., etc., you VOTE. Simple. (We can also use our "socialized" health care card, as proof of residency, and everyone has one.)
I suspect it's been a long slow process to get where you are today; slowly disenfranchising millions. That is not democracy.
The next government (under Obama) had better take a long hard look at your system!!!
If this goes down, as the GOP are planning, and the public is in disbelief (yet again) do you think the Cold Civil War will remain cold? Or will people "take to the streets"?
The stupid. It burns.
In my DECADES of voting experience in the US, NEVER have I left a precinct without having identified myself, AND signed off for my ballot. If I come in after I do these things, gosh darn it, I WONT GET A FRICKING BALLOT to vote again. How simple is that to underfrickingstand? What is the possibility of voters getting in a car or bus or what have you to go vote at another precinct? How about none? Less than none?
Lord.
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