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FNS: McCain Says Palin Is A Counter To "Liberal Feminist Agenda"

Oh good lord, is he kidding me?

WALLACE: ...(H)asn't Governor Palin become a drag on your ticket?

MCCAIN: As a cold political calculation, I could not be more pleased. She has excited and energized our base. She is a direct counterpoint to the liberal feminist agenda for America. She has a wonderful family. She's a reformer. She's a conservative. She's the best thing that could have happened to my campaign and to America

A cold political calculation to counter the liberal feminist agenda? Somebody has been listening to Rush's "feminazi" rants a little too much.

Between his air quotes around 'health of the mother', the self-admitted cold calculation that women vote with their vaginas and would migrate en masse from Hillary to his campaign, and his record of being against equal pay, health care funded birth control and choice, I'd say that this is either a really lame rationalization for the worst campaign ever or he specifically doesn't want women voting for him.

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"liberal feminist agenda"?

OH -- you mean EQUALITY.

Yeah ... can't have none o' that in AmeriKKKa. Nip it in the bud, Barney. Nip it in the bud.

Yep, and exactly what is the "Liberal Feminist Agenda"?
Is it some kind of plot by women to be treated with as much respect and dignity as men. Is it the PLOT to take control over their own bodies? (ever notice how the "Right To Life" Whackos are mostly men?

Yeah, it's kinda' like the dreaded "Homosexual Agenda," to wit:

06:30 -- get up
06:35 -- make coffee
06:45 -- eat breakfast
07:00 -- take shower
07:25 -- carpool to office...

(and so on)

I wasn't aware of any agenda. Did I miss the liberal feminist memo? Dang, I gotta start working less!

That's what conservatards had to say about suffragettes too.

What a fossil. What a washed-up loser.

If by "best thing to happen to my campaign" he means "the thing that removed all doubt about my willingness to brazenly compromise or willfully abandon all of my ostensible "values" in order to achieve my own personal ambition", then yes, I agree whole-heartedly.

I said when the pick was announced that I loved it, for this very reason. It's the most shameless example of "gotcha" campaigning we've seen in our lifetimes, and the fact that this blithering gasbag is willing to risk the political stability of the entire nation to get elected is just a little bit flabbergasting.

Th Number One reason to sign up as a poll worker...

ignore this comment

Suddenly, I'm all nostalgic for the old-style voting booths.

Said the guy name Woody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5zwBBFJ63c

)O(

that tired nonsensical answer to everything...
even when letterman asked his if palin was acutally ready for a 3am crisis, he said something like "She has excited and energized our base."

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damn... again, with the log in...
no time now...

But

In voting, that's the wrong lever to yank.

Well, she certainly hasn't energized my base -- after all, there's only so much seething ugliness that skin-deep beauty can conceal.

Yep, if she is so great why are her unpopular vote up 45% and rising am sure. She is no woman I know. If conversative women would want to protect a woman's right to have an abortion in case of rape or incest. Palin is no woman, she is a man in womens cloths. Ugh I can't stand her. Pray, pray, pray they don't win this election. I can't imagine the worse thing that could happen to the amrican people.

is right! Even Joe the Plumber can help this sinking ship.

(Best with sound on.)

Are either selfish, or stupid.

Needed a gun for pheasant hunt, went to gun show in Texas. It was a shock! Gun show sponsored by NRA (didn't know that or we wouldn't have gone) There were enormous McCain/Palin signs everywhere. There were blue McCain hats and T-shirts, pink Palin hats and T-shirts worn by customers and sold by vendors. If there hadn't been so many guns, we would have worn our Obama caps. Needless to say, we bought nothing.

The air quotes thing make him look like a demented rabbit, he really needs to stop that.

The last paragraph is brilliant. Perfectly summarizes how screwed up this guy is.

Have that baby beeotch or die trying!!!

In a round about way, Palin has been the best thing that could have happened to America. But not the way McStain wants it to happen. She energized our side to fight against her and everything she stands for.

Keep opening your yap, Palin, you slut. You are just digging your own political grave with your racist, fear-mongering crap!

But doesn't suffragettes sounds like something Sylvester the Cat would say, "Sufferin' suffragettes!

It could even be a new Sir Elton John song, Lenny and the Suffragettes.

)O(

Wasn't that Sylvester's line?

"Sufferin' Succotash"

"succotash'--apart from being a very funny sounding word--being a vegetable dish composed of lima (or butter) beans and corn stewed with cream and tomato...

I had to look this up -- it was the great Mel Blanc who did Sylvester's voice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Blanc) in the cartoons. Wikipedia says that his natural voice was just like Sylvester's, "but without the lispy spray." Which is how he always said (or sprayed) "Sufferin' succotash!" (Thanks for the memory!)

BTW, "suffragette" is a derogatory term first used to insult British women who were working for voting rights.

"Suffragist" is really the right word, and it can mean men too -- anyone who's advocating the right to vote.

You are the bee's knees.

Yes

I am hairy

Except where I wannabe

It's called the Scottish curse.

Palin has also excited and energized Obama's base.

I coordinate and facilitate six swing-state phone-banks every week in my northern California town, and when McCainb announced that Palin would be his running mate, my phone bank volunteers increased by about 2 1/2 times.

Thank-you Sen. McCain!

She's the fantasy that sustained him in the Hanoi Hilton.

It's bedtime for Bob. It's been nice............I'm hoping one day soon to come home to visit a new FREE America. Free of the "Yoke of Tyranny" that bushco has put upon the good citizens.

In the meantime, I will sleep under the fan in my bedroom listening to the rain.

Ciao

that Nancy Pfotontorpedo would help him find his ass with both hands on this issue. Think again.

LOL..That's right stupid McShame, keep talking and keeping putting those nails in your own coffin dude. I like that.

Ciao

OMG, that is brilliant -- I'm shedding tears of laughter here. Thank you!

In keeping with that old, tried-and-true, GOPuke Maxim: Never send a Cnut/trollop to do a MILF's work...

That's McCain's excuse for choosing her? Good God. He chose someone who'd have made a great housewife in 1954. What does that have to do with the presidency?

Palin is a "counter" to thinking people everywhere, an insult to the intelligence of the overwhelming number of people in this country who can see right through her for the dangerous fraud she truly is.

The thought of Moose Lady having access to the nuke codes should send shivers down everyone's spines. Dems, Reps, Indies and others.

Seriously, if you vote for McSame, you're either rich or stupid. Plain and simple.

Yeah, its a cold and calculated move alright.

Like every cold and calculated move that every woman like me who has tried to get ahead has had to face, from sexist moronic patriarchs like himself.

The only good that Palin has brought has been to amplify the backwards agenda of the far-right so that the apparently tone deaf electorate can finally hear it.

If you know any woman who is voting for the Palin/McSame ticket take note. Do not ever forget who that woman is becasue that woman should be shunned every time you see or encounter her. She does not care about women's rights. She will have taken this country back 100 years with her vote.

agreed

Abortion. Palin meets and exceeds all the other criteria as a successful woman balancing family and career.

Successful? Having your husband weigh in on all your decisions and attend all of your meetings?

Having your 17 year old daughter get knocked up is successful parenting?


...........is in the eye of the beholder; you know, like beauty and pornography; ask any foot fetishist :-).

Grandma just looks SO pleased as she gazes adoringly at the youngest female Palin here -
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2hnqk35&s=4
or here if you're a tiny URL fan -
http://tinyurl.com/5mq4az

The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Between his air quotes around 'health of the mother', the self-admitted cold calculation that women vote with their vaginas and would migrate en masse from Hillary to his campaign....

Lord help me, but I wish I were a cartoonist to pick up on this "vote with their vaginas" meme. Somebody could have a rollicking crude time with it! For one thing, the voting booths would need to be restructured...or ladders supplied for voters of the female persuasion. Would the voting be with paper ballots and pens or touch-screens? It would make a difference. Would women be able to practice ahead of time, and where?

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It would certainly suggest what they should do with a voting lever.

without using their hands!
I hope they pee on the repug ticket this election.

During this campaign we have seen very frightened white men (my apologies to white men for the global dump) ex. Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, McCain do the best they can to demean people of color, women who want to dare to act like they have rights in America. The examples are many...

So I guess it is my job to make sure their agenda is not put forth.

Believe me as a woman who works for white men I know first hand what it is like to be ridiculed and demeaned by white men who know better then poor addled brain me.

But I am not bitter, really I am not. Thank God for Palin. Women like me won't be able to voice my bitterness all over the tubes, or the internets... tap tap can you hear me?

Any white man who is a feminist understands the global dump on white males.

No problem.

So... I don't like McCain at all. I don't like Palin at all, either. I don't like anything about either of them.

However, I have to say that I think that "a cold political calculation" is being interpreted incorrectly here. I think what McCain was saying was that, in response to Wallace's question, he was answering based on the numbers alone. He wasn't saying that choosing Palin was a "cold political calculation."

Neither side should be willingly misinterpreting a candidate's remarks. There's plenty of other words in that quote that show of McCain's lack of understanding of the word "feminism." But "cold political calculation" is not a part of them.

He couldn't exactly call her a "coont" and a "trollop", could he? Oh wait....

Wow has she been letting him feel of that frozen tundra?
wow.

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I thought that was Victoria Iseman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTJ_n9Oqs0

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I thought that was Victoria Iseman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTJ_n9Oqs0

But moderately amusing.

He's totally got it wrong. Palin the best thing that's happened to the Obama/Biden ticket. Go Sarah!

I stutter when I drink.

Countering the liberal feminist agenda? That may seem crazy to say to us, but to the right it means only one thing- stopping abortion. This is a "dog whistle" remark that is intended to let the base know that McCain intends to do away with choice, while being largely disregarded by the rest of us.

Don't kid yourselves that it is just another casual stupidity.

If the liberal feminist agenda is to get a woman elected to pres or vp, I guess McCain is right, cause Palin is definitely a counter to that.

is just to let him continue to think as he does/speak as he is. It'll continue their journey down the path to defeat.

"We don't have any of these University Women in Perry County [Arkansas], but I'll tell you what we do up there when one of our women
starts poking around in something she doesn't know anything about. We get her an extra milk cow. If that don't work, we give her a little more garden to tend. And if that's not enough, we get her pregnant and keep her barefoot." ~from a 1963 speech by Representative Paul Van Dalsem of Perryville, Arkansas

Everytime I see a McCain/Palin bumpersticker, and it's a woman driving the car in question, I shake my head and am honestly perplexed. How can any modern, intelligent woman support such a ticket ? Seriously ?!
It's like they're so stuck in la-la land that they cannot understand that voting for that ticket would set their own rights back 100 years. I honestly do not understand this. Do women like this still exist ?
*sigh*

neck of the woods. Of all the women I have daily contact with, like at work, I can count on one hand the number who are voting for Obama. The others are terrified Obama is going to turn this into a black muslim terrorist nation with white being made into slaves. And believe me I have tried every rational way to point out the lunacy of that thinking. So sad.

Where the fuck do you work. You should quit. How can you work with so many ignorant idiots? Every woman I know and respect are NOT voting for Palin. They are voting for Obama. They a sickened by what Palin has done for the women's movement. I suggest you leave from where you work as fast as you can. Get the hell out of Dodge.

change the world? I work in Arkansas,'nuff said?

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I've nevery owned a Chevy.

Yes, in uninformed stupid world they are plentiful

How does McCain insult me?
Let me count the ways.

"She's the best thing that could have happened to my campaign and to America".

Thus MKKKain's choice of Palin guaranteed Obama's victory, which is the best thing that will happen to America in a long, long time!

She is right up there with brownie, gonzo, rummy and the rest of the loyal bushies with a dash of the Liberty U all stars.

I think McCranky just thinks women are stupid.

Yeah, those crazy liberal feminists think that women shouldn't be forced at gunpoint by the government to give birth to their rapists' babies. They actually think that women, and not the government, should have dominion and control over their own bodies. Silly liberal feminists!

Come on folks, let's be real. There's plenty to criticize about the Cult of Eternal Victimhood. I finished high school in the mid 1970s which means that I have lived three decades of feminism and watched it first hand. There has never been as whiney and misandrist as group as academic feminists.

You can discount my opinion but how do you explain the fact that the majority of American women reject this form of feminism?

The feminists jumped the shark a few years ago with their virulent attack on Harvard's president for merely conjecturing on why so few women go into the sciences as well as NOW's insane attack on the Augusta Billionaire's Golf Club for not allowing women in.

I personally loathe Palin and have lost all respect for Mccain, but he has a point.

Palin is a guppie compared to the feminist barracudas of which McCain speaks.....thumbs up for McCain calling this group and it's wicked agenda out. I'm sure his campaign advisers begged him not to go there. Politically it only harms his image but on a ethical and moral standpoint it shows McCain does have courage and does speak from the heart whether it's the popular choice or not. This group and it's agenda are dangerous for all Americans.

Women do vote with their vaginas...and to keep the government and Republicans out of them with their efforts to overthrow not merely Roe v. Wade, but all contraceptive services.

As a woman, let me say, I love being marginalized by some jerk born with a silver spoon in his mouth, nurtured by a woman's fortune.

If John McCain had ever worked in the real world, perhaps he'd have a little bit more empathy for women'a issues. But when he was at the Naval Academy there were no women, very few in politics until recently.
So he has spent a lifetime in one boys' club or another.

By God, it would appear he likes it that way. And when you look at how he treated his first wife, how he seems to be using his second wife, and the lovely, empty-headed bimbette he's chosen as a running mate, you know what John thinks of women.

John, this one thinks exactly the same of you.

If John McCain had ever worked in the real world, perhaps he'd have a little bit more empathy for women'a issues. But when he was at the Naval Academy there were no women, very few in politics until recently.

I suppose the hookers John visited while in the navy didn't raise the issue.

McCain is delusional. But I agree with him. Palin is probably the best thing that could have happened to America because shes scaring away voters from the Republican ticket

ot - sorry, can't wait for open thread...

The Palin Rap on SNL last night.

http://democrazyarkansas.blogspot.com

Conservatives have never been in touch with America's women. Here's a great example of conservative thinking when it comes to women:

I work with two Republican supporters of Bush and McCain. When Obama was first considering candidates for his vice-president, the possibility that he might pick Hillary Clinton was considered. They both agreed that would never happen because "Michelle Obama would never stand for it, she would tell Barak, "I won't risk having Hillary show up at a state dinner wearing the same gown I wear," and "I don't want another woman in the White House."

Conservatives think all women are like the Stepford Wives they hold prisoner in their homes. It's okay for the parasite John McCain to feed on his Stepford wife's wealth , but it's not okay for her to be anything other than a brainless, dutiful servant to the "master of the house," Parasite John. Yes, a Stepford Wife is allowed to voice jealousy over another woman, but this is done only to bolster he husband's fragile sense of manhood. The fact is that all conservative men are cowardly wannabes, overcompensating guilt-ridden closet queens.

Conservative men and their Stepford Wives are unable to fathom the existence of professional women such as Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton, intelligent women who have worked their way up from essentially nothing to become the dedicated and strong professionals they are today.

Well, I'm happy and relieved to hear that there IS a Liberal, Feminist Agenga. 'Bout time!

But really, "She is a direct counterpoint to the liberal feminist agenda for America. She has a wonderful family."

Oh, I guess you can't have a wonderful family if you're Liberal and Feminist. These people breed like rabbits. I realize there isn't much to do in Alaska but kill things and drill.

He is just creepy when he talks about her.

And has anyone else noticed that he has relied on women his whole life to advance him?
- 1st wife, who was popular in Conservative circles, stuck by him while he was a prisoner of war, raised HIS wonderful family;
- Vietnamese nurse who saved him from being beaten to death by villagers when he was shot down;
- 2nd wife Cindy (whom he lift 1st wife for when she was no longer useful to him), whose millions bankrolled him in politics;
- Now he picks that pathetic, unqualified Sarah Palin to shore up his base (and not much else).

She won't even be invited to the 2012 Convention...She'll be its Katherine Harris, mark my words.

I know three moderate Republicans who said McCain's choice of Palin made their decision easier. They're voting for Obama.

Thanks Sarah!

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I suppose to counter the feminist "Librul" agenda...
... Sarah will be relinquishing her voting rights?

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I think McCain is confused, thinking Reagan's BS on taxes and pandering to the conservative base is actually a winning strategy in a general election. The guy's out of touch and incoherent even when he's not outright lying.

that John McCain might be an elaborate Trojan Horse to undermine the GOP...he's doing such a good job of it.

Yeah.....3 years ago I would have been laughing at the accusation of a feminist agenda thriving beneath our noses. HOWEVER, I found out first hand it exists and it's very well organized and "energized". I went to work for the National Association of Social Workers. If you're a social worker being a member is almost a "must have" on your resume so not all are voracious feminist. The "active" members, on the other hand, are approximately 99% female democrats and their agenda is far left of left. My first week on the job the organization's State Director told me she was communist. I laughed until I realized she was serious....eek. The two national chapters, the cash cows, are in D.C. and "The New York Lesbians". Their reference not mine. I can tell stories that make chills run down the spines of average female democrats. Trust me, I'm no right wingnut by any stretch of the imagination but this group and it's agenda "EXISTS" and it can and will devour thousands of Sarah Palin's who dare to stand in it's way.
These aren't your mother's feminists. Suffrage????? HA more like PUNISH-ment!!!!

What is the liberal feminist agenda the right wing scum find so offensive?

*Women want contol over their own bodies
*Women want to recieve equal pay as men
*Women want to be treated as equals to men.

Do right wingers oppose all these things?

WHY??????

Do they hate women?

The feminist movement as we know it was hijacked years ago by a bunch of socialist scum. Their agenda has nothing to do with women's rights except to use it as a guise. They left the word "feminist" in their title for fear the word "communist" might scare most Americans. Unfortunately this guise has been successful, note the comments, using women to come to their defense. Free thinking, independent women should be outraged. Outraged at the scumbags using issues important to all women to further their "communist" agenda. Be smart,dig deeper and don't allow the "Weather Girls Underground" to use true women's rights issues for all the wrong purposes. McCain isn't insulting women he's exposing the real "lipstick pigs" that are betraying all women both conservative and liberal.

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