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Darth Cheney spoke today in response to President Obama's morning speech about torture and Guantanamo Bay. As Dave Noon at LGM says, it was "a masterwork of dishonesty founded on the assertion that torture works, that Americans should be proud of and grateful for an administration that broke the law, and that such lawlessness did nothing to undermine the nation's values or moral standing."

Greg Sargent observes:

He called on Obama to use his presidential powers to declassify the intelligence that Cheney says will prove torture worked, ensuring that this debate will continue.

Cheney’s bid for that intel, you’ll recall, was denied by the CIA, because it’s at the center of a separate legal battle. ... This seems like an effort to try and keep this debate going beyond today and to keep the “Obama versus Cheney showdown” meme alive in the media. It’s only a matter of time before Cheney starts saying that Obama’s failure to declassify this info shows that the President has broken his vow of transparency and is refusing to release the info because it proves Cheney is right that torture works.

I'm wondering how Cheney can continue to claim that a torture regime and a horrific facility like Gitmo "kept us safe" when, in fact, we've seen many times over -- recently embodied in the brouhaha over the torture detainee photos' release -- the reality that it has made America less safe over the long haul, because it has inspired the recruitment of a fresh generation of America-hating terrorists. That 2006 National Intelligence Estimate made this point explicitly.

Yes, Dick Cheney and his wrecking crew may have effectively overcompensated for their manifest failures in counterterrorism on 9/11 by resorting to intelligence-gathering that destroyed America's moral standing in the world, and it may have been enough to tamp things down while they were still in office (though the evidence of that is quite thin indeed).

But the ends do not justify the means. Especially not when the end is only a temporary safety, gained by measures that promise even worse attacks in the years to come.

Thanks for nothing, Dickhead.

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DamOTclese's picture

Why is that terrorist and traitor still walking around freely among us? Why isn't he in prison along with Bush, Powell, Rice, and the other Christanic terrorists and traitors?

We didn't 'bring this on ourselves'. Cheney brought this upon us! cheney did it. Cheney did it.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

That evil, satanic, antichrist Cheney did it. He is a terrorist who likes, LIKES to hurt people. Snarl, snarl, snarl. Why would you believe someone who has been WRONG on everything.

has anyone wondered if cheney has not peppered
the classified intelligence that he kept in that
big dicked private mansize safe in his office, with
falsified documents just for the purpose of
making him look like he is right.

face it, cheney is a fucking bastard who
will stop at nothing to destroy America
and we already know he will break constitutional
laws....there is no limit to his lowness.

John's picture

Mr. Cheney for keeping our country safe

Tax the Rich's picture

Yeah, especially on 9-11-2001.

Where do people as clueless as you are come from?


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

Dan Quayle was made fun of for being a blubbering idiot, at least he had more sense that Cheney.

Quayle never said "You know, torturing people could really help push this Iraq war along..."


'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique

bamboozled's picture

getting ANY attention, much less a press conference of this magnitude. Except for those that became president.

Wasn't Bobby Jindal available for a rebuttal?

Biggus Diggus's picture

Hope he never gets his clutches on any kind of power again. Same old recycled arguments and lies as ever.

Rollo Tomassi's picture

Remember in 2004 when your Neo-Con friends told you you were being a tinfoil-hat paranoid conspiracy theorist when you told them that it was Cheney and not Bush who was really running the administration?

Anyone want odds on which speech will get more air time tonight? I've got 10 to 1 on Cheney so far.

neoconbuster's picture

Cheney speech reportedly refers to 9/11, 25 times:

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/21/cheney...

The Big lies need to be repeated over and over again to, as Bush said "Catapult the Propaganda".

Big Lies include more than just 9/11. Other protected lies we never hear anything but disinformation on: Kennedy. Holocaust. Hinkley Jr.

We can't even HAVE public opinions that question any of these lies. (some countries will throw you in jail if you question them)

And in case your wondering, I like all the people and races of the world.

Except those evil people who rule Antarctica with an iron fist.. ;P

http://christianparty.net/holocaustredcross.jpg

As Bishop Williamson said "I only believe it because that is where the facts lead me."

Sherlock Holmes would be pissed at our ability to ignore obvious logical points.


'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique

Liberal AND Proud's picture

This miserable, old bastard is a blight of pure evil on the planet.

There is only one way that he will ever shut up, and it can't happen soon enough.

I hope it is slow and painful. He has it coming.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

sixandseveneights's picture

the original LSDM.

... is a meme even more precious to the Bushies - the meme that "Bush/Cheney kept us safe."

Repeated ad nauseam, this blatant rewrite of history appears to be designed to deflect the most glaring failure of Bush/Cheney: On September 11, 2001, despite explicit warnings, Bush/Cheney did nothing whatsoever to protect the U.S.

But all we hear now is how they kept us safe.


Corruption favors the wealthy.

jitter's picture

Yes, they put them in an island prison.
You have to do that because they are terrorist. Well, maybe some of them are- but why take chances?
Terrorist have super-powers. They can melt steel and bend men to their will.
Besides, here in the homeland we need all the available prison space to lock up our citizenry. We need to build more prisons and build them now.
So far we have, what- 10%of our population locked up? We can do better then that.
But not if we put terrorists in there and they melt all the bars and then go attacking our own citizens before we can imprison them.

MattYellingAtTheMoon's picture

I think Dick is scared. He saw his top lackey Scooter Libby get convicted and this time there is no one who will pardon him or commute his sentence. Cheney is on a full offensive strategy to try and stop and official investigation that could lead to charges and prosecutions. And the Dems being the spineless cowards they are, Cheney will probably win this fight.

-Bush and Company's stealing the 2000 Election is nothing new, happens all the time:
http://yellingatthemoon.com/2009/05/21/the-po...

underCurrents's picture

By speaking out and often about how these obscene acts kept us safe, Mr. Cheney is deflecting any possible action to judge him for war crimes. He just has to keep repeating how these acts were committed for the greater good. The more he repeats it, the more it will assume some credence and the less that a prosecution would be politically acceptable.

He does not have to produce any evidence - in fact, it is better if he is not able to produce evidence. "The current administration won't let me tell you the truth." But every day that he says it aloud is one more day that he does not have to answer for his crimes in a court with rules of evidence.

liberalNmoderation's picture

but that doesn't mean it's gonna work.

Obama to announce he didn't think anyone should be prosecuted. He'll end up just like Pelosi. It'll continuously come back to bite him and the stink of Bush/Cheney will be all over his administration if he doesn't wise up real soon.

proudlyprogressive's picture

For weeks I've been saying the very same thing. Why would a meglomanical sociopath expose itself like this???? Torture and it's 'authorizations' are total crap and he knows it, no matter how much he tries to act the hard guy, he is nothing but a craven coward, and any GI is heads and shoulders above this creep. He only slithered into any 'power' because he helped BOOOSH Sr. murder the Kennedy's and Dr. King. He's like a cat trying to cover it's do-do in a sandbox. Torture must be the key, the way he is acting so paniced.

sixandseveneights's picture

I believe, deep down in my heart of hearts, there is nothing this man would like more than for there to be another terrorist attack on America.

neoconbuster's picture

He indeed executed the first 9-11. Only foolish people can't see that, until he does it one more time!

Sadly he has plenty of money and friends in the MSM to keep on LYING!

quarzacc's picture

This guy is so vindictive that I think your right.

liberalNmoderation's picture

Your opinion is shit.
Go back to your undisclosed location you fascist, cowardly, chickenhawkish, traitorous SOB!!!

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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Like Dick Cheney kept America safe on 09/10/01...
... NOT!

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

surfjac's picture

..kept us safe after 9/11. Dick, can you say "Anthrax".


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ron's picture

a noun, a verb and 9/11.

danger hussein al-malak choom al-khadra's picture

For all we know, we still have a genocidal mass-murdering maniac still on the loose after 8 years with bags of powder at his disposal.

Heckuva job, Bush administration.

"For all we know, we still have a genocidal mass-murdering maniac still on the loose after 8 years..."

For all we know? Heck, we DO know! Cheney! Cheney is still on the loose.

nkdmansam's picture

Dick Cheney would give Darth Vader the willies.

anim8rguy's picture

Every time he opens his mouth and people report on it it gives Cheney credibility.

Stop doing it and he will go away.

I wish we'd just let him rant and shake his fists at those darn kids on his lawn. He'd just stop, eventually, and go away.

Shadowgm's picture

It gives him credibility when the media repeats what he says without critical review, and if you're a 29% who can barely manage to read the little headline blurbs at the bottom of the screen.

Bush. Safe. Uh ... okay.

The goal is to shine as much sunlight on this heaping pile of shit, refute every premise, tear apart every argument, so that all that is left is a pathetic war criminal, who, like all the other war criminals in the recent past - Slobodan Milosevic, Saddam Hussein - will be left to rot in a prison cell.

You positively fuck up the Nation, get kicked to the curb by the voters and yet have the gall to slam the new guy for trying to clean up your mess.

Anyone who claims Obama is just like this bastard and his friends needs an intervention.

MattYellingAtTheMoon's picture

I totally agree with you about Cheney. But he is hardly an anarchist. More like a reactionary, a fascist or Statist. Take your pick.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Antichrist?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

proudlyprogressive's picture

............more likely he is a pip-squeak, craven, coward, school-yard bully ready to fold!! Keep up the pressure. Leave Kneepads Nancy to her fate, but keep the heat on this little, over-blown coward!!!! Just think of the blow-fish and how it puffs itself up to look daunting to an enemy. That is little Dickie-boy right now.

Unfortunately he left a crippled old legitimate war hero standing by the curb holding the bag for the voters to kick.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

Rollo Tomassi's picture

Methinks he doth protest too much,..

pissed off patricia's picture

and too often.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

proudlyprogressive's picture

Yes, that's it! 'Me thinks he doth protest too much'.

I hate how Cheney and the Republicans seem oblivious to the fact that 9/11 HAPPENED ON THEIR WATCH!

underCurrents's picture

While Mr Cheney and others justify the use of torture techniques [the means] because they produced 'actionable intelligence' [the ends], the emerging picture shows us just how wrong this truly is. Based upon the recent testimony before Congress, the use of those torture techniques was introduced by contractors bent on one purpose: to prove a link between al-Qaeda and the regime in Iraq responsible for the 9-11 attacks.

Well, history has already shown us how little accurate, 'actionable intelligence' there was to prove that spurious claim.

Mr. Cheney may as well just go on TV and reiterate that "al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization" over and over again.

In fact, why doesn't he simply do that? Many people will continue to believe him and the rest of us will see him for the confabulating person that he is.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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Dear Dick Cheney,
... And the bank robber does it to feed his family. What makes it legal?
Just like you violated US Law and International Treaties. It's still illegal!
No matter your protestations, like Manson did in court, you're still a criminal.

.


Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

jmj680's picture

should be ashamed of itself for giving this lying bastard air time equal and directly after the president. Why bother televising what you know in adbvance is just going to be the same old self-serving lies.

Which is why I'm glad I haven't supported cable TV (aka, canceled and not paid a bill) in over two years


Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.

JohnnyBravo's picture

These days the only good thing about cable is the internet. Go figure.


NOBODY 2012

pissed off patricia's picture

It doesn't matter what the memos say, torture is still illegal. Does Cheney really want to keep this pot of evil stew boiling? I noticed msnbc had liz cheney on for her opinion and this morning they said she is scheduled tomorrow to be on morning joe once again. Shouldn't she be popping up on Fox?


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Bitter Bud Hussein's picture

How the great white father Dick gets all this air time around the same time they busted some suspected NYC terrorists.

"See?!! I TOLDJA we were right!"

GFY, Dick


Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.

Shadowgm's picture

Let's be clear on what got stopped and who got arrested:

- A bunch of rejects who didn't know how to make bombs, had no access to weapons or explosives, no operational security, no means of vetting their contact's bona fides.

Really? I'm supposed to be COWERING IN FEAR of these IDIOTS?

As the old saying goes, if brains were dynamite, these losers couldn't manage to collectively blow one of their noses.

No ticking time bomb. No waterboarding. Just old-fashioned police work.

I'm AFRAID OF rEPUGS - the real terrusts.

liberalNmoderation's picture

Good ol' fashioned police work...take THAT cheney.

Different Anonymous's picture
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Didn't make the connection betwixt the terr'rist "plot" and ol' "Dick"'s speech, good catch.

I'm sure it's purely coincidental though.

Yeah.

Coincidence.

Antonious Bolonious's picture

do I get to stop seeing the ugly bastard's face all over the place?

TonyT's picture

STFU - You don't get to ask for ANYTHING until you release all notes from your energy task force meeting.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ch...

surfjac's picture

Okay, documents are classified so you have no tangible proof. How about a story, We love stories. Tell us HOW torture and Gitmo made us safe? Please, we're waiting. If you can't, don't put it out there for the world to argue over. All the intelligence in the world has told us that torture doesn't work except to create lies for you to tell America so you can invade a country to steal their oil and make you Halliburton pals rich while they kill American troops with shoddy electric work. Please spare us and go back to sitting on the porch waiting to be tried for War Crimes.
Gosh, what a putz!


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

BigD145's picture

No, it made people hate the US even more. Thanks Dick.

Shadowgm's picture

As noted in the Obama thread, Dick cited Adm. Dennis Blair's assessment that we did, in fact, obtain critical information from the interrogations.

He left off the part where Blair admitted in retrospect that it wasn't worth the cost, and we probably shouldn't have done it.

Samson-'s picture

torture makes america less secure. it really doesn't get any simpler.

but, that said, who says obama stopped the torture program? "closing" gitmo is pure PR.

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

Did Dickhead have a stroke and completely lose his mind, as small as that was to begin with?

yeah, torture made us safer, which is why they are so afraid of releasing photos of detainee abuse for fear of reprisal. This is all very Orwellian.

..desperate case for the crimes he is responsible for. Torture is good.....in his book. Torture produces info you WANT!!....even if it's bull shit. Torture makes them FEAR us!

Such an evil son-of-a-bitch will NEVER understand what he has done to this nation and the world. He deserves to hang!

All the more reason to put this bastard and his criminal accomplices behind bars AT LEAST, for the rest of their disgusting natural lives.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Paul's picture

...can only be found in a maximum security, strict solitary confinement prison, wherein the jailers are Cheney and people like him. The other place is among the buried dead of any convenient graveyard.

No thanks, Dick. I'd rather take my chances with the boogeymen.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Or grab a kleenex.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

wastelandusa's picture

I'm sitting here wondering how far this dick has to go before the GOP finally puts a stop to it, or if they even could. Let's say he completely loses whatever part of his mind he hasn't already lost, and starts showing up on TV and at speeches with a patchy beard, glasses broken, slobbering on himself and shouting and falling all over himself. What would be the process of preventing him from getting the exposure he's obviously desperate for?

Clearly the media outlets aren't gonna stop it, he makes for great ratings.

Shadowgm's picture

... he's Al Gore and will win a Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work on torture advocacy.

liberalNmoderation's picture
HA!

An Inconvenient Untruth.

JTBcat's picture

Does The Dick Cheney need a teleprompter?

DevilDog21's picture

...we live in! Where a man can stand before millions and lie on the one hand, while simultaneously admit he committed criminal acts on the other hand and not only is nothing is done to him, we don't even talk about the possibility of prosecution.

Have to admire the morals of a country like that...

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

Imagine what other countries think of the USA now, listening to the shit coming out of our former VP lying mouth.

pitman's picture

I don't want to sound too intellectual or appearing to impress others on this post, but......... what a fucking dickhead

Can we pick this guy up now and stick him in his cell at Den Haag?

The guy is a war criminal, seriously deranged and trying for the 'revisionist history' to keep himself out of jail.

So many heart attacks, so much reduced blood flow to the brain, he proves his ability to reason and think clearly is lost. They call it pump-head, Dick!

bilhelm-x's picture

Sound familiar? This guy is snarling old ratfucker who deserves an orange jumpsuit.

BobD's picture

Wow the SOB just put the blame for 9/11/01 onto Clinton's shoulders, claimed Clinton failed all through the 90's.

Beautiful, Dick, really cleaning up the GWB admin for the history books.

LeftandLeft's picture

13 minutes of lies, fear and revision from an evil sick man who is so arrogant(and desperately frightened of prison) that he believes that Americans should still listen to him even though he's longer in office and after everything he's done to us, over a Democratically elected President.

Shame on the media for not challenging this bastard.

JohnnyBravo's picture

Why is Cheney getting all of this attention? Why are people listening to him? He's one of the reasons this country is in the mess is in right now! If I was to cause a 10 car pile up on the highway, would people listen to me if I held a drivers' safety class?

Fuck Dick Cheney and all his criminal friends.


NOBODY 2012

DevilDog21's picture

...of corporate owned media.

The 4th estate is dead. Can true democracy be far behind?

neoconbuster's picture

MSM Sucks. Sadly:PR WORKS!

BREAKING:

Obama Says, "There will be NO prosecutions of anyone in Bush administration"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evCeWcRJxSg&eu...

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Darn. Another day when America is not the best she can be.

Oh well...there's always tomorrow.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

This guy needs to shut his fucking mouth. He had eight years to try shit his way, and look at what the world ended up with.

Fuck him.

This one cool collective lying mass murderer.

quarzacc's picture

Is all of dicks comments and spew on torture cannot be used against him if he ever does get called to court on war crimes, because it was not said under oath. Its all considered hear say. Just because they have that good of lawyers! No accountablity

ricky's picture

going into his new vacation home in the Grand Tetons, hopping in the shower, and just as he turns on the water he reads "Wiring By KBR."


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

liberalNmoderation's picture

Check THIS shit out...
un-FUCKING-believable
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/02/60I...

ricky's picture

colonoscopies, and a tropical breeze.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

glogrrl's picture

This country should be ashamed of itself........letting this happen to one of our bravest soldiers. Disgusting!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

quarzacc's picture

hurray for torture. WTF!!!

glogrrl's picture

...who give this criminal air time are complicit in betraying the country. They know he's lying, but they are all dancing to the tune of their corporate masters (all 5 of them!), and nobody loves Mr. Evil Incarnate like corporate masters.....that's because he and Bushie drained the US Treasury and put it in the pockets of those dickwads at the head of the corporations. The man is shameless and will continue to spew his lies as long as these idiots get eyeballs to watch. Vice Cheney does not love this country--5 deferments; he had other obligations--but he's very afraid his ass is going to land in prison if anyone investigates the war crimes of his administration. And Goebbels (I think) said it best, to paraphrase: "If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, pretty soon it is thought of as the truth." And the bigger the lie, the more likely the 21% of brain damaged followers will believe it. I just pray that the majority of Americans have an IQ in the triple digits, at least (unlike the sheeple that follow Cheney) and realize this man is the most dangerous man in the country. We need to send him back to his undisclosed location.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

Carrot and Shtick's picture

As many have already pointed out, there were no additional attacks on US soil since 9-11, much of this could be due to the fact that US forces in the Middle East make more convenient targets.

Symon's picture

Isn't he supposed to be sitting in an undisclosed location in Dubai counting what used to be our his money?

I can't believe his only motivation is spinning the offical record for the history books. He doesn't strike me as the type of guy that gives a damn.

Let me ask you all a question? What charges would you level against Bush and Cheney in the Hague? Please no angry remarks nor any comments me being a troll or any of your usual almost illiterate angry comments. Give me the details of the charges and the prove needed for a conviction.

Liberalicious's picture

Yet you ask your question with a trollish accent....

If it speaks like a troll...what is it?

of a misguided experiment? Perhaps a closet troll?
Clearly he is not a perfect Snowflake Troll, fresh thawed for anytime enjoyment.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

quarzacc's picture

Well as developments unravel torture is a pretty good start isn't it. ex president bush and ex vice chenny did implement this. Another good start would be starting an invasion of a country, thats a pretty strong one to.
On a more personal note I could list a lot but they just would be relevant.

glogrrl's picture

Taking the country to war on a pack of lies (and invading a country that had done nothing to us) and killing 100,000s of innocent people, not to mention over 4,000 of our own brave soldiers

Breaking the Geneva Conventions treaty by torturing POWs (or "enemy combatants," as they so conveniently have renamed them)

Shredding the Constitution of the United States by warrentless wiretapping and scaring the bejeezus out of the American people in order to drain the treasury into the pockets of themselves and their cronies with no-bid contracts for Halliburtin & KBR--resulting in shoddy and dangerous renovations in Iraq and elsewhere

I could go on, but I think that will do it for now.......and don't tell me the nation is more safe....we've never been more unsafe. And, I do believe 9/11 happened on Bush and Cheney's watch. August 6 Presidential briefing, anyone? And to quote Condi--"I believe it was titled, "Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States....."


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

fiver's picture

... for us to draft the indictment and state the all the evidence to be produced at trial.

Hmmmm.... Would you like cake with that?

In the meantime, might I suggest some light reading?


Corruption favors the wealthy.

You rock!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

moonsha's picture

If most of US citizens would just understand the fact that we were misled into war on the false pretense that Iraq was an imminent threat. The intelligence clearly showed this, but there are countless public statements the Bush administration continued to make that contradicted the intelligence.

It is not hard to conclude that people who would deliberately wage a war on innocent people for economic reasons would not use torture as a tool to coerce.

BigIslandDave's picture

"Cheney: Terrorists hate U.S. because of values we live by."

What a crock.

They hate us because we invade sovereign nations for their oil. They hate us because we kill democratically elected officials (see: Chile, 1973) and install our own puppets. They hate us because we're always on the side of the rich, powerful, oppressive and regressive.

Hey, Vampire Dick, our "values" now include torture. God, when will your black, oil-drenched heart give out once and for all?

Ya it's bull.

Besides, Cheney doesn't live by American values at all.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

I guess stuff like the bill of rights, and the Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are no longer American values. Hmm when did those stop being values?

Now what you said is not necesarrily untrue but it is the most limited interpetation of "American Values" I have ever heard. It's like me saying that your Stalin because you are a Democrat

That Mick Piobr's picture

Cheney was only in pursuit of happiness when he commited those crimes against humanity!

My bad.

Liberalicious's picture

Your comment makes absolutely no sense. Well, maybe they do on planet Wingnuttia, or just somewhere within you own precious skull. But honestly, they make no sense to anyone with sense.

much time on the back burner.

http://www.yoderpopcorn.com/


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

Liberalicious's picture
!

Them Amish are just too clever!

glogrrl's picture

...Right on! And I have a book for you to read about that very thing: The Shock Doctrine, by Naomi Klein....read all about Empire America and her wonderful history of "helping" other countries.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

Torture is a tool of the crudest kind of coercion, it crops up with great predictability whenever a local despot or a foreign occupier lacks the consent needed to rule. The United Stats engaged in such a takeover when its administrative policy deliberately misled thus ensuring that the attack and invasion of Iraq was a certainty. The widespread abuse of prisoners is virtually foolproof indication that politicians are trying to impose a system whether political, religious, or economic - that is rejected by large numbers of the people they are ruling.

As to Cheney's continued attempt to use fear to shield and shock ones ability to reason, I leave you with this quote I read in the "Shock Doctrine" from Carl Schmitt, a Nazi lawyer:

"Sovereign is he who decides the state of emergency."

"Cheney: Terrorists hate U.S. because of values we live by."

Or maybe...it's the torture! Now god forbid if these guys tortured our troops and civilians, they would be evil right?

BushCo. did it willingly. That makes them evil. And if Obama and Biden don't put a stop to these CRIMES, they're in the same boat at the other criminal.

What the hell happened to our country?


NOBODY 2012

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ricky's picture

La Dagen fa Sin Hvile Na OgNatten vil vake for den Nocturn Se morket mã Engang forga Sa natten kan fade en dag


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

glogrrl's picture

and you'll clean it up!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

ricky's picture

must resign in favor of Cheney and Newt.

My child will not be safe until it happens.

Just don't bring the Bush guy with you, this time fellas.
None to bright, that one.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

quarzacc's picture

Chenny is pure evil and wow talk about a short memory span. Do you really want to have national prayer again? Do you think that separation of church and state is possible under those two? Progression is not moving backwards its looking forwards.
President Obama hasn't even been in office a year, and you are listening to these old crusty wash ups? They had their chance and ran this country into the ground.
Didn't we vote them off the island? Why are we even listening to them? They are just pissed and throwing temper tantrums because they know they are wrong. Bulling is all they know. Let there mom change there diapers and move on.

Liberalicious's picture

But, there's such a thing as sarcasm, which is being used here.
It's best to study more than a few of a users comments before dropping the diaper bomb on them.

quarzacc's picture

but do people really want to bring back chenny and newt?

in the oval office?

Liberalicious's picture

when the aliens come in 2012 and invite humans to their home world "To Serve Man".

moonsha's picture

there is already a colony on Mars where aliens and humans coexist

Liberalicious's picture

a couple of bars here on earth that do the same thing.

He knew something about diapers. He had a chimp who was mean.
Wore diapers. Named Whiskey. The chimp, not grampa.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

Liberalicious's picture
?

A mean chimp that wore diapers named Whiskey......sounds a lot like a certain "President" we use to have.

ricky's picture

The mean chimp was named Whiskey. Gramps wore diapers.
The President was Protestant. Grampa was Catholic. He died in his sleep. It made us all sad, but Gramps said it was better than having the vet do it.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

Liberalicious's picture
So

You're saying our Veterans should put Bush to sleep?
Or have I had too much Whiskey?

of preferences, but I know the trailer they lived in was too small for closets. Not the trailers Bush gave Veterans after Katrina. I am sure they were nice if you don't mind dying in your sleep from too much breathing.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

Quick!! Someone throw on the lights and squash Cheney before he scurries under the fridge!!

Demons like Cheney- are like coach roaches when the light is turned on...........they will flee , they run for the safety and cover of the dark....(that is what they know) they use the dark to scare us, but once the light shines on them we see how powerless they really are.........
NOBODY believes the lies anymore-
The media still insist on treating us like we are idiots ...
The fact is we are all sick of their rhetoric.

One day at a time, inch by inch we will tear
down the walls of deception and lies and the truth will
surface....
You will be brought to justice...for what you have done you coach roach...........
Take note, everyone... those who defend the actions of this mob will also see nothing wrong with raiding your house, taking your property, and ending your life...
Torture is wrong.


LuLu

It must be awful hard to find enough of the right kind of makeup to hide those horns and that tail.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

to dock the tails or the horneriest of the male critters when they are still little. If you don't they get even meaner.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

glogrrl's picture

what happened to him.........


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6c3rAmYVg

Funny, I thought he was older than that

Inversus Dorian Grayae.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

CartoonCoyote's picture
...

It's CGI.

It sure is nice that Cheney brought the conversation back to torture and off of Pelosi. Thanks DICK.

I wonder if we can get Michael Steele to comment on this.

Oops Michael Steele said that Obama is releasing terrorists into the United States. Thanks for your input Michael. right now Lowrance O'Donnell is saying (On hardball) how STUPID Michael Steele is. Hehehehehehe

Citizens of the US must mobilize and march in protest of Cheney and the continued war.

If anyone knows of such movements starting, please get the word out.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

chainey has problems with his movements.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ricky's picture

Inaugural Day or the man size safe in his office? We know he values his privacy.


"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter

The intelligence community has said torture doesn't work, but Dick(head) Cheney says otherwise. So is Cheney saying the CIA and FBI are lying about torture not working!?!?

And Cheney failed to keep the U.S. safe after 2004 when they decided to stop using torture.

We listen to the torturer why?

This is like giving the Nazi party TV time during the Nuremburg trials.

Or say... Pol Pot saying "torture is good for Cambodia!"

My god. What have we become?


'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique

Did Cheney have anything to say about torturing these guys to make them say that al Qaeda and Iraq were linked? Funny how he left that part out isn't it? By torturing these guys to make them say that al Qaeda and Iraq were linked so Cheney would have a reason to invade Iraq DID NOT MAKE US SAFER!! It bankrupted us. It has almost destroyed our country. That is what torture did for us DICK.

Of course not, and the media has not asked Dick(head) about the alleged attempts to link Saddam and al-Qaida through torture, either.

miss_kitty's picture

prison

bonsai pajamas's picture

This just out: The "c-word," formerly c_nt, is now officially changed to Ch_ney. Please, exercise discretion when using the new "c-word."

carike's picture

Cheney, the Torturer, stop torturing the American people with his lies and insane ideas. I want to get past Bush/Cheney. I want to move on. I want that lying sack of sh to go away. If Americans wanted more of the Bush/Cheney crap we would have voted for McCain.

lewmanbubba's picture

Cheney says torture made us safe You say pictures and torture aid in recruitment of new terrorist. DO THE MATH you are ten years old AMERICA comes to you're country with shock and awe you loose both parents and half your brothers and sisters. You have lived on the street for eight years of occupation you are now eighteen and want revenge. pay back is a bitch

SJD's picture

who perceive the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians as being necessary and proper, the fact that the U.S. has tortured is such a silly non-issue.

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