The flying monkeys are waiting to descend on Obama and Jamie Gorelick
By David Neiwert Monday Nov 10, 2008 11:00am
I know everyone wants to take a breather after the election, but it's probably a good thing to remember that the wingnuts never rest.
Already, they're sharpening their knives should Obama select Jamie Gorelick as attorney general:
She has also drawn criticism for her role at the Justice Department, in which she allegedly created an intelligence “wall” that hindered counterterrorism agents in the years before the Sept. 11 attacks. Conservatives called for her removal from the Sept. 11 commission, but her fellow members rallied around her and said critics were distorting her record. The criticism grew so heated that the F.B.I. investigated a death threat against her family, and President Bush had to intervene personally to stop the Justice Department from releasing sealed reports involving her. Some conservative bloggers have already begun trying to derail Ms. Gorelick’s possible nomination as attorney general, pointing to her experiences at both Fannie Mae and the Sept. 11 commission.
What CNN reported at the time:
"I can confirm that I've received threats at my office and my home," she told CNN on Saturday. "I did get a bomb threat to my home."
She added, "I have gotten a lot of very vile e-mails. The bomb threat was by phone."
ABC News first reported the story Saturday.
The threats were "scary," she said, but added that she was "not intimidated enough to resign from the commission."
All this occurred after then-Attorney General John Ashcroft accused Gorelick of authoring a memo that he and other conservatives blamed for creating a bureaucratic "wall" that they said caused the intelligence failures leading to 9/11 (a dubious claim at best, considering that Ashcroft had previously testified elsewhere that this "wall" had existed since the 1980s).
The conservative noise machine leapt into action -- most notably Rush Limbaugh, who claimed that "Gorelick really ran the place while Janet Reno was the face of the Justice Department" and that she "erected a wall and because the Clinton administration determined that they were gonna fight terrorism not as a war but as a legal matter."
As you can see from the video, Bill O'Reilly also chimed in on Fox. Right-wing operative Dick Morris also said on Fox News: "Of ALL of the public officials in the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, the ONE who is MOST directly responsible, in my judgment, for 9/11 happening, is Jamie Gorelick."
Expect an encore.
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joining Obama's Administration. He keeps this up, he gives Bill and Hillary that defacto third term they were after.
I don't really care if they worked with the Clintons previously.
Aren't there bigger problems that we gotta deal with. Like...say the economy.
a problem...and I am a Dem...she would be a disaster...
This is a critical time folks. Petty differences won't help tackle the shit pool we're in. This guy needs the best people....period.
look at how Obama ran his campaign...like a friggin well oiled machine.
I am aware that campaigns and presidentin' are two completely different animals, but I am 100% confident that Obama knows full well what is at stake here, and will do a damn fine job of picking his cabinet...and the more the reichwingers piss and moan, the more of an indication it is that Obama is doing a good job.
Try to remember, though, that while the news media is covering the one or two potential appointees who worked for the Clinton administration, Obama's administration--like any other administration before it--is going to be huge.
Secondly, Barack Obama himself is something of a force of nature, perpetually calm and collected. Don't you think that his will shall be what determines where the ship sails, regardless of who happens to be in the engine room?
Thirdly, it's not really a Clinton administration if you don't have the Clintons. Frankly, I would love to see Obama appoint Gore as some sort of Environment Baron and Hillary Clinton as Health Baron (I'm not sure what the titles are in the US). Regardless, my point's simple: if they do a good job, they do a good job. And that is what matters most.
She doesn't want Universal healthcare with the gov't as a 'single payer.' She's all about enriching her constituency, the big insurance companies.
She'd make an excellent whip, IMHO. But I don't think that's the pres's choice to make. Keep her Democratic arse in the Senate.
Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency
Secretary of Health and Human Services
It's fine to bring in some newcomers, but the Obama Administration is going to need people with former White House and executive branch experience in order to function in Washington - and that means people from the Clinton Administration, for the Carter people are now, after 28 years, mostly geriatrics. Regardless of what one thinks of the Clintons, they definitely surrounded themselves with very intelligent, highly competent people.
There are far worse alternatives to an Administration of former Clintonites: the next Republican President will have to staff their Administration from the Bush 'talent' pool. Yeecchhh!
additionally, Obama is the president.
it was never the clinton staff that was the issue.
Monkeys flying on something:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfmQ6w7RW7k
The video's file size is 1.2kb so I don't think that's going to work out
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Sorry about that, all. I think they should work now.
Jamie Gorelick? YEECCCCHHH....
Does Tipper know?
These wingnut fucktards ain't never gonna be happy with whoever Obama picks for any position....may I suggest, since that is the case, that Obama make picks that will absolutely make their fat heads explode.
These wingnut fucktards ain't never gonna be happy with whoever Obama picks for any position....may I suggest, since that is the case, that Obama make picks that will absolutely make their fat heads explode.
yep. Might as well.
"the ONE who is MOST directly responsible, in my judgment, for 9/11 happening"
REALLY? After all this time, someone finally got to the root cause of 9/11, at least as far as elected officials go. Did Dick know about this for a while, and he's been holding out on us, or did he just have a moment of clarity and this answer appeared to him in a vision?
Enquiring minds want to know...
My mind is more Weekly World News.
BatBoy IS real!
Duh...Duh...Duh...Duh...DUH...
BATBOY!!!
WHAM...POW...SPLORCH
At least we'll always have Stephen Colbert to uncover such shocking stories...
the mantra of fear first!
SOP for repugs.
nothing to see here!
O'Reilly is certainly all knowing on the justice system. He's been an active participant for years.
I wasn't aware Dick (suck my toes) Morris had any judgment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qHaIO0LU38
Who are these people? I never watch fox.
You are wised up.
Obama just announced a major new appointment to his administration:
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/
That gave me a much needed chuckle, thanks!
Waddya bet it'll be Dennis Kucinich?
Don't mess with the Kooooch!
Obama should be so lucky, to have that man in his cabinet.
Kucinich is a true patriot.
Where would Obama put Elizabeth?
Just like Hannity and O'Reilly, who will never give Obama a chance, criticizing the guy's decisions before he takes office without allowing his appointments to perform, is quite telling.
These morons will never give up! They have got to be the most paranoid, hate mongering losers I've ever seen! They will never be satified until the middle class is destroyed and we are in World War III. What a sad existence.
That's the thing about morons. They're sure they're right and no, they never give up.
And that's why the Dems have to be vigilant and careful at all times. Even with a majority and a mandate.
It's like living with an elderly pet that gets confused. Be nice, be kind, but be careful because Ol' Duke doesn't see the way he used to and he might just try and take a bite out of you at any moment.
I understand in South Carolina schools, they're not allowing students to talk about the election at all, including the aftermath, even just among themselves.
Can you imagine? What kind of education are these kids getting? I bet Darwin's Theory is akin to myth to these whack-jobs.
They don't have sex education classes to even discuss whack-jobs.
Isn't that a violation of the 1st amendment?
Only if you cite freedom of speech and are deaf.
Isn't that in a piece of paper somewhere? The paper that The Thugs lined thier loony bird cages with?
I saw on 60 Minutes a clip of Obama where he said that Rev. Wright made the mistake of thinking that the country remained static from the time he was young until today, static enough that an African American could never win the presidency. Another statement that made me think was that a Democratic analyst said that the Republicans ran out of ideas for fixing problems the country is facing now. I know that these are coming from an odd direction, and maybe people won't see how the two statements are related, but I think people need to start thinking of the Republicans in the light of both statements. Don't get so caught up in this historic win that you think the Republicans are going to remain the Party of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, a Party that a majority of people will detest. The Republican Party will not remain static. They will keep working. Those who voted in GWB will still have a tendency to not trust "liberals". We have to prove ourselves. One other thing: We need to stop gloating. There are voters who will be turned off if they sense that the Democrats are gloating and taking advantage of their majorities in the House and Senate.
that there are hundreds of lawyers and judges more qualified to be A.G. than Gorelick.
She's way too much a pol to be an even-handed, capable A.G.
clean
and trust me, liberty university grads will not be getting jobs with her
First-rate trial lawyer.
Appears to be honest.
Knows his way around.
Things are never static
Mon, 11/10/2008 - 10:37 — appnzllr
They will be if you don't go Hi-Def.
No, we don't.
And on the topic of television personalities and the things they say...
Will we be delving into the Scarborough lip slip? :D
Too funny.
Here's the Youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJUwn6eSNo
When good Ole Joe said the f-bomb. At first I didn't think I heard correctly. Ha ha. Isn't Joe supposed to be one of the so-called Religious Right? Give me a break. Hopefully he will be fired.
...with him. Joe "how did this dead bitch get under my bed?" Scarborough should be immediately fired.
As funny as it is I'd hate to think anyone would be fired for accidentally saying a single 'swear' word on air. :D
And it certainly was funny. Especially all the apologizing. You could practically hear him thinking "oh god don't fire me!" lol!
which means, he must talk that way alot
nice christian
karel from kgo just got fired for blurting a few words when he thought his mike was dead
joe needs a spanking
I'm sure Pissed Off Patricia would oblige him.
But then she might have to consider the amputation of her hand.
This career jerk consistently dominates and tries to steer any argument(witness leading) to fit his bullshit opinions. It is painfully uncomfortable viewing this nasty man interviewing(manipulating,cutting off) anyone.
... is that it is abundantly clear O'Reilly has zero credibility as far as journalistic chops. None. Inside Edition was a tabloid magazine show. It used to offend me that it followed our newscast (we also had 'A Current Affair' on our air at one time).
But put O'Reilly on his soapbox, repeal the Fairness Doctrine, and the media suddenly bends over backwards to answer this man's 'questions' and treat him like he's got even an ounce of integrity.
but either way...i hope everyone notices what obama is doing, and what is really causing the racist wingnuts heads to explode
not since the civil rights movement have we watched the growth of a black/jewish coalition
you will see the racists really come out of the woodwork now
She's hated by O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Morris and Ashcroft. Okay, so now what's the DOWNSIDE of Gorelick?
For those who don't trust corporate stooges, Gorelick wasn't just a Clintonite - she was, and is, the epitome of what was so wrong with the corporate controlled DLC.
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R E M E M B E R:
FOXPRAVDA is "Fair(ly) (im)ballanced" and Bill is not an O'Liely...
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I was so sure 9/11 happened on Bush's watch!
The last time I took a breather, the police told me not to do it over the phone.
David Iglasias? (prob. spelled it wrong)
Iglesias would be a decent choice, however, he'd have to recuse himself if investigating the firings by Kyle Sampson/Monica Goodling/Alberto Gonzales, as he was one of the eight.
I don't know much about Jamie Gorelick, but if Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly hate her, I am all for her. I don't think you can go wrong doing the exact opposite of what Rush and Bill think is the right thing to do.
How about this guy for the DOJ?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7203/162...
The Clinton administration begged the incoming cartel to keep their eyes on the terror threat.They couldn't have made it any more clear.
Of course Bush and his little pals ignored all of this completely.
With that in mind,how would it be if Obama began making the most controversial and(to Conservatives)annoying appointments conceivable,just to signal that THEY THEMSELVES will now be completely marginalized and utterly ignored?Drag everything down to the same petty vindictive and inherently dishonest level these Bugs have operated on for the last 8 years?
"Of ALL of the public officials in the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, the ONE who is MOST directly responsible, in my judgment, for 9/11 happening, is Jamie Gorelick."
Because she went fishing after reading the PDB that said "Bin Laden determined to attack in the US," right?
Fergit flying monkeys, here's more my speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutxFgxTshM
Swiftboating Cindy Sheehan? What does this have to do with her?
No, I'm not going to watch the video.
What a waste of bandwidth. If O'riely is against it, I am for it.
Why is he still on the air? Oh yea the election was only last week.
liberalNmoderation:
I have personally favored DK as the most refreshingly Liberal and Progressive candidate around, including even the much-needed 3rd party alternatives, such as Ralph Nader.
I had lost all interest in the current electoral farce ever since Kucinich was "dumped" by the MSM and the RNC/DNC Duopoly, and denied even the fundamental right to participate in the primary debates (interestingly, in most post-debate pools, DK was usually far ahead of the rehearsed party mouthpieces- and it was almost a routine event to observe the MSMs close down the polls after only a few minutes).
Of course, I realize that it is a greatly imperfect world, and the most decent, humane and capable are for the most part, not running the show in this world. No wonder, humanity's problems never seem to be solved for the long run.
I attended a Peace Forum in support of DK in early 2004 at Eastern Michigan U., and met several prominent peace activists. Subsequently, I have heard DK (and Elizabeth) speak passionately about human rights, peace and the environment.
BO, who has proven to be extraordinarily bright, and run an outstanding campaign, and thereby created history for this country- still is not a symbol of the pro-Peace, pro-human-rights, pro-humanity candidate one could dream of. Obviously, his election has created unprecedented excitement across the world. After the obscene Bushco years- the world is ready for change.
Wasn't this so called "wall" an outgrowth of the Church Commission Hearings designed to prevent collusion between the agencies? For instance perhaps with the "wall" still in place the FBI could have arrested the CIA and Pentagon agents involved with forged documentation that lead to the illegal invasion of Iraq? Or maybe I'm getting why it was created wrong?
You have it just about right. It should be noted, though, that the root of the 9/11 intelligence problem wasn't the Church Committee reforms (though the intelligence agencies would like you to think that) but rather the bureaucratization of the CIA and NSA that occurred under Reagan in the 1980s, which effectively dismantled their on-the-ground info-gathering programs and concentrated their work in D.C. Even neocon spooks like Reuel Marc Gerecht admit this is the case.
If they hate her, then that's exactly who I want as the AG. Too bad it wasn't Edwards.
If you keep picking at Bill O'Reilly, he's never gonna heal.
I thought he already was a heel.
If I were President-Elect, I'd try hitting them on a blind side and select for my AG Elizabeth De La Vega. She's my choice. Just think, the reich-wing will beg for Gorelick if De La Vega is nominated.
She is a corporate tool bought and paid for by the telecoms - especially Verizon. Check out some of Glenn Greenwald's columns detailing her push for telecom immunity.
Jamie Gorelick is one of the tools Corporate America hopes to use to control this administration.
ThinkProgress debunked the "Gorelick Wall" myth over three years ago:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorel...
But since when does that stop the Right from going into hysterics?
PS: May I be the first to nominate Dennis (Kucinich) for AG? :)
Please see my post earlier in this thread.
With DK as AG- all the Bushco criminals will run helter-skelter for fear of criminal indictment (for perfectly valid reasons), finally, in response to their numerous crimes, and IMPEACHMENT would be retroactively applied to restore meaning, value and honor to Constitutional government.
I know that because Ashcroft has credibility.
(snark off)
Oh flying monkey farts...
Flying out me arse.
If the clowns hate Jamie Gorelick then Jamie Gorelick must be awesome. Higher Jamie Gorlick!
I don't really have an opinion on Jamie Gorelick. I'll be reading up on her now. But I do know what scapegoating is, and as far as I can see it Bush and Ashcroft were in power when the towers came down and it was his Aug 2001 PDB that was never acted upon.
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