To get the inside-conspiracy scoop on the swine flu, Stewart gets the lowdown from 'Some Guy'
By David Neiwert Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 4:15pm
Last night on The Daily Show, Jon Stewart got the official word in the origins of the swine-flu outbreak from John Oliver, reporting from the Centers For Disease Control, and Jason Jones, reporting from the Centers For Stuff I Heard From Some Guy:
Stewart: What have you been hearing at your center?
Jones: All kinds of things. OK, A: This disease was engineered by the government as an excuse to declare martial law, so that B: They can liquidate private health-insurance coverage.
Stewart: Yeah, that sounds a little farfetched there, Jason.
Jones: Well, then why is the government hoarding all the Tamiflu for themselves, their families, and disgraced Wall Street tycoons?
Stewart: Where did you hear that?
Jones: [pause] ... Some guy.
Stewart: Do you have a second source?
Jones: What, you mean another guy?
Oliver: Jon, Jon, Jon! You know this is preposterous. This is a naturally occurring mutation that has so far traveled a pathogenic route --
Jones: Can it, Science Boy! While you babble, Americans are being infected by the millions!
Oliver: Not true --
Jones: The entire state of Arizona is dead!
The problem that Daily Show writers must face each day is that their routines often mimic the real behavior of the wingnuts on the right.
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DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!……………
The entire state of Arizona is dead!
Let's panic and overreact! Oooh, yes, what fun!
They used that same trick here in Alabama when the doctors boys used thermite to burn down several million dollars worth of churches
They found a cow with "Madcow" a few days of reporting on the madcow (which they did nothing about) and all was forgotten about the doctors boy and the millions of dollars of churches
It works every time
A day that the video and audio works on this site would be like a day without orange juice.
When your government habitually lies to you to whip up fear, and denies it, and habitually denies any wrong-doing, it's a recipe for disaster when normalcy is required.
I think this is another 'scare them half to death' scams to quiet the everyone about TORTURE!!! Nazism re-dux. The rest of the world weeps, the US of BLOODYISRAEL behind the IRON CURTAIN of blanked-out silence spoken to only by Der Fuhrer, Cheney true propaganda channels.
Suffice it to say, I trust little I hear from "the authorities" or on the teevee. I can't think of any reason I should believe them. Can you?
"Some guy" has started posting here.
but 'Some Guy' has been posting on the internet since day 1, as well as posting on nearly every web site that is on the internet.
'Some Guy' has posted at C&L since the beginning, I'm sure.
:D
a point.
HEY Peter G
No more cover up commissions!
Otherwise Speculations and "Conspiracy theories" will rise.
Has the CIA Really changed?
Are the NEOCONS Criminals in Jail?
Were the anthrax attacks ever clarified?
9-11?
Forget the flu. People hve other things on their mind:
http://www.askbutwhy.com/2009/04/popeyes-ster...
Obama took the right tack, saying it was a cause for concern, NOT panic. But the 24-hour news cycle folks at Faux News, CNN and MSNBC have nothing better to do than to fan the flames of fear. Fortunately, Jon Stewart & Co. do a very good job of depicting this with humor. Over at Salon, there's a story about the 1976 swine flu scare. Once again, it was predicted to be a pandemic that wasn't. Aren't the cable news folks capable of giving ANY perspective on this? Geez!!
You jest, of course. I thought it was part of the contract that you sign when you become a talking head to lose all perspective.
a physician and congressman at the time, the swine flu killed one American. The swine flu vaccine killed about 28 Americans. Go Big Pharma!
In other news, a report has recently come out that the cause of the great mortality caused by the 1918-1922 "Spanish" flu epidemic wasn't the flu bug; it was underlying tuberculosis, which was fatally exacerbated by the illness.
Meanwhile, any excuse for our ever-responsible MSM to scream "Boo!" 24/7 must be used; after all, it's their airwaves, right?
Guillain-Barre syndrome in hundreds of others. Most of the deaths were of senior citizens and may have been mis-attributed to the vaccine. The rest of your comment is purest nonsense. It had nothing whatsoever to do with tuberculosis and I invite you to provide any scientific evidence for that absurd statement. The government at the time rightly feared a repetition of the Spanish flu epidemic which would have cost millions of lives. The chance of a serious adverse reaction to the vaccine was about one in a million and the chance of dying of influenza if it is as virulent as the 1918 strain is about 3 in a hundred. They did the right thing.
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Why don't you go to the CDC and see if they'll expose you to it?
Seriously, though, I think I know what you're referring to, and it's weak. The hypothesis is based on the decline of the rate of TB cases after the pandemic. But it's just that- a hypothesis. There's no proof that TB was the cause of death, or that the influenza virus triggered latent cases of TB to become active.
"In September2000, Noymer and Garenne published a study that poses an ætiologicaltheory explaining the unusual W-shaped mortality age profile of the virus. This profile is characterized by a modein the 25–34-year age group. Usually, influenza has a U-shaped profile, being most deadly to the young and the old. Additionally, after the pandemic the difference in life expectancybetween men and women decreased (women had a historically longer life expectancy). Noymer and Garenne have causally linked these two anomalies to an interaction with tuberculosis. They point out that it is a predominantly male disease and that it is a disease of young adulthood rather than old age." From http://www.lumrix.net/medical/pandemics/spani...
Don't apologize, Peter, just screw your monocle back in.
As for what Ron Paul said, Andy, I didn't ask him. But thanks for the hostility and your obvious expertise.
Some of us were alive and remember what happened back then.
What you don't mention is whether Paul noted that the Ford administration, only 8 years removed from the Hong Kong Flu Pandemic of 1968, was acting on that one death and the few non-lethal cases that had spread to those who had contact with the deceased. Did Paul note the disparity between the number of people affected at the outset of the '76 overreaction and the 68 lethal cases in Mexico, with thousands of others who have been affected at the present time?
Swine Flu Quarantines
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/04/28/polit...
Now, THAT IS something to scare the you know what out of me!
No need to pack a suitcase: you won't need it in the camps.
I was laughing so hard because it was so spot on. I feel like people think we are experiencing the real life version of Outbreak.
I don't mean to be completely jaded here, but wasn't it just like two or three years ago that many "important people" were saying that SARS was going to kill us all?
That is only because EXTERMINATION is exactly what the MAFIA that didn't really leave the WH, had in mind. It's their heart-felt wish, desire, their wet-dream. Then no one would talk TORTURE!!!, nor FINANCIAL MELTDOWN that the profiteers can play in, nor WALLSTREETBANKSTERS. See, it's a great distraction from substance, and it is their projection of the new world order.
When they find my swine-flu corpse, I might admit I was wrong.
holding out for SARS. I can only handle one hysterical non-pandemic in a lifetime.
Remember Y2K? It was going to be the end of civilization.
The end of life as we knew it would happen, and Jesus would come back. Yeah, I'm still waiting for the Jesus part and the end of the world part.
However, I'm certain that in 2012, time itself will unravel because the Mayan calendar doesn't go beyond that year. ;)
Yeah Edwin that was when I stopped believing anything Helen Coldacot(sp) said. She was saying that the nukes in Russia were going to GO OFF!! And she was adamant about it. What a way to lose credibility. You have to careful when your predictions will be confirmed so fast.
it nearly was. it was the bush presidency.
in the use of a respiratory protection mask, which may be used for protection from the possible infection of the swine flu Monday, April 27, 2009, in Oakland, Calif.
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090427/capt.bb79ed...
Nothing about torture in the news today? Funny? Who would have guessed?
We're all wingnuts on the crazy bus.
The government is spreading swine flu around so that they can declare martial law and methodically go house to house and take away peoples guns. Republicans, be afraid, very afraid. ;-)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - What's in a name? U.S. pork producers are finding that the name of the virus spreading from Mexico is affecting their business, prompting U.S. officials to argue for changing the name from swine flu.
At a news briefing, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack took pains to repeatedly refer to the flu as the "H1N1 virus."
"This is not a food-borne illness, virus. It is not correct to refer to it as swine flu because really that's not what this is about," Vilsack said.
Israel has already rejected the name swine flu, and opted to call it "Mexico flu." Jewish dietary laws forbid eating pork.
Isn't that why they call that chicken flu now, the "bird flu"? ;-)
Funny piece.
Fer sure. My friend already got a cell phone alert: "Don't talk to Mexicans."
(Even though I live in Korea... racists are everywhere.)
Will the fact that it looks like the swine flu originated in Mexico be used by right-wingers to whip up more racist, anti-immigrant hysteria?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_sty...
“Attention has so far focused on a pig farm named Granjas Carroll de México, which is a 50 per cent owned subsidiary of Smithfield Foods, based in the US state of Virginia. ”
All that the machine has to do is find an idiot to justify the New Democrats' open borders campaign. I remember Christine Batista on CNN Live. She had bat sonar for finding an idiot in the audience to interview. So you can cherry pick a 2 digit IQ moron to make any point that you can use as a strawman. I used to call Ms. Batista Madam Filter. CNN does good work in finding "conservative" idiots. But truth is we don't really have a truly independent left or right any more. They are all programmed to destroy the nation.
... it hasn't been already?
Everybody who listens to Alex Jones knows that the birdpigman flu was created by the shapeshifting reptoid aliens and the clone army of Obamas in the ultra-secure transdimensional biowarfare labs cleverly hidden miles below Bohemian Grove. Oh, and something something thermite.
I thought they were cleverly hidden between the eye and the pyramid on the dollar bill. That's where Janeane Garofalo has said she does her evil plotting.
I thought fer sure the greys had something to do with this!
the Ninja Turtles...no wait that's just silly...call the X-Men! Yeah that's more like it...
It makes zombies, too, right? I'm pretty sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edIkmpouCtA
Our Leaders find it ever so useful.
Michele Bachmann Links Swine Flu To Democrats, Gets History Wrong
The Republicans are now ridden with these nutjobs like Bachmann and Jean Schmidt, and on and on. And Fox News and Limbaugh set the agenda.
For god's sakes! Who the hell can defend this woman? Come on!
I have been accused of being a wingnut and a moonbat. First of all I do believe that 9-11 was an inside job. Secondly I believe my government is run by criminals who are capable of everything from murder to pedophilia. As for the flu epidemic warning, perhaps this was a dry run. Anyone who has studied the CIA and the shenanigans from Fort Dietrich, Maryland would know the potpourri of toxic biologicals, and chemicals that the criminal government has at its disposal. Just read the Church report. Any archive of leftist, progressive magazines should have articles on CIA missions in Cuba that included infecting swine and mosquitoes with virulent microbes. Look up Kissinger's statements on population control and reduction. Look up the Church investigation on the CIA. This stuff is documented.
... to look it up. They will say, it's ancient history or, more accurately, ancient mythology. Now that that nice Mr Obama is running the show, the gov't has been made benign and competent. btw, you really didn't mean to write "my government" did you?
No, I didn't mean to write "my government". I'd hate to own some monster like that. Yep, one gang of politicians builds part of the wall that the other couldn't during their term in office. Obama is all mobbed up with CFR, and Bildebergers. It's as if Baby Bush was still in office.
And I thought the crazies were out in full force on Twitter.
Seems about right- the typical cool, calm, collected American response to just about anything.
..I can name a second source for "some guy". Naomi Klein mentioned the Tamiflu thing in her "Shock Doctrine" book.
Donald Rumsfeld apparently has the authoritay to dole out the drug as he sees fit.
Just what I read, is all..
Stay away from the poleeeece.
So what is the conspiracy theory here. some biohazardous flu bug was released in Mexico to get rid of the drug criminals.
The "radical right" believes in strong immune systems, in preventive health and they don't believe in government propaganda.
The flu killed 56,000 Americans in 2006! PANIC!
Donald "Aspartame" Rumsfeld made millions from Tamiflu -
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp
1971 CIA used Swine Fever Virus (not Swine Flu) in an anti-Castro operation which resulted in the slaughtered of 500,000 pigs.
1977 an article by John Cummings entitled CUBAN OUTBREAK OF SWINE FEVER LINKED TO CIA was carried by every national newspaper in the US -
http://books.google.com/books?id=aLyWOYcC3zAC&pg=PA72&lpg=PA72&dq
Gee, I wonder why people believe stupid conspiracy theories!
And guess who was Secretary of Defense in 1976 with this government-funded commercial telling you to get the Swine Flu Shot or else was aired?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3YCTnbRgm8
Why it was Donald Rumsfeld, who would go on to be Chairman of Gilead, the inventor of Tamiflu.
But before that, he illegally got aspartame approved by the FDA and got a $12 million bonus as Chairman of Searle, the inventor of aspartame -- now known worldwide as the "Rumsfeld disease".
And this guy lied us in to war and sanctioned torture. Is it any wonder that people are skeptical of Tamilfu and all this false panic?
THINK -- someone benefits...
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