Hannity shakes his head at C&L, 'liberal attack machine' for pointing out the ignorance of Specter teabagger
By David Neiwert Tuesday Aug 18, 2009 5:00am
Sean Hannity was evidently distraught about Logan's post last Thursday about the teabagging Glenn Beck fan Katy Abram, who showed up at Arlen Specter's health-care town hall to spout Glenn Beckian nonsense. Logan remarked:
Granted, Abram isn't a professional pundit, but when questioned it became clear that she is the poster child for the entire undereducated, under-informed mob that make up the right wing town hall protesters.
Hannity gulps at this:
Hannity: Lovely. I guess the tone in Washington has really changed.
Of course, it hasn't. It hasn't because Sean Hannity and his Fox compatriots -- particularly Beck, who has even characterized President Obama as an anti-white racist -- as well as the Limbaugh-Coulter sector have seen to that.
But of course, on Planet Wingnuttia, it's been the liberals who are mean and nasty:
Hannity: Now what do you make of -- now we've watched all these politicians attacked. We've seen how Gov. Palin was treated, we saw how George W. Bush was treated. This is the first time, though, American citizens are being attacked by a party. Are you part of a mob? Are you a political terrorist? Do you like Tim McVeigh? Uh, any sympathies toward the Nazi Party?
Abram: No! [giggles]
Hannity: No racist views in your life?
Abram: No.
Hannity: No. What do you think when prominent Democrats have been making these charges?
Abram: I think it's ridiculous. I have heard Nancy Pelosi say, you know, we're a mob, swastikas, and all that stuff. I'm sorry. I'm a stay-at-home mom. I take care of my kids. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And you've got these people that are in charge of the country calling the people of this country ... awful names. Awful names! I mean, my original question to Arlen Specter was going to be, "I want you to denounce what Nancy Pelosi has said about the people of this country. It's ridiculous! It's ridiculous!
Yep, that's what we mean when we say "undereducated and under-informed." Pelosi didn't "call the people of this country" Nazis; she called out the morons who bring signs with swastikas -- comparing Obama to Hitler, as has been done frequently by prominent figures on the right in recent weeks, from Beck to Limbaugh. You know, awful names!
Of course, you can go back and look at what she said on Donnell's show for more evidence of this kind of blithering idiocy:
...You know, yeah, I mean, there are programs in place that the founders did not want to have here. I know there are people out there that can't afford health insurance, that can't afford a lot of different things, and, you know, with the founders, they thought and hoped that the goodness of the people would allow the people to take care of those who are doing without. And I know that may seem naive in today's, you know, world...
Ouch. My head hurts. Another wingnut who has read Glenn Beck but hasn't read Thomas Paine.
The real Thomas Paine -- one of those "founders" Abrams revered -- actually argued for a system of "socialism" in which citizens shared their wealth. This could be found most clearly in the essay :
Nothing could be more unjust than agrarian law in a country improved by cultivation; for though every man, as an inhabitant of the earth, is a joint proprietor of it in its natural state, it does not follow that he is a joint proprietor of cultivated earth. The additional value made by cultivation, after the system was admitted, became the property of those who did it, or who inherited it from them, or who purchased it. It had originally no owner. While, therefore, I advocate the right, and interest myself in the hard case of all those who have been thrown out of their natural inheritance by the introduction of the system of landed property, I equally defend the right of the possessor to the part which is his.
Cultivation is at least one of the greatest natural improvements ever made by human invention. It has given to created earth a tenfold value. But the landed monopoly that began with it has produced the greatest evil. It has dispossessed more than half the inhabitants of every nation of their natural inheritance, without providing for them, as ought to have been done, an indemnification for that loss, and has thereby created a species of poverty and wretchedness that did not exist before.
In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity, that I am pleading for. But it is that kind of right which, being neglected at first, could not be brought forward afterwards till heaven had opened the way by a revolution in the system of government. Let us then do honor to revolutions by justice, and give currency to their principles by blessings.
Having thus in a few words, opened the merits of the case, I shall now proceed to the plan I have to propose, which is,
To create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property:
And also, the sum of ten pounds per annum, during life, to every person now living, of the age of fifty years, and to all others as they shall arrive at that age.
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How many protesters brought guns during the Bush regime?
..elsewhere this morning. One guy had a carry permit with a pistol in a park where w was jogging and he was detained by the secret service. Another fellow had issues and a gun and he was outside of the white house when he fired. The secret service wounded him in the knee. w was working out in the residence and was not in danger.
if it would be constitutional to restrict firearm possession within a certain distance of the President, much like airspace is restricted near the President. Turley replied that it was uncertain, possibly complicated by recent SC decision regarding Second Amendment.
Did he think he was in Baghdad?
But I am sure some investigation would turn up her ties to either the Republican Party or a fringe group. Why else would a "stay-at-home mom" leave her kids to go to one of these town hall meetings? Either that, or she's not the dedicated "stay-at-home mom" she says she is. It's summer, when kids need supervision more than ever. I'd bet someone put her up to this and would like to see the media delve into her background. Is she really a GOP committeewoman, for instance?
It has already been discovered that Abrams was a local member of the Republican Party and one of Beck's 912ers.
David, the entertainers on Fuchs knows Abrams is a nut and underinformed on the hc issue, but she is another opportunity they will use to oppose anything coming out of the Obama Administration.
uninformed, and dishonest people to champion their cause....it can only help ours.
stfu you no-necked bastard!
This woman does more damage to herself the more she gets out there and talks.
" I'm a stay-at-home mom. I take care of my kids. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing."
Really? Who sold her on this doing what she is SUPPOSED to be doing? Just another submissive to her man wingnut.
Now fry me some hawg! };)>
Cuz the bible told her so!
Jebus didn't take none too kindly to that ERA mess!
Wimmins is fer cookin, cleanin, lookin purty, and makin babies!
Can i git me a yeeeehaw?
what a wonnerful way to say our credit is maxed.
...and unwittingly set up as a target for the evil Libruls.
Hannity and his cronies know how to play the game. Unfortunately, people without any ethics often make far more effective players.
Isn't this twice now that she has been on Faux News? Gosh they really did put her on the payroll. Quit batting your eyes at him honey...I hear he doesn't swing that way.
That's because she's prettier than Joe the Plumber.
Katy the Stay-at-home-mom who is really just another Republican plant.
she's had her 15 mins right? the new joe the plummer...
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A new, freshly minted female Joe the Plumber media whore. Maybe she should go home and take care of her kids?
You don't understand, she's only supposed to give the impression of a working person, not do actual work. That's for the little people!
besides, she has a team of illegal immigrants to look after her kids!
A group of illegal aliens that she absolutely abhors because they are ruining our country and that's not what the Constitution wrote!
but think of the SAVINGS!
if the economy is so bad, American workers will be so desperate to except slave wages...
the true dream of a cheap labor conservative.
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2003/08/cheaplabor_cons.html
that's them in a nutshell alright.
on a thread long ago, the joys of American imperialism in Iraq and Iraqi servants catering to your every whim.
because she doesn't believe in them.
That was 7 minutes of sweeping generalities and bait switching. No substance, no specifics, this is how Faux noise pulls in naive and under-informed folks like Ms Abrams.
Good vibes to C&L for being noticed by Faux, tonight O'Reilly will rail against C&Lers. By tomorrow morning we will be inundated by Trolls......but on the bright side those nasty l'il Trolls will not last longer than a day or two.........I hope that Abrams visits C&L...she can be turned from the dark side.
I like trolls. I want to keep them as pets. They're so cute.
morning...not very cute, or bright for that matter.
But...credit where credit is due...he can sure parrot those right wing talking points like a fuckin PRO!
Obama make sun go way!!!
now what we do?
in dark.
When Joe comes around with his plumber's snake and unclogs Sean's clogged pipes.
Rats can be trained.
don't bet on it -- Sean doesn't stray far from his gated community
n/t
You bumping into him, that is.
This is another example of the dumb leading the dumb on the teevee.
... reads C&L. And here you are making veiled threats against Sean Hannity. Leave the thuggery to the thugs/trolls, please.
Those of you making threats are just feeding the right more crap to use.
but it would be fun to catch l'il Sean off guard and chase him down the street for old times sake.
veils. Make it hard for the stupid to grasp them. YS is corrupting me.
come here.
They look at the pictures you mean.
Hannity, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, you nazi fuck!
How's your bff Hal Turner doin in jail? Ya send him soap on a rope?
Proving Hannity correct in just about every way.
As is referring to a married woman as a teabagger.
Classy.
Who was it again who coined the term for their protests? Who PROMOTED it using the term 'teabag party'?
Right. It's FOX. Not some liberal conspiracy to make y'all look stupid.
Still....
He used "Hammity" and "correct" in the same sentence...
The Shining
The insults around here are counter productive, but there's no reason a married woman can't teabag in a healthy relationship.
Proving that hannity is correct in just about every way, would take a god damned miracle!
Take your concern troll BULLSHIT and shove it up thine own arse.
Everyone here knows what you are, you are fooling NO ONE but yourself.
You're killing me with your kindness, libNmod. I'm emailing Sean right now and telling him how far off base he was with that report last night. He's got you all wrong. He just doesn't know you, that's all.
Somehow, you having hannity's email addy isn't one bit surprising.
please let him know that beyond his opinions a monkey could do his job. It takes no training, skill or insight to carry water.
..does not an opinion make. So, a monkey could do his job and probably better.
Sean's days as the Faux male bimbo are numbered, Glenn is fast rising up through the ranks to the #1 spot.
It just remains to be seen what Sean can do to retain his job at Faux.
I think the wingnuts have found their newest media darling. Watch out, because before long we're going to have "Palin/Abrams 2012" shoved down our throats (gag!). Can you imagine those two in debates? Man, it would be surreal!
They could interview each other on Faux.
You betcha;
[giggles];
I can see Russia from my house;
[giggles];
Aren't turkeys cute and fluffy;
[giggles];
I quit being governor because I am not a quitter;
[giggles];
Hannity is an interviewer on par with Mary Hart.
That's insulting to Mary Hart. At least she had nice legs to look at.
Abrams is obviously what is referred to as a "low information voter".
I believe she's also referred to as a "Real American" or a "hard-working white."
Awesome! Then hopefully you'll get this message:
FUCK YOU!
And here's hoping your advertisers drop off as quickly as your buddy glenn beck's.
Read? Well, for starters, you don't have to READ Glenn Beck, all you have to do is turn on the boob tube. I doubt if Katy Abram has read anything more complex than a recipe since they MADE her read all that liberal propaganda in high school. I'd be surprised if she ever even heard of Thomas Paine. I'd also be surprised if she could name more than two or three of the "founders." Just like all those christians who can't name the 10 Commandments.
Yes, you "saw how George W. Bush was treated" -- at least the public waited until he'd f&#^%^@ up really badly before he was ruined.
what she wanted for her children. I swear to God she almost said "fair, affordable healthcare". But that's asking too much of a fake. Stop and think Katy, the correct answer is not wanting her children saddled with debt. That's the talking point.
The wingnut approach is to double our healthcare expense through the private system. That way the money keeps pouring into the pockets of your politicians and corporate sponsors, but it will do nothing to make healthcare more affordable for her children.
But who cares as long as we're not Russia for God's sake? This woman ranks right up there with Palin on the dumb-o-meter.
... oh, you mean like the $700 billion from TARP (half may be spent on Obama's watch, but the whole boondoggle was passed on Bush's watch) and the billions spent on our little adventure in Iraq?
That kind of debt?
I'm pretty sure she meant the >$10 billion a MONTH we're flushing down Iraqistan. Let's see, if we multiply that by 10 years that comes to $1.2 TRILLION that will have simply vanished.
How much healthcare would that buy?
Halliburton and its subsidiaries. As Cheney never gave up his stock options when he took office as the shadow president, big score for him.
DC from her front porch in PA.
Okay one more test for her. Which evil country can she see from the front porch of he house?
I think this lady is liking the teevee cameras and all this attention. My only questions are, will she be co-hosting on the Sarah Palin show and how long will it be before Mika starts defending her?
are levelling against her; the fact she said she didn't know what her husband makes in his business, that Lawrence O'Donnell asked her by framing it in the context of whether or not her taxes would go up. In which Joan Walsh also called her a moron for not knowing.
It's not unusual for the husband as breadwinner and business owner to not go over all the income and expenses of that business with his wife, or for her not to know just exactly what the total income of the business is. And the way O'Donnell framed it was somewhat dishonest as well, as polls indicate an overwhelming majority of people believe taxes will go up for those making less than $250,000.
Whatever you think of her, she isn't a moron for the way she answered that question. I would argue that both O'Donnell and Joan Walsh very much are, though. That was one of only at least three disaster interviews for O'Donnell last week, and Joan Walsh only proves Sean Hannity's point about shear liberal meanness when it comes to anyone who speaks out in a town hall that doesn't agree with her world views.
no surprise there.
yourself to make it through a day.
If she wants to remain ignorant of their financial situation that's her problem and it probably certainly will turn into a problem when her husband decides to leave her for a younger woman and takes all the money - I've seen it happen to lots of awesome, God-loving, Christian, Constitution-abiding, debt-hating couples. However, if you want to paint yourself as having an opinion and usually, that means having studied materials that brought you to that opinion, you should be able to answer questions cogently. I guess, "aw, shucks I'm a mom and wife," works as answers for you.
Because she may not have known how well her husband's business did last year, or really rather, what it might be doing this year? I think she gets the pass for that unless she has an accounting background or is interested in financial budgeting. She and her husband may go over budget details for how much they spend and set aside, but not knowing the total net income year to year for a business that may fluctuate dramatically isn't something she should be mocked for not knowing when put on the spot by someone like Lawrence O'Donnell, who has a reputation for being a kook on air in these settings.
And it's possible and perfectly plausible she didn't care to reveal their net income to the public. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, either. Especially given that the $250,000 threshhold may very well become a moot point as far as tax increases go.
or just disingenuous?
..husbands and wives see each other naked all the time but won't talk about money. However, if the woman was willing to bare all, so to speak, on the TV contraption, then an acknowledgement of which side of the $250,000 they earn would not have been inappropriate. Her family may live in poverty and could only be making bupkiss/year and certainly she could have indicated what the impact of tax increases would have had on her family. AND, Lawrence is many things, but he is not a Kook.
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Are you saying that Lawrence O'Donnell is a moron? How is he a moron in this instance? If the majority of Americans believe (rather falsely) that their taxes will go up if they make less than $250k a year, how is O'Donnell being a moron if he knows this and she doesn't?
What were the other disaster interviews for O'Donnell last week? I'm only curious because I would like to know how you set your standards, or if your standards are set by someone else.
She's a moron and a tool. She even admitted that she didn't even bother to listen to Specter's response to her question. That just tells me, that she was uninterested in having any intelligent dialog. She had what she wanted to say and she wanted to say it, bully to the rest of the details.
I think O'Donnell does believe taxes will go up for those making less than $250k and he framed the question as if it was a given that they wouldn't. The question was a set-up to make her look stupid without him appearing as if he weren't going for the jugular right off the bat.
His disaster interviews were with Peter Schiff on 8/6 where he asked him questions but did not let him answer. His other one was with Texas Congressman John Culberson, where he did the same thing and Culberson told him that was why MSNBC's ratings were in the tank.
But his all time disaster was the time he called John O'Neill a liar and repeated it 17 times in gunfire-like repetition. The man is unstable and prone to fits of rage. In short, a moron and a disaster interviewer.
Wow dennis...that's um...HA!
You rightwingers ARE REALLY graspin for straws aintcha?
Pathetic.
You DO know you're projectin just a weeeee bit.
BOR never gave interviews like that to a Democrat did he?
Hammity never gave an interview like that...did he?
Scarboy, beck, limbaugh, savage?
He just gave that bloated Texan a taste of the treatment liberals and Democrats have been receiving for YEARS from those on the right...
So...sorry...your concern trolling has failed yet again.
O'Donnell ain't O'Reilly,libNmod. He ain't Hannity or Beck, either. He has the face and the delivery for writing on blogs and that's where he should be. Even for late summer, those were disaster interviews for him and I doubt he gets asked to fill in for anyone again. But it's MSNBC, so who knows.
Or who cares, really.
Evidently, you do.
As for the rest of your post...
wow...just wow..that's about THE weakest argument from you, I've ever seen...
In other words...YOU. GOT. NUTHIN!
I don't think you even watch MSNBC or even watched the full interview of Schiff.
You're just spewing off the same talking points as the rest of the blogosphere without any original thought.
O'Reilly would have yelled over her and cut off her mic.
Are you the same Dennis that trolls over on Oliver Willis, BTW?
he is educated, intelligent and not a fear monger
he asked pointed questions based on facts
so come on dennis, answer the question
do you spend the money that you hide from your spouse on whores or booze?
O'Reilly looks like a typical drunken bully, Hannity has such a low forehead he looks like a Neanderthal, and Beck looks and acts like Bozo the insane clown. O'Donnell wins easily. Even before you know he's smart, honest, and no pushover.
Dennis what color is the sky in your world?
First of all, this is 2009, not 1959. The fact that this woman chooses to be willfully ignorant of her (as well as her husband's finances) makes her a fool. If he, by chance, cheats the gov't on their tax forms and she ignorantly signs them, she does not get a "pass". If he decides to end the marriage, wiping out their joint bank account in the process and not paying household expenses, she does not get a "pass" -- just royally screwed.
Scondly, your repeating the talking points on O'Donnell's so-called "disaster" interviews is annoying. If someone is lying, they should indeed be called out on it. Bravo to O'Donnell for having the balls to do it. You wouldn't.
The Sciff interview was awesome. The dude had no clue as to what he was talking about. Sure Schiff was okay on economic issues, but good grief the guy couldn't make a compelling case for letting the free market take over health care.
Dude, THE FREE MARKET HAS TAKEN OVER HEALTH CARE... that's why it's so expensive now.
I'll have to go back and read the transcripts of the other interviews... but if they're like Schiff, it'll be awesome.
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the only reason a husband chooses to hide what he is making from the wife, is usually cuz he's spending a ton of it on whores and booze
is that what you do?
Go watch the fucktardery displayed by Dick Armey towards Joan Walsh on Hardball a few months back before bitching about "liberal meanness."
the people you note in your post - "as polls indicate an overwhelming majority of people believe taxes will go up for those making less than $250,000." -
must be either simply stupid and unable to gather facts; stupid and unwilling to gather facts; or stupid and unable to understand facts.
Or maybe they are so far up the GOP ass they can't see the facts in front of them...or can't bring themselves to believe a black man in leadership of the free world.
78% say that if health care reform passes, middle class taxes are likely to go up.
78% is a lot of people for you to be calling stupid, BlueSam.
Rasmussen?
You do realize Rasmussen is funded by the healthcare lobby? Right? You do know that? The organization is a shill.
That's not debatable.
WTF else would they say?
If there are real people in their "survey", those people fit my description.
of the population is being racist, too?
C'mon, BlueSam, even the professional race-baiters aren't coming anywhere near estimating 78% of us being racist.
who they asked.
And yes, because it is Rasmussen, I can believe they asked people who may be likely to view Obama in a racist light.
Their results are bogus because of their funding and bias to serve their clients.
Drop it.
dennis buddy, they got you all kindsa brainwashed, kid...
Kinda sad really...
If the Repugs were in charge you can bet the middle class would be stuck with all of the tax increases.
believe that middle class taxes are likely to go up if health care reform passes?
I don't.
But we could even be more specific.
Do you believe that taxes for family units making below $250,00 AGI will be increased by the Obama administration for the purpose of paying for the reform?
That is a real survey question. Asking about "middle class" tax increases is blurry at best if you don't define an income level to coincide with the term.
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I'm sorry. I wrongly assumed that a woman would even consider dating you. I haven't had the pleasure of your inane and ill informed input until yesterday. I look forward to humiliating you whenever you offer me the opportunity and the mood strikes me. Later.
How the fuck old are you, anyway?
New Jersey??
I think maybe she should be held for 'elder abuse.' I mean, did you see the way she was shaking her finger at poor Arlen, and raising her voice and chastising him and whining??!!
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She's Susie the homemaker for FAUX News. I'm sure her 15 minutes of fame are going to last 12 months.
Sam the Not-a-plumber is nearing the end of his run? He should follow Sarah's example and quit two years in advance.
No surprise, socialism is just doing stuff for the common good. The wrong-wingers who are afraid of it are probably afraid of the boogey man under their beds too.
has brown skin.
Black, white, brown, red or yellow as long as they are to the left of Dick Cheney.
"This is the first time, though, American citizens are being attacked by a party"
Yeah right!!! As if the GOP and their pet propaganda attack dogs at FOX haven't been attacking and vilifying American citizens for YEARS!!
Anyone remember the 9/11 widows?
Gays, atheists, secular humanists, people are who are anti-war, civil libertarians.
Anti-Americans, pepper sprayed shackled and imprisoned for no reason. Only reasons were protesting the war and disrupting Bush town Hall meeting, remember???????? They were lucky to just get pepper sprayed and tazed. Funny how Anti-war protestors numbered in Millions of people and now this group the same 1000 people over and over flooding cameras, while the police look the other way, guys standing with loaded weapons, no police >>>> An anti-war protestor would have been swiss cheese for carrying a friggin water gun. I hate these people.
OOOOppppps my liberal hate came out.
Dissent, and we'll ruin your life, just like Natalie Maines and Ward Churchill.
She just said she herself would go for the free hot dog and someone rich like hannity would go for the $2 one because he wouldn't have to wait in line. YOU JUST PLAYED OUT HOW OBAMA'S PLAN WORKS YOU DOUCHEBAGS!
Is she saying that there are no nazi women who stay at home and take care of their kids?
Himmler's Nazi breeding project.
"This is the first time, though, American citizens are being attacked by a party."
i have only two words for Hannity...Cindy Sheehan.
been attacking the little girl that recently asked Obama a question at the town hall meeting?
they also attacked the girl who started "peace takes courage"
hannity has a very short memory, and forgets that the tapes of his show are now on the internet for perpetuity
which i am sure this blog and the daily show will soon remind him
Billo the Clown attacking the kid who got kidnapped saying he probably enjoyed it b/c he was out of school...
The guy's raking in the green left and right and is living the good life.
http://www.celebritydetective.com/pictures/se...
Shut up already Sean!!
for spewing bullsh*t for a living.
LOL
I'm Sean Hannity!!!! I've acquired economic power thats resulted in an elevated socio-economic status and disproportional influence over the lives of the less successful!!!!!!
Can't you just see him and Glenn Beck leaving the Fox studios at night, million dollar pay-check in hand, laughing their asses off at getting over this much with the help of all the idiots who follow them?
I sure can.
And the same goes for Rush.
I firmly believe these guys are smart enough to know exactly what they're doing, but don't care because they're getting extremely rich and if it wasn't them, there would be someone else to step right in their place.
......they are laughing all the way to the bank!
What difference does it make?
What they're doing on a daily basis is having the same effect it would have if they truly believed the BS that they say...
And the idea that they're selling out their country for cash and not ideology makes them even bigger scumbags in my eyes.
in school, don't do drugs, then join the pros before finishing high school and bulking up on steroids.
Only much worse.
much much worse.
every single time I've seen a news person ask one of these 'protesters' a question at an event, or seen an interview of them on TV
(Abrams with Hannity, the old guy who yelled at Specter with Ratigan, J the P with anybody) they prove that they are uninformed about pretty much any issue. Determining if they are actual morons, like the ones who carry the guns, is a little harder.
They only watch Fox, they do not question the source, they accept what they hear as the 'Gospel truth'. This is how they are trained.
Someday, Katy will wake up and realize that she is just being used by the corporate propaganda machine to perpetuate the status quo, and keep people like herself in her 'place'. I mostly feel sorry for her kids.
In another 22,700 years maybe.
For all their "freedom" bluster, they are very sheep-like.
Look how easily they are lead around by part-time goat and full-time ass-clown, Glen Beck.
"...You know, yeah, I mean, there are programs in place that the founders did not want to have here."
Like a standing army?
Come to think of it there was no Pentagon, no Joint-Chiefs-of-Staff, certainly no Air Force, and the only people who could vote were white property owning men, which meant large numbers of white men couldn't vote either.
from the Supreme Court today... being that he's a Constitutional Originalist and... he's black.
So does this mean that Hammety the manetee reads this blog now (not likely), I suppose the big words here will confuse him however.
To all the faux noise viewers who may now be lurking here, welcome, come on in and get a helping of truth and information. You wont ever have to go back to the pudgy finger waggers who tell you all of those scary stories all the time, we're here to make everything all right.
Attacking her only adds fuel to the goal of distraction. She is not important.
These loonies treat them like demi-gods. Like they had the fore-sight to anticipate problems in the 21st century.
Well then Ms. Abrams, stop voting, the FOUNDERS did not intend for women to vote!
I think the whole "Founders" argument is code for "I have no fucking clue to what I'm talking about, so I'm going to defer judgment to guys that owned slaves, weren't Christians, wore wigs, high heels and leggings."
(Before someone gets their panties in a wad — my sexist comment of the day — Not all of our founders owned slaves, some were Christians and not all wore wigs, high heels and leggings. Some were notorious skirt chasers, slept with the help and traded with pirates.)
Granted I'm a descendant of one of those guys (the pirate trader) and they took extraordinary risks to establish a government that would left up to the average citizen, but they can't be the answer to every argument.
and i hate to tell her this, but had she just asked the question in the town hall, then disapeared, the attacks on her would have been minimized
she has chosen to show up to all the political shows...so now she is fair game
and she ben franklin never said shit about drunks...for he was one...here is what he said
"To relieve the misfortunes of our fellow creatures is concurring with the Deity; it is godlike, but, if we provide encouragement for laziness, and supports for folly, may we not be found fighting against the order of God and Nature, which perhaps has appointed want and misery as proper punishmets for, and cautions against, as well as necessary consequences of, idleness and extravagance? Whenever we attempt to amend the scheme of Providence and to interfere with government of the world, we had need be very circumspect, lest we do more harm than good. "
the man couldve just been easily talking about the ceos of insurance companies, wall street and the banking system
you stupid bitch
and to hannity's producers...you can fuck off too
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Like grimalkin, rash limpballs and oily tits.
One should also point out that she's made herself a public figure, and as such, has increased the difficulty in proving preponderence of evidence for winning either a libel or a slander suit.
And ridicule is fairgame as per precedent and case history with the Supreme Court case of Hustler Magazine v. Falwell , 485 U.S. 46 (1988).
Remmeber when Cindy Sheehan asked an elected offical a question, and Fox News had her on as a guest to tell her how great she was?
............treated Cindy Sheehan? She started out as a mom against the war and they batted her around like a baseball!
Remember how Bill-O treated that guy whose parents died in 911?
Par for the course.
I see that they exposed them selves as church groups, she even said she does things for her church, her husband said she is on a mission(a mission for God not said but implied)).
Expose the hypocracy by checking into her church group, and see if maybe Blue/cross Blue shieild donates to her church groups. You think maybe???? Big corporations donate to religous organizations for tax write offs, don't they. Money to do the dirty work.
I don't like the inocent pouty little girl act, the way she was screaming at Spector, then she is all quiet and frail, interview after interview, is so fake. Hatefull people. Hell, Pa. weeeeeee
PS.
I took a drive down route 11 this morning, business after business is closed, land for lease at least 30 in a small 1 mile stretch in Camp Hill, it has hit here now, little bit of a lag but we are now officially out of business too, Bankrupt like an old George Bush oil company.
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