How twisted is this: Naming your child after Hitler
I never really know what to do with stories about messed-up white-supremacist parents who force their kids into their lifestyle and all that it contains, like the "Prussian Blue" Gaede twins. My first impulse is to keep the kids out of the discussion, even though their parents have dragged them into it.
But damn. This is just sad:
HOLLAND TWP. | In a living room decorated with war books, German combat knives and swastikas, a 2-year-old boy, blond and blue-eyed, played with a plastic dinner set.
The boy, asked his name, put down a tiny plate and ran behind his father's leg. He flashed a shy smile but wouldn't answer. Heath Campbell, 35, the boy's father, encouraged him.
"Say Adolf," said Campbell, a Holocaust denier who has three children named for Nazism.
Again, the boy wouldn't answer. It wasn't the first time the name caused hesitation.
Adolf Hitler Campbell -- it's indeed the name on his birth certificate -- turns 3 today, and the Campbell family believes the boy has been mistreated. A local supermarket refused to make a birthday cake with "Adolf Hitler" on it.
Yes, the Campbells are raising a stink because the local Shop Rite won't make a birthday cake with little Adolph's name on it. And to be honest, I'm not sure the store's rationale is viable. But on the other hand, you have to wonder about any parent who would do this to their kids -- not only name them "Adolf Hitler" and "Aryan Nations" but then make public political causes celebre of them.
Especially a mother who can rationalize it to herself thus:
"I just figured that they're just names," Deborah Campbell said. "They're just kids. They're not going to hurt anybody."
Heath Campbell said some people like the names but others are shocked to hear them. "They say, 'He (Hitler) killed all those people.' I say, 'You're living in the wrong decade. That Hitler's gone,'" he said.
"They're just names, you know," he said. "Yeah, they (Nazis) were bad people back then. But my kids are little. They're not going to grow up like that."
Sorry, lady, but "Adolf Hitler" is not just a name. It's the name of the man directly responsible for the murders of 6 million Jews and millions more in other liquidations and his wars. It's a name that signifies real, living evil to many millions of people still living. And you pay homage to him by naming a child after him.
And don't get me started on "Aryan Nations".
I just hope young Adolf and Aryan have the inner strength to grow up normal, which some of these kids actually manage to do. And that's probably the sweetest comeuppance for their parents of all.
[H/t to Susie.]
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Some stuff you can't make up!
6 million jews
7 million poles
16 million soviets (russians, lithuanians, etc.)
you only mentioned jewish deaths in numbers.
I've heard 50 million plus died in WWII. I'll have to go look it up . . . .
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That always bothers me when people say 6 million as though other non-Aryans dont count...and gays...and gypsies...
Okay...here's where my confusion lies....
I understand why the family has a problem...the local Shop-Rite isnt doing what they want...
But doesnt Shop-Rite have the right to say 'no'? I mean...you really cant hand me the 1st Amendment right answer because SR isnt a federal property plus SR is asserting their rights by saying no.
Right. This isn't a free speech issue. The right often claims that private companies can refuse service (morning after pills, birth control, etc). This would be the same thing.
I hope (nay, expect) to hear Bill O'Reilly decrying these parents as offensive, just like he goes on and on about the offensiveness of the "war on christmas."
These parents should have their kids removed by the state.
Obviously they don't realize they're PEOPLE.
Instead they treat them like animals that they OWN.
Sick. Unfit parents.
Yes, the parents were insane enough to name their child "Adolf Hitler Campbell", but the question is: Should the child be punished for the idiocy of the parents? Isn't what you are spewing just the "sins of the father" crap that all of wish didn't exist.
The parents are morons, plain and simple. Let's leave the facts at that and allow the kid to enjoy his birthday.
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Where in the lead does the author attack the children, or blame them, or punish them? He states that he hopes the kids grow up normal.
Or are you just looking for a fight here?
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...That the poster meant the kid, regardless of his name should've been able to get his b'day cake.
..get his cake. If the parents want to believe that the cake company discriminated against their child they named after a mass-murderer then so be it.
I think the cake company did the right thing.
Sometimes people like this make my brain hurt!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
In the Baking section of ANY grocery store they sell little tubes of colored icing for lettering on cakes. They had every option for putting the name on the cake themselves.
I'm NOT saying the store was right. I'm saying the kid could have had his name on his cake.
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the store has every right to refuse service at their discretion. Don't like it, take your business elsewhere.
the store offered to write happy birthday on the cake, but refused to write the name, giving them the option to do it themselves.
I'm not going to argue otherwise. Personally, I would not have done it if the job had fallen to me.
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The story I read said the local Wal-Mart filled the order and used the kid's name.
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has Walmart, RED China's 8th or 9th largest trading partner, ever cared who it did business with since old Sam died and the brats took over?
A. H. Campbell was denied his birthday cake by the parent's first choice of bakeries and that is the big problem.
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At least Frank Zappa had chronic drug abuse for naming his kids Moon Unit and Dweezle.
Didn't use drugs. If he caught you using drugs(even burning one) you were fired. This goes all the way back to The Mothers of Invention. That's why Flo and Eddie got fired.
On a side note.
Ayran Nations and White Supremecy groups?
Are we talking about the GOP again?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
That was also true with Alice Cooper (Frank Zappa produced his first two albums). The rules with AC were everyone on stage, no matter what their function had to wear ear-plugs, female guests would be carded--maybe more than once to prevent the presence of underage girls, first-come-first serve to seats on jets, busses and buffets. If a roadie gets a seat a performer wants you may ask them if you can have it, but not demand it. Although pornographic magazines wasn't forbidden, on video AC might get uncomfortable with it, so on one occassion they had to turn off Deep Throat. If you see an insect escort it outside, don't squish it in front of Alice. And definetely no drugs, if you're caught with any we don't know you are.
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I would bet good money that they reliably vote Republican, if they vote.
I've read several books about Zappa, including the one he wrote himself, and I've never read anything about him firing Flo and Eddie, especially over drugs. The story that both sides tell is that after Zappa was thrown off the stage in Europe he spent a lot of time recuperating and most of the members of the band went on to do other things. You are right about Zappa not doing drugs though.
not only fired musicians that used drugs - he helped make anti-drug radio commercials and penned a number of anti-drug songs e.g."Teenage Wind" "City of Tiny Lights"
I'll look for it again on you tube. I know his work really well and I know his stand on drugs, but the look on his face was such a give away. I'll try to find a video.
It has nothing to do with the discussion here.
Can you really tell whether a person is stoned as opposed to drunk, just psyched by the music, or perhaps no sleep? I would be interested in seeing the video you mention just because I can never get enough Zappa but he definitely did not smoke pot or do other drugs. He tried pot a couple of times and said it just made his throat scratchy.
Sorry as soon as the kid goes to school he will have problems. Naturally you will find out that the kids will be home schooled by these freaks. Yes, freaks. There is no other name for it.
... that if the crap the parents spew doesn't permanently ruin the kids - they'll change their names as soon as legally possible. If their parents ever get a clue, they'll do it long before then.
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I do agree its a non-story but it still serves one important function. Education. You'd be AMAZED at how many people, especially younger ones who've just come through our education system, think that racism was 'solved' back in the 60's. As a NY'er I grew up fairly sheltered from the rest of the world and it wasn't until I was in my 20's and quite embarrassed to learn racism was still rampant.
I'm sorry but are you actually whining about the existence of an article on personal weblog that has never actually claimed to be a strictly news oriented website??
A non-story? Really?
Get a life.
The disease of bigotry is alive and well in the good old USA.
... [Deleted. To quote the person who flagged this: "This is just offensive conjecture" I agree-Sitemonitor].
I dated a girl named Ariane, she was Iranian... She was a senior in college while I was a senior in high school... Fun times...
So Shop Right is within their rights to refuse to make a cake with an objectionable name on it, just as they have the right to refuse a 'novelty' cake that says something like 'happy b'day, 4$$hole'.
This is telling, though:
"The grocer offered to make a cake with enough room for the Campbells to write their own inscription. But the Campbells refused, saying they would have a cake made at the Wal-Mart in Lower Nazareth Township. The Campbells say Wal-Mart made cakes for Adolf's first two birthdays."
Yay, Wal-Mart, always nice to know they support Nazism.
And this quote, "The Campbells said they wanted their children to have unique names and didn't expect the names to cause problems." shows the parents are dumber than a bag of hammers...
Then there's this, "Disabilities, the couple says, have left both out of work: Heath Campbell can't landscape or pump gas because he has emphysema, and Deborah can't waitress because she has a bad back. They live on Social Security payments."
I fully support SSI payments for people with disabilities. Since they are both home all day they have plenty of time to bake their own cake and decorate it however they want. My kids always have cake-mix cakes baked and decorated at home, and both me and my wife work. So what's their problem?
This sure sounds like they are searching for a reason to get attention, especially after Shop Rite said they'd leave room for them to put their own kids name on (using those gel-frosting squeeze tubes). Are these people really so incredibly lazy they can't lift one finger to do something personal for their kids?
I had similar thoughts when I heard about this. It seems like they are just looking for media attention.
Poor kid. Hope he gets a cool nickname in school.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
Fuehrer?
Aldie or something, but yours is better. Sieg Hiel.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
which is another optional activity.
even brown americans.
Some stuff you can't make up!
I'd bet a paycheck that he attended at least one Palin rally....probably several.
This is one stupid human. He just completely screwed up his kids lives. His daughter will probably survive. But his son is doomed.
Ofcourse the kid will be taught all the racism he can stand.
Which will screw him up even more.
Then he has to live in the real world.
I hate to say it. But I say he'll be dead or in prison by the time he's 20.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Unfortunately, you are right. If he turns out even somewhat normal it would be like winning the lottery. Slim odds.
Something like this happened 20 years or so ago in Britain. A family got a letter from the government telling them they couldn't name their daughter Princess. They said it had to be something else, but suggested Princess could still be a nick-name.
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Here in America I know a woman named Princess. But I can see why the Brits would be unhappy about it.
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The parents sound both really, really stupid with a little cunning thrown in. The idea that they are surprised someone wouldn't want to bake a cake with Adolph Hitler on it seems truly unbelievable. I also find it strange they both happen to have disabilities that prevent them from working at the same time and they happen to have children with "unique" names plus, they just happen to be in the paper! For me the really strange part is I just started reading William L. Shirer's The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich a few days ago and have just finished the first part about Adolph Hitlers early years. Now I see this article.
is an excellent, but chilling read.
Here are the names they rejected:
Jeffrey Dahlmer Campbell
Charles Manson Campbell
Attilla The Hun Campbell
They're just simple folk with simple minds.
You forgot . . .
George Bush Campbell.
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Pol Pot Campbell
Idi Amin Campbell
Dennis Rader Campbell
This is fun.
Ted Bundy Campbell
John Wayne Gacy Campbell
Richard Ramierez Campbell
Edward Gein Campbell
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
Dick Cheney Campbell
Donald Rumsfeld Campbell
Karl Rove Campbell
Poor child....not only does he have to endure that stupid name, but it looks like mommy and daddy are in the process of cultivating a full-blown mullet too.
Let me guess...in about twenty years, young 'Dolph's list of career aspirations will include being promoted all the way up from taking tickets to RUNNING the Tilt-o-Whirl.
. . . how to get on SS disability.
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Gotta go off the path here a minute and say I like the new little dealie that pops up when a new comment is added. Now it doesn't pop up over the comment box when I'm typing. Nice little make over touch this morning. Okay I did have to log in again to post, but I can deal with that if it's the only time.
Now about this fu*ked up family. I don't know what to say except that I'm sure there are a lot more of their kind and sadly, that may never go away.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
like friggin rabbits.
the reason that fact based sex education needs to be taught in schools.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
I agree, but don't be surprised if "teh stupid" doesn't go away.
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Looks like we have a prime "Worst Person In The World" candidate for tonight!
When I was a kid, if I had ever had a cake made at a grocery or a bakery I would have thought we were rich. My mom made any cake I had because only "fancy people" had store bought cakes.
Just sayin'
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
To me the frosting writing on store bought cakes always tasted like chalk.
I've had them at work, not growing up. Unfortunately I stopped growing about the age of 13 or 14.
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because you are so witty with your repartee.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
No literally, I'm only 5'3".
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When my children came along, my mother passed down to me two little books, originally promotions from "Baker's Coconut," which contained patterns for cutting up and putting together fancy-shaped cakes. A sailboat, lion, house, teddy bear, swan, etc. It was fun! And cheap. Good pictures for the album.
No need for a store-bought cake.
I can count on one hand how many times I had a store bought cake. We had beautiful cakes. I am a working mom and I generally make my son's cakes by hand, but now that he is influenced by Teevee, he wants character cakes from the store.
I am pregnant with kid 2 and as I am black, what do you lot think of Mugabe, Mubutu or Amin? I am married to a British guy with an Irish last name, so I could call the kid Cromwell. There was a kid in NZ called Sex Fruit, and another called Number 9 Bus Shelter.
I am not one for advocating eugenics, but it would have been nice for these people to have been removed from the gene pool.
has a nice ring to it...
Have you thought of naming your second child Obama or Hussein? It's all the rage.. ;)
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
If the kid's smart when he grows up (unlikely) he'll call himself "Dolf" Campbell and tell people he's from Belgium.
Give the parents some credit....after all, it could have been worse....Imagine if they named the poor child "Dick Cheney Campbell"
Don't jump the gun. They are young enough to have more kids and that name might be used yet.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Yep. There's an Eva Braun Campbell in the future.
Ghengis Khan...or Vlad the Impaler....
Think my first born male child will get one of those names.
Another friend gave his boy Danger for his middle name.
That's pretty damn cool actually.
I may steal that Danger idea, if I ever actually reproduce.
I know someone who named her daughter Isis. Isis has a son, and his middle name is "Anakin." Yes, Darth Vader's birth name.
I've actually considered naming my son...(if I ever spawn progeny) Wolfgang Otto...my last name starts with W, so his initials would be WOW...but everyone I talk to about it...doesn't think it's a good idea...
Buncha wet blankets!
How about Larry Othelo LiberalNmoderation.
What, Dracula was taken?
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What does this new button "ignore user" mean or do? When would we use that and why? I need to know this stuff.
{That's a good question POP. I need to know that too. I'll work on it,
Thank You. SiteMonitor}
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
But I do love pickin them apart.
I know we aren't supposed to feed trolls, but sometimes they are fun to play with.
I think this couple named their kids these names for shock value and to garner attention. Sounds like the Campbells are screaming for someone to notice them. If they wanted to be clever, they would have named them Chicken Noodle and Creamy Tomato. Now those are good Campbell (soup) names.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
happened to dennis?
Did his head explode on Nov 4?
Either that, or his contract with the GOP ended, and he had to find a real job.
He's probably in a medical facility somewhere being treated.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Electing that liberal negro President was clearly the last straw....Dennis is now resuming plans with the Palins to secede.
Good riddance!
And I'm sure they'll be secessful.
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Biblically?
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I'm sorry, did you say something? I was busy hitting buttons on the screen.
I would use caution before hitting the "ingore user" button. We don't yet know what it does. It may make someone turn to mist for all we know.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA
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you enjoy using this clip entirely too much!!! LOL
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
And quite versatile as well!
very functional, I agree.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
They have a decent scene that's similar in this movie, but unfortunately it's not on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZxWKpJGajE
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I am SO sorry I looked.
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Your grossed out by Timothy Dalton?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxpt0oGCDg
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... when it comes to blood and gore -- I'm easily grossed out. My kids tell me which movies I can see.
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I saw scanners ages ago... they just don't make movies like that anymore. Oh what am I saying? what are we on with the "SAW" series now?
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
SAW Meets (Pauly) Shore and Carrottop.
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simply removes from sight any users whose comments you do not wish to view. You will see something like
COMMENT BY SO AND SO YOU ARE IGNORING
I don't know if there is a un-ignore. I am waiting to test it when someone comes on I want to ignore. I'll post if nothing else comes up.
he has about thirty days to out do Hitler's death count.
... that some day in the future, when a rightwing nutsoid decides to name his child George Bush Jones, a wise baker will refuse to put that name on a cake as well.
"I never really know what to do with stories about messed-up white-
supremacist parents who force their kids into their lifestyle and all that it contains"
First, "Messed-up white-supremacists" is a pleonasm.
Second, you can change "white supremacists" for "fundamentalist (insert religion)". I agree with Richard Dawkins when he explains how appalling he finds the idea of a "christian child", a "muslim child". Children should be capable of making their own mind about religion but also about politics and anything else that makes up society.
There are laws about animal cruelty, but it's a right of parents to physically assault children and brainwash them in "home schooling" or in religious schools. Ignorance must be taught and reinforced for it to survive and flourish.
They were going to name him Zyklon B. Campbell ("Hey, it's just a gas!") but decided it sounds too "foreign".
Doesn't this qualify as child abuse?
It is defintely going to cause these poor kids a lifetime of grief...I mean...how can they find work with names like that?
I'm sure they'll be shoo-ins for jobs at Resistance Records or the Stormfront website.
It sure does in my mind!
This is actually a valid point.
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Fritz61, for example, thinks that anyone who decries such an asinine choice of names for these poor, innocent kids who will have to live with their parents stupidity for the rest of their lives (which are not destined to amount to much, with all they are up against) is making a 'typical' lefty ad hominem attack.
I would venture to guess that Fritz is a charter member of Aryan Nation!
Won't write Adolph Hitler on a birthday cake? Gee first it's the war on Christmas and now this. Will these PC types stop at nothing?
I had a guy come into a restaurant that I managed with his wife and two kids dressed in full Nazi uniform. He had a red swatstika, the whole nine yards. This was in Eureka, Ca)
I served them. I didn't think twice about it. Was I wrong?
I'm sure you were only following orders.
I am by no means a Nazi sympathizer. I don't know they practically looked like a Halloween costume and people were laughing at them.
For people like that, any attention is probably better than none. Again, they were going for shock value no matter how stupid it was. Probably on their way to the old Jerry Springer show to be guests.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
You'd be up to your eye balls in lawsuits.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
I tried to add a smiley face so you knew I was a joking. I haven't quite gotten the new format down, yet and I guess my smiley didn't take.
[Use the colon, and close parentheses mark. :) or add the dash :-).
;) Sitemonitor]
I didn't take offense and I thought the response was clever.
I don't think so, anyway.
Allowing idiots and bigots free speech (including by way of symbolism) is one of the fundamentals of our society. It's just difficult to apply sometimes.
But, I wouldn't recommend that anyone else eat the food served to them.
Just saying...never know what manner of ungodly detritus could appear in their meal...
that might be free speech via symbolism too.
Good one Bob!
Those kids will be ruined for life - absolutely ruined.
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Wrong? No...but with my sense of humor, I would have probably made sure at least one thing I served them was Kosher.
At the very least these parents are placing a god awful societal handicap on these little kids.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA
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... I'm afraid to look ....
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Really...
Just names?
Your name wouldn't be... "Dick", would it?
(movie quote - no offense to any Richards intended)
Roxanne
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We all know the shit that Obama had to put up with due to his middle name. I doubt this little boy could get past his first and middle name if he should ever have the opportunity to run for president. Thanks mom and dad.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Just wondering. How many parents have named their kids after george bush, dick cheney, condi rice, jerry falwell, rush limbaugh, mike savage, etc.?
There was a guy in GA, I think, who, without consent of his wife, named his kid something like Fred McCain Palin Soandso (I don't remember the exact name, but I do remember the wife was none too pleased).
Not nearly as many might be named after Obama about 9 months after the date of the Grant park post election speech.
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If the name is no big deal why doesn't daddy change his name to Adolf Hitler Campbell Sr? It is a shame what parents will do to their children in order to further their own causes.
An absolute symptom of chronic immaturity.
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Does anybody else find it ironic that both these proud members of the Master Race are on the public dole?
Can't pump gas? Cant waitress? Honestly, some people should be on SS Disability but I know a guy with no legs and a whole lot of other health problems who teaches in a middle school. Neither one of these clowns has a physical disability compared to him. Their real disability is that they are both effin' stupid.
on welfare. As good as it gets.
I can't tell if Adolf Senior there has the required lack of teeth that accompanies such bright thinking.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
You failed to mention effen lazy, as well.
Spit in pre-ordered food, fights at bars and resturants after showing I.D., endless school taunting, additional beatings from muggers once name is found out, etc.
the poor kid won't be able to get that Adolf Key chain from the Grand Canyon or New York City without special personalization. No pre-made name mugs or bike licence plates....
I wonder if Things Remembered will engrave a pen for him in the future...
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
After the beatings, muggings, etc...to be denied peronalized baubles...that might prove to be too much to bear!
. . . who do you think they'll blame? Their parents? Not with the indoctrination they're about to get.
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They're gonna be blaming the eeeeevil liberals.
Just saying.............
... for the boy or the girl?
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That's a law in the United Kingdom. You may not use as a name a royal title. Unless they've changed it recently, though I haven't heard anything to that effect.
was supposed to be a reply to baddaden at 6:01.
If I recall correctly, it is against the law to name a child Adolph in Germany.
So much for the argument that these are "only names"
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Naming the boy Twisted Sister?
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Naming his kid Nashville Pussy.
Her?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utP1mGoutQ
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZIDgAadO8
?
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