White nationalists are serious about returning to social dominance
By David Neiwert Saturday May 23, 2009 12:00pm
WHAS-11, a local station in Louisville, Kentucky, ran a news story earlier this week examining the ongoing fortunes of the Imperial Klans of America, which recently lost a $2.5 million lawsuit filed by the Southern Poverty Law Center. In spite of those setbacks, the IKA is marching onward:
"I don't believe any country can survive with multi-culturalism. I believe that we should all have our own states; we should all have our own countries. If you look at race mixing, homosexuality and abortion our race is basically being defeated. There won't be a lot of whites left in another 20 years," says Edwards.
It's Ron Edwards and other white supremacists greatest fear, a fear that's prompted countless hate crimes all over the country. Recently, in Meade County, five IKA members attacked a 15-year-old Panamanian teenager. The Southern Poverty Law Center, founded by Morris Dees, sued Ron Edwards for the attack, claiming his teachings led directly to the assault. The Southern Poverty Law Center won that case, a sweeping victory that Morris says, bankrupted the IKA organization.
"I think the case against Ron Edwards and the IKA was very successful. At the beginning of this he had 23 chapters in 17 states. Now they're down to 6 chapters in five states. The money is pretty much dried up and he's a near shadow of himself," says Morris Dees, Founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Ron Edwards disagrees.
"The IKA is going stronger than ever," he says.
Melanie Kahn asks, "Over the past six months to a year or so how much has the IKA membership grown?"
"Quite a bit, that's all I'll say," says Edwards.
There's no evidence to support Edwards' claim, but there is evidence that other hate groups in Kentucky and across the country are in fact, growing. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center's annual "Year in Hate" report, hate group membership has grown by 50% since 2000, and 5% just since last year.
On April 7, the Department of Homeland security released a report affirming that claim and cited several reasons for the rise of hate groups.
Worth remembering, perhaps, is the fact that Edwards' son leads the skinhead group to which belonged the two skinheads arrested in Tennessee last year for plotting to murder dozens of black people and to assassinate President Obama.
The story illustrates how white supremacists like the Klan can take real body blows and yet keep on ticking. As someone involved in the 30-year struggle to take down the Aryan Nations, it rang a very familiar bell.
I've been reading Leonard Zeskind's magisterial new book, Blood and Politics: The History of the White Nationalist Movement from the Margins to the Mainstream, which will probably become the definitive text for many years to come on the state of white nationalism and white-supremacist ideology in America. (The official book site is here.)
The book is a stunningly complete documentation of how white nationalism, once banished to the fringes, has been working itself back into the mainstream of American discourse (something which is, of course, the major topic of my own book, The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right). I've known Zeskind for some years -- his research prowess was legendary even in the '90s, and many of us have been waiting years for him to assemble it all in one place.
Bill Berkowitz at Religion Dispatches interviewed Zeskind, who talked about why he wrote it:
It became apparent to me that much of the received wisdom about white supremacists was simply wrong. And I wanted to write a book that did not just say what I thought was correct, but I wanted to show it through specific characters, scenes of action and analysis. These white-ists are not just a bunch of uneducated bumpkins down on their economic luck. Instead, they are demographically much like the rest of white Americans, working class and middle class with a significant stratum of middle class professionals—professors, lawyers, chiropractors, etc.—as their leaders.
And, these are not a string of disconnected organizations sharing only a common set of hatreds. Rather, this is a single movement, with a common set of leaders and interlocking memberships that hold a complete and sometimes sophisticated ideology. Further, the white nationalist movement today is organized around the notion that the power of whites to control government and social policy has already been overthrown by people of color and Jews, rather unlike the Klan of the 1960s which sought to defend a system of racial apartheid in the South.
And he takes, evidently, a similar view of our prospects down the road:
Although I loathe predicting the future, I will say that in the past, hard economic times have not automatically translated into an expansion for white nationalists. There was a growth surge during the Clinton years, for example, which were generally considered better economic conditions for middle class people. In the past, the politics of race and nation mattered more than economic hard times. White nationalists will support protectionist measures, and they oppose free trade in capital goods because they oppose free trade (or open borders) for labor. Whether or not they gain traction by claiming that the stock market and banks are controlled by Jews depends on whether people of goodwill are able to offer a more compelling vision of change.
With Obama in the White House, I think we can expect more of the same, plus some. Some white nationalists will focus on tending to their current base—which is not inconsiderable. They will continue to push for secessionist-style white enclaves and might engage in militia-style violence. Others will attempt to widen their base, and carve out a larger niche among conservative Republicans. Without an electoral vehicle of their own, they will suffer from the vicissitudes of the Republican leadership. Their natural base, however, will be the five percent of white voters who told pollsters last summer that they would never vote for a black person for president. More than Rush Limbaugh will get ugly.
I talked to Lenny on the phone the other day and he's excited about the book's release; he's been at writing it for decades. We'll be having him over here at C&L for a chat soon.
It certainly looks like it couldn't have arrived at a more fortuitous moment.








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I thought "Well, America couldn't get any worse or more backward from the rest of the world."
I was wrong.
if these white racists want their own country,
then they need to remember, though reading or
literacy is not a trait of these assholes, then
they should move out of America, because it's
the white man that moved here and took over
the land from the indigenous people.
but of course, their memory is only as long
as their right hand lasts helping each other edging
...........lol
think we should get out of America too. Stupid assholes, the whole lot of them!
If there is another attack on American soil you can be sure it will be from one or more of these white extremists groups.
Losers that group together, tattoo their heads, vow Hitler was right, and wear sheets - thank goodness they are a tiny percent of our population. LA Gangs have more members.
The problem with successfully dividing us and them (ethnically, religiously, or by geography), is that inevitably “us” will again be divided into a smaller group, and the “them” will be once again be among us. When everyone can be separated by group, and groups must be separate, eventually there’s no one left.
These groups all splinter accordingly. They can't contain their fear and hate.
I think that advocacy of the Master Race has now been sublimated to a more politically correct advocacy of the Master Religion.
We need to move to a glorious Fourth Reich, where Christianity reigns supreme, eliminating the infidels and nonbelievers. In Jesus name, we pray.
And torture is a good thing if conducted in the name of the Lord.
I think that about sums up the new GOP, which is why the college educated Republicans are fleeing the party.
That is a succinct description of the Party of NO Ideas and I hope the American people can see through their wingnutiness and ignore them. The real Republican party of Dwight Eisenhower is spinning in their graves. And don't tell me Reagan was a real Republican......he's the one who started the ruination of the middle class by shutting down the unions and giving big tax breaks to the rich and famous. Bush 2 continued it BIG TIME by turning the Treasury over to the Military Industrial Complex and setting us up for perpetual war.....along with continuing to destroy the middle class, which we see in all its glory through the banking & mortgage crisis he set in motion along with depression-level unemployment. Thanks, GOP....I believe your permanent majority is now in the dumper.
Well if everyone should go back to their country of origin, as these white supremacists maintain, then THEY should go back to their european country of origin and give America back to the natives from whom it was taken. Of course logic and reasoning isn't exactly their strong suit.
Cheney,Glen Beck, Limball,, and the rest of the neos are on the right path of these guys. Hate speech and fear is what they want to spread and the more they infect the better.
Members in congress are already there and it seems loyalties and beliefs are starting to shine.
All neo Nazis/neoconservatives please stand up!
If they can't make white supremacy popular again with a black president, then they really ought to just give it up.
I guess thats the problem fear and hate programing is popular on airways, which is what they belive, so they are gaining ground.
sort of funny. they are so afraid WHITES will be eradicated through time and breeding. and yet WHITE people would not exist were people like them not so invested in making sure the idea lived on. what is a "WHITE" person? it is the type that has been decided long ago to benefit from all the things a person would want. the NONWHITE was that sort (and it changes) who is deemed not worthy of the rights and benefits any person should have and most want. by insisting on the division, backed up by violence, they are telling me they want me and people like me to suffer without the rights they want.
bye bye shrinking idea.
Aren't LA gangs primarily concerned with protecting their own turf, selling drugs, and fighting each other? The white supremacists have bigger fish to fry. Perhaps their mindset should be looked at from a mental health perspective. They are mean and crazy, harder to deal with than mere ignorance and greed.
"evil". They've got nothing to do with us folks with psychiatric disabilities. ;)
Since we're being all PC, "evil" people prefer the term "morally challenged and decency impaired". Evil has such a bad ring to it...
I wasn't referring to psychiatric disabilities. But, do you think extreme hatred is normal mental functioning? I am not making excuses for them, just observing that such extreme hatred bears scrutiny. Just as you cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theater, you should not be able to preach and plot to kill certain groups of people. It is a crime, and should be a crime. But it is also mental instability. I absolutely agree that it is evil, but some are more prone to act evilly than others. Especially those who cannot judge people by their actions and not for their inclusion in a particular group.
You can't make sense out of the senseless - you'll only end up hurting your brain. The biological idea of race is a myth, everything with the exception of some skin color and body features that is claimed or thought to be due to "race" is due to "culture".
Humans are Humans, to divide based on color and visual differences is beyond ridiculous.
that a higher degree of education must be made mandatory, and that that education must include multiple courses in American and world history as well as multicultural sensitivity training. i'm not trying to be cruel, but the man in the video sounded like he was borderline retarded. unbelievable.
just want to give a shout out to Lou Dobbs for all of his help in fanning the flames of hate for ALIENS.
...The Governor of Texas, Rick Perry, wants his state to secede. I suggest we build a 20 foot wall around the state and send all these white supremecists, KKK, nationalists, etc. there....thereby killing two birds with one stone! They can all revel in each others' company and everybody will be armed, so they can all have their second amendment rights to play with and maybe they'll end up eliminated!
Absolutely - and we should build a wall along the border w/ the nation of Texas to keep the riff-raff out of "our" country. :)
But of course, we'll take all federally-funded goods and services OUT of Texas before they secede, and offer sanctuary for any progressive Texans who don't want to live in such a backward nation as Texas.
And if Mexico invades, we side with them in their efforts to re-take their territory!
Texico?
So, if this does happen, can I please come live with the cool people? It's bad enough. I don't want to be "left behind"!
i also happen to be someone with dark skin pigmentation.
fortunately kentucky has concealed carry laws.
my main fear is not that these people will actually do anything in louisville, because where i live in my neighborhood we were here before everyone else moved in around us and that was 20 years ago and in general there aren't any overt racial problems in the city, but the idiots out in the state (you know, where the majority are registered democrats but voted overwhelmingly for mccain and listed race as a voting factor. these are also the same people who overwhelmingly voted for both clintons when they had the opportunity) would think that groups like these were positive. passive racism still exists even in places you would think it wouldn't like elizabethtown. it's not exactly what anyone would consider a major city, but its big enough that there is a multicultural mixing.
What is that, a Sarah Palin rally?
Fuck Whitey.....and Lumpy to.
I used to work corporate security for a multinational and we'd help the FBI with counter-terrorism. All they had to do was put one of the white separatist types in a room by himself, rattle his cage, and he'd sell out his "brothers." The agents thought that the same psychological problems they made these losers join groups like this also made them easy to crack in interrogation, as compared to members of groups like FALN, who were hard-nosed.
But to compare these fools to the mentally ill is an insult to mental illness. It's fundamentally moral cowardice blended with fear. Bake with some ignorance, garnish with demagoguery and voila!
They got this show gangland on the history channel. Every time the episode is on some white supremacist group, there is always one guy who turned informant and brought the whole thing down.
please don't get me wrong,this is an excellent post,and furthermore i'm fully in favor of hate crime legislation-with real teeth-that said,the klan enclave in dawson springs is composed of people who could not make out in a whore house with a dog whistle,a stun gun and a credit card,because they could not consistently use them in them in the correct order,leave aside the prescribed manner.
my concern is that whas tv like much of local tv plays into the pernicious stereotyping of minorities which feeds the racially charged atmosphere which has dominated "kentuckiana" for generations.as a long time louisville resident,and frequent visitor to the derby city,i can testify that whas tv presents minority communities in as lurid a manner as current standards of good taste permit-at the least the station presents as "balanced" the notion that "racism" and "reverse racism" are basically equivalent morally,as well as logically.the station handles the large white supremacist enclave in southern indiana in a tone similar to its reports on the "ky alliance against racism,and political repression." in my opinion the station's portrayal of the redoubtable community activist rev louis coleman as a mean spirited buffoon was shameful on its face.
when has whas ever broadcast even a tepid rebuttal to the usual toxic and inflammatory portrayal of blacks,let alone the other communities it routinely vilifies in accordance with its understanding of journalistic ethics balanced with its internalization of who butters its bread? will the viewers ever be treated to a report on the june 2006 report of the cdc which demonstrated that WHITE youth are MORE likely than AFRICAN AMERICAN kids to participate,at significantly higher rates,,in a whole tawdry array of anti-social activities-i'm talking drug and alcohol abuse,carrying weapons to school,driving while drunk etc-when did whas do in depth reporting on the late rev coleman's tireless efforts-nightly at that-in the "west end" -to combat all the activities that get african american kids on the nightly news-including the all important protocol on how black kids can best handle those nasty encounters with often tyrannical louisville police.does anyone really believe that an interview with a twisted racist really balances the nightly parade of jump suited,sneering black young men? when will "responsible" msn rebut the core racial stereotypes with evidence gathered by the us government ? thanks
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