Jon Voight tells Republicans that Obama's 'a soft-spoken Julius Caesar'
By David Neiwert Tuesday Jun 09, 2009 3:00pm
Evidently, actor Jon Voight -- obviously someone with great experience and insight on matters of foreign diplomacy, since he once played President Roosevelt in the movies -- warmed up the audience for last night's GOP fundraiser by reading from his prepared speech as though it were a first read-through on a script. And we gather he thinks President Obama needs to get tougher with the rest of the world:
Voight: It saddens me greatly to think we were the great power for good in the world. We as Americans knew America to be strong. And we were the liberators of the entire world. We are becoming a weak nation.
Of course, invading another country under false pretenses -- an invasion Voight avidly supported -- couldn't have had anything to do with that decline, could it? Adopting a torture regime as official American policy had nothing to do with our low moral standing among the world's nation's, did it?
Voight: Obama really thinks he is a soft-spoken Julius Caesar, he thinks he's going to conquer the world with his soft-spoken sweet talk, and really thinks he's going to bring all the enemies of the world into a little playground where they'll swing each other back and forth.
Hmmmmm. So which is it, Jon? A Roman dictator, or a sweet-talking naif? We gather he thinks Obama is behaving like the latter abroad, and the former at home. But, you know, they don't really go together in the same package very well.
Guess this is why movie stars make the worst dinner emcees. Big thinkers, they're not.
In any event, watching Voight tread through these paces reminded me of one of his more recent starring roles: As Jonas Hodges, the evil mastermind of the renegade black-ops outfit that was Jack Bauer's nemesis in the eighth season of "24." Looks like some of that mindset rubbed off ...
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Asshole!
Do we really have democrats elected by our democrat voters or are the really republicans....
Can you imagine a democrat making these types of comments about Bush when he was president<< and the whole d... republican party the news media would have jumped down their throats in a second... Then the democrats would have back up so d... quick you would have believed that Blackwater was after them...
Bush , Cheney , Rove , Libby and other republicans committed treason and not only was there "NOT" a criminal charge brought against them,,, they refuse to testify about the issue..
Bush , Cheney lied their a.. off to go to war with Iraq and yet there has never been a charge against them or and apology for their illegal and criminal actions...
The list of Bush , Cheney , Roves and the republicans just keeps going on and there is never been a hint of an apology
The democrats censored moveon.org for their statement about Petraeus , yet you have Rush calling the American soldiers "Phony Soldiers".
And what happens......
***Rush Limbaugh was engaged in one of his typical rants. This rant was unremarkable and indistinguishable from his usual drivel, which has been steadily losing listeners for years – until he crossed that line by calling our men and women in uniform who oppose the war in Iraq ‘phony soldiers.’ This comment was so beyond the pale of decency that it cannot be left alone. And yet, he followed it up with denials and an attack on Congressman Jack Murtha, a 37-year active member of the Marine Corps.********
If you remember the democrats behind the scenes would make a democrat apology when even he would make the least type of statement about Bush or ones they would twist into saying something that was never the intent..
********President George W. Bush, Kerry's Republican opponent in 2004, said Kerry's statement was "insulting and it is shameful," and Republicans demanded that Kerry apologize*
*********So Kerry apology "I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform and I personally apologize to any service member, family member or American who was offended," said Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate in 2004.****************
motherfucker needs to stfu, keep his nose outta politics, and take some damn acting lessons for chrissakes!
The best thing this self-important twat ever did was play second fiddle to Dustin Hoffman in a good movie 40 years ago, and he is the best the GOP can come up with? Chuck Norris has more juice than this tired old thing. Sheesh!
Hey, wait just a damn minute! Since when did the Reichwing start hanging around with those Hollywood types? I thought that the Left had that Albatross around their neck. Does this mean that the neo-CONS are now in the Clinton clique? I'm so confused!!
AJ and Pitt
You haven't lived until you've seen Jon dance on the Chabad telethons...
..that is why all NEOs think that we have to push people around and act like big bullies in order to accomplish peace..
It worked so well the last 8 years, hasn't it, Jon?
Again, Repubs are so stupid, they are campaigning 4 months into a new administration...lol
Well, Jon, you guys can shout/whine and complain all you want. However, that doesn't change the fact that America bitched slapped you and your policies back to the stone ages!! bwhahahahaha!
Man. Some people's brains are screwed up.
BTW - i never liked him in his gay cowboy movie but Hoffman was fantastic. "Hey, i'm walkin' here!"
i appreciate jon voight putting the rightwing disinformation in as easy-to-swallow pill.
in such a tight statement he is able to cobble together some of the rightwing's favorite ahistorical disinformation memes. and, that my friends, takes some serious skilz.
so, if obama is a "soft-spoken caesar" (whatever the fuck that means), does that make bush a dull caligula? or, better yet, a thick nero?
Poor George!
I can see why Angelina Jolie no longer speaks to her father, the Rhinestone Cowboy has truly become a real asshole.
Hey, Jon, you're ass-kissing the wrong party. What a putz.
FIFY
It just amazes me who the GOP uses as spokes people. This man lost it years ago, his own daughter doesn't speak to him and he hates people who were abused by their parents. A man of values. He attacked Rosanne Barr in the nastiest way attacking her for being abused by her parents. Granted Rosanne didn't have flattering things to say about him but attacking her because beat her. You'll have to look it up. I couldn't find the actual quotes. And these people invited him and after his nasty comments about the POTUS they applauded him? Hey, I hear Charlie Manson is just sittng around these days if your looking for your next speaker. Simply sick people.
..they are bitter about getting their asses kicked this past November.
I still think they are in shock!
However, this is great! This is why moderates and centrist conservatives are running away from the GOP in droves. They will soon replace the libertarian party as the "3rd" party in America.
I just sit back and watch them self destruct.
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That was just pathetic. Voight may have had his good days, but they are way behind him now. They make fun of the President for using a teleprompter, this guy is an actor and he couldn't memorize his speech? I wonder if he wrote it himself?
Chris Matthews is continuing msnbc's shameless day long promotion of Joe Scarborough's new book. I think Joe saw an opening for the voice of the republican party and he's making a run for it with the free day long infomercial for his book. Hell, he has to take Mika along with him to book signings in order to draw any audience.
I think that Matthews pretty much gave The Morning Joke a spanking without Joke realizing it.
Good for Matthews if he did. I couldn't watch all the interview because I think so little of Scarborough I just couldn't stand to listen to him.
I agree with you 100%. When he came on I almost turned it off. I turned way down instead I I think I noticed that Matthews was actually trying to get Joke to commit himself to one side or the other on abortion and gay marriage (becasue Joke may run for the Florida Governor spot) but Joke was not biting and looked stupid. I hate the guy with a passion.
If Joe ran for anything down here in Florida, he would probably win the panhandle but that would be about it. I couldn't vote for him if he were the only person running. I haven't forgotten the things he said about then candidate Obama.
And will now fail as a republican. I love people like him, they are the one think keeping the GOP from getting new members.
He was great in The Deer Hunter....Oh wait, that was a good actor, Walken. He was good The Champ, unfortunately, after listening to this clip I think the blows he took in the movie were real.
you see, voight (in making up for his lack of man-meat) is desperate to show his fellow knuckledraggers that, he too, is as wargasmic as any
young actorother republican.if peace cannot be achieved through a little war profiteering, some indiscriminate torture, civilian deaths and the loss of US armed forces it just isn't worth it. ha! who am i kidding, voight hates peace.
really, jon voight NEEDS americans to die to feel that his mythical vision of america's place in the world is still alive in breathing (in his crazy mind)
But I can still see the crazy.
"Too much LDS back in the 60s."
Was that the dyslexic brand?
Not that she's got it all together either.
I think her pieces are closer together than his are. Hell, it would appear he's completely lost some of his pieces.
I've trade places with her any day. Voight, not so much. I'd sooner be wildly waving loon on the street corner, he's much more sensible.
I mean seriously, this was the best person they could find for their master of ceremonies or whatever the fu*k his title was? He looks and sounds like he might have left some rehab clinic right in the middle of his treatment for something really bad.
Isn't it interesting that they always bring up analogies that round-aboutly involve assassination? I suppose this way, they can encourage it, without being directly guilty in their "minds".
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really coddle and showcase their celebrity advocates. They have to, seeing that Hollywood is seen as a den of godless librul sodomites.
Yet another reason to move to Hollywood!
;)
I'm hoping that "normal" people* see what these assholes are doing and shake their heads.
*Anybody other than the 21%ers that still call themselves Republicans.
…I’d swear he was talking to a room full of 5yos. Weeee. Let’s use playground analogies. Geeeeesh.
of the Republican party should be the true indication that they are WAY off track. These are the last of the die-hards. These are the people with pictures of Ronney in their houses.
Talk to your audience as though they are slow, because they are slow.
Fuck Voigt. Guess I won't be watching any of his movies, ever again.
They let loose their little brain and stuff just comes out.
In this case it was more sad and crazy than funny, but it you know what I mean.
For real funny stuff, has everyone caught Craig T. Nelson with Glenn Beck recently.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/29/glen...
Craig worries that nobody is responsible anymore, he says if a company fails, it should go bankrupt. He goes on to say that when he was down on his luck, nobody helped him, all they did was give him food stamps and wellfare, but no help.. :)
Nelson's quote has to be one of the all time stupidest sentences ever uttered. He was so stupid he didn't even realize what he said even after he said it.
Ready, fire, aim.
I used to like Nelson....no more Coach or Poltergeist for me.
Or Flesh Gordon?
When was the last time anyone paid him to act?
No wonder if you pay him, he'll say anything.
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I would guess he is closer to doing ads for minty fresh smelling Depends.
he has some gig with michael bay (fuck you michael bay) and gets to play president in transformers...or is it a general...something like that
he also gets to play nick cages dad in the national treasure series...he even got to kiss helen mirren
i think she sanitized her mouth right after that scene
something made him go wacky during the 80s....not sure what it was
He was great in Runaway Train. But with his current compatriots he should be re*welded back into his prison cell.
The old "I used to be a Democrat, but since 9/11 I outraged by Chappaquidick" deal.
"Everybody's talkin at me"
he thinks Obama's wants to be another Julius Cesare, and I think he want's to boink his daughter...
Now where's the evidence?
i really wonder what happened to voight
during the 70s he made progressive movies and was a progressive voice
then he went insane
he's an actor and he stuck to the script of republican talking points.
...although, I know it's easy to do.
Attack his message of strength through a loud mouthin non-sensical blabbering(Chenney) and peace through nation building.
Heck, we even ran off our "allies" during the last adminstration.
If that is what you call a successful foreign policy, then the GOP is in for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNG right as the minority party.
He made the decision to speak at that dinner so he is fair game.
..this is what they do. So, there is no reason, to stoop to their level.
Let them be the childish party. American handed over command to us "libruls" for a reason.
Yeah, but they didn't say we couldn't call a spade a spade when we saw one or at least have a little fun with someone who is making strange comments about our President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm2iNNqj2fQ
Jon Voight... Voight... I know I've seen him in something... what was he in? It's on the tip of my tongue... It's right there! Arrgh, this is driving me crazy!
(A couple of college-age students could probably be heard to say, "Oh, yeah, that's Angelina Jolie's old man! He was in Tomb Raider with her." before going off on a tangent of what a babe she is.)
This is how bad the republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel when no other conservative celebrity (and there are some with a lot more name recognition than Voight) want to be seen on stage with the current crop of GOP leaders.
Cheney could put his hand up Morton's ass and talk out of the side of his mouth like he does anyway.
Jon sounds like someone who has lost his mind.
Remember at the beginning of the last presidential campaign several of the republican candidates chose movie people or tv people to endorse them. I remember Huckabee had that red haired guy that I had never heard of and then I think McCain and Thompson got one too.
I'm waiting for the Wingnuts to tell these Hollywood types that they should keep their mouths shut and just make movies. Like they did whenever a liberal actor or actress spoke out against the Bush.
And just think he almost got it in the mouth in Deliverence. Damn you Burt Reynolds.
Obama just doesn't have that fist pumping action figure swagger that Bush had.He doesn't salute as smartly stepping off A.F.O. or affect those charming Cowboy Colliqualisms that always had the press core fawning like love struck school girls no matter what criminal action or embarrassing gaffe Bush fumbled his incurious way into.
Couldn't Obama stop thinking and feeling so much and ratchet up the psychotic threats a notch or two?Surely there's another shitty little country out there America can pound some democracy into?
Why is it that when a Democratic entertainer voices their political opinion, the right wing Republican whackos start screaming like raving maniacs, and when a Republican shoots off their mouth with the vile that Jon-boy did, the Republicans embrace him and put him on all their right wing talk programs? They've practically silenced Barbra Streisand which is the way they want it. But bring on the redneck druggie Ted Nugent or other Democrat bashers and give them 1/2 to full hour chances to spew their vitriol. Jon Voight is another has- been in need of attention, he could never generate it with his own ability. Sorry Jon but Bo Derreck tried it and you can see how much good it did her career. Jon will probably end up as a regular on the Bill O'Reilly's Entertainment Show on the Fox Propaganda Network, along with another has been loser Dennis Miller who is also sad and pathetic.
Because they're whiny children who can't stand to hear anyone disagree with them. They pule about the First Amendment, but only when it's THEIR opinions supposedly "being stifled". When it's anybody else, then it's OK, because only the Rethugs are patriots and everyone is a SCUM.
What do you expect from moral infants?
and has been known as a wingnut for years
he wont lose out on roles...he doesnt carry movies
miller had lost his audience before he became a wingnut...and he is only one so he can have a gig doing radio
Jon Voight, Chuck Norris, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, Dennis Miller, Charlton Heston, Ahnuld...
...Hollywood values not American values!!!!
I haven't seen Obama's cup yet.
I had no idea he was bugfuck bananas. Guess I should pay more attention.
Voight is on BillO's show right now. He's giving his "expert" opinion on the economy and of course pissing on the President.
who are political?
"...liberal Hollywood elite..." with a sneer in his voice springs to mind.
STFU!
That was poetry, man.
I thought about a Haiku, but settled for an acronymic verse. :>)
"That was poetry, man." Nice play on words...
i pray that newt wins the repuke nom for president in 2012
i want all the right wing christians to then explain how a man who was fucking some intern while his wife lay in a hospital bed...then fucked a secretary on her desk while his second wife was at home...is now the leader of the party of family values
and i want voight to go around campaigning for him
just so we can see angelina make ads for obama...
thank you god
That'd be real hoot.
The right wing deity party might think of Voight as a voice of reason, but, then again, they also think they talk to God.
This is a bit off topic but BillO just accused an Oklahoma judge, he thinks should be removed from the bench, of being "apathetic". My dictionary defines apathetic as lack of emotion. Isn't this the opposite of empathy (the ability to share in another's emotions)? Isn't empathy what Bill and others say Judge Sotomayor shouldn't have but the judge in Oklahoma should have?
Oh BillO, you got some 'splainin' to do.
Liberators of the world? Seriously? I need some of the drugs he's on.
Actually it was the one-two punch of Russia and England not rolling over for the Nazis that won the European war.
And WWI and WWII both had US presidents that were Democrats, who wrapped up their wars in less time than boosh did Iraq.
Sorry, I thought he was speaking of "now". I didn't watch the clip as I have a sensitive stomach.
Oh wow, check out the size of his Adam's Apple!
...has something of a new career playing bad guys nowadays. "Mission Impossible" and "Enemy of the State" being two of those roles.
Is he reverting to type?
right.
under the spreading chestnut tree.
lovely family, a gorgeous husband, yet she has *this man* for a father. I wonder if he's shitting his pants that his six grandchildren thru her probably have a ton of "socialist" playmates out there in Hollywood?
From what I heard he may have abused Angelina in some way at one time...
seeing as Obama is distantly related to Brad Pitt. And he shouldn't insult his former in-laws. Ok, he hasn't yet, but I'm doing a premptive strike before he attacks Angelina's mother's cousin Hillary Clinton!
/ end Presidential genealogy trivia
I think it will happen. I think Angelina will look
at her dithering daddy and, after vomiting, will
announce her run for Obama's old senate seat...
after Burris resigns, that is.
He's nuts. Hell, if he was my father, I'd run in the opposite direction, too.
It's one thing when a celebrity is educated on a given subject, and can speak about said subject with knowledge, and concrete facts. It's an entirely different story when a celebrity knows nothing, yet pontificates as if they do, ie; Jon Voight. Some people should just stick with their craft, and stay out of politics.
I will give him this, though - he's a consumate actor - he stuck to the GOP script perfectly!
reminds me of the spaz -fest that was the Mclaughlin Group this week.
Joe Scarborough is another one who thinks he has the answer. He went on Hardball today to talk about the GOP getting back to things like states' rights.
The problem is, Joe is completely for states' rights.
Check out the hypocrisy in this clip.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=1692
His daughter bailed on him.
My thoughts exactly!
Get back on the bus, nutbag.
Is his money. He's under the delusion that his taxes will go down if Newty gets in office.
This coming from an a-hole who thought a good career move was to star in a movie about a giant CGI snake with J-Lo and Ice Cube. Jon Voight is disgusting.
One of my favorite books by Michael Parenti is The Assassination of Julius Casesar. He makes a very convincing case the Casesar was killed because he was doing too much to help the average Roman at the expense of the wealthy oligarchy.
I hate and disrespect celebrities in general. I don't give a shit what this waste of skin has to say.
I would like to announce the upcoming schedule of addresses to the GOP:
the topic will be family values, led by Palin and her knocked up out of wedlock daughter,
Gingrich's heartfelt conversion that led him to serve divorce papers while his wife was battling cancer in the hospital, and
Voight on the character it takes to cheat on one's wife and leave one's family and kids, and how it helps make them self-sufficient.
fuck
Voight == turd.
No disrespect meant toward turds.
Is it insanity or cunning? They've successfully appropriated Jack Bauer as a rationalization for torture that mainstream America then digested without question. Now using this blowhard to invoke an historical figure who met a malevolent end... hmm. About as subtle as GW's flippant (I believe intentional) use of "crusade" following 911.<
This crosses a very thin margin between coarse political discourse, and connotative treason.
Voit is a fool to dismiss the power of the spoken word to help create a climate, be it good or bad. Words have power. Effective speaking is a very important part of leadership. We live in a global community now and I am glad that Obama is speaking on my behalf as opposed to someone as inept at articulating a point as our last president George W. Bush. In fact, I cannot think of anyone better than Obama to speak on my behalf to the global community. What a relief. I suspect Voit is concerned more about how much extra tax he may have to pay under Obama than he is that Obama is soft on foreign policy. The stronger one is the softer one has to talk because everyone already respects you. Bluster is a sign of weakness. Speak softly and carry a big stick. And don't fabricate transparent lies to justify your actions.
Voight is a complete joke , obviously has small penis syndrome as do most of the Repug males and is a paranoid coward , someone please give this guy a white smock and a butter fly net .
I think that bringing world leaders together in play ground and having swing each other back and forth is a fine and worthy idea.
face or mind, is there?
BBwwwaahahahahhah!!!!
What a tool!
Julius Cesare was assasinated
So what is it voight's suggesting?
Wasn`t here some cheesy reality show -where the- washed up- Jon Voight could've been on to make money instead?
Angelina Jolie you have plenty of money…get your whacked out -former star- dad -some help before he hurts himself ……
Does the GOP have anyone saying anything meaningful?
No?
Didn't think so.
But Bush was Tiberius, so Julius Caesar is an improvement. Not enough of an improvement that we will necessarily avoid our Caligula, but an improvement.
But overall he was a great emperor. Bush has the distinction of being one of the presidents of the USA without a single positive policy to his name.... not a single one. Tiberius left the empire relatively stable and prosperous. Bush manage to get one of the most spectacular economies in history, and turn it into the worst recession in almost a century.
John knows that he's not in character anymore, right?
He sounds like the guy he last portrayed on "24".
...such as in Anaconda, Baby Geniuses 2, Bratz, and An American Carol.
Stephen Baldwin had prior commitments, people. Give poor Jon a break.
Jon Voight has added immeasurably to the snake film genre, which has so enriched American culture and been a successful export for our dominant economy in these troubled times.
Compare his haunting performance in Anaconda to the pedestrian performance of Samuel Jackson in Snakes on a Plane.
This makes me rethink my partisan affiliation and glad I have not watched television for the last eleventeen years.
Julius Caesar was a leader who respected his people and loved his nation. He was murdered by the SENATORS because he tried to share the wealth of the nation. If anyone would carefully study his life they would see that there is a lot to learn in this Caesar's life.
However, I am sad to say President Obama is a far cry away from being a Julius Caesar.... Caesar being the better man.
Don't miss the opportunity to read Michael Parenti's book on Julius Caesar. "The Assassination of Julius Caesar, A People's History of Ancient Rome". A most EXCELLENT accounting of the story.
In most countries, a comparison with Julius Caesar would be taken as a compliment... with him (Julius Caesar) being one of the top military leaders and strategy genius of all time.
They have tons of cash and they are assaulting the airwaves with attacks. If you listen to what most are saying, it comes down to nothing less than aggressive intolerance toward the world and its people. They are advocates of manifest destiny whereby anything and everything is there for the taking with absolutely NO accountability to anything except how much money it will make. This mindset is hopefully dying, but it is desperate and the big money, that depends upon people who are easily intimidated and frightened, is now coming out and buying massive chunks of airtime. STAND STRONG BROTHERS AND SISTERS!
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