Judge Napolitano: If our gun rights hadn't been taken away, 9/11 would never have happened!
Apparently, the job of filling in for Glenn Beck comes with a wingnuttery quotient proviso. Because yesterday on Beck's show, Judge Andrew Napolitano made sure he filled his.
Napolitano started by complaining that it was "progressives" who were arguing that we had to give up our liberties in order to obtain security. Come again?
What exactly did we hear from the American Right during the eight years of George W. Bush's nonstop assaults on civil liberties -- ranging from wiretapping citizens to using torture to using military tribunals to try American citizens? Oh, that's right -- we heard that opposing these measures meant we hated America and cared more about terrorist rights.
It's true that Napolitano opposed the wiretaps and the torture. But is he now claiming that these were progressives who argued they were necessary?
In any event, the real capper came shortly after:
Napolitano: Can the government keep us safe? I don't think so. I think airline travel is safer today because pilots have guns, because cockpit doors are now like bank vaults, and because the passengers have become courageous. All this was done by individuals, in the private sector, and not by the government.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: If the feds had not stripped us of our natural rights to keep ourselves safe by keeping and bearing arms, 9/11 would never have happened!
Come again, again? Napolitano seems to think that if everybody on board those planes had been permitted to pack heat -- which is the scenario he seems to envision here -- we'd all have been a lot safer.
Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Just let everybody bring their guns on board. That'll make us safer. Uh-huh.
Maybe Napolitano is arguing that only pilots should have been allowed to pack heat. But that would not exactly be consonant with his complaint that the feds had taken away our "natural rights" to carry guns.
All I can say is that if the airline system were insane enough to follow his suggestion and let everyone exert their "natural rights", I'd be exerting my natural right to take a train or a bus.
spark up a grit onboard as well. But it still didn't help William Shattner either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhk4HcxhZQM
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
the Government being the only armed ones? If so you are sheep.
Yeah, we definitely don't want the Government being the only armed ones. Maybe this is the clip that gave the judge his inspiration?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68xSoecsoq0
up to me I could stop your stickups and your skyjackings tomorrow. How? Arm all your passengers. Pass out the pistols and the beginning of the trip a pick 'em up at the end. Case closed." Noted airline security expert, Archie Bunker on gun control.
the quickest draw gets off the plane at the end of the trip - everyone else not so much. I hear some religious cults are very quick.
that's a great clip.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I think he was talking about the gun control laws in New York City.
If everyone in the WTC had of been armed there is no way those cowardly hijackers would of had the nerve to fly into them.
A weapon is useless if your opponent draws first.
I would love to hear all about explosive cabin decompression on the news.
That is the thought that goes through my head every time I hear someone bringing up the subject of guns on airplanes. I tell you these people know zero about the Constitution other than the first amendment (which they think only appies to them), and the second (which they misquote anyway).
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
The Republican is brain dead. The hijackers would have put a bullet in everybody's heads and then crashed the planes.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Just another example of Faux News playing to the crass ignorance of their wingnut viewing base. Immoral shills like Beck and Napolitano stir up these retarded pondlife then sit back and watch the $$$ roll in from the corporations who have made an artform out of bilking and milking these mindless dolts. Just another regular day at the office for the dispicable media whores at Faux.
doesn't that mean that the terrorists would have been able to pack heat as well?
absolutely! Freedom!
The Republican is brain dead.
I bet he's packing heat right now.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
somebody declare POX Republican Theatre dead
OK, i will... i hearby declare that the POX network is now officially and fully brain dead. you may now wish to pull the plug in the name of humanity...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
to fly with a loaded gun.
On jets?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Too, no one wants to see me packing heat. No, really. Trust me. A Ruger, double-action revolver does not go well with polyester/wool blend slacks and an acrylic sweater.
A whole bunch of stressed-out and often intoxicated passengers, with slug-throwers, in an aluminum-skin pressurized cabin at 40k feet.
That's gonna work out real good. Nothing could possibly go worng...
elect judges don't you?
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Faux doesn't care whether it is a lie or the true. Their goal is to get their base riled up. Nobody would be insane enough to let people including terrorists on a plane with automatic weapons and explosives. So he only said it to get the gun nuts upset.
Yeah, 9-11 never woulda happened if darth chainey just used his wittle bb gun to shoot airlines out of the sky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOXpyhM2wA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Shorter Napolitano: You can't tell me what to do. I'll indulge my incurable paranoia by packing a gun anytime, anywhere, anyplace, and I'll shoot first and ask questions later.
This bizarre clown is a danger to society and needs to be in a high security mental ward under sedation.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
Scary, isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM
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a surface to air missile!
it will keep us safe and prevent 9/11/01!
"I've said it before, I'll say it again: If the feds had not stripped us of our natural rights to keep ourselves safe by keeping and bearing arms, 9/11 would never have happened!"
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If it wasn't for religion "9/11 would never have happened". What about Oklahoma city bombing, Olympic park bombing in GA...
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I wish I had the energy to review this guys judicial decisions. He gets his theories from the dark ages. Anything goes with these folks, barbaric I tell ya.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
The shootout at the O.K. Corral seems to be the scenario a lot of the NRA gun nuts love to think about... actually I'm sure they envision the scenario of John Wayne taking out 5 guys with his six-shooter before they even have a chance to draw their guns and they think all gun owners would be that awesome with their guns.
I'm not anti-gun too much (A fully automatic weapon has NO civilian use, but rifles and hand guns are fine), but the NRA seems to get physically aroused by guns which isn't even close to being healthy. Anyway, I digress.
Seriously, guns on planes isn't exactly a safe scenario. Shoot out a window on accident and cabin pressure will be shot and A LOT of people will die.
Apparently the bar you have to pass to be on Beck's show as a guest host is functionally retarded and/or batshit insane. Beck has some big crazy shoes to fill after all.
become so stupid that even the stupid recoil from the stupidity?
This may be it!
What was farce when Archie Bunker gave voice to it 35+ years ago has now become what is considered another option for right-wing knuckleheads.
Screw it! Let's arm everybody.
Got a problem in the boardroom? Who's the quicker draw?
Traffic dispute? Who can get the gun out of the holster faster?
Babysitter want to get paid tonight because she has a date? Shoot the B!%$& and get back to your family.
At that point, it becomes totally logical to arm everyone in a long, metal, pressurized tube, 35,000 feet in the air going 500+ plus miles an hour.
As someone noted earlier, what could possibly go wrong?
This guy was a judge? Where? Serbia?
Maybe it's too bad that they don't allow everyone, including the defendant in a case, to carry. Maybe then I wouldn't have had to listen to this idiocy.
JESUS!!!
...and what do you know? It was:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYXIjQM4Mkg
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Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
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Dear Judge Napolitano,
Just when did the Federal Government "stripped us of our natural rights to keep ourselves safe by keeping and bearing arms"?
Perhaps you can cite the case law and Supreme Court ruling making these facts, factual. Or, perhaps you can name the legislation that stripped us of these natural rights?
Because we all know, just because you say so, does NOT necessarily make it so. Your facts need to meet up and agree with reality for you to be believable. Either that, or you're verifiable insane. Or, an opportunistic LIAR.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.
but Judge Napolitano handed me a gun!
...I asked him for mercy
He gave me a gun...
Samson and Delilah Grateful Dead
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQeWvFPb5zA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Here in GA in 2008 there was a case heard in federal court in which a group sued to be able to take their guns into the airport in Atlanta, but the jusdge ruled against them. The outrage they displayed over the judge's ruling was similar to seeing a kid throw a tantrum in a grocery store when mom tells him/her that they can't have that cereal they saw advertised on teevee because it's not healthy for them. I live in a state where guns are worshiped more than the Bible that these bozos say they revere. The solution to every problem is pull your gun and blow the offender's head off on the spot, no constitutional rights are accorded to the accused, ever. Instant execution of the accused by hanging is the second most popular solution to crime.
Say it with me, everyone: PROJECTION! Plain and simple. Nothing else. It's the argument they've been making ever since their most happy day, Sept. 11, 2001. "You don't have civil liberties if you're dead," said one of their ilk.
Yes, and the Republicans are the only major party to fasten an addendum onto that truism: We're all endowed with the right to pursue happiness unless you're gay, atheist, Muslim, liberal, female, a pot smoker or named Clinton.
Actually, from "Nature and Nature's God," as Jefferson actually wrote, which many in the Continental Congress didn't like because they understood Jefferson was an agnostic deist. He acquiesced to allowing the words "divine Providence" at the end of the Declaration, figuring it didn't make much difference how they wrote it, as long as it wasn't sectarian or establishmentarian.
Very true. So close Gitmo; try terrorists; no more warrentless wiretaps; etc. You need to get off Beck's program and switch parties, Judge.
The most vocal people asking us to "balance liberty and safety" are crazy, cowardly, right-wing authoritarians.
And you know it, asshole!
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
^5
Yes, absolutely!
The far right is famous for projection and to them the only right worth preserving is the right to bear arms.
Typical bullies.
If he were, he would not have made such an ignorant comment. Fire a gun inside an aircraft at 35,000 feet and 200 people die, not one.
Can I get a tax rebate when I purchase my bullet proof vest? Interesting statement coming from a judge. Only two places I have to walk through a metal detector. When I board a plane or whenever I get anywhere near a court of law. Why did your peers feel the need to install them when they already have armed guards?
"Why did your peers feel the need to install them when they already have armed guards?"
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Fox News is just satire. It has been one gigantic riff, like Orson Welles' fake UFO crash times a million. Future generations will look back on Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, et al. they way we now look upon Monty Python or Christopher Guest -- as comedy geniuses.
..miscreants, dolts, liars, seditionists, traitors, ugly bags of water, is more likely. I would never lump these idiots with geniuses of any type.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
There have been multiple assassination attempts and plots on Presidents of the United States; there have been over 20 known attempts to kill sitting and former Presidents as well as Presidents-elect. Four attempts on sitting Presidents have succeeded: Abraham Lincoln (the 16th President), James A. Garfield (the 20th President), William McKinley (the 25th President) and John F. Kennedy (the 35th President). Two other Presidents were injured in attempted assassinations: then former President Theodore Roosevelt and then sitting President Ronald Reagan.
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This disingenuous ass, along with his fellowship, know they'll eventually get someone on the edge to fulfill their fantasies, and they just sit back and say it was a crazy person as they silently gloat.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
He's talking about the government that walked out the door a year ago and the lag behinds in Congress blocking everything the new government tries to fix.
This man was actually a judge??? AMAZING111
pennlady
I'm sure someone already said this, but my understanding is if one discharged a weapon in the cabin pressurization of a jet in flight, that would be sufficient to bring the jet crashing down.
In the future, terrorists won't need to make a bomb, just claim they have one, and every one playing wild wild west will do the job for him.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
that whole sudden decompression thing is a myth, at least from a bullet. It just creates a small hole in the skin, or possibly a stringer. Small hole, small leak. Planes are constantly leaking air thru the outflow valves to maintain a given interior altitude. The valve would just shut a little bit more to compensate.
Even if you hit a window, it's 2 layers of plexiglass, it'll penetrate but not blow the whole window out. Even if the whole window is blown out (talking about passenger windows, not the windshield), a person's butt (or some other object) will block it. Even if nothing blocks it, pilots are specifically trained for rapid decompression and will lower the nose and get down to a reasonable altitude (10,000 ft) for survival in under 10 minutes.
And the max descent rate starts out very high until you reach Vne then you have to make it more shallow.
yeah he's a little over the top here...
I don't like guns on planes, (maybe a low caliber-low velocity one for the pilots...
too many guns on one plane is...not a good thing...
maybe the judge means the pilots?
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
No the terrorist won' be packing. There won't be any terrorist because we are going to implement racial profiling and we'll keep them off the planes. Plus we're going to deport all of them.
... for the pilots of any plane on which I am a passenger to be FLYING THE GORRAM PLANE, not pretending to be John Wayne, Steven Segal, Chuck Norris, Harrison Ford, or whomever.
The cockpit is no place from which to stage an assault or hold a courageous 'last stand'. A reinforced door is to make it difficult for the terrorists to get in, and to keep the pilots safe and in control of the plane.
how are they going to be the fantasy action heroes that keep the judges dreams wet at night?
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If bush had no been appointed emperor 9/11 might not have happened.
Really bush was in vacation mode as soon as he go appointed.
He told the briefer ok you coverd your ass.
If we had a real president instead of that idiot maybe they would have been cought before they got on the plane.
But it conviently became the excuse to head to the middle east for soem pillage and plunder. God damn it was just perfect! It could not have been any better if they had planed it!
...to find wingnuts on Faux! Why is anyone surprised when these fools spout this bullshit on Faux? That's really all that network is about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gf8NK1WAOc
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
... does he do the same thing in the UK and Australia? Whip up populist nonsense and race hatred?
Or are Americans just remarkably stupid and easily sold on drivel like Hannity and Beck, or assume that because some primping buffoon is in a suit and tie like Wallace or Hume, they must know what they're talking about?
I have never been there. I have been listening to skeptic zone podcasts that originate in Austrailia. They report that they have their share of wingnuts down there. Especially of the FundalMENTAList persuasion and give examples where the media has been really ignorant.
When Murdoch goes, I will make an exception.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Archie Bunker proposed arming all airline passengers years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM
OK, it makes good sense for all passengers to be armed at all times and their guns drawn into straight-armed firing position during a flight.
But what if the terrorists are flying, say, a commandeered aircraft attacking the airliner? In that case, hand guns would be useless.
If TSA gave a rat's ass about airline safety, they'd hand every passenger a Gatling gun before they got onto an airliner.
Here's why:
If a terrorist is on the plane and tries to take it down or hijack it, they'll be reduced to a wet, bloody pulp with one burst from any passengers Gatling gun.
Now, if a terrorist borrows a jet from his BFF Obama, say, and tries to take down a commercial airliner, well-armed passengers can rip open the emergency exit doors and let them have it with an awesome cascade of automatic machine gun fire.
Yeah! That's what America is all about!
"... borrows a jet from his BFF *OBAMA* ..."
If Reagan hadn't fired all the Sky Marshalls, I'll friggin GUARANTEE YOU 9/11 wouldn't have happened.
You have a citation or citations to fortify this claim? Did the US have sky marshalls in the air in the 1970s?
I've heard about his firing the Air Traffic Controllers, effectually ending all Unions pretty much, ironic since he was head of the SAG at one time, but not Marshalls.
But I wouldn't be surprised if he cut funding.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
What the hell does the mail have to do with this?
Also my mail comes at the same time each day... well except for Sunday.
Also, the airlines decided to put armored doors on the airplanes? Really? Really?
If it were up to the airlines the interior of airplanes would be made out of tissue paper because it would save a tenth of a gallon of fuel per mile
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
per CNN online. Of course, CNN-TV has to rerun the Larry King interview with Goughiani instead...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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couldn't have said it better:
(Was gonna post link, then saw one above. Ignore me.)
about the Hanes Hijacker ... and got yelled at ... ?
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The "Judge" is a shill and huckster of the highest degree. I am always amazed at his bizarre habit of changing positions, depending on his audience. If you hear him speak away from the nuthouse, he is actually fairly level-headed. As soon as he is speaking to the other members of the nuthouse however; he is full-on crazy.
He turns it on and off for his audience. When on Fox it is all paranoia all-the-time, that is their shtick after all. When not on Fox, he is actually quite normal and completely drops the paranoid act.
Archie said just this... "Arm all the passengers".
It was funny and ridiculous in 1972, and it's funny and ridiculous in 2010. The idiots of the world still have a big voice, eh?
United States of The Onion ....?
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This judge has it all figured out.
Why can't the airport security people see this? If everybody was allowed to bring liquids on board, everybody would be safe.
Why not bombs? What cowardly terrorist would dare set one off if he knew he himself might get blown up?
Bombs don't kill people . . .
What the hell can one even say ?
A FORMER judge....+
shit for brains....+
Fuck "news".=
There's the equation.
Do the math.
Your honor; I submit this film as proof that your former colleague judge Nopolitano, is not of sound mind and body. And that through the powers of this court, this sanity hearing will conclude that he must be put into a mental institution - so that he can be cared for, and not hurt himself or anyone else.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
He said everyone should be given a gun when boarding a plane, and then give them back at the end of the flight.
The Meadhead thought Archie has lost his mind. Again.
Great laughs from the studio show.
Of course, this was in the 70's.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
Right wing pundit calls 9/11 plane victims cowards!!!
EPN
I'm sure the common wisdom over the years has been, to paraphrase, "Don't fuck with the hijackers... until it's time to fuck with the hijackers."
Courageous he said... not more courageous.
Why do these wrong wingers keep looking to the past. Placing blame isn't what this is all about. The future is the way forward.
Cut taxes.
Yeah, that's the ticket. If taxes hadn't been so high, 9/11 wouldn't'a happened!
E Pleb Neesta
GODISNOWHERE
Blessed are the cheese makers.
"Janet Napolitano: If our gun rights hadn't been taken asay..."? I was like, "whaaaaaa?!?"
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