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Those upstanding nativists and xenophobes employed by the John Tanton Network -- and particularly the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which was designated a hate group by the SPLC awhile back -- have been complaining vigorously about how unfairly they are being treated. Why, they have nothing to do with the manifest racism swirling around the immigration debate -- so they claim.

But the recent arrest of Minuteman offshoot leader Shawna Forde for the murder of an Arizona man and his 9-year-old daughter -- part of a broader plan to rob drug dealers and use the money to finance their Minuteman operations -- has ripped the veneer off the fake walls these nativists use to pretend that they have nothing to do with the racists who seem to swell their ranks as though they belonged there naturally. (Funny thing, that.)

Back in 2006, you see, Forde appeared at a public "town hall" forum on immigration in Yakima, Wash., a central-Washington city whose main economy is agricultural, particularly apple orchards. As Jackie Mahendra at America's Voice notes, she was presented as a "spokesperson for FAIR" as well as the Minutemen.

As you can see from the video above, Forde was outrageously incendiary, accusing immigrants of bringing crime and disease to the state and costing taxpayers in health-care costs, particularly for their "anchor babies."

At one point, host Enrique Cerna asked Forde:

Cerna: Shawna, let me ask you about the issue of economics. You've heard constraints from growers, you know, that the apple harvest is very important in this state, particularly in this region. What do you say to the growers?

Forde: We've got a prison system. Let's utilize it.

She later wrapped up with this:

Forde: I'd like to see two things on there. Not just about the people who came here legally, and are here legally, but how about the Americans who have been affected and died because of the illegal invasion in our country? How about our sovereignty?

And securing our borders and protecting our nation is extremely important. And I know the Minutemen and many organizations will not stop -- we will start at the local level and work our way up -- we will not stop until we get the results that we need to have.

However, it was unclear to me if Forde really was a FAIR representative or whether she had just lied about that, as seems to be her pattern in many instances.

But in untangling the puzzle, what emerged was a clear portrait of FAIR officials commingling freely with Minutemen and the many seedy characters who occupy their ranks -- so much so that what they become is a "respectable" front organization for a ragtag bunch of thuggish nativists.

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I first contacted FAIR's national spokesman, Ira Mehlman, who happens to live in Seattle also. He absolutely denied that Forde had anything to do with his organization. When I told him that Shawna was represented as having been a spokesperson for FAIR, he said: "No, she wasn't."

Mehlman: I don't know who she is, I never heard of her, and she certainly wasn't speaking for FAIR. ... I have never heard of her name, never met her, never spoken to her.

So I then contacted Enrique Cerna, and asked if he could remember how it was that Forde came to be on the program, and how she was identified as a "spokesperson" for FAIR.

Cerna: She actually wasn't going to be on that show. They put her in there at the last minute. The fellow who originally was supposed to be on [Bob Baker, the state's FAIR representative]. What happened was that he wasn't able to make it ... and then they had to scramble on that day to find somebody, and then, I don't know how they picked her but they ended up picking her. And so, the day that we did it, it was kind of a last-minute thing. There were a lot of phone calls. So they put her in there, and we didn't really know a lot about her. And it was very quickly apparent that she was very, um, right-wing.

So I contacted Baker, who in 2006 was heading up an (ultimately unsuccessful) effort to pass a statewide anti-immigrant initiative. He similarly couldn't remember how Forde got picked for that show, but he said he was dismayed by her performance:

Baker: She did not represent FAIR. I am the state representative for FAIR. If that's how she represented herself, then she misrepresented who she was.

I called them -- at the time I was a reserve pilot. I was going to be on the panel, and I got called, so I couldn't be on it. I certainly didn't recommend her, I don't know how she got put on the panel.

Baker described his own experience with Forde, which included her being booted from the Minutemen. I asked Baker why Forde was removed, and he answered vaguely that she had tried to claim being spokesman for the Washington state Minutemen too, as well as other unspecified interpersonal issues the Minuteman leadership had with her. But he also spoke warmly about her:

Baker: She's very zealous towards the rule of law. You know, illegal immigration is systematically destroying our country. And she was just, like many of us -- you know, maybe she was a little too zealous, perhaps.

I then described to him the details of the crime she's charged with: Ordering a home-invasion robbery in which the victims, including two children, were to be gunned down so that there would be not witnesses. The result: a 9-year-old girl and her father dead, their mother wounded -- and a wounded member of the gang, shot when the mother fired back.

He said: "Ah, that's not her. She wouldn't do something like that. That's what a common criminal would do, right?"

Yes, well, it is. As I remarked to Baker: that's one helluva way for someone to show her zealousness for "the rule of law."

But then, that's something I've noticed about the anti-immigrant nativist Right in general. Seems the only "rule of law" they care about enforcing is the law that keeps out brown people.

The ADL has good backgrounder on Forde. Meanwhile, it appears her gunman, Jason Eugene "Gunny" Bush, is being charged with an old murder in eastern Washington. And it appears he may have been involved in the old Aryan Nations organization in northern Idaho, too. Swell:

Bush spent time in prison after the homicide for a variety of crimes, including auto theft, assault and weapons violations. After release he moved to Northern Idaho, and the Hayden Lake, where he lived until 2007, the affidavit said.

Wenatchee police "learned Bush has had long standing ties to Aryan Nations groups that commonly believe in white superiority over other races and have been known to be violent towards non-white races. He espoused these beliefs to associates in Wenatchee in 1997," the affidavit said.

You see, it isn't just an accident that the Minutemen have to constantly try to chase out their neo-Nazis. They draw them like flies for a reason. And we can all smell what it is.

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pcpablo's picture

Shawna enjoys picking apples!

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Mr. Green Jeans's picture

Charges were filed over the weekend against the shooter in the Arizona killings to another murder in WA state in 1997. He was charged with murder for that crime as well.

Here is the link to the Everett paper

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090616/NEW...


"Let's talk dirty to the animals"

liberalNmoderation's picture

That guy looks like a real genius doesn't he?
real critical thinker that one.

Mr. Green Jeans's picture

I grew up in the Flathead Valley in Western Montana. We were in and around Northern Idaho because of relatives. It was scary even in the 60's


"Let's talk dirty to the animals"

DamOTclese's picture

Aw come on, that guy's mugshot looks like a stellar member of the Master Race. LOL.

liberalNmoderation's picture

It NEVER fails does it...every last white supremacist asshole has either missing teeth and a small cranium...or that neanderthal-like protruding brow, inbred look.
Supreme indeed.

KWillow's picture

Oh, very good sir! Very good indeed! (I wish I'd thought of it)

liberalNmoderation's picture

the wingnuts are now assassinating people...
WE MUST ARM OURSELVES!!!

LeftandLeft's picture

God I hope that the Arizona prosecutor uses this mutt's own statements against her in her murder trial. That racist monster Joe Arpaio will have a heart attack.

DamOTclese's picture

I would hope that these people get tried in a State that still has and enacts the dealth penalty. I don't mind so much the murder these "Minutemen" scumbags committed of the older man (that's a life prison sentence) but killing 9-year-olds should be punishable by death.

BobD's picture

These people love to use 9/11 to justify their hate. She claims that we had "4 of the hijackers and released them and a week and a half later 9/11 happened." (1:30+)

Racist pigs.

sharksbreath's picture

Shawna. It's time for you to pick the apples.

showme48's picture

We need the immigrants, they actually work. what do we these assholes for?

liberalNmoderation's picture

I can't think of one damn thing...

blackpolitical's picture

Shawna Forde should get what she deserves, a long prison sentence, especially since she is no stranger to the inside of a prison cell. There should be zero tolerance for her actions, especially since a child was murdered as well.

http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com

curtilingus's picture

Something I try to tell people who are afraid of immigrants (they always seem to be white people) is that white people have taken more money from you, done more things to keep you down and disadvantaged than any Black, Mexican or any other target of your anger. A lot of the people who define themselves as being from "the greatest generation ever" have been responsible for the transfer of wealth between the classes.

Different Anonymous's picture
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Hey, my old stomping grounds of Yakeema in da house! Never thought I see that heckhole on the C&L, appropriate I suppose it's Ms. Forde who puts 'em on the map.

That "interview" was appalling. She comes off as one of the lower rung Limpbaugh callers - all bumpersticker, no car.

What is it with Hayden Lake? Her shooter and also didn't I read that the Holocaust Museum shooter spent time there as well? But they're all lone wolves, no conspiracy there...

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

No wonder their women are so cranky if the men need only a minute.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Would you spend more than a minute?

She's so ugly...she won't get sex in jail!


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

Mr. Green Jeans's picture

Her cellmate might turn out to be Big Burtha.


"Let's talk dirty to the animals"

Centrocitta's picture

.....No wonder their women are so cranky if the men need only a minute.....

LOL

liberalNmoderation's picture

n/t

dandelion's picture

Those foreigners need to "assimulate" into our society and learn English. Riigght.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

PATRICK's picture

our "drinking buddies" from the North come down here and take decent jobs.

liberalNmoderation's picture

With their good beer, politeness, and good grooming habits!
How DAAAARE they take our jobs!

PATRICK's picture

I believe that it's an insidious plot to undermine the american way with their better mortality rates, quality of living and access to health care. Al Qaeda couldnt do a better job of reaping converts. As soon as they start playing baseball and American football we'll all be downing Molson and eating back bacon and ending every sentence with an upward inflection signifying a question, eh?

liberalNmoderation's picture

I believe it started in the 60's with Dudley Do-Right....and then the propaganda film "Strange Brew"...and who can forget the weekly mind washing program SCTV?
I'm afraid it's too late PATRICK!
We're done for!
We must submit to our hoser overlords, eh?

PATRICK's picture

first i'm taking you to the looney bin then i'm going to the brewery, eh?

liberalNmoderation's picture

It IS too late!

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

liberalNmoderation's picture

of that song.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Al Qaeda reaps converts whilst we rape convicts.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

in other news's picture

YUCCHH!!

Centrocitta's picture
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PATRICK's picture

oh my. ...interesting comment...

BobD's picture

So,,,,, ALL Native American women are rude? Then you must be a Native American woman because that is one rude, ignorant bigotted comment!

Centrocitta's picture

......So,,,,, ALL Native American women are rude?......

Please tell me, BobD, how do you comprehend that the statement, "I never met a Native American female......" means ALL Native American females? Perhaps you didn't get an "A" in English like I did?

Tyler Durden's picture

... the tool of the intellectually dishonest.

Dude, you could just realize that what you wrote was pretty silly... but now that you are being a dick about it. I guess the benefit of the doubt is gone.

LeftandLeft's picture

Please stop digging.

LeftandLeft's picture

Maybe it was something about you...or your history.

liberalNmoderation's picture

Living in south florida, I know quite a few Seminoles, and they're fuckin cool as hell, the men and the women!

I agree, lNm. I lived in S. Fl for many years, and the Miccosukee women I met were all kind, gentle, and wonderful to be around.

liberalNmoderation's picture

Not alot make it down to the keys.
But there are several Seminole families here. And I'm good friends with one family.

calgarylady's picture

saved my dad's life when he was a little boy in the 1920's. He had a deadly foot infection which she cured using a mixture of buttercup petals, butter and multiples of three in a native healing ritual.

We can learn a lot from our Native American brothers and sisters. They have my respect.

Tyler Durden's picture

you sound like a real "keeper" LOL.

PATRICK's picture

I don't think she meant it maliciously, i think it was just poorly phrased and overly generalized. I'm not defending the statement but I think she had good intentions.

Alas I am fascinated by your response, what "good intentions" would those be, do praise tell? As I am a bit lost on how could an off topic post, full of insulting generalizations, be considered an evidence of "good intentions."

i guess i was so surprised by the nature of the comments that i probably have filled in some blanks in my mind about the poster that makes me think my 81 year old mother could make statements like that and mean it as a way to defend immigrants...you're right though, she is free to defend herself.

there i go again filling in blanks...there is no indication the OP was a woman.

Tyler Durden's picture

When in doubt, I tend to go with Occam's razor: and I assume people write what they mean. Since I am only able to read their comments, not their minds...

you're probably correct.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Sounds too me like cultural differences on the proper way to behave.

As for Mexican women being more genteel, that sounds like a desire for submissive women.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

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cobblepot's picture

She asks, "and what about their not assim-U-lating, and learning English"!!! As an obvious devotee of malapropisms, dear shawna could use some "learnin' English"!!!

Centrocitta's picture

.....She asks, "and what about their not assim-U-lating, and learning English"!!! As an obvious devotee of malapropisms, dear shawna could use some "learnin' English"!!!.....

Exactly! Obviously Shauna didn't get an "A" in English either. But I bet she thinks she's a heck of a lot smarter than a second-generation Italian-American.

Centrocitta's picture

Can't speak the English language but likely believes that immigrants are responsible for the dumbing down of America. Now THAT is really funny!

DamOTclese's picture

These domestic terrorists were in Baldwin Park three times standing on street corners and sidewalks holding signs and spewing hate. Local civil rights and human rights advocates turned out in much larger numbers and drowned those scumbag Gilchrist cultists out.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Alec or Stephen?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

DamOTclese's picture

D'Oh! My brain required half a million clock cycles before I figured out what you were saying. LOL.

They vowed to return to Baldwin Park, come to think of it, until the train station monument there was torn down. But they got their honkey asses kicked so bad by other honkeys like moi that they decided it would be best to pretend the monument was stollen by Roswell aliens or something 'cause they never returned.

eric_imagine2050's picture

David,

I’ve been curious as to how Fordes association occurred as well.

I wonder if Rosanna Pulido was suppose to be speaking on their behalf when she made the following statement http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/Content.asp... about the Catholic Church (listen at around 43 minutes in).

I wonder if they were adamant when their Western Regional Coordinator Rick Oltman was removed from his post for publicly agreeing with the beating of undocumented immigrants in Southern California (http://www.coastalpost.com/96/6/1.htm). Were they adamant when the white nationalists Council of Conservative Citizens named Oltman a member of their organization?

They didn’t seem too adamant when they hired Joe Turner who played footsie with hardcore neo-Nazis which you have written about in the past.

They don’t seem overly adamant about current board member and FAIR founder John Tanton who has associations with white supremacists amade several revealing statements over the years such as:

1. “Hitler’s reign in Nazi Germany did little to advance the discussion of eugenics among sensitive persons.”

– John Tanton, FAIR Founder and Current Board Member, The Case for Passive Eugenics

2. “These have generally been pushed by Jewish interests who are offended by those who have challenged the received version of the Holocaust.”

– John Tanton writing of European hate crimes laws. [Source: John Tanton Memo, March 14, 1995].

3. “It seems that the main market is in the orient – very interesting, considering that in general, male Orientals are less well equipped than those of some other groups.”

– John Tanton writing on male aphrodisiacs. [Source: John Tanton Memo, January 30, 1995].
4. “I’m sure it will give you a new understanding of the Jewish outlook on life, which explains a large part of the Jewish opposition to immigration reform.”

– John Tanton promoting an article written by anti-Semite Kevin McDonald of Occidental Quarterly a vicious anti-Semitic journal [Source: Letter to Mrs. C.S. May, December 10, 1998]

5. “Thanks for sending me the first five pages of the rough typeset of your newsletter. You are saying a lot of things that need to be said, but I anticipate it will be very tough sledding”

– John Tanton writing to Jared Taylor of the white supremacist group Council of Conservative Citizens [Source: Letter to Jared Taylor, October 10, 1990]

6. “I’ve been a reader of your materials for some time, and hope that we can meet some day. Is there any chance that you could come up and join us?”

– John Tanton inviting Wayne Lutton of the white supremacist group Council of Conservative Citizens to a FAIR event [Source: Letter to Wayne Lutton, June 10, 1991]

I suspect that what occurred is what always occurs when it comes to FAIR. The John Tanton Network continues to take responsibility for the bigotry that they sow every day in the media and in our communities. Sadly the person who was forced to reap this crap was an innocent nine-year old. Shame on FAIR.

They always seem to be adamant after the fact don’t they?

We've had to put up with this twisted, sick mentality in this country waaaay too loong. She's only one in a million, but you have to start someplace. Try her and put her behind bars where she belongs. Then we'd like to hear what the bitch has to say.

DamOTclese's picture

Amusingly here in SoCal some of the "Minutemen" a.k.a "Save Our State" cult leaders have been arrested a number of times for domestic assault, some of which were amusingly videotaped by screaming family members and posted to YouTube to "prove" that their fellow combatants started it all.

Financial frauds and domestic assults seem to plague these Republidiots.

They should done gone learnin the properfied speakingses.

Tyler Durden's picture

moved the labels from the fire settings from written English to pictorial form, the English of these knuckle draggers has deteriorated further... in a significant fashion. And I don't think it is a coincidence, since the firing settings were probably the most reading these nuts were doing all year long.

DamOTclese's picture

These neo-Nazis are an integrated part of the "Minutemen" and "Save Our State" scumbags. In Laguna Beach, California we got numerous photographs and videos of these people standing on street corners near Home Depo buildings waving Nazi flags and stiff-arm saluting people passing in cars.

On the neo-Nazi web site "Save Our State" the racists running the web site issued ordered to the people who subscribe to the discussion forum there telling them not to bring their Nazi phampletts, flags, and materials.

Other message postings to the SOS forums also instructed followers to try to distance themselves from those members who continued to bring their Nazi paraphenelia and hand-outs.

The supposition that these "Minutemen" and "Save Our State" (and whatever else they call each other) are anything but neo-Nazis has repeatedly been exposed to be lies by the mouths of their own followers.

My opinions only and only my opinions.

I wonder if orange will clash with her eyes.

DamOTclese's picture

Here in Orange County, as I recall it was, we had one of these "Minutemen" a.k.a. "Save Our State" people drive his car throiugh a crowd of civil rights advocates, running down a person, all of which was caught on video.

The local cops managed to stop the "Minutemen" / Whatever scumbag not too far away, holding him for less than 10 minutes before they let him go.

Advocates eventually matched his photograph to a known elderly white supremacist and returned to the police to file vehicular assault charges against the scumbag but the cops refused.

They refused to arrest him for running down people on sidewalks and they refused to file criminal charges against the scumbag -- becausxe the victims had brown skin.

That scumbag pile of shit is still out there because the cops refused to do their jobs. The Holocaust Museum Republican did what he did because cops refused to do their job, also.

My opinions only and only my opinions, as always.

lordkoos's picture

she's actually mentally ill, from from what I've read. Check out this article, she has a long history in Washington State.

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090613/NEW...

As far as Yakima, that's hilarious. I grew up 30 miles from there and the Yakima agricultural economy has depended heavily on the illegal labor of Mexican immigrants for at least 50 years.

At least she admits that illegals risking their lives to cross the border is OUR COUNTRY'S FAULT.

While demonizing illegals and hunting them down isn't the proper reaction, understanding that the government wants to have their cake and eat it too is a step in the right direction.

You cannot benefit from cheap illegal labor and crack down on migrant workers. It's not fair to your citizens or the workers.

Robt's picture

I will admit there are slivers of a log of truth on the immigration issues. Economics is one of them. The illegal entrance is another.
America as a nation does have many reasons to know its citizens.

I would bet money that Shawna Forde and her family line are not native to America. Her ancestry immigrated here at some point. Should she return to her home of origin? She has never learned to speak any native America language. Cherokee, Blackfoot?
Her ancesters took the land and pushed the natives out.

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