When the Minutemen 'go tactical' for dollars: Forde intended gang to rip off dealers, and may have struck in CA already
By David Neiwert Sunday Jun 14, 2009 8:00am
Logan already gathered most of the relevant early details about the remarkable case of Shawna Forde, arrested yesterday for ordering the murder of a 9-year-old girl and her father in Arizona.
My old friend Scott North, who has been around the block with reporting on the activities of the far right in Snohomish County -- where Forde is from -- reports this morning that Forde may have been involved in another violent home invasion in California already:
On Saturday, Arizona detectives were pursuing tips that members of Forde's group may have staged a home invasion robbery in Shasta Lake, Calif., on Monday.
The victims, friends of Forde's mother, reported being robbed at gunpoint of nearly $12,000 by two men who showed up at the door and presented badges claiming they were U.S. Marshals.
Truck driver Peter Myers, 48, said he recognized one of men who robbed him after he saw news reports about Forde's arrest and photographs of her co-defendants.
He said the man who directed the robbery in his home was Jason Eugene Bush, 34. The ex-convict from Eastern Washington is a Forde associate now accused of being the gunman in the Arivaca killings.
"That is the guy. He pointed a gun right at us," Myers said.
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Arizona officials have said Bush is recovering from a gunshot wound received during the home invasion there. Myers said that description fits the tall man who bound him with zip ties and then took cash from the family's lock box.
"He was moving real slow," Meyers said.
Forde's mother, Rena Caudle, said her daughter recently visited the area. After Friday's arrest, Caudle said she made certain that Arizona officials knew about the suspected link to the California robbery.
This may just be the tip of the iceberg with this gang. Already Jim Gilchrist, the Minuteman leader with whom Forde has had a long association, is making the signs of the cross in her general direction and declaring he had nothing to do with her:
Jim Gilchrist, president of the California-based Minuteman Project and a longtime Forde ally, made it clear Saturday that his earlier support of Forde should in no way be construed as approving the actions now attributed to her.
"Am I going to come to her support at this time? Of course not. How can I?" Gilchrist said.
Forde ran her own organization, Gilchrist said.
"Unfortunately, some people in this Minutemen movement have used this movement to carry out sinister agendas," he said.
We'll see. Investigators may not be done making arrests yet.
Indeed, it's starting to look as though Forde may have been organizing basically a low-rent version of The Order: an ideological army turned into criminal moneymaking operation. Only this time, anti-immigrant nativism instead of white supremacy is the ideological driver. And when The Order crumbled in flames, it exposed all kinds of criminal dealings on the far right.
North reported yesterday on Forde's background. He also conducted a long interview (see above) in which she claimed to be an important figure in the Minuteman movement. The problem, of course, is that you can't believe a word any of these people say:
Forde has a long and troubled history in Snohomish County, including juvenile convictions for felonies, prostitution and other street crime. Some of her past was recounted by The Herald in a profile that appeared Feb. 22.
Forde was at the center of a flurry of violence that began Dec. 22 when her ex-husband was shot in his Everett home. A week later, she reported being beaten and raped by strangers at the same house.
On Jan. 15, Forde was found in a north Everett alley with apparent gunshot wounds.
She claimed the violence was all retaliation for her activities targeting criminal groups operating on both sides of the border between Mexico and the U.S.
The cases here remain under investigation by Everett police.
Forde's ex-husband was seriously wounded during the Dec. 22 shooting. Reached Friday, he was distraught hearing that a child died. He declined to comment on his former wife.
Forde's mother, who lives in California, said she was not surprised to hear of her daughter's arrest.
Rena Caudle said Forde visited her before heading to the border this year. She talked of staging home invasions, Caudle said.
"She sat here and said that she was going to start a group where they went down and start taking things away from the Mexican mafia," Caudle said. "She was going to kick in their doors and take away the money and the drugs."
Caudle said she wasn't sure what to make of that at the time, in part because Forde has a history of exaggeration and lying.
Turns out, this time she wasn't.
Now, back in October, I published an investigative piece on the Minutemen -- financed by The Nation Investigative Fund and published in The American Prospect -- which warned precisely of this kind of devolution of the Minuteman movement:
Welcome to the world of the Minutemen, where all-American values provide a nice storefront for a financial black hole that vacuums up hundreds of thousands of donors' dollars. The group fits into a long tradition of right-wing political organizing that runs from the resurrected Ku Klux Klan of the 1920s to the tax-protest movement of the 1980s and the militias of the 1990s. In the end, these efforts are mostly scams: They serve up a heady concoction of jingoistic fervor, bigoted xenophobia, and paranoid conspiracy theories as a means to salve all that ails the patriotic soul--but largely they have the mysterious effect of separating their fellow right-wingers from their money. And as these groups dissolve into scandal and infighting, they leave far more radical splinter groups in their wake.
... Today the minuteman movement is beyond mere disarray; it is in the early stages of complete decay. The arc of the Minutemen's decline and fall happens to trace almost precisely that of previous right-wing populist movements, notably the Klan of the 1920s and the militias of the 1990s. The pattern goes like this: The group is beset by financial manipulators who seem naturally drawn to them. Then, following an initial wave of popularity, the group splinters under the pressure of competing egos into smaller, more virulent entities who then unleash acts of public ugliness and violence that eventually relegate them to the fringes.
The Minutemen haven't quite reached that final stage yet, but they are well on their way. And while that may be welcome news to those who oppose the Minutemen's nativist agenda, that last stage represents some natural and equally toxic consequences.
The broken promises and vicious infighting have meant, unsurprisingly, that the Minutemen's original mission---watching the border--has receded to the background. In 2007, the MCDC claimed some 2,000 volunteers at various border watches, though the on-scene reports indicated far fewer participants. In 2008, the activity dropped further, so that the annual April border watch attracted only a few dozen participants and no media coverage.
The Minuteman movement has fallen on such hard times that even Gilchrist has publicly admitted that he regrets the "Saddam Hussein mentality" within its ranks, particularly some of its smaller, independent offshoots. "Am I happy at the outcome of this whole movement? I am very, very sad, very disappointed," Gilchrist told The Orange County Register in June. His concern may have been disingenuous, but it was far from groundless. Over the past year, several incidents of violence have been associated with various subfactions of the Minutemen. Last summer, a couple of Minutemen created a video portraying the shooting of border-crossers--which they later admitted was a hoax but decidedly a reflection of their real attitudes. The men were in a group that had spun off from the San Diego Minutemen, itself an independent offshoot of the movement.
Considering that the Minutemen were largely built on the sort of nativist appeals long favored by racist organizations, it's no surprise that racist and white-supremacist elements have been entwined with the movement since its inception. Gilchrist and Simcox both made loud noises about weeding out racist members, though in reality their "background checks" were mostly shams and covert white supremacists were silently tolerated. But even the stigma against overt racism appears to be disappearing among their organizations' successors. One border-watch group, headed by a former Minuteman Project official named Laine Lawless, went so far as to indulge in an e-mail exchange with a neo-Nazi organization offering tips on how to harass Latinos the old-fashioned way: steal from them, beat them up, mistreat their children, make death threats. This behavior has started to infect the main Minutemen organizations themselves. The MMP's official Las Vegas chapter, Americans4America, recently co-hosted an anti-immigration strategy session with officials from the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens.
It's all part of the downward spiral of violence into which right-wing populist vigilante groups eventually descend. Now, I'm not claiming that spotting this in advance makes me particularly smart. In fact, it isn't rocket science. These groups have a long record of matching histories, and they all follow the same arc of flight. I'm just paying attention.








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will be dealing with the sharp rise in rightwing domestic terrorism over the next 8 years. These groups have always hated this country, but now that a Marxist, socialist, fascist, black man who pals around with terrorists (and, of course, is controlled by jews) is running the show it must feel intolerable to them.
the boomerang effect?
After 8 years of Bush and The Fear Mongers it's delightful.
don't want to accept that in order to compete with the Chinese they have to accept a $11 to $44 a month salary.
Aren't the globalists grand!
So anyway they haven't figured out it's not the liberal's that are destroying their way of life.
Wake Up!
...that this will do nothing toward ending our gov't's tacit collusion with these psychopaths?
Gilchrist and others have allegedly been repeatedly videotaped assaulting people at human rights and civil rights demonstrations in Southern California and when local police were allegedly shown video of such assaults, the cops either did nothing else arrested the brown victims.
I was at the three Baldwin Park anti-hate demonstrations against these hate mongers and while I also got some hate from the brown people I was with, far, far more hate came fromm the neo-Nazi "Minutemen" a.k.a "Save Our State" a.k.a "Aryan Nations" et al. people holding signs of hate.
On the demonstration lines there was some talk about just where such right wing extremist hate would be going and given the way the local police ignored assaults against brown people caught on video, we knew that eventualy they would start murdering brown people.
My opinions only an donly my opinions, as always.
A response posted in comment of an article on Shawna Forde back in February:
You pwned yourself.
That reads like the Tiller killing, that these extremist groups are recruiting those of lesser cognitive abilities to perform criminal acts like these, and then wash their hand of them when their caught
Like Al Qaeda.
That phenomenon is also perfectly demonstrated on a larger national scale, in Gingrich's claim that Sotomayor is a racist. He was SO adamant about it from the second she was nominated, and then all of a sudden backs off out of nowhere and says she's not.
So he can appear to remain above it, while also having just cast off the racism claim to his brainless cult of followers to carry.
It's classic republican politics. 'What, me? You don't see ME acting/behaving that way! Maybe some in our party are, but I'm not!!!'
Come to think of it, isn't that what happened to Lynne England?
he is done
"and a yearning for a civilized society ahead of avarice"
Riiiiight. Targeting "others" and killing bystanders in churches and museums and cops in the line of duty - is that really your idea of a civilized society?
You and the rest of the radical right wing own these actions, no matter how much you try to pretend otherwise.
Bite it at get the hell out of my state, and my country while you're at it.
Jim Gilchrist, president of the California-based Minuteman Project and a longtime Forde ally, made it clear Saturday that his earlier support of Forde should in no way be construed as approving the actions now attributed to her.
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Sounds like a letter to this morning's DMN complaining that the "biased" media is mischaracterizing the "Right to Life" movement by connecting it to Dr. Tiller's murder.
And he isn't racist either. As they try and distance themselves from these killers in just another minutemen group just remember these words:
"The Minuteman Project is proud to be a supporter of Shawna Forde’s Minutemen(women) American Defense (M.A.D.)"
There's a pot boiling over on this country, don't you know. And when folks like David Neiwert, by exposing the mainstream Right's ties to violent radicals, make it impossible for boil-over folks like Forde to raise money legitimately from the mainstream Right, of course they have to turn to home-breaking to raise money.
Once again, unassailable logic proves definitively, that this Forde person's criminality is all the fault of Neiwert and the Left in general!
This logic may make you laugh, but I would bet that about 2 seconds after this story gets any play in the MSM or Right blogosphere, we will get this same rationale from them, only with forays and twists that I would not put into my parody version because they would be too incredible coming from any source but the boobs themselves.
> make it impossible for boil-over folks like Forde
> to raise money legitimately from the mainstream
> Right, of course they have to turn to home-breaking
> to raise money
The motives of these people will eventually be touted by the extremist far right as golden, I would expect, claiming that murdering brown people and taking their "drug money" some how "saves" america and is a good thing, something that legitimate law enforcement should be doing but is being left to the far right extremists.
In the end it was another act of domestic terrorism egged on by the right wing radio talk shows, FOX Network traitors, and all the rest coming from the Party of hate.
Didn't Sinn Fein always claim innocense of what the IRA was doing?
and a positive and secure future they wouldn't be doing this stuff.
So-called "American corporations don't even need us (or them) anymore.
and how to live most of the time.
That's because the system teaches us from birth to be competitors and consumers.
Not creators. If people we're taught to create we wouldn't have these problems.
And that is why I am a dancer... we need more dancers, artists, musicians, and fewer/none hate spewing radio phonies...... I curse them
I'm a would be writer
But instead I'm always here.
It's livelihood, unless you were being snarky, of course.
I don't know if Evet was being snarky or not, but I'm not. Creative people don't tend to be destructive people.
Creative people find solutions.
Creative people brought us everything that is good about humanity.
Of course I'm saying all that because I'm a very creative person.
The right wing, on the other hand, doesn't have a creative person among them and they're never happy unless something is being destroyed or somebody "who deserves it" is getting killed.
"Deserves it" pretty much equals anyone they don't like which is pretty much everyone except them.
"The right wing, on the other hand, doesn't have a creative person among them"
I would/will contend, they create more or less then anybody else.
> The right wing, on the other hand, doesn't
> have a creative person among them
Remember their pathetic right-wing effort to try to match The Daily Show and the Colbert Report with some hate-spewing lackwit failure television show of their own? LOL.
At least the Three Stooges were funny and they had the typical Republican IQs.
You look into the eyes of someone that say's they are a republican what do you see? Insanity!
The smart ones won't admit being republican. The ones from the socalled think tanks are the most ignorant to everything human. While they seak well they have no honesty, no honor, no integrity. They are just extremely greedy, more then willing to lie, and to do their best to justify their narrow minded ideology as a value that people should live by,( while in reality the focus of everything they do is solely for self advancement at everyone elses expense)it is wholely unsustainable and not something that anyone should try to do. Yet these think tanks like the heritage foundation persist with their insane view of how they want it to be. Damn the consequences!
that is why I say, republicanism is a mental illness!
I’m sure Lou Dobbs will be all over this one, or maybe not.
words of support for these right wing terrorists?
These are ubermensch?
Amusing, huh? The Master Race seems to have suffered some significant genetic damage over the past 60 years.
Look at those designer frames she's wearing! Those right there are some yuppie, liberal, latte-sipping frames.
You don't see nobody with a right-thinking worldview wearing those there glasses!
It's another secret librul, I'm telling ya. They're gonna destroy the republican party before this is all said and done!!!
Yeah, aren't those Janeane Garofalo glasses? Get Jesse Watters on the line!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUYiX_TIh5E
but isn't Gaxiola hispanic? Why the fuck would he want to join the Minutemen? I'll tell you one thing, he's not going to be very popular with his fellow latinos in the prisons down there.
Portugese. But even so, you know the old "I got mine..." crowd.
ask florida cubans why they support boosh. I bet you'll get similar answers.
These right wing groups manage to acquire an occasional brown-skinned person through various means, knowing that there is always a certain percentage of any population that is dumb enough that they'll side against themselves.
It's extremly rare to see a self-hating Hispanic palling around with neo-Nazi racists since eventually they wake up, note the snide comments and the way these right wing extremists are laughing at them, but there's always a few.
My opinions only, as always, and only my opinions.
Nawwww, she couldn't be right.
Not the GOPers. They don't do stuff like this. Never!
As for the supposed Latino guy.
I know a few Hispanics who hate undocumented people from Mexico.
They Hate them. Funny thing is, They were illegal too. Until Reagan gave them amnesty.
yeah, i know.
So far, in reading these posts, I have not seen a single word or thought to the slaughter of a 9 year old child caught in the crossfire of hate and madness....... I wish her soul peace and tranquility - .....I don't believe in sky-spook-daddy's but I do believe that there is a soul-energy.
Besides that, as far as I can see, Bill-o, pigman and their ilk of hate spewers is now batting three for three in almost as many weeks. They are filthy monstrous spewers of vulgar hate, and karma is gonna be a real bitch for them.
You're right of course about the 9 year old girl, but has there been much information about her? I know I've missed it.
And as for the soul-energy, I tend to believe the same, but I also think of it as potentially splitting between numberless incarnate entities simultaneously.
For me, even reincarnation is simplistic.
I could not agree more that "reincarnation" is a (very) simplistic model for a very complex series of events.
As to the 9 year old girl, she was in the crossfire when the home invasion by these thugs occurred.
This is so ugly - I don't know how much more hate the country can take, before the wheels come off the train. This is proof positive that thought, for good or ill manifests.
I am so tired of this "de-volution" DEVO wss right.
All I know is she was caught in the cross-fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gL3P377BQA
Seems the gang went back to kill them all, thats when the mother found the gun and shot one of the armed robbers.
These three are going to end up on death row. Assuming some Conservative doesn't pardon them.
More than three people involved, support group !!
http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=105261...
It was callous of me to not focus on the young girl.
Sometimes, the mind blocks things that are disturbing.
This is one of those times I think.
Truly horrific. Those people are absolutely nuts. No regard for other people and their well being. A 9 year old girl.sigh.
This saddens me. Along with all the other incidents lately. They killed a 9 year old girl.
All I can do right now is shake my head.
I feel for her parents.
too much to take......... :-(
This kind of thing has to end now.
Surely there are a lot of Republicans that will find this despicable. And this is coming from the right. Lets be perfectly clear about this. For all the Republicans and Conservatives who are lurking out there. Do You See What Is Happening?
I agree of course.
But one, with the help of doughy pantsload they're trying to redirect the source of the extremism problem, and would put the onus of change on us.
And two, political involvement in this country is so low, if we take out the "entertainment" value, how much further will it fall?
And three, if we don't take out the "entertainment" value, how many more will die?
Now y'all can see why I'm always a wiseacre.
trying to keep your sanity, in a country gone stark raving mad.
inventoried before they arrived. Her sister was sleeping over away from home and didn't get killed.
They wanted all of them dead because they would have testified against the killers.
> So far, in reading these posts, I have not seen a
> single word or thought to the slaughter of a 9 year
> old child caught in the crossfire of hate and madness
It's being covered on YouTube.
the disavowals
the denials
the disassociations
everyone's innocent
and they all were enabled by boosh's government, which made every effort to look the other way.
to the dance studio this morning to give myself a ballet class, lose myself in the music, and try to forget...... if even for a few hours.
Von Brunn as a 'Lone Wolf': Killers act alone, but these are not 'isolated incidents'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbdZIv49q0Y&fe...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090614/ap_on_go_...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaqjT4Js-0Y&fe...
are nothing but proto-fascist white supremacists, and they are part of a right wing wave of violence that is going to do real damage if americans don't get wise soon.
Brown shirts.
Look at the political Party that Gilchrist campaigned under here in Southern California. It was allegedly historically a white supremacist Party according to Google-searchable records.
All armed right-wing groups get bored of playing soldier and decide to do something else with their guns.
I don't know, some of these people always struck me as the kind of chickenshit who like to act all bad and buy a bunch of guns but were too much of a damn wuss to join the regular army.
Some are prob ex forces, PTSDed psycho and bored, aging and trying to recapture their youth by being part of an armed org. Others are ones who failed entrance into, or got kicked out of the forces/police. US mil has a lower cutoff point of 85 for IQ, police are not so fussy.
Will be interesting to see if they have any legit DHS links, the DHS has been very loose with its hiring of gangsters and thugs to 'protect' America.
Not forgetting some cop and sheriff depts conduct themselves in home invasion mode when they SWAT raid people's homes in pursuit of the weed. The Tenaha TX cops made $3 million in two years from highway robbery of people traveling through their town.
That Swedish gangster who was crashed and wrecked a stolen Ferri, had DHS credentials via some crazy bus company scam.
Yep, if you look at the video that anti-hate groups made of these clowns in Southern California near Campo, these right wing extremist lunatics paraded around like a bunch of homosexual pansies with firearms, screaming hate across the distances to the anti-hate groups who were watching and recording them.
Occasionally a right wing extremist would fire a rifle or a handgun in the air and scream some Republican insanity, usually at night in the dark.
There was a LOT of video taken around the Campo area, very telling and of historic value, I would argue, since it shows the KKK in full bloom once again.
All of it was posted to the Los Angeles Indymedia web site as it was happening and it was fascinating to watch extremist Republicanism Christian fascism on the rise once again as it happened.
My opinions only and only my opinions, as always.
8 ↔ 10? Focus on free will and you may find the truth.
dealers? i can't find the reference...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCeI0e7EKDc
These scumbag extremists were in Baldwin Park, California spewing their hate and bigotry at a train station because there was a monument with Native American Indian comments engraved on it.
Local American citizens turned out in droves to oppose these piles.
Ah well, these things come in waves.
Where are the police? Where is the national guard? How can a group like this exist in the USA?! It is beyond me. it is enough to make me want to renounce my citizenship and move to a civilized nation.
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