Obama: 'If you're driving toward a cliff, you have to change direction'
By David Neiwert Friday Feb 06, 2009 9:15am
Barack Obama delivered a another stemwinder to House Democrats last night:
"I welcome this debate, but, come on, we are not going to get relief by turning back to the same policies that, for the last eight years, doubled our national debt, and threw our economy into a tail spin '' Obama said, with a passion unseen in public since the campaign trail. "We can't embrace the same old formula that says only tax cuts will address the problems we face.''
Opponents say the plan is not a stimulus bill, it's a spending bill, he said. "What do you think stimulus is?'' Obama said, with visible frustration. "That's the point.''
The president's appeal marks a sharply accelerated drive for an economic stimulus that Republicans are criticizing and some members of his own party are starting to question as the Senate debates a plan that cleared the House with unanimous opposition from the GOP. Obama plans a prime-time news conference Monday night to take the same case to the American public, but they are unlikely to see the campaign-styled passion that Obama rolled out for his party at its retreat tonight.
"I don't care if you're driving a hybrid or SUV. If you're driving toward a cliff, you have to change direction,'' Obama told his party, applauding the words of their new president at the start of a weekend retreat. "That's what the American people called for."
Politico has more, including this quip:
“When you start hearing arguments, on the cable chatter, just understand a couple of things,” he said. “No. 1, when they say, ‘Well, why are we spending $800 billion [when] we’ve got this huge deficit?’ – first of all, I found this deficit when I showed up, No. 1.
“I found this national debt, doubled, wrapped in a big bow waiting for me as I stepped into the Oval Office.”
How long before the wingnuts and their Village enablers all simultaneously fall to their fainting couches? Ah, poor sweet Bipartisanship, foully struck low in the bloom of youth!
I think John Cole has it about right:
I really don’t understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years.
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Thank you Mister President for calling the obstructionist Republicans on there BS.
prominent Democrat to call the supply-siders out on their failed ideology.
Shame such a high % of the country supports and allows it to happen.
The KKK are still running around, though enough people know not to let them run the country, it's the people that went into a self obsessed greed coma that really let this happen. ....... and while all the time telling the world they were #1 ......... it's makes interesting watching.
Europe is getting out on the streets and protesting and making change, and still people in the US cry about wanting their gas cheaper, more hamburgers and pointing the finger in blame, come on people.
We Americans love to piss and moan, but if it actually involves gettin our fat asses off the couch...then thing's ain't quite so bad all the sudden...
Fuckin pathetic.
What if the cliff's a pinnacle?
What's your point? ;-)
* With what money?
* Who's going to loan it to us? China?
* Were deep in debt, so the solution is more debt?
Really?
* Has anyone thought about not spending?
* Why are you trying to re-inflate a bubbled economy?
* Why not let them fail and let the strong pickup after words? (it's been proven to work)
* Why not revalue gold, and get us back on a gold standard baseline?
* Why not abolish the unconstitutional FED? (seriously, the FED has it valued at $45 an ounce, market has it at over $900)
Just wondering because you know no not many are asking these questions or supplying any answers along these lines.
HELLO!?!?
Rule #1 in investing never catch a falling knife, and were catching a $30 trillion knife.
Check out this video clip from Realnewsnetwork:
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com...
And one more thing. Do any of you suppose Obama would get in Chevron's face and force them to release this battery that they bought from GM and deep-sixed?:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/553.html
I believe the depression will last at least that long, and that it will end only if and when the American People rise up in rebellion, in mass, across party lines, and throw off the corporate-criminal-CIA masters and reclaim their government.
and replace the current system with what, exactly?
Paul Keating has a good idea, check the video to the right.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s...
your exactly right! this jobs works programs like putting a band aid on a gushing artery, and yes most of this moneys going to be wasted by pork and greedy scumbags who figure out how to syphon off millions of bucks from it , and nobody goes to jail just like cheny bush , every thieveing son of a bitch gets thiers, if thier is to be a wpa every swinging peckerwood buck should be spent wisely, but thats not going to happen! cause these politicians are just setting this up for the porpose of killing social securty and retirement funds for the eldely and retired, and when push comes to shove were either against them or against each other , you want mine try and take it ,
to avoid another depression would be the shortest answer...
the way to stop a recession from metastasizing into a full-blown depression is thru spending, and when consumers and industry stop spending it is up to the govt to step in.
we must nationalize the banks. and the shareholders will have to take a bath.
retirement savings plans and pensions. Are you prepared to let them go down the tubes too (at least the ones which did not sufficiently diversify from financial sector holdings)?
What good does nationalizing the banks do exactly? Nationalization does not eliminate the debt. All it does is let Congress control the financial institutions. Do you really think that Congress can exercise the day to day control and oversight necessary to run all/most of our major financial institutions?
More importantly, do you really think nationalization will ever be accepted by a majority of the electorate?
it was a risk that was taken. do they share the profit when their gamble is successful? harsh? you betcha.
have already given the banks multiple amounts more than what they are really worth. we bought, we should control. we have already injected enough cash to nationalize the banks, but we--stupidly--refused to demand a controlling stake.
we gave them billions of dollars with no strings attached. attach the fucking strings already.
why do you insist that the tax payers are the ones that get hosed?
taken as a collective, are the most numerous and therefore most able to bear the costs/loss.
why, as a taxpayer, would i cover the losses of private industry and shareholders?
you champion a system that privatizes profit and socializes risk.
i don't.
sooner or later, we're going to agree on something...
maybe
but i do look forward to that day
Never before in the history of the world have so many people bet their retirement on the stock market. The ERISA Act of 1974 put the nail in there retirement coffin.
Fractional reserve banking is an exponential system, it must expand. It requires a growing population. I deposit $1 and the bank loans $10. The largest generation is retiring to Gen-X which must support their economy until they pass out of the system. Gen-X is 1/3rd smaller. Simply there are not enough people to support the retiring baby boomers.
That piece of news sucks, I missed being a baby boomer by 1 year, but I have accepted the cold reality there are more sellers than buyers. The baby boomers won't get to retire.
a handful of banks can now leverage 30:1, not 10:1
this was a large part of the economic failures of today.
5 investment banks were allowed to increase their leverage to 30:1... and 40:1
Lehman Brothers (failed)
Bear Stearns (failed)
Merrill Lynch (failed)
Goldman Sachs
and Morgan Stanley
this is why privatizing social security was, is and will forever be a horrible idea.
without a govt-run, taxpayer funded, social safety net all but a handful of us will be doomed in our old age.
Lehman Brothers (failed)
Bear Stearns (failed)
Merrill Lynch (failed)
Goldman Sachs
and Morgan Stanley
On September 22, 2008, the last two major investment banks in the United States, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, both confirmed that they would become traditional bank holding companies, bringing an end to the era of investment banking on Wall Street.
The "TARP" made an ass of US!
When we look at the "TARP" in hindsight, what does it spell?
(ysbaddaden) where are you? :-)
Seeing in hindsight one's own ass sounds like the punishment meted out to would be prognosticators in Dante Aligheiri's The Divine Comedy.
that just makes the point even stronger
You have know where the money is coming from, no one seems to be thinking about this fundamental point.
People don't make the same mistake the Bush drones did by blindly backing Bush because he was their Demander in Chief. Obama has returned credibility to the office and international stage but every question I have listed above is not getting asked or answered. We need to ask tough questions of this administration on the economy.
They are following Bernanke's lead, who has been wrong about everything, he is a parrot of Greenspan who likely bears the largest amount of blame for this economic debacle. Obama is getting this wrong because he doing what sounds good but in reality is going to cause larger problems. This deficit spending is a whole new can of worms and will lead to the destruction of the dollar.
If he isn't careful he will be a one term president, the neo-cons will have a platform for 2012, and we will be screwed economically.
These people saw this coming years ago and were right, they are not in agreement with Obama's plan and have made detailed explanations of what we should do and should not do.
Robert Kiyosaki
Peter Schiff
Jim Rogers
Max Keiser
Marc Faber
So far all the proponents of this stimulus have been vague and unable to explain why it is good, none have been able to answer the above questions.
This should concern all of us
Literally dropping $900 billion from helicopters on cities across the country would do more to stimulate the economy than what they are proposing.
would only help those close to the drop zone. Too close and they would be crushed.
is a good plan to my mind.
regardless of how far away from optimal its provisions are. This is simply a matter of politics. Since the Democratic administration proposed it and has tied a lot of its political clout to it, it must be passed or the GOP's ability to frustrate change will be considerably strengthened.
A double edged sword at that
the money we already spent was enough to own the banks
that money
was borrowed too
that doesn't change the fact that we, in effect, already paid 10xs what the banks were worth, for what?
consider the deal warren buffet got when he bought up goldman shares... we, as taxpayers, should have DEMANDED a similar deal. instead, we got shit on toast. and i don't like shit on toast.
For what?
I'll have to give you a Palin *wink* and get back to you on that.
You know Libertarians are just as stupid and uncaring as Republicans. "Let the strong pick up afterwords"? Let them eat cake! Let the biggest strongest corporations take over, yes that's the ticket! You know Mussolini used to travel around giving speeches about how the government should merge with the corporations and let the people be represented by the businesses in their area. To illustrate this he would take some sticks, one stick is easy to break but bundled together they are very hard to break. The Italian word for this bundle or league is fascio, and the political movement that came out of this union is known as Fascism. Let the strong survive, after all why should we as a government of the people care what happens to us as a nation.
likes to say that libertarians are just republicans who want to smoke pot and get laid.
We're going to do it anyways, and everyone is going to find out why you don't catch a falling economy.
They call it a correction for a reason, because it should never have gotten to this point. The time to have stopped it was when everyone sucking fine drinks and patting themselves on the back for making a killing.
The crash is the cure of doing nothing when we should have.
keep finding ways to blame the crash on the GOP. The Democrats also need to look like they are doing something to ameliorate the more dire effects of the crash. It matters less whether what the Democrats are doing is effective, so long as the public is convinced that this administration is doing all in its power to help.
Actually most libertarians were opposed to the TARP bill, which gave hundreds of billions to the "biggest strongest corporations" such as Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, and Citigroup. If we had let them fail smaller, more responsible companies would have picked up there market share, without costing taxpayers a dime. Your hero Obama sure supported that one though. Also his biggest donors were Wall St. executives from these same companies. Nice try though.
libertarianism sounds great, but in practice it ignores human nature. Greed usually trumps idealism.
US infrastructure is approaching third world standards in areas of the country. This needs money to fix. Paying people to do the fixing provides money directly to the middle and lower classes who will spend it (similar to what would happen with more progressive tax changes).
Your 6th bullet point seems to suggest that the government should simply do nothing and let the recession play itself out on its own - let the chips fall where they may. Do you believe the government has no responsibility to try to ameliorate the negative effects of a recession? Is your solution simply less government?
I feel like a broken record, and no one hears it. I'm trying to get people here to see something you are missing.
With what money?
Who is going to loan it to us? China?
I don't china is going to carry our water much longer.
It just has to do so one more time...and then, it has to publicly refuse to loan any further funds specifically because the Republicans ran the national debt up too high.
precious metals and commodity metals.
that is a wise course of action to have core holding of precious metals.
Great read - The Greatest Wealth Transfer Ever
http://goldsilver.com/newsletters/newsID/3592/
The charts are straight off the FED's website
If you really believe that than you have obviously never been to a third world country. Dumping billions into infrastructure spending will create dozens of Big Dig style boondoggles all over the country. Only union members and politically connected hacks will get the jobs, and they will be rife with fraud and waste. Not to mention it will be years before any effects are felt by the greater economy.
And yes I believe that the government should do nothing, except maybe lower taxes across the board.
Regardless, it's going to many years to recover from this crisis even if the jobs program works. The repugs got us here and we all, our children and grandchildren will suffer from it.
You say
We have no money, the country is insolvent. Deficit spending means we have to borrow more, the problem is debt. Our solution more debt?
All those jobs you are talking about come at the expense of the tax payer. The states have no money, California is holding up peoples tax returns because they spent it all.
The infrastructure of the Sudan and Panama, for example, are not comparable.
not to mention a terrible anaology that relies on stereotypes and sweeping generalizations.
to talk logic to teh repugs...they are immune to such things.
Obama's latest rhetoric is turning into Bushian fearmongering. Now he says if we don't pass the stimulus NOW!, the recession may be irreversible. Does he understand just how stupid he sounds? We couldn't create a permanent recession if we tried. Does he really think that factories and farms are just going to fall off the face of the earth?
I'm not defending the Republicans, I don't think they know what the hell they are talking about either, but haven't we heard this crap too many times to fall for it again?
Also the Congressional Budget Office just announced that the stimulus will hurt the economy in the long term. But lets get it done now, no time for debate, smoking gun could be a mushroom cloud, etc., etc.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/...
With Republicans, your date is more likely to prefer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlK0Xd4c2c
for political reasons. Very little else can get done if the Republicans successfully throttle this bill. If you want President Obama to have the political capital to get any significant changes done, then THIS is how it has to be.
Have you not seen the numerous posts pointing out that GOP mouthpieces with the largely complicit MSM have taken over the debate? If President Obama does not use his personal charisma and political clout to get a major bill passed in the "honeymoon" period of his Presidency, then he's shooting himself in the foot. He can't control the blue dogs NOW. Guess what happens if the Republicans score a major victory this early in President Obama's tenure.
As for "fearmongering", he needs to take the debate away from Republican framing and to get the bill passed over the GOP's opposition. If he openly admits that the government can take a long time to pass this bill, that just plays into the hands of the GOP, who want to stall the process (ANY process) at all costs.
Let the Republicans eat tire rims and anthrax.
Partisanship is commitment, often emotional and unreasoning, to a specific set of ideals.
Bipartisanship is not unity or coming together - it's two groups, each trying to undermine the other, and supposedly, this is going to actually solve problems.
There is no such thing as bipartisanship. You're either here to fix the problem, or you're in the fucking way.
Replace tax cuts in this package with a modest "stimulus" check for middle class taxpayers. Come on, let us trickle up for a change.
I could use a few thousand clams right about now.
Yeah, that really worked well during the Bush years.
Snark!
And I'd rather the people get the bail out money, than the corrupt wallstreet bastards.
it's time to call a spade a spade.
We're was the GOP and all their enablers when the GOP was signing every bullshit budget that the Chimp submitted...and worse...were adding trinkets ands decorations to every corporate special interest as if every day was Christmas.
As I said yesterday, the GOP doesn't want a demand based, middle class focused stimulus bill to succed.
If it does the Grand Old Party will become the Grand Dead Party.
Recession and probably turn it into a full-blown depression.
from Peter Schiff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTjjN04XEcE
truth b told...there is no data anywhere that suggests or ever suggested that.
We are not talking about simply spending (which is a nuance that seems to escape Republicans and other limited anti-intellectuals), but targeted spending to increase demand. Also, infrastructure improvements make the country more efficient, which reduces costs for business...even simpletons like Republicans should be able to understand that. Oh...and it creates jobs.
Infrastructure improvements? more efficient?
Have you heard about the Big Dig?
more efficient?
Right, and politicians don't lie.
and I heard Reagan talk about the lady that put her dog on welfare...and so..we should just eliminate social programs because of that.
Have you ever heard of the Federal Highway system...the internet...airports...railways...the national power grid...dams?
What's your solution...sit and hope natural selection creates prosperity? the lord?...or is it big business that is going to step in and be sooo efficient and create gold from a sow's ear.
Puleeease. Spare me the negative rhetoric about how government doesn't work. It's all gotten very old.
you're argument is ridiculous.
There is NO WAY all the lost jobs will be made up by those projects.
And the cost per job will be a further dead weight.
I didn't realize that now the bar is set at zero unemployment.
Not even the great patron saint of privatization, Ronnie Reagan did that.
Cost per job...offset by new tax revenues...because...TADA...people will be working...and SPENDING.
Here's a clue...read a book written before 1975.
You want to create more debt to create these jobs.
Who's gonna lend us the money?
You want to just print the money?
You're measures, as well as Obama's, directly lead to trillions more of debt.
Debt we can't afford. Debt we wont be able to pay back.
Why don't you stay out of grown up financial discussions since you obviously can't understand debt accumulation and the need to pay them back.
Why should we give your opinion any more weight than others? Who died and made you "Grand Poobah of the Economy", huh?
In case you haven't realized, this country has been operating in the red for the better part of the 20th century, barring a few periods of black (such as the 90s, where we actually had a surplus). We have never had the money "in hand" for all the things we spent it on, and that isn't going to change anytime soon, regardless of what you and the rest of the naysayers who have been flocking here lately want.
Obama dispatches Henry Kissinger, everybody's favorite war criminal, and open advocate for a New World Order, to Russia to negotiate with Putin.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nor...
and here's that luvable curmudgeon Henry pining about Obama and the New World Order:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/12/opinio...
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3BqK-9ZiU
Change. My Ass Change.
an economist -- he's a law-trained politician.
And he's got terrible, moronic economic advisers in Geithner and Summers.
The bus is headed for the cliff, all right, and no one in charge of the bus has a fucking clue how to turn it around.
Meanwhile, we the passengers are being entertained and distracted and told not to worry -- the smart people are in charge.
He's got the same people on the controls of the out-of-control Bus as Bush did.
Summers, Geithner, Volker and a whole bunch of other CFR/Trilateral/Bilderburg apparatchiks have all been folded into the mix.
No change, just the furtherance of the policies revealed by Klein in Shock Doctrine.
question:Economists Nouriel Roubini and Nassim Taleb, who predicted the global economic downturn, have called for a nationalization of banks in order to stop the financial meltdown. Do you agree?
stiglitz: The fact of the matter is, the banks are in very bad shape. The U.S. government has poured in hundreds of billions of dollars to very little effect. It is very clear that the banks have failed. American citizens have become majority owners in a very large number of the major banks. But they have no control. Any system where there is a separation of ownership and control is a recipe for disaster.
Nationalization is the only answer. These banks are effectively bankrupt
he says it better, and can back up his words with a nobel...
Ive been saying this for how long now?
Many of my friends who are Republican said they were going to vote for Dubya in 2004 because he's consitent, steady, and is willing to stay the course. So I asked 'If youre driving towards a brick wall, do you think the EMTs will admire your fortitude?'
Worse.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/169781/Peter-Schiff-Stimulus-Bill-Will-Lead-to-%22Unmitigated-Disaster%22?tickers=^dji,^gspc,QQQQ,SPY,DIA,TLT,UDN
"The fiscal stimulus bill being debated in Congress not only won't help the economy, it will make the recession much worse, says Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital.
Schiff scoffs at the notion the economic decline is starting to level off and concedes no government action means a "terrible" recession. But the path of increased government intervention will lead to "unmitigated disaster," says Schiff, who gained notoriety in 2007-08 for his prescient calls on the housing bubble and U.S. stocks.
The problem, he says, is the government is trying to perpetuate a "phony economy" based on borrowing and spending. With the U.S. consumer tapped out, the government is "now taking on the mantle" of consumer of last resort, he continues, predicting the bond bubble will soon burst - if it hasn't already - ultimately leading to a collapse of the dollar and an "inflationary depression worse than anything any of us have ever seen."
If nothing else, Schiff is an nonpartisan critic of American policymakers, comparing President Bush to Herbert Hoover and President Obama to FDR, and neither in a favorable way. "
is a naysayer with no real ideas. He's a free market libertarian whose basic premise is like every other financial gambler who's been losing for the last hour at the the crap table but still has some chips left..."let it ride".
and your idiotic solution is to just throw more money at the problems.
Guess what, more money wont solve them, they will only make them worse.
The government and the Fed are colluding to keep the real problems, the toxic debts, secreted away from the market, from the public.
But hey, throwing trillions at a problem sounds like a good idea.
if people can get back to work and make more taxable income. The economy could grow and the corporate profits can be taxed and eventually everyone winss. Doing nothing creates nothing.
if you go back to the S&L bailout...the deal was correctly structured...the public owned the assets at pennies on the dollar...and actually MADE money on the deal was the assets were cleaned up and sold.
The whole problem with the latest financial bailout is...it isn't a bailout...there have been no investigations...no indictments...no convictions (and the Madoff debacle is NOT part of the banking problem...so don't bring it up...it is a Ponsi scheme that was overlooked due to lax regulation)...no CEO firings...the $700 billion TARP payout was HANDOUT. It wasn't even debated. The money was not used to clean up balance sheets...it was used to shore up balance sheets...AND to pay out bonuses.
THAT is why it hasn't worked.
And let's be clear on which Party created that debacle and oversaw that handout and shoved it down the throats of the American People.
I call Bull shit on that repayment plan.
Show me the numbers.
I know it took England over 60 years to repay a $30Billion note to the US for loans taken out during WW2.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busines...
And you think the US will pay back trillions?With interest? In the lifetimes of 10 generations it wont be possible.
MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
of when it would be paid? With higher incomes it will still take a long time but it can be done. How is your plan going to work? Oh that's right, you don't have one.
my plan is not to spend money we don't have, and not to borrow money we can't repay.
or perhaps you want the US to eventually default on its loans of 10s of trillions.
you've already got a growing movement of states beginning to posture to distance themselves from the federal government. You sink the economy, you can say goodbye to the US.
And borrowing trillions with very little chance of repayment, will do just that.
That's not a plan. It's passing the buck for someone else to fix it.
and you're plan will put us further into debt. Debt that no one will buy, debt that we can't print ourselves out of.
the whole system needs a drastic overhaul, and the elites and the powers that be will not allow it. they have too much to lose in the system that they created, manipulated the laws to benefit them, and benefit from.
You just want to keep putting fuel in the firebox of the Titanic and hope we can steam out of it.
We can't.
i take it you think keynes' general theory was incorrect?
WITH A SOLUTION! Do you continuaally want to pass it on for someone else to fix?
Are they red states...who suck off the government teat the most...because they have the higher non wed pregnancy rates...more social diseases, teen pregnancy, abandoned children and poverty than big city blue states.
Yeah...as the Sens. of Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, Oklahoma etc if they're really ready to secede from the Union.
Personally...good riddance...they're a drag on the rest of us.
it depends on how the money is spent.
if you spend it on tax cuts for the rich then you are throwing the money away.
if you spend it on food stamps you will see a hefty return on that investment in the larger economy.
just 2 examples.
but like Peter Schiff...you don't really say much.
Between the two of you...how about an idea...instead of sittin' in the corner complaining.
So far...all I've heard is..."nothing will work because we are all so powerless...waaah"
Anyone who doesn't think the smartest economists and financial experts in the world did not know this day was coming is a fool.....a third-grader (or Mr. Perot) could have looked at the free-trade agreements and see that our middle-class jobs were being shipped elsewhere for the benefit of the NWO.......why do you think all the mid-east wars are neccessary and they stopped publishing the amount of money being put into circulation over seven years ago.......they are destroying us in order to herd us into their NWO.......do you think that a government capable of harnessing the atom...would not spend a wee bit on studying the emotional state of it's populace in order to control them...they know us...clique by clique, religion by religion, gun owner by gun owner...I'm sure they have studied us.....unless we are in the streets (and they are prepared for that too)......all we can do is go along for the ride....
"Eye of the Storm". Can we "renovate" our house before the next wall hits? Maybe by altering the laws and or by-laws?
What got us here > an individual(s)
What's the the problem > monies
This is my simple opinion, with all do respect ... and containing my frustration... [Individual(s) Make Law(s), money is simply a byproduct]
Think what you will?
'If you're driving toward a cliff, you have to change direction'
Not if you're a Republican.
Boehner and McConnell are the new Thelma and Louise. They've been scorching the road carelessly for the last several years on a unmitigated joyrid and now realize that the man is closing in on the charade. And now what do they have to lose by driving off the cliff?
The House Democrats are going to support the bill. The House repugs are going to show how stubborn and block headed they can be. The American people need to hear this!!
If the American public are being swayed by the right wing nut jobs, it's because the message of the right wing nut jobs is hitting the airwaves REPEATEDLY!!
We need to get our president in front of the people...ON THE MEDIA waves, and blast this one over and over and over and over and over again. We are a nation of f*cking morons....we don't learn by hearing the message once, and getting the bull shit tossed in our face a dozen times by these scum bag repug/fascist types.
It's time for AMERICA to come together. F*CK these idiots that refuse to work with our government. I repeat Sen. John Kerry's message if they aren't going to vote for it with changes...then F*CK the changes. Get enough votes to pass the damn thing, and F*CK the morons who are in Washington representing the morons in America!!
I guess being insane is a prerequisite to being a 'good' Republican. It's like they can't get beyond the 'us against them' attitude. Why do the Republicans who work in that Shining City on the Hill hate America so much? Maybe the Republicans feel the American People have abandoned them. Actually it's the other way around...they have abandoned the American People...a long time ago. Change will come, whether they like it or not.
Of Reaganomics/Bushonomics/Tax Cuts create jobs/Trickle down hocus pocus....
which is, if you're driving through a brick wall and don't succeed, try, try again...
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