August 18, 2009 07:30 PM
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Not only is Charlie Pierce one of my favorite writers -- his latest book, Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, is one of those rare must-reads that's simultaneously a delightful piece of prose -- he's also one of my favorite people. Here he is, at his Netroots Nation book signing, talking about the Creation Museum in Kentucky that is the centerpiece of the book.
I taped every panel I went to and this was my favorite snippet. Unfortunately, as you can see, I'm still very much in the learning phase for handling one of these cameras well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhGt6KktfS4
Special to those teabaggers and especially those who "inspired" them.
I don't want you any more 'cause you took my joy.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
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The second post will lead you to petitions for health care.
The Republican party appears vulnerable at the cash registers of those companies that give them money. If progressives boycott some of these companies and demand the legislation from them you can destroy the conservative hold over congress every single day instead of just at election day.
Even this last election where the Democrats increased majorities in each house and took the Presidency we still have to deal with conservatives in both parties, so apparently we have to attack conservatives at their contributors by boycotting their products but also emailing these companies which you can do by signing the petitions mentioned on the web page above.
Elections apparently don't do enough. If enough people sign these health care petitions and more we will destroy the conservative hold cover congress.
Thank you.
On the surface of our world right now
There is war, violence, and craziness
And things may seem dark.
But calmly and quietly
At the same time
Something is happening underground.
An inner revolution is taking place
And certain individuals
Are being called to a higher light.
It is a silent revolution
From the inside out
From the ground up.
This is a global co-operation
That has sleeper cells in every nation.
It is a planetary Spiritual Conspiracy.
You won’t likely see us on TV
You won’t read about us in the newspaper.
You won’t hear from us on the radio. We don’t seek glory.
We don’t wear any uniform.
We come in all shapes and sizes, colors and styles.
We are in every country and culture of the world
In cities big and small, mountains and valleys
In farms and villages, tribes and remote islands.
Most of us work anonymously
Seeking not recognition of name
But profound transformation of life.
Working quietly behind the scenes
You could pass by one of us on the street
And not even notice.
We go undercover
Not concerned for who takes the final credit
But simply that the work gets done.
Many of us may seem to have normal jobs.
But behind the external storefront
Is where the deeper work takes a place.
With the individual and collective power
Of our minds and hearts
We spread passion, knowledge, and joy to all.
Some call us the Conscious Army
As together
We co-create a new world.
Our orders come from the Spiritual Intelligence Agency
Instructing us to drop soft, secret love bombs
when no one is looking. Poems ~ Hugs ~ Music
Photography ~Smiles ~Kind words
Movies ~ Meditation and prayer ~ Dance ~ Websites
Social activism ~ Blogs ~ Random acts of kindness…
We each express ourselves
In our own unique ways
With our own unique gifts and talents.
“Be the change you want to see in the world”
That is the motto that fills our hearts.
We know this is the path to profound transformation.
We know that quietly and humbly
Individually and collectively
We have the power of all the oceans combined.
At first glance our work is not even visible.
It is slow and meticulous
Like the formation of mountains.
And yet with our combined efforts
Entire tectonic plates
Are being shaped and moved for centuries to come.
Love is the religion we come to share
And you don’t need to be highly educated
Or have exceptional knowledge to understand it.
Love arises from the intelligence of the heart
Embedded in the timeless evolutionary pulse
Of all living beings.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Nobody else can do it for you.
Yet don’t forget, we are all here supporting you.
We are now recruiting.
Perhaps you will join us
Or already have.
For in this spiritual conspiracy
All are welcome, and all are loved.
The door is always open.
~ Brian Piergrossi
Just like the world destroyed the National Party in South Africa by boycotting companies in South Africa we can destroy the Republican party and conservative Democrats power in congress by selectively boycotting companies that give money to conservative Democrats and Republicans.
Boycott Tyson Foods of Arkansas. Call lobbyist for Tyson Foods Chuck Penry 202 393 3921 and tell him politely that you refuse to buy Tyson chicken until Mike Ross D-Arkansas the leader of the Blue Dogs on health care gets the entire house and senate conservative Democrats to help get HR 676 enacted into law. Tell others to call. Send me email after you call.
...........for naming the names of the perpetrators of the PUKIES! We need to abolish confidentiality on the PUKIES and call them all out!!! ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!
I have been boycotting Don Tyson for more than twenty years, initially because of his indiscriminate polluting practices (illegally dumping raw pork- and chicken-processing sewage on privately owned land), and later because of his extreme indifference to the health and welfare of his employees (I personally know people who struggled with carpal tunnel issues after spending months on one of Tyson's processing lines doing the same task rapidly and repetitively). Tyson is a pitiable little man (literally).
Please, do not mistake my efforts to promote pacifism for a lack of activism or effectiveness. I am not the first pacifist, nor will I be the last, to have my efforts mocked or diminished even by those progressives with whom I cast my lot.
Kari Lydersen here
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Serious site, not a place for low humor. Though hard to tell sometimes, in all honesty. Banned automatically for an offensive word(?) which I tried to place in context?
No, I am not a "PC Troll", but I think I get it: "stupid bitch" = acceptable way to describe a woman, but "retard" is an unacceptable way to refer to Ken Ham, founder of "Genesis' Creation Museum". I hope Kenneth appreciates that.
No offense meant, and none taken. Will keep reading, but the comment policy seems too idiosyncratic to bother learning. Sarah Palin hates you anyway, and I have friends and relatives with Downs whom I care for deeply, not that anyone could give a sh... Whoops! I meant "s--t".
Don't think you have made an enemy or some such; C&L is a great site, one of my handful of daily hits, and will remain so. I can't imagine that you will miss my brilliant commentary much, but there are other good ones out there without such a finely developed sense of values and propriety.
And no, not female, but some of Those People get Uppity about certain words, too. Thought you should know.
If its a hating Taibbi thing, too bad for you.
Regards.
Obama voter & overspending contributor busy commenting elsewhere
More apologies...
I guess I posted the same, relatively inoffensive (I thought) comment twice, given the response time of this c.2002 laptop. Saw that my first comment on C&L was banned, and was a little pissed...
Once again, I accrue benefits from not being a COMPLETE asshole. (If I was REAL MAD, like Joe the Plumber, I'd really have given y'all a piece of my mind!) The above is about the least angry letter of angry letters I've ever written. With any luck, at least one other reader might find it halfway amusing. If not, flush it, though I've always stood by the Never Delete Anything I've Ever Posted Anywhere, No Matter How Stupid in Retrospect. (I guess the W. years left me with a transparency fetish or something.)
Such an auspicious beginning, no? Enough bandwidth wasted; good night to all. Amusing to me, at least--- but not half as much as that Ian Murphy article I posted below...
[It's okay, Ben. The violated comment above was an attempt by a commercial spammer to get some exposure to his/her product. Whenever you see violated comments on the open threads, you can figure that the commenter is most likely a spammer. Site Monitor]
Pierce is one of my favorite writers, too. I have read the new book. What a hoot. Anyone see him on the Electric TV Machine with David Shuster? Shuster made a fool out of himself that day, and Pierce wasn't even breathing hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9txF1Z2v2A
Jane Hamsher on The Rachel Maddow Show - Progressives throw down for Public Option
Rachel Maddow - Richard Trumka, Sec. Treasurer AFLCIO - Health Care
.. and Big Props to Rachel for outing Dick Armey - forced him to resign position at DLA Piper .. you rock, Rachel !
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Mark Schmitt, The American Prospect Group Blog
here
Precisely what I said all along.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Pelosi promised Weiner to bring HR 676 to the floor of the House.
And Weiner has hit the MSM, taking advantage of the White House waffle on the public option to "start from scratch" championing "Medicare For All Americans."
I've gotta imagine the Progressives (who have refused to vote for any bill without the public option) will support HR 676.
We MUST SAY to ALL Representatives - Republicans and Blue Dogs alike: "Pass HR 676 NOW or Face the Wrath of Your District in the 2010 Elections."
Then if they do not pass HR 676 - don't pass ANY "reform" but kick ass in 2010, rinse and repeat!
If we don't get HR 676 now it's better to wait a coupla years and try again with a new Congress than to get anything less than HR 676.
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
http://www.democrats.com/boycott-fox-news-adv... - make your $$$ count. It's a way of NOT being stupid.
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
CNN reporting Dems going it ALONE on health care!
CNN VIDEO
HR 676
and they are right on what I've been saying about our naysayers.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/081809.html
at a townhall freak-fest. Short but sweet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Too bad more of these politicians don't have more snark in them. They could make short work of the type of stupid bitch to compare Obama to the Nazis in a question to a Jewish Congressman...
I've never seen change without a fire
Barney Frank always tells it like it is. That was great!
Thanx, aangus and fastfeat :)
GOOD ON BARNIE!
He's one eloquent sumb1tch, especially with that 'tribute to the 1st amendment'. 'arguing with a table', OUCH!
BTW it's already in the video cafe
Some stuff you can't make up!
That is the way to handle them!
Tell aangus I said, "Hey," wouldja? Haven't crossed paths with him lately.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
on the newt thread earlier this evening. Lots of people missing lately, but some good new people too.
GNA...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Do you think that stupid broad is too kooky to end up being interviewed on Fox?
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
...so horribly, horribly wrong, I feel funny about posting it on an excellent site such as C&L.
Still, creationists bring out the worst in me, I guess. I read this, then watched the brief video, laughing hysterically and knowing for sure that I AM going to hell, atheist or not.
I'd also suggest: this piece is NOT making fun at the expense of people who were born with an extra chromosome, but at the expense of willful, evil lying bigots who deserve every bit of ridicule they can muster. Bad sense of humor and all, I have to draw the line at mocking people for who and what they are, as opposed to what they do.
At risk of slandering him, I'd also state that I've been reading Dave Neiwert for many years, and think very highly of his scholarship. (The few of my friends who are public intellectuals agree with me on this, which makes me feel smart.)
And so: "Let There Be Retards: My Special Time at the Creation Museum". Ken Ham? You, sir, are the "retard".
http://buffalobeast.com/117/let_there_be_reta...
Thanks.
And don't worry about being a total asshole--someone, perhaps a total asshole (though their numbers are pretty small nowadays; consider yourself lucky?) will probably let you know, right or wrong.
No lowbrow humor? I think we had some yesterday, but that stuff flies off the shelf. Check back frequently for new stock. We work people on 2 to 4 hr shifts to avoid paying benefits and insurance, just like Walmart. And bring your own coffee...:)
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Pierce's piece for Esquire about Obama completely captured my mixed feelings at that point in the campaign. An amazing, amazing writer.
polling indicates that 80% of the people want single payer, like a medicare or medicaid.
1/6 of the american economy is in the hands of health insurance and pharma.
18,000 people die each year from having medical procedures refused by insurers
Illness and medical bills caused half of the 1,458,000 personal bankruptcies in 2001, according to a study published by the journal Health Affairs. Most of those bankrupted by illness had health insurance. More than three-quarters were insured at the start of the bankrupting illness. However, 38 percent had lost coverage at least temporarily by the time they filed for bankruptcy.
when is the above information going to become a real part of the debate. when are we going to stop listening to the republican 'plants' at the townhalls. (what person with insurance is going to scream for profitability) Many of these have been investigated, including the young Republican who asked the President: 'why should the government unfairly compete against insurance companies'.
Please consider the fact that so many other countries improve the global competitive opportunities for the companies in their own countries by providing the healthcare.
The debate also continuously ignores our ranking against other countries in the areas of infant mortality, per capita costs for medical services and outcomes from varying procedures. The US usually falls between 25 and 37 in several key categories.
This is not information that is unavailable to the whitehouse. Please use these facts in the debate. Please don't be fooled by pundits with an agenda, idealogical or political. Please have a look at the state of this nation and do something about it. Something that benefits all Americans.
Thank you for your time.
CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents
Some stuff you can't make up!
Has anybody on TV bothered to think that the (public) support for something rational and functional like single payer is why support for the muddled, ineffective 'public option' bullshit is falling?
are saying that they won't even support co-ops, kick their asses to the curb and let's go for the single payer. Expand Medicare for all.
but the reasons why things are a mess is because the Dems are intentionally dropping the ball. they present almost no facts to back up their argument, including the 18,000 (more like 22,000) deaths directly due to insurance company denials. bankruptcies in the millions per year.
the insurance companies would save 40% of payroll costs, along with every business in the country. that would be GREAT for SMALL BUSINESS!
Some stuff you can't make up!
The Dems are intentionally dropping the ball because that's what a lot of them have been paid very large amounts of money to do. There's a vast chasm between public opinion and support among elected officials, and the media who are in a position to do so are not bothering to shine the spotlight in that direction. That's the discussion we need to see.
Celtic 0-2 Arsenal.
Means Celtic is going to have to be up by 2 at the end of regulation at The Emirates next week just to force overtime. Up by 3 goals and they move on without the overtime periods. Not looking so good to make the group stage of the Champions League, muddy. Sorry.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Question: What is the difference between stupidity and glorifying ignorance?
Charles P. Pierce: Stupidity is as stupidity does, to quote a uniquely stupid movie. It has been with us always and always will be. But we moved into an era in which stupidity was celebrated if it managed to sell itself well, if it succeeded, if it made people money. That is “glorifying ignorance.” We moved into an era in which the reflexive instincts of the Gut were celebrated at the expense of reasoned, informed opinion. To this day, we have a political party—the Republicans—who, because it embraced a “movement of Conservatism” that celebrated anti-intellectualism is now incapable of conducting itself in any other way. That has profound political and cultural consequences, and the truly foul part about it was that so many people engaged in it knowing full well they were peddling poison.
Radix Omnium Malorum Avaritia
ID10T AMERICA <<< HERE Have a good laugh!
Some stuff you can't make up!
I seem to recall a better, less angry, less racist group of "white trash" people prior to the reign of king george. Days when my buddies and I would stay up Friday afternoon 'til Monday at dawn--rebuilding a motor in one of our vehicles, scrounging junkyards high on speed, throwing darts and blasting music from open garages, meeting and romancing (OK f'ing...) the neighborhood white trash women--then a quick shower and off to our individual jobs. Repeat more or less, until about 2000.
OK, not a highbrow life, I'll admit. But at least in my circle (mostly "dirty white" working-class LA/Orange County, CA), we may have talked some politics and had some disagreements, but politics were a minor portion of our lives. We'd have probably never considered raising Hell at a townhall meeting to protest or support "socialized medicine." We didn't call each other Nazis, nor spend time stocking up on arms for the coming "federal takeover" of our few guns that we rarely even pulled out to clean. We didn't discuss killing Clinton, nor did we feign fake concern over the welfare of the children (we hoped that the local bag whores didn't saddle us with.)
Sure, we weren't really cerebral, save for an occasional Leonard Cohen or Zappa album side mixed in with the UFO and Deep Purple. We all went to see the Grateful Dead when they were in town; even the guys who didn't like 'em liked the party. We smoked Marlboros or Camels, smoked pot, did speed, drank beer and Jack Daniels; we didn't get DUIs, but we scraped bail money together to spring the rare one who temporarily got on the wrong side of the jail cell door.
Our lives hardly seemed any sort of romantic tale at the time, but when I see the way people carry on these days--fighting against their own self-interests, drowning themselves in hate-filled talk radio and cable prattle, taking on political postures as some new holier-than-thou, drink/drug/tobacco-free, oppressed joyless white minority victims that need a fuckin' hobby--I think that maybe we were some at zenith of white-trashdom. Who knows?
I do know that I'm happier to have lived it then than now. And not that I have much wisdom, but if these people would get a hobby, get high or drunk occasionally, turn off the hate chatter and play some music (and loud enough to piss off the neighbors on rare occasions!), just maybe the blood pressure of this country could drop to the level where we could see clearly enough to get along and get shit done.
OK, done with my rose-tinted trip to yesteryear. More sarcasm tomorrow...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
while the right wing neocon fascist nazi corporatists are fucking us over people don't want to discuss politics. They are tuned out because of political correctness.
How do you mean? They/we don't want to discuss politics because we want to be "politically correct"? Or peoples' voices are tuned out because they don't support the the corpro-nazi line?
I've got a few friends (a couple from my above group) who talk politics (poorly) but don't vote (!!) They're actually pretty sane ex-hippie types who just don't think their votes count for much. (Sometimes, I've gotta agree...) But being politically correct (or astute) is something I wouldn't call them.
As for the latter, cases like my friends above really don't factor as any different from mine if they aren't buying the corpro-sludge we're bombarded with. Maybe the only big difference--they spend money for cable; I don't.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
His finale,
"Ann Coulter should be standing on a soap box somewhere in Nebraska
at passers by and not on my television set".
That was great but I am in Nebraska. OK, I'm a transplant from California. But the Nebraska comment on Coulter, does fit......
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Creationist "museums" ought to also be relegated to being eccentric roadside attractions out in the middle of nowhere, sandwiched between the "Corn Maze" and the rickety little shed selling fresh-picked peaches and fishing bait.
Woman Yells Heil Hitler To Jewish Man at Las Vegas Town Hall
From LasVegasNOW.com
-- the health care debate gets ugly in Las Vegas when a woman shouts "Heil Hitler" to an Israeli Jew who supports health care reform.
At video cafe
Some stuff you can't make up!
gall to demand to know why Barney Frank supports Obama's "Hitlerian" policies...
I've never seen change without a fire
an obnoxious bitch. Right wing nuts.
That young and woefully uneducated woman has no business trying to match wits with a seasoned congressman, especially by equating HC reform with the Third Reich to a JEWISH congressman. That whole question was dripping with blind hatred. There was no attempt on her part to have a rational debate. She just hates. You can see it in her eyes. What an ugly person.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
Call me naive, but I just didn't see it coming. I thought there would be a little on the fringe, but nothing like I've seen. And where was this energy for the previous eight years? Hibernating? Used in beating wives/husbands/kids?
I try not to expend much energy hating, though I admit, I truly loath bushcheney and might have gone postal if we got mcpalin. But I spent most of my adult life as a tolerant (I think) underachiever who never expected much from anyone and still kept an eye and a hand out for those who had less than me. I knew that I could very easily be in their shoes any day.
So again, I can't fathom the pent-up anger at those who have less than me. And I wouldn't care so much about those who have more than me, as long as they don't keep trying to get even more from me and my friends while telling us how much it benefits us.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
1st black man in charge.
media siezes latent racism and uses for corporate ends(like reconstruction,1870)
Some stuff you can't make up!
those who have less is dependent on the point of view of the "hater," so to speak. Some believe that those who have less are simply lazy, and feel entitled to be provided for by those who have more. Calling SS, Medicare, and Medicaid "entitlements" feeds this belief. Others, like fundamentalists, feel that their "God" blesses his chosen people with wealth and whiteness, and if you are not one of the chosen people, you are inferior to them. Google the Discovery Doctrine for some enlightenment. Then there are the blatant racists, who fear and thus hate those who are different from them who might pose a threat. It all seems to be a weakness of character, but that is just my opinion.
One other thing: The reason the "haves" try to get it from you is so they won't have to give up any of theirs. Their material possessions, regardless of the religious spouting of some of them, are the only basis for their sense of self-worth.
I saw another nut on CNN holding a sign saying: "Obama is an extreme Communist". Where do they find these people??
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
..very seriously.
A few of these nuts are even insisting on bringing automatic weapons to public forums like this -- and are being given the right to do so, under the Second Amendment.
Try getting away with that in China (or even Canada), militia boyz..
yeah ..
right ..
makes perfect sense to try to reach a bipartisan agreement with such fools ..
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
but i think this is proof that the rights support of israel has much more to do with the christian concept of armageddon than it has to do with loving the jew
they hate jews...they only support israel cuz they think the jew will bring the return of jesus, and then all jews will either convert or die
LaRouchies.
Nominally, yeah, they're Democrats, but they really aren't Democrats. They're very far to the right, and they're as nutty as the nuttiest Paulite. Their cult leader loves him some conspiracy theories chocked full 'o' antisemitism.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
to try to lump these people with those of saner voices. "See, a bunch of Dems are protesting rudely. See, not all Dems want health care reform."
Wouldn't surprise me at all if these LaRouchies are getting promised some perks from our Rethug friends. Maybe a couple of Faux bimbos?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
was she suppsoed to get a chick as a reward for attacking that Israeli man who supported Universal healthcare? like UncleJoe said: the right's support for Israel is more about Armageddon than 'friendship'.
Some stuff you can't make up!
These people have no heart.
Sotomayor votes against a death penalty sentence, but fails to stop the majority. L.A. County finally brings back MLK Jr. Hospital. R.I.P. Reader's Digest. Cali lawmakers have no problem boosting their pay in a time of cut-backs. Obama is sending mixed signals on his stance on gay marriage. John Yoo isn't wanted @ jQ1YjVqBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwODE4L3VzX2ludGVycm9nYXRpb25fbWVtb3NfcHJvZmVzc29yBGNwb3MDNARwb3MDNARzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrA3Byb3Rlc3RlcnN3YQ--">UCSB. Where's the fun in re-enacting Vietnam? Iraq's going after gay citizens. Pandas won't make it past 2-3 generations. The feds are doing a heckuva job protecting our SS #'s. Looks like we're still blowing money on the Colombian drug war. Dems finally show some backbone on health care reform. A lot of state and local government services are shut down, thanks to the "trickle-down" theory.
The Legislative Open Records Act allows the Legislature to be far more restrictive in its release of information than other state agencies, which are covered under a separate law, the California Public Records Act.
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WTF?? Why aren't ALL Legislature salaries posted as a matter of public record? I don't mean to sound all whacked on this, but, since these people are all paid out of taxpayer dollars, shouldn't their pay be public (at least CA residents) information?
I mean, if I get arrested, within a few hours, all my charges (not even convictions), are put out there for whomever wants to access the info, since, allegedly, I wronged the State and the State is trying to prosecute and collect from me.
Why should taxpayer-paid lawmakers salaries be any more privileged?
OK, now I'm done. Later...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I hope the Vikings go 0-16 this year.
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
It makes an argument for making a new investment in *gasp* jobs.
the first stimulus was not big enough. but time likes hitler and bush, so I question their motivations in saying that.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Please spare us seeing a man who can't put down his addiction (football), unraveling or breaking something before our eyes. I want to remember the Favre that was great, and even the Favre that was only good; I don't need to see the Favre who will sacrifice himself to an audience that would rather not see a man of his stature break or fade away.
Can some time please offer this man a quarterback's coach position or something? Clearly, he still cares about the sport and undoubtedly has something to contribute. It shouldn't be playing second- or third-string QB for an 0-16 team.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
He never did a damned thing to help his back-ups in the past.
His last five or six years in Green Bay he'd suggest he was retiring, then he'd wait until long after the draft to commit to playing. He fucked up the team because they were never sure how much cap room they had.
Screw that guy.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
I honestly didn't follow him fanatically, but I do recall sideline antics that suggested him to be less than a team guy, especially when he wasn't suited up. But hey, I'm not a coach or a player, just another armchair QB, coach and GM--without any of the salary...
He does need to get out of the way and let they younger guys have their game.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
But I've only missed a handful of Packers' games going back to 1972.
I'll admit that the guy could be very exciting. But I cheer the laundry. He made it very difficult to rebuild the team.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
and left. favre is an ass. narcissism barely touches the problem.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Fourth generation Packer fan here who hopes Brett and the Queens crash and burn.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
The republican party; thirty five years worth of experience championing stupidity for the sake of evil.
Were dumb, and getting dumber everyday. And they're isn't one damn thing you can do about it.
- Your local chapter of the GOP
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
one GOP operative saying "We are creating our own reality" or something to that effect.
he source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush:
Some stuff you can't make up!
one of the reasons the corporatists and their malleable sheeple continue to succeed is because most of us fine progressives are in full react mode. As long as we continue to waste our time and energy reacting to the Angry Group (nee Dana Gould, tyvm btw), we will remain mired in their bizarre and stultifying game. Would that we stop snarfing their nasty and unnecessary bipartisan red herrings...
It's been said that Fundamentalists needed Satan in order to believe in God.
Many of the Republican/Conservative nutbags, Tea-baggers, and Astro-Turfers we've been seeing at the townhall events have a Fundamentalists bent.
The "Base" Republicans need to see a Hitler under every trash can in order to believe in Conservatism. To these clowns, Obama is the new anti-Christ helping the average Conservative to justify their idiot culture of fear and exclusion.
in order to believe in God. So he can forgive them, of course, and thus prove his love for them by gracing them with riches and honors.
The idea that Obama is the "new" Anti-Christ is interesting.
Here is what concerns me: Who is the ultimate fascist? Hitler. Right? So far, anyway. Who are the ultimate fascists in this country? The conservatives. So why is it they are railing against themselves and no one points that out to them? There must be at least a few conservatives who realize this, and yet they say nothing. Apparently, they are ALL dishonest. Oh, for an honest and intelligent Republican who would explain why their party is going where they are obviously going. I think we already know why. They had absolute power under the Cheney/Bush administration, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. They are still in charge.
with loving jews?
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/woman-at-veg...
man, these people make me sick
pretty long thread on it upward.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Single payer is the best insurance plan. Anything else is just rearranging deck chairs.
The people will have to make a big effort to get it though. No one else will do it. so let the effort start!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
...and while it is mildly entertaining, it really contains no major insights or revelations. Perhaps the best thing about the book is Pierce's willingness to state without equivocation that the Wingers are absolutely effin' nuts. Living, as we do, in the age of they said equivalencies, it is refreshing to read someone who calls an idiot an idiot.
In all honesty, I wouldn't classify it as a "must read," but neither would I tell anyone not to read it. It's not a waste of time, unless you're an idiot, and then it wasn't really written for you now, was it?
If we had even a few members of the media who reported as straightforwardly as Pierce does in this book, we'd be a lot better off as a country. But then, they'd be in trouble all the time for pointing out lies and idiots and calling them by their real names, instead of pretending that the "Earth is a sphere" and the "Earth is flat" are just differences of opinion.
entirely.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Young boy, not sure his name, asks Wolfboy how he got the name 'Wolf'.
"Was it because you have hair all over your face?"
ROTFLMAO! He does what so many of us only wish we could do, and he doesn't even know it. Awesome!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
How dare this man with the scary beard impugn the impeccable reputation of Ms Ann Coulter!
On a similar note, I have proven that the earth is actually flat. I even used the 'scientists' tools to do it: the scientific method! Specifically, something they call 'direct observation'. What that means is that I went outside just now and looked around, and sure there are a few bumps here and a few holes over there, but it looks basically flat to me. Since I don't know what the scientific method really is, but instead only remember a buzzword or two the 'scientists' like to use, this is completely valid and utterly unassailable*. I will be publishing my scientific findings shortly, and will be waiting for the book deals to come rolling in!!
*The so-called evidence of pictures taken from outer space that show the earth as round are clearly all fakes because it doesn't say anything about humans being able to leave the planet in the Bible. Besides, if the earth was round, I think God would have told us.
...that I still chuckle every time I see your handle.
I don't miss Chris (the troll) one bit. I do kinda miss dennis from time to time though.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
or was it yesterday? I need some zzzzs...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
GNA!
The AP says support for Obamacare is unchanged, even though the number of people who think it'll improve their situations increased.
What ever happened to Dennis? Did he get tired of having his logic handed to him?
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Hadn't seen him in at least a month. Probably mom's got him on a restricted summer schedule--sunshine, exercise, walking around in traffic...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
word has it he's spending more time with his ego. let them be. they make a wonderful pair.
How's life treating you? How's the business venture doing for ya?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
The apparent roundness of the Earth is an optical effect due to the spaceships having round portholes.
And we all know the rocket launches and moon landings were faked by Disney Studios.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I finished reading Idiot America just a couple of weeks ago, good book, started out a bit slow for me but picked up nicely. It's one of many books that I've been reading to try and better understand why the conservatives are the way they are. Still havent figured it out yet.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Bob Altemeyer - The Authoritarians
p9:
p28:
are going to take credit for the public option!!!!!!!!!!
I was watching the ed show rerun tonight at midnight(Still am actually) and he kept hammering on about how the country is believing the four big lies the repubs are spewing about health care what with death panels and abortions etc.
I can already see it. What's going to happen is that the public health care is going to pass AND when the FOUR BIG LIES aren't in there the repubs are going to hoot and high five and announce to the country that they, even while being the minority party, were still able to keep the country safe from evil liberals and Obama trying to kill grandma and give coverage to illegals to once again save the country
Don't believe them? Well just look, no death panels or illegal care or state mandated abortions in the health reform bill that just passed!
Late,
QSE32
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NETROOTS NATION: TORTURE
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/45285
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.
is they have decided to believe. Not in what is real or what is happening at the moment! But what happened or was said to have happened a couple of thousand years ago. It is hard to reach people that have decided to live through faith. The eye of reason has been closed.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Story.
Dennis Kucinich On Fox News Aug.18, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozQK3QxnBLE
Doh hr.676
Wish that everyone in the US could see it, would watch it and understand what Kucinich so clearly explains here.
Me, too. The Kooch wants to save us.
..........and Rahmie doesn't like him. Rahm kicks him to the curb every election cycle. I only wish evil DLC folks like him would just LEAVE the Democratic Party alone!!!!
aaawwwwww!
Some stuff you can't make up!
him up but zero elsewhere?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
badmouth him once he's off the air.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Article by Elliot Spitzer on MSN.com on the fleecer game.
Is (the) Stock Market still a chump's game?
it's about the money! especially when you see so much bullshit in the news, you got to go check the financial pages. they are robbing us in front of our faces.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Industry groups launch astroturf ‘Energy Citizens’ website - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-18-indus...
The American Petroleum Institute has launched an "Energy Citizens" website to promote its anti–climate bill astroturfing efforts... So next month when the corporate media starts pimping this organization...you'll have had a full month of having them exposed as FRAUDS...
Global warming triggers more disasters - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-18-globa...
The ferocity of tropical storms and spread of wildfires will increase as the planet warms. Nonetheless, House opponents of the American Clean Energy and Security Act, H.R. 2454, spoke during the bill's June debate as if there were little urgency for action or costs to delay reductions in global warming pollution.
More anti-climate-bill letters forged under names of senior-citizen groups - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-18-more-...
Markey’s investigation into the forged letters continues. According to a press release from his committee, “Dozens of letters still remain that must be verified as genuine or false—all told, 58 letters were sent to the three members of Congress.”
Record Month for Renewable Energy in the U.S. - http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/40357
NYT: "Democrats Seem Set to Go It Alone on a Health Bill." We can handle that. - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/health/poli...
WP: "Republicans signaled Tuesday that dropping the public option would not garner additional GOP backing. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), the second-ranking Senate Republican leader, criticized an alternative idea of creating a private insurance cooperative, calling it a "Trojan horse" that was effectively the same as the public option." In short, a majority, if not 95% of them are going to vote against a health reform bill because they want to weaken Obama, no matter what concessions he makes.
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
At this point...if Obama & Dems are still looking for 'bi-partisan' support...it means they're trying to drop things themselves from the bill and use the republicans as cover...
Has the left blown its big chance of success? - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/1...
The last year should have been a happy one for the left. The great global lab experiment in unfettered finance capitalism has blown up. Bankers have become pariahs. Taxes on the rich have gone up. The pages of the financial press have had a frequent air of panic. New Labour has fallen out of love with the free market. Above all, the rightwing economic and political ideas first popularised by Margaret Thatcher in the 70s have, finally, lost their air of impregnability.
The Lanny Davis disease and America's health care debate - Glenn Greenwald - http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/0...
After Tom Daschle was selected to be Barack Obama's Secretary of Health and Human Services and chief health care adviser, Matt Taibbi wrote: "In Washington there are whores and there are whores, and then there is Tom Daschle." One could easily have added: "And then there's Lanny Davis." Davis frequently injects himself into political disputes, masquerading as an analyst and Democratic media pundit yet unmoored from any discernible political beliefs other than: "I agree with whoever pays me."
Q&A: Michael Moore - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_d...
The Secret Of China’s Miracle Economy: The Government Owns The Banks Rather Than The Reverse - http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/secret_of_c...
While the U.S. spends trillions of dollars to bail out its banking system, leaving its economy to languish, China is being called a “miracle economy” that has decoupled from the rest of the world. As the rest of the world sinks into the worst recession since the 1930s, China has maintained a phenomenal 8% annual growth rate. Those are the reports, but commentators are dubious.
They ask how that growth is possible, when other countries relying heavily on exports have suffered major downturns and remain in the doldrums. How can China’s stimulus plan be working so well, when ours is barely working at all? The answer may be simple: China has not let its banking system run roughshod over its productive economy. Chinese banks work for the people rather than the reverse.
So says Samah El-Shahat, a presenter for Al Jazeera English who has a doctorate in economics from the University of London. In an August 10 article titled “China Puts People Before Banks,” she writes: -- “China is the one leading economy where the divide – the disconnect between its financial sector and the world normal Chinese people and their businesses inhabit – doesn’t exist. Both worlds are booming again and this is due to the way the government handled its banks.
China hasn’t allowed its banking sector to become so powerful, so influential, and so big that it can call the shots or highjack the bailout. In simple terms, the government preferred to answer to its people and put their interests first before that of any vested interest or group. And that is why Chinese banks are lending to the people and their businesses in record numbers.”
-- What Wolff calls a “global capitalist crisis” is actually a credit crisis; and in China, unlike in the U.S., credit has been flowing freely, not just to the financial sector but to industry and local government. State-owned banks have massively increased lending, with local governments and state enterprises borrowing on a huge scale. The People’s Bank of China estimates that total loans for the first half of 2009 were $1.08 trillion, 50% more than the amount of loans Chinese banks issued in all of 2008.
The U.S. Federal Reserve has also engaged in record levels of lending, but its loans have gone chiefly to bail out the financial sector itself, leaving Main Street high and dry.
Why free marketeers & con-servatives are idiots: Why Iceland and Latvia Won't (and Can't) Pay for the Kleptocrats' Ripoffs: The Specter of Debt Revolt Is Haunting Europe
- http://www.counterpunch.org/hudson08182009.html
It is a set of assumptions and junk economics that kleptocrats, crooks and neoliberals love, as it has enabled them to get very, very wealthy and then run to government claiming that a Katrina-like accident has occurred that requires them to be fully bailed out or the economy will collapse without their self-serving wealth-seeking services. This “rational market” mysticism is what now passes for economic science.
And it is in the name of this junk science that EU financial officials and indeed, central bankers throughout the world are indoctrinated with blinders that do indeed enable them to find every collapse of their theories “unanticipated.” -- In the wake of the world crash populations are asking not only whether debts should be paid, but whether they can be paid! If they can’t be, then trying to pay will only shrink economics further, preventing them from becoming viable. This is what has led past structural adjustment programs to fail.
-- Iceland has decided that it was wrong to turn over its banking to a few domestic oligarchs without any real oversight or regulation, on the by-now discredited assumption that their self-dealing somehow will benefit the economy. -- The amount of debt that can be paid is limited by the size of the economic surplus – corporate profits and personal income for the private sector, and the net fiscal revenue paid to the tax collector for the public sector.
But for the past generation neither financial theory nor global practice has recognized any capacity-to-pay constraint. So debt service has been permitted to eat into capital formation and reduce living standards. -- As an alternative is to such financial lawlessness, the Althing asserts the principle of sovereign debt at the outset in responding to British and Dutch demands for Iceland’s government to guarantee payment of the Icesave bailout:
Instead of imposing the kind of austerity programs that devastated Third World countries from the 1970s to the 1990s and led them to avoid the IMF like a plague, the Althing is changing the rules of the financial system. It is subordinating Iceland’s reimbursement of Britain and Holland to the ability of Iceland’s economy to pay. -- This weekend’s pushback is a quantum leap that promises (or to creditors, threatens) to change the world’s financial environment.
For the first time since the 1920s the capacity-to-pay principle is being made the explicit legal basis for international debt service.
Brent Budowsky: The President Should Fight for the Public Healthcare Option - http://pundits.thehill.com/2009/08/14/the-pre...
Another blistering opinion piece about Obama and health care reform - http://www.americablog.com/2009/08/another-bl...
Tom Rinaldo: Warning to Moderate and Con-servative Congressional Democrats - http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Tom...
Jeremy Scahill: Blackwater Still Armed in Iraq - http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090831/scahill
See him on Real Time w/Bill Maher on Friday night
The Real News: Obama's compromise on health care reform -- Obama's fatal mistake was he started with a compromise with insurance companies
- http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com...
The End of the Public Option? - http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/16/the-end-of-...
"So Obama campaigns for 2 years with the public option as the centerpiece of his health care reform. He's elected by the largest majority in 20 years, and the public gives him 60 Democratic seats in the Senate and 256 Democratic seats in the House. Obama then publicly lobbies for said public option after he takes office.
Then Kent Conrad, who represents like 7 people, and a handful of corrupt Blue Dogs say "No way." And Obama caves. Big victory!"
Bob Herbert: This is Reform? Or Change You Can't Believe in. The Biggest Winners from the Baucus Package, Which Obama Appears Willing to Support, Will be Big Pharma and the Private Insurance Companies.
- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/opinion/18h...
William Greider: Squandered Opportunity on Health Care - http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090831/greider
The (ongoing) Glenn "Happy Feet - get off my phone!" Beck Ad Boycott List - http://gawker.com/5339254/the-glenn-beck-ad-b...
Stop Corporate Terrorism and Pay to Play: Pass the Government Option. If the Status Quo Prevails, We May Need a Change from the Change Obama Promised Before He Started Cutting Deals with the Status Quo that Will Enrich Them Even Further. And if President Obama Thinks he Can Show He's a Mythical "Centrist" by Stiff Arming the Progressives and the Majority of Americans, He Might Very Well Face a Primary Battle From a Senior Member of His Cabinet in 2012, and Without a Progressive Base He Will Lose.
- http://www.populist.com/09.15.edit.html
Robert Creamer: Three Reasons Why a Strong Public Option is Likely to be Part of Health Insurance Reform - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/...
Stand with Dr. Howard Dean for healthcare reform that allows individual Americans to choose either a universally available public healthcare option such as Medicare or for-profit private insurance.
- http://www.standwithdrdean.com/
Matthew Rothschild: Obama in Physical Danger from Crazy Rightwingers - http://www.progressive.org/wx081209.html
NYT: "The option of a co-op instead of a government health plan is so ill defined that no one knows exactly what it would look like."
- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/health/poli...
Could Liberals Finally Be Finding Their Economic Voice? - http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/9228
DCI: Tobacco PR firm creates fake health care group - http://www.desmogblog.com/dci-tobacco-pr-firm...
First Solar to Build 250MW & 300MW Solar Farms in California, Enough to Power 170,000 Homes - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/08/first...
We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children - Native American proverb
If being cold means there's no such thing as global warming, does being full mean there's no such thing as world hunger?
Your camera skills are evolving?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"The little men with the slide rules and computers are going to inherit the earth."
The Flight of the Phoenix - 1965
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