The Party of Hoover indeed
By David Neiwert Friday Dec 12, 2008 9:29am
Look, I don't think I've ever urged anyone to take Dick Cheney's advice on anything. But the morons/Republicans in the Senate really might want to pay attention at least:
Bush personally lobbied recalcitrant Senate Republicans after Vice President Dick Cheney failed to round up support Wednesday during a contentious two-hour meeting.
"If we don't do this, we will be known as the party of Herbert Hoover forever," Cheney told them, according to a Senate Republican aide, evoking the president whose inaction is widely blamed for helping trigger the Great Depression in the early 1930s.
Well, as Steve Benen acidly observes, that seems to be a mantle they wish to bear proudly.
Adds Benen:
This, for lack of a better word, is madness. But what I really don't understand is why the rest of the Republican caucus in the Senate went along with this. Corker, Shelby, and DeMint are three far-right lawmakers from the Deep South, but they were only able to pull this off last night because there weren't enough reasonable Republicans left.
Now, ironically enough, their only hope of escaping the Hoover Mantle lies with the Modern Hoover himself, George W. Bush.
At this point, the only route they see to power is to make things worse and blame it on the Democrats. What else do they have?
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I half expect to see every Republican walk in to work at some point with their right hands tucked into their coats, each wearing a little Napoleonesque hat on their pointy heads. Seriously, these people are certifiable; they must have v.d. eating their brains. It's as good as any other explanation.
But, but, but... aren't they supposed to be the "country first" party?
http://www.barefootsworld.net/prophesy.html
since he was using terms like "inflation" and "deflation" over 3/4 of a century before these terms were coined by economist...
Riiiiiiight.
Not quite.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp
did not translate well regarding the Jefferson quote, and the fact that they were attributing modern financial terminology to something supposedly uttered in the late XVIII-early XIX centuries, pointed towards the possible bullshit nature of the quote :-)
the democrats inability to frame the party of the Great Depression, The Watergate, the Iran-Contra, the S&L scandal, the sock crash of the 80s, the recession of the early 90s, 9/11, Iraq war, Enron, Katrina, et al... for the disastrous group of treasonous bastards they are.
After Hoover, and the fascist plot by republicans like Prescott Bush in the 30s, the GOP should have been made such a stigma, they would have gone out of business faster than Paris Hilton at a Mensa meetup.
No, the sad part is that in 2016 their election slogan is going to be:
"Hoover caused the great depression of 1929. Bush caused the great depression of 2009. Vote Republican because lightning never strikes THREE TIMES in the same place."
And they'll probably WIN on that.
What will most likely happen, and they seem to be moving towards that strategy, is that they will interfere with Obama so much. That by 2010 the crisis will be of such proportions that they will blame it on Obama.
There will be exactly ZERO mentions of Bush, as if he had never existed.
And Obama will be a lame duck by 2010. Not saying that it will happen, but it seems that is the intent of the GOP with all the apparent obstructionism being set in motion.
who cares if people starve while they're working that one out? it won't be them.
The Republicans suck up everything in their path.
And they also seem to have a penchant for having quite the kinky lifestyle they try to deny themselves...like Hoover. This IS THE Hoover that dressed in drag right? lol!
That was J. Edgar Hoover. Same company, different model. Which one had better sucking action is a matter of opinion.
Now that's friggin funny!
for coffee and electromechanical switches don't seem to mix well.
WTF? They've ALREADY become the party of Joe The Plumber! Being the party of Herbert Hoover would be THE GOOD OLD DAYS!
At this point, the only route they see to power is to make things worse and blame it on the Democrats. What else do they have?
Anyone not see this coming?
Believe me folks, this entire financial fiasco in which we are all now embroiled did not happen from an "Oops, our bad!" moment.
There is a definite method to their madness and we all know who "their" refers to.
It's not just the Republicans. All the deregulation nonsense started with Clinton and the Democrats.
All the Wall Street Banker Boyz got greedy with their Ponzi schemes (while the Republicans and Democrats fiddled).
This is all headed some place and I for one truly believe there is a group of people who know exactly where it is headed, how, when and why.
Anyone who thinks all this has transpired by accident is a fool.
Of course, will there be a proper and timely investigation as to how this mess happened?
No.
And why not? Because the Republicans and the DEMOCRATS and OBAMA AND REID AND PELOSI don't want one. And why? Because they're all fucking guilty.
And just wait until all the derivative/hedge fund "megapixel numbers" come home to roost.
MAJOR SHITSTORM.
why do you think we are in the shithole we are in right now?
Boosh et al miscalculated the magnitude, because I believe they were under the impression they could hold off until Obama takes his oath, and then they could the damn break loose.
Alas, just like everything else... Boosh could not even pull that one off.
I know Google searches the porper ads for the site. I live in the Netherlands and this is my view of this page. Check out the ad on the bottom of the page. The irony is butter thick!
http://i33.tinypic.com/dfzgqr.gif
(Translated: Book a testdrive. More information)
I used to liken the 'creating our own reality, and while you're reporting on that, we'll be creating another new reality over there' story to 'we'll hold a frat party, barf all over the living room, and while you're cleaning up the living room, we'll hold another frat party over there ...'
But now, it's more like a medieval huckster, who promises the townspeople that he can turn a rock into gold. Suitably impressed by a little misdirection and sleight of hand, the townspeople are quick to trade their goods for this amazing miracle.
Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the hucksters are working on their next trick, turning a brick of dung into gold ...
"It's still a brick of dung."
"But I told them I'd turn it into gold!"
"Sorry, it's still a brick of dung. Stall them."
"But I promised them castles made of gold! Riches beyond imagination!"
"Formula's not working, what can I say? It's still a brick of dung."
"You, you and you! You need to get out there and tell them what wonders we worked in That Other Village!"
::: group looks at brick ::: "It's still a brick of dung."
"I KNOW THAT! You have to tell them we've acted with honor and dignity! Preserve our legacy!"
"Say, I hear the Mages from the East turned their brick into gold."
::: group wanders off, leaving the huckster with the brick of dung :::
No, this is how it would go if the huckster was a Republican:
"It's still a brick of dung."
"Of course it is, dung is better than gold."
"No it's not. Dung is everywhere, you can get it in any field around here- and it stinks."
"Not this dung, this is special dung. And anyone who wants gold is a sinner anyway, god says so. God blesses the dung and those who build with it."
"It still stinks."
The next day, everyone is celebrating the special, better-than-gold-dung while pillorying the one guy with the working nose.
Republicans have more Law Makers who are idiots then Democrats. This Election has brought out so much about our Govenment and Law Makers. AIG got 150 billion with no questions asked even after parting with 400,000 of the bailout money. Citi Group who's majority shareholders are Saudis got an undisclosed amount of the bailout money and no body is asking any question. Look it's clear the Auto Industry was on the pay to play list of the Repubicans so they would rather let millions more Americans lose their jobs and homes then give help. Now Bush and Cheney with others will make a deal with the car company for their free stock shares and then tell the idiot Republicans to pass the bill.
Exactly what the Dims had this time: "We're" not "Them." If in the process the Pukes can satisfy a coprophagic CorpoRat wet-dream stretching back to the Pullman Strike, and kill off a major union--and administer a body blow to unions in general--that's just lagniappe, chers...
They already are the Hoover party. In fact, many people now are forced to live in "Bushvilles" just as people had to live in "Hoovervilles" during Hoover's presidency. Bush, like Hoover, sat back and did nothing.
Hoover sucks.
So the Dark Lord is still around.
I love seeing "Cheney" and "failed" in the same sentence.
Bye Bye Dick. I wish you all the worst.
a Dam and a damn fine vacuum. Bush is just pubic hair and the minor leagues. Cheney ain't got one right yet.
Got one what, pubic hair?
Ya mean his pubes are as bald as his head?
What pubes? He doesn't HAVE any stones, which is why he has to send other folks' kids to fight his fucking wars and pretend he's a patriot.
THIS GUY FOR PRESIDENT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzxHDqUz8Sk
to the ever insightful Digby she missed the other half of the Republican strategy. Recessions and depressions are great for people with pots of money that Republicans represent and rely on for fund raising. This is the time where all their moneyed supporters pick up bargains left right and center and further concentrate economic control. If you've got millions this is the best of times.
plus when economic times are uncertain, workers are less likely to be all uppity since they are more concerned with keeping their jobs, than look for a better paid one as a bargaining chip.
Why do people think old money never dies, and only seems to grow, even through difficult economic cycles.
Of course, there are stupid assed rich people who will lose their shirt this time around.
of the Republicants --- they aren't for America, they are only for Corporations, wherever they exist. and if the parent company exists in another country, but puts people to work in their tiny "right to work" (right to starve) state, well, that's damn good enough for them.
All we need is climate change in the form of a giant dust storm in the middle of the country, and the 1930's will come roaring back to life and the image will be complete.
well, rush limbaugh just said that global warming doesn't exist because it snowed in the south today. if enough people believe that kinda crap, we'll get our dust bowl soon enough
Digby does nail it. I've always said the "patriotic" Republicans have and will continue to throw America under the bus for their own self-serving political and financial agendas. As long as they have any power whatsoever they will be a greater threat to this nation than Al-Queda could ever hope to be.
Bin Laden loves the GOP for they can do what he could never have done. Run America into the ground.
The 2009 version of the republic party is the worst in history. Hoover, for all his faults, was a intelligent man who confronted an unprecedented economic situation that was created by his predecessor in office. Shrub and his merry band of idiots created this disaster all by themselves. Now the Limbaugh, Hannity wing of the party is all that's left. They're dumb and getting dumber. I predict you will see some people leave the party like the Maine senators and other moderates before this is all over. The only thing the repukes have going for them are the leaderless democrats (Pelosi and Reid). The dems would be smart to replace those two with some real leaders. Finally Obama should use Biden to speak out forcefully against the republickers. He should tell the country how the repukelickercan'ts took a peaceful country with a surplus and set it on the path to destruction
Usually the Republicans revere around Ronald Reagan, and what is quite stunning and another sign that people are NOT smart as they dumb-down and nominate him as "the greatest American" just a few years ago. That being the case, the Air Traffic Controllers' unions gone bust and the Iran-Contra scandal during the Reagan years seem to be swept under the rug.
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