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Pat Robertson, on The 700 Club yesterday, got in on the collective right-wing teeth-gnashing over that Department of Homeland Security bulletin on the threat posed by right-wing extremists in America.

You know, the controversy that's been demonstrated to be a lot of hot air -- not to mention a terribly revealing one about how mainstream right-wingers see themselves.

Not that such mere trifles would ever deter Pat Robertson. His attack on the DHS yesterday, alongside his coanchor Terry Meeuwsen, featured an unending stream of flatly false information and mischaracterizations. Plus, of course, the requisite gay-bashing and liberal bashing, all wrapped up in a neat little ball:

Robertson: If that had been a Republican, there would be outrage and screams for Janet Napolitano to resign immediately. That -- Terry, you're somebody who favors life, wants to keep little babies alive. Somebody who has been a veteran and served our country as a proud member of the military. Somebody who is opposed to the left-wing policies of the administration and who wants to express his or her views as they are entitled to under our Constitution, these people are now being stigmatized as terrorists! This is an outrage!

Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to do something about it. If that doesn't get you excited, I don't know what would. And I want you to call a number. This is the Department of Homeland Security.

[Reads number]

... And just say you protest. This is an outrage!

And Janet Napolitano has got a lot of explaining to do. And that lame excuse she was giving -- 'Oh, I'm sorry they characterized all veterans that way' -- I mean, come off it!

Meeuwsen: The report was the report. I mean, it is astonishing that it was allowed to leave under that --

Robertson: It -- it shows somebody down in the bowels of that organization is either a convinced left-winger or somebody whose sexual orientation is somewhat in question.

But it's that kind of thing, somebody who doesn't think that we should have abortion on demand, is labeled a terrorist! It's outrageous!

Then, after a news segment that ended with a story about Somali pirates, Robertson gets back to his rant:

Robertson: These people [pirates] are terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. The extreme Muslims are terrorists and they are being trained to destroy America.

So what does our Homeland Security Department come out with? They say, well, the real terrorists are people who are conservative, who are former veterans of the United States military, who believe in the sanctity of human life, and who don't like the policies of the current administration. These are the major threat to America.

Now, that in my opinion, is an outrage. And I think if you don't speak out against it, it's going to be allowed to stand. So I want to give you that number again. Ring those phones up there in Washington, let them know people care.

[Reads number]

That you protest this -- ah, stigmatism of law-abiding Americans as being right-wing threats to America.

[Repeats number]

And if you jam up their lines, good for you!

While I could think of a few organizations whose lines it might be a good idea to jam, Homeland Security would not be one of them.

Hell, if Janet Napolitano and Obama were half the tyrants Pat Robertson makes them out to be, wouldn't they be charging him with an act of terrorism?

I'll have a lot more about the DHS bulletin and the wingnut furor around it later today.

[A hat tip to Becky.]



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211 comments

..joins forces with T-Beck and MMauklin.

And thank Pat, thank him many, many times- ask to be sent everything free they have available

for that number. Remember folks, it's TOLL FREE

Pat Robertson is some of the finest entertainment going.

This sorry excuse for a "moral, right thinking, proud Ronny Rag Gun gop scumbag, is no different than uncle buck, limpballs and hammy.

They would have sex with themselves if that was possible.

And whackjobs give money to this shill.

Priceless.

..Fire in a crowded theatre if there were no fire? NO - Okay then. Nothing to see here, please move along.

That's his job: He yells "God said this!" when it's very clear God said nothing.

Fuck you Robertson, you hopeless bigot trash.

Your becoming like them with that kind of talk.

if it makes you feel better ... it is better than pent-up or letting it out on someone at home or at work!!

don't we.

a piece of bigoted trash, a piece of bigoted trash?
Robertson is an evil, petty, GREEDY, false prophet who sticks his nose in our business and our govt.s business.
Robertson needs to STFU, as do all the fake ass bible thumpin racist assholes.
I think the planet would SO much better off without the likes of them.

This POS is all hypocrite! Life is precious until it is born. After that, sorry, Charlie, you are on your own. Death penalty? Okie dokie. War? Peachy keano.

And personally, if I was to fuck with any governmental organization, DHS is NOT the one I would select. But hey, that's just me.

I wonder if he knows that he may be getting a visit from the DHS, because, that could be considered an act of terrorism.

They don't give a fuck about America.

Yea, if you jam up the lines, that's good.

OK, It's the Department of Homeland Security (a Nazi sounding name dreamed up by the Bush Admin), so aren't the phones at the DHS to be used for

DEFENDING AMERICA if need be???????

I would "urge" Pat Robertson and all the "outraged" righties in this country to do this:

Repeat: "President Obama, President Obama, President Obama....."

Keep repeating that until it sets in, you fucking lost an election and you probably are not going to like the policies of the guy who represents the political party you voted against.

Too bad. Deal with it. Vote in 2012 (good fucking luck with that one).

Peace.

the master of excuses.

And I don't always believe in the high road when dealing with scum.

)O(

Something to go with the Jonathan Livingston Seagull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgvJjw4VqY

what does that mean?

Electronic vet? video game general?

Cursing at someone punching you in the gut does not equate you in any shape way or form with the person punching you.

However, if what you want is obedient little victims... you are in the wrong site.

Fear makes you stupid. We created DHS out of fear, implemented illegal wiretaps out of fear, and now it's all coming home to roost.

As you once remarked about the 'gays, liberals, pagans and secularists' on 9/11 ...

"I say to you, 'YOU HELPED THIS HAPPEN.'"

Or, in Biblical terms, 'judge not, lest ye be judged and in the same measure.'

Robertson: "These people [pirates] are terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. The extreme Muslims are terrorists and they are being trained to destroy America."

What about all the signs I've seen lately about doing harm to the President? ..or taking away guns? ..or how Nazis and Communists are running the country? Please tell me why you are not concerned about that when clearly none of it is true?

...providing us with yet another photographic record of him performing an amazing feat of strength like leg pressing 2000 lbs?

and personally share your feelings on his prayer line.

n/c

That explains a lot....

That these clowns are right to worry about the slicing and dicing and listing and listening of the police state. The tragedy is that they didn't think of this when their hero Bush was actually installing it. I guess with a seven second attention span the thought that the Panopticom might one day turn its attentions to them never entered their (alleged) minds.

when they imagine that it's their police. So long as a moral, god fearing, white, Christian, "conservative" President is in the White House, then increasing the President's powers is fine with them and any cautions from liberals are treasonous and unamerican.

However, now that a visible minority, moderate, literate, diplomatic President is in power, then any exercise of the President's powers, new or old, is tyranny.

Between the religious right fundies and the Ayatollahs.
To me, they're all the same. And so are their followers.
All of um are nuts.

I lay the blame on all the sons of Abraham for most of the useless and divisive strife in today's modern world... They're all nuts indeed.

Interesting in how they keep forgetting Timothy McVeigh.

He was a veteran of the first Iraq War and became disenfranchised upon returning and we all know what happened from there... He became a mainstream conservative.

What about G. Gordon Liddy?

Honestly, what's his point? This report has nothing to do with religion, abortion, values etc...Senile much? When will he go the way of Fallwell and die finally. One less fake evangelical in the world wont hurt anyone.

They're perfectly fine when the Enemy is Over There.

Not so happy when it's Over Here.

Less happy when they're self-identifying with 'right-wing extremists.'

At least the truth is coming out this week that the viewers of the 700 club, Fox News and AM radio listeners are primarily crack pots, radicals and violent.

What an incredible coordinated twist these loons make to take a line in the report about right wing groups RECRUITING military (which has actual precedence) to make you believe that the report targets VETERANS.

Timothy McVeigh, Craig Orler and Gabriel Garafa, Demetrius "Van" Crocker, William Krar, Jim David Adkisson...

Are these Pat Robertson's conservative heros?

which everybody forgets is none other than Lee Harvey Oswald. So does anybody think that these "American extremists" can't be dangerous? And considering the large number of Skinheads and Aryan brothers who were accepted into the military because of the need to meet quotas, do they seriously think we should just ignore the problem?

do we keep giving these infantile people promotion?

Don't we have other things to do. Higher paths to tread?

I am grateful to C&L for their coverage of these fascist weasels.

You see, my household no longer supports the corporate cable cabals.

That means no teevee. No "news"papers either.

C&L keeps me current with what the corporatists are trying to get away with these days.

Ever had "conservatives" come after you with a metal pipe because they thought you were a homo? Ever had a gun pulled on you for the same homo-esque demeanor? Ever been threatened while travelling down south because of being a "Yankee"?

You take the higher path if you like. Some of us feel it's worth condemning ignorance, bigotry and the people who promote it.

On a side note, ever heard of Radio Rwanda and where it's hateful rhetoric lead?

)O(

A lot of people hereabout think I'm a Yankee.

you don't post your comments in a suthen accent.

suckcess, er excess, er regress, success, secess. That's it.
It's your score on the seccession analysis.

)O(

I have a somewhat quick, gutteral way of speaking.

Some people swear I speak with an accent, most commonly I hear German, South African, one guy on the phone called me a, "crazy Iranian."

For the life of me I can't remember ever having a cowboy hat. But you know how it is. Every kid seemed to get a red cowboy hat with white thread trim before he's three.

Could you imagine a real cowboy wearing a red hat?

Hopefully not in the bull-pen.

wear silver hats with blue stars. At least one got caught with his pants down, though.

Why would they think you are a Yankee? How would they know who you are? You never get out. You are always here. LOLOLOL

or at least chilly.

In fairness, if I had ys's views, I would not roam the streets of Plano often.

That Radio Rwanda is a very good analogy!!

machetes.

If anything this kind of stuff makes me feel like Cassandra.

When we went into Iraq, I was pointing out that the real danger spot was Pakistan, and that we hadn't finished the job in Afghanistan. Five years later, here comes the media and the politicians to tell us Pakistan is a danger spot, and we haven't finished the job in Afghanistan.

When the wiretap program came to light, I pointed out it was illegal. Gosh, and now, here's the media and the conservatives discovering that they don't like being spied upon.

I objected to torture, too. And here come the memos and the 'oh my gods!' and 'how dare they!' and 'they're criminals!'

Truth is, many of us HAVE been following the higher path by holding true to our laws and principles. It's the fear mongers who have been leading the country through a vile fen.

into their dens, then they will go away.

I understand vermin sympathizers do not like the bright light either...

Yeah Right! These evil sanctimonious asshats only care about the sanctity of life so long as it doesn't include liberals, gays, or the oh so scary brown people...oh my! They place more value on a blastula than they do on a woman's life... or the life of the child after it is born for that matter.

People like Robertson are anti-life, anti-family, anti-freedom, anti-education, and anti-American.

What do you hate America, Pat?

the sanctity of life after birth. There is a fair amount of overlap between Robertson's followers and the pro-death penaltiy, anti-social assistance, blame single mothers for their "poor" choices, lower my taxes and screw the poor(er) crowd.

Robertson and his ilk are pro-birth, not pro-life.

from conception to commencement of contractions?

I'm not at all sure their concern goes much beyond that point.

or citizenship.

)O(

Revoke his tax exempt status and start investigations immediately.

that the Bush administration staffers of DHS who prepared the report were graduates of Liberty University. Wasn't that the hot ticket to instant employment?

very well could be interpreted as an attack on America.
I wonder if pat would use the Lord's name in vain if some DHS agents broke down his door and took him away.

The radical right in America is just starting to learn that when you point your finger at others, you have 3 pointing back at you.

When these crazies passed these draconian laws and created these "Departments" I s said that these jokers were not going to be too happy when a Democrat took the White House and was running the government (you said it too). Never forget, "what goes around comes around."

Wait until us liberals start walking around town with our 50 caliber AK guns. They will be loading up the DHS lines for a different reason.

are starting to wobble on the evangelical kook bus again

They are worried about same sex marriage because their boyfriends will want them to get married and they will be outed.

Your last point is one I have thought about before. All these right-wing TV and radio nuts always prove they aren't scared of the government. Yet they demand their listeners/viewers do everything from jamming govt phone lines to worse things. If any listener/viewer had even a small amount of sanity, they would stop and think: "I don't want to call them if they are that bad! They would have my phone number and charge me with something!"

Of course, we all know the sane never listen to Pat Robertson et al anyway.

I suggest we tie up the 700 club's phone lines. I can't believe anyone would order people to jam DHS lines, which could prevent a real security issue from getting through.

These people are so out of touch, it's difficult to comprehend how their minds work. Who is the real threat here?

and pray for them

You bible thumpin anti-American piece of shit!
Stay outta politics you goddamn fuckstick!

++

These pseudo men of god make me extremely angry.
I grew up in the south ya know...and my mom, and other members of my family were duped by Jim Bakker.
I have absolutely NO tolerance for greedy SOB's who hide behind the cross.
Fuck them all!

I overlooked the headline in your original post. +++

This response is merely ++ and that is giving you full credit for the acronym.

I like to reserve my bile at the religious sect where they play dress up in ladies clothes and set half millenium lasting precedents for western civilization torture practices.
But I am old school. You can keep after these protestant usurpers for the rest of us.

Sometimes I like to let go and say what's on my mind.
It helps me feel less stressed out...

Ah...you must be speaking of the Cathoholics!

you mentioned. It is the one where their leader wears Gucci shoes and drives around in a convertible with a see through vinyl top. (Rev. Ike favored black vinyl on his GTO's). I think they worship apparitions on Mexican flat bread or something. They excommunicated my momma.
Because she married my pappa. Didn't want me born or summpin.

Okay...forgive my ignorance, but you lost me.

Ricky. He's like a Hispanic Confucius. An enigma wrapped inside a conundrum.

Even us ex Catholholics know better than to wrap our engima's in condundrums. It's a mortal sin and despite the claims, they do not enhance the sensation.

That's funny as hell, both of you!

)O(

Wrapped inside a condom.

(already used.)

your botz. Thats penis in German.

Just so you know, I took your advice from yesterday (re:faux news playing on all gym TV's) this morning they actually had CNN on THREE of the TV's, so, minuscule victory at best, but you kind of helped me to calm down and deal rationally, so - thanks. I grew up in the South as well, and hate these hypocritical fucktards with a vengeance.

Glad I could help!
Yeah, rational is the way to go 99% of the time. Sometimes I see red though, and have to calm myself down.
The televangelists are the scourge of the South for sure!

For taking Faux off the gym TVs (err, televisions, not transvestites) and ask them to pray Faux off the tavern TVs!

Let's see so no problem here... I'm only aware of one bank robbing spree, several gay bashing muggings and an underage girl's overdose at Fort Lewis Washington. No problem.

What a crock. Why is this idiot still around. Just like the rest of the Righties, they attempt to make their own truth. Tim McVey was an extremeist from the Right. In the military, there are extremeist and gang members and this can't be overlooked because of a bullshit preacher.
He's definitely no man of the Lord, he's a snake oil salesman, that's used the pulpit to earn billions, just like many other crooks.

"However, recent cases involving the assassination and attempted murder of abortion providers in both the U.S. and Canada have shown that perpetrators appear to be sheltered by a network of sympathizers."

→ → →[ http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm ]


Edit: "[on abortion providers] The word I got is that if the judges appointed by man will not deal with those who take innocent human life, then the Lord is going to enter in and bring justice. And when that happens many of the innocent will suffer along with the guilty."
[Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," January 1, 1996]

Amended: "...to argue with a man who has renounced
his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
"
[Thomas Paine, "The Crisis", quoted in Ingersoll's Works, Vol. 1, p.127]

Obama needs to come out with a statement to the effect that "either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." lol.

Or

you can read about this "Senator Son, Fortunate One" prick here

http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages...

why

Why do they feel like this is targeted at them? Aren't there some dangerous right wing groups? Why aren't they willing to admit that? Why aren't they willing to distance themselves from these people? Are they willing to say that Timothy McVeigh was right? If they're not, then they should be willing to say that there are right-wingers who are dangerous.

I've said it before. I don't see left wing types going around and killing people.

I saw a retired Vet expressing outrage over this... the talking douchebag actually brought up McVeigh - the "outraged" Vets response;

"Yeah, but that's just one guy..."

Honestly, are these people ALLERGIC to logic???

I think it's because the right wingers might group themselves in with the more violent types that they privately admire and consider to be heroes, but they would never admit it public...at least not yet.

)O(

How about we flood pat's phone with this call:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdCLobQnaQ&fe...

That made me jump out of my chair!

)O(

Come to think of it, this is a Texan too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvcxibuf9uk

)O(

Now this is how you woo a skirt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNGXdw2_6DM&fe...

Pretty racy stuff!

Thanks ys that was awesome.

I didn't know youtube had porn. And from 1934 too. Even the chimps were misogynistic politically incorrect back then.

Awe yes. I actually hung out with one of carol Burnett's daughters at a friend's house in Santa Monica back in 1985. I talked to her for over an hour and didn't know who she was until after she left.

.. Napolitano's comment directly, but I understand that she warned that rightwing extremists are targeting returning military to join them.

1. So how does this reflect on the military and veterans?

2. But didn't Blackwater target the same military, and are not many, maybe most of them ex-military? Where is the uproar?

3. Seems like Napolitano stated a fact.

is one of the primary reasons I no longer consider myself as a Christian. He's an asshole, because no one ever calls him out on his bullshit.

I consider myself a self-taught minor theologian, and when I read something that Pat Robertson says, it makes me think of this verse...

Mark 9:42 — And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.

I wouldn't allow people like that to draw you away from your beliefs. If you believe in Christ, then why don't you be the one to stand up against false teachers? The people may ridicule you, but "no prophet is accepted in his own country"

I spent a great deal of searching for the right answers... turns out there isn't a single "right" answer.

I've since adopted an approach that places man's relationship with God on a personal level and I've become a Deist (Gospel of St. Thomas). It fits more with who and what I am as a person and my belief system.

I still attend church occasionally, and I'll even offer my own bits of interpretation of the Bible during the Sunday School hour. Now, I just don't let religion run interference with my faith.

It's not just Pat, but most of the hypocrisy of most Christians I've run in to... the whole commercialization of church and Jesus... (didn't Jesus drive the moneychangers out of the church)... I'm sorry, but the coffee bar in the lobby was a bit much... and Hal Lindsey. I swear, that man has done more harm to the Christian faith than anyone else. He's the sole person on my list, that if I see him crossing the street, I may not slow down.

For the uninitiated, Hal Lindsey is the writer of "The Late Great Planet Earth" back in the 1970s and it sparked the entire post-modern evangelical movement for the End Times. His worked influenced the peckers that put together the Left Behind series.

)O(

Whaddaboot timothy lehaye?

Most mainstream Christians consider what he teaches a heresy.

I know some Christians (maybe they're not mainstream...) that fall over themselves to meet Lahaye.

The man couldn't write a proper limerick on a bathroom stall wall.

You know what... being in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt (Arkansas) is perhaps not the greatest of gauges of Christians.

Ya'll are the zipper

I don't know what's worse. Although, I may concede to your point, you do have Independence, MO. — Where Eden was once located and the supposed site where Christ will set up his earthly kingdom. (If you're a Mormon).

I worked for an evangelical chaplain for about 9 months. Most of the time he was a nice guy, but we got on the subject of homosexuality once and WOW!
I'm trying to remember, I'm not quite sure how he countered my "What about John 3:16?" argument. I think we agreed to drop the subject as we were just beginning a long car drive together and to start things off with a fight wouldn't have been a very productive idea.

Yo, this dude is a false teacher for real. He needs to read things such as Romans 12 and 13, talking about making peace with others, and obeying earthly authority. But 'ey, I've known him to be a false teacher since he said that whole "assassinate Chavez" ordeal. A true follower of Christ wouldn't call for someone's death, nor would they be bigoted towards any person, regardless of gender, race, politics, religion, etc.

Here they are, the real domestic terrorists - right wing conservatives.

What mean-spirited pricks. The American people finally saw what they are and voted them out, and all they can do is hold tea bag parties, encourage their listeners to jam DHS phonelines and bitch and moan about "poor us", and "wahhh, you're picking on me".

I'm glad the grown-ups are in charge again, because I've certainly had enough of these crybaby losers.

...Face as McBama Sanctions Attack on Freedom of Speech:"

Snip - "HEMPSTEAD, NEW YORK – At the gates of Hofstra University, a peaceful march by 400 members of Iraq Veterans Against the War and independent citizens was met by over 100 policemen who attacked the protestors when they refused to retreat and stop exercising their freedom of speech on October 15."

→ → →[ http://www.nolanchart.com/article5294.html ]

I'm sure you'll find most of these disgruntled at a tea-party.

If I was a right-wing extremist terrorist, I would get all my followers to flood the DHS hotline with calls so that the system will be disrupted and unable to respond when I unleash my holy war.

I guess for all their gasping and clutching of pearls for the last 8 years over how national security is the No.1 supermost serious issue, that all other issues must get in line behind; they once again show that it is all just a big game for them. Do they think the DHS hotline is the complaint line?

"When I first started working with the Pirahã, I realized that I needed more linguistics if I was going to understand their language. When I began to tell them the stories from the Bible, they didn't have much of an impact. I wondered, was I telling the story incorrectly? Finally one Pirahã asked me one day, well, what color is Jesus? How tall is he? When did he tell you these things? And I said, well, you know, I've never seen him, I don't know what color he was, I don't know how tall he was. Well, if you have never seen him, why are you telling us this?"

→ → →[ http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge213... ]

In 1968, the Chicago 8 were charged with multiple felonies for inciting less riotous government disruption than this. What would (old) Mayor Daley do?

I doubt you could find it now however. I saw it about 25 years ago, in high school.

Evangelicals are the bullies and hypocrites who believe the earth is 6,000 to 10,000 years old despite it being 4,500,000,000 years old. The "rationalization" that the word "day" may not mean 24 hours is an admission that the bible IS NOT a literal document, but one that is literally dependent on the reader's subjective interpretation rather than a verbatim dissemination of "god's words".

It's always amazed me that fundamentalists who claim to base their values on the words on a particular interpretation of the bible pick and choose which words ARE and ARE NOT to be interpreted literally.

Why should a book that has been translated numerous times from numerous languages by numerous biased and fallible human beings over a period of more than 2,000 years be necessary as proof of and or a justification for one's moral values? When faith itself is completely ethereal, why do so many people base their religious values on the written word?

The majority of people who place so much emphasis on a bible DO NOT practice the values in that bible nor do they project the grace and tolerance of a faithful believer. Where in any interpretation of any bible does it suggest that god wants people to use his words as a tool, weapon or political litmus test? The "Christians" who do that aren't just misinterpreting god's words; they are perverting them into political/cultural swords of sacrilege and unrighteousness.

)O(

What is disorganized religion, one without a liturgy or they have confirmation for the dead and bury babies?

but it was disorganized and confirmed the brain dead.

i don't remember if it was a caller or a guest, but he was explaining to ed schultz that there was a footnote (page 2, i think) that included individuals - 'so if i disagree with abortion, that makes me a terrorist' (paraphrasing)...

ed then read that footnote, and it does state that the threat "may include" individuals...

the atlanta olympic bomber comes to mind...

these idjits find and twist the words and perceptions to fit their psychotic paranoia...

but in this case, I am making an exception. I pray that the god this man so fervently believes in will call him home soon. Join Jerry in heavenly bliss and leave the real world a better place.
Amen.

But I doubt seriously that if there's a heaven, falwell sure as shit ain't there, and robertson ain't goin there either...there's a SPECIAL place in hell (if it exists) for assholes like them.

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)O(

Actually that was Cindy Sheehan's people.

They rented the land from it's owner before they bought it.

Are people now not allowed to rent, sell or use their lands as they see fit now according to the reichwing?

How's that grab ya?
It works both ways you choad huffin asshole.
Just because YOU say it, don't make it so either.
Sweet poledancin christ, do you even realize how absolutely INCORRECT your post is?
Look up projection you fucking knuckle draggin neanderthal!
I can have rational discussions all day long with people I disagree with...but you just showed to me, in one post, that you're a goddamn concern troll bitch, therefore, no respect is due.
And DON'T even bring up filibusters!
That's ALL YOU GOOPERS do!
So I say again,you can go FUCK yourself.

They'll help you!

... you have to recognize us Sith. :)

Potestatem obscuri lateris nescitis.

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is that you? Horay, Glenn came to visit us at C&L.

Check out the last line. I have not heard Beck accuse Obama's dog of being politically correct. Yet.

he was referring to a bag of sugar or something like that.

instead of bad peyote?

it's a special blend of both.

FUCK YOU.

One of my uncles was decorated for valor in World War II. Take your 'we would all be speaking German and saluting the Furher' and shove it up your ass.

I would have fought in WWII if I was old enough. My daddy would have too if he wasn't too old, in the oil business, and had flat feet. We did out part by not buying German cars. We delayed buying Japanese cars until 1991. Fifty years is enough.

Dad served in Korea. (So did my father-in-law.)

I was a kid during Vietnam, but having worn glasses since 2nd Grade, I'd probably have been rejected for eyesight anyway (20/400 in my left eye). When I turned eighteen, I promptly went to the post office and registered for selective service.

As an adult, I volunteered for three years as a docent aboard the USS Hornet, and had the honor to serve with some top-notch gentlemen. Though this was after 9/11, the real reason was that I'd taken my Dad to the museum - he was beginning to exhibit the signs of Alzheimer's, and the trip to the Hornet brought back some of his older memories for a brief time.

I had two uncles in WWII. One would have been the youngest Navy pilot except for George H.W. and he got shot down as a marine aviator. The other ran over a mine in a tank in the Pacific. And my father really was a flat footed oil company geologist who was also ruled either too old or too valuable to serve. Or so he told us before he passed out every night.

)O(

Well as y'all all know I've repeated ad nauseam about my Air Force experience and Top Secret Clearance. Everytime I moved I had to let the Air Force know where I was, since I was sworn to secrecy for ten years because of my Top Secret Clearance.

The minute the ten years were up you told everybody. I downloaded the clip.

)O(

I found out that the reason was apparently my clearance was bordering on something I think was called Cypher clearance. If we were at war, and the base was attacked, American soldiers were authorized to kill us.

not attacking your station?

By the way, if Rush had had cypher clearance he would have served too.

and thank the Pat!

Another right wing paid with meth troll stopping by to take a dump and remind us why they fucking lost.

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I don't hate you dude, any more than I would hate a harmless, smelly, mentally ill homeless person...you're just as logical and coherent...only you don't have an excuse.

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a logical discussion, you have to start with a logical discussion. When are you going to start?

)O(

Okay, here you go: may your camel spit in your eyes...may the ground not receive thee...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGPhpvqtOc

... you come in here, insult my patriotism and (indirectly) my family's honor, and you expect me to be polite?

Count yourself fortunate that we no longer settle matters of honor with sword or pistol, as I am acquainted with both.

Good day, Sir.

)O(

Actually that's Ahmadinejad.

What's with all the incoherent reichwingers lately and their over-use of ellipses?

)O(

Actually, it was under the Democrats that we entered World War II, although Pearl Harbor was the Causus Bellum.

Republicans tried to keep us out of the war.

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