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It's becoming evident that conservatives no longer consider open advocacy of violence against other people anything more than a mild social faux pas, an embarrassing slip of the tongue, if those people happen to be their "enemies" -- liberals, Muslims, immigrants, gays and lesbians, anyone who fits the description of The Other.

That's been made evident in two recent incidents involving violent eliminationist rhetoric from right-wingers in high-profile positions -- cases that, had roles been reversed and the targets instead were Republicans, would have certainly aroused not just the wrath of the right-wing talk machine but numerous "centrists," and the persons who uttered them would have been summarily fired.

The first involved a math teacher in Jefferson County, Alabama, who helped illustrate a geometry problem for his students by having them figure out the shooting angles for assassinating President Obama. Initially, everyone in town, including school officials, were happy to make excuses for him and let him off easy. It wasn't until there was broad national outrage over the story that they wound up giving him a suspension:

Gregory Harrison, the teacher at Corner High School in Jefferson County, Alabama, was to receive a slap on the wrist in the form of a "long conversation" with the local school authorities, after sparking a Secret Service investigation when he discussed possible angles to use in shooting at the president.

But officials only later decided they needed to take tougher action against Harrison following a flood of calls from people outraged at the lenient treatment.

Last week in Houston, a talk show host named Michael Berry -- who at one time was the city's Mayor Pro Tem -- went on his regular show and, during an exchange with a Muslim man named "Tony", declared that if Muslims dare build a mosque in the near vicinity of the World Trade Center site in New York City, then he hopes someone blows it up.

From Amanda Terkel at ThinkProgress:

BERRY: No, Tony, you can’t build a mosque at the site of 9/11.

TONY: Why not? Why not?

BERRY: No, you can’t. And I’ll tell you this: If you do build a mosque, I hope somebody blows it up. ... I hope the mosque isn’t built, and if it is, I hope it’s blown up. And I mean that.

Let me tell you something, Tony. It's the right-wing nutjobs that are gonna keep this for people like you from the people that come for ... It’s right-wing radicals like me that are going to keep this country safe for you and everyone else from the people who are flying the planes from the country you fled from. If you want to identify with those people, go live with them.

This, of course, comes only a short while after someone in Florida actually did try to blow up a mosque.

At what point does this become outright incitement?

Berry, predictably, made a typical right-wing "apology":

While I stand by my disagreement of the building of the mosque on the site, I SHOULD NOT have said “I hope someone blows it up.” That was dumb, and beneath me. I was trying to show “Tony” how much I opposed his opinion, but I went too far. For that, I apologize to my listeners.

How about an apology to the Muslims whose lives he wished openly would be ended by a "right-wing nutjob"? Heaven forfend that he would apologize to his actual victims.

Typically, Berry was defiant at his website, sneering at efforts by Muslim Americans to hold him accountable to the incendiary attacks. (Kinda like Glenn Beck that way.)

Right-wingers like Berry, and Pam Atlas, and Michelle Malkin, and on and on, want everyone to just declare all of Islam our "Enemy" and be done with it. Look at how Berry ranted at "Tony":

But I'll tell you this -- whatever country you came from? If a Christian in the name of Christianity or a Jew in the name of Judaism had dared do what you did, you would issue a fatwa for everyone looked just like 'em! And for a thousand years you wouldn't allow a temple or a Christian church to be built there. And you damned well know it!

You see, in the minds of guys like Michael Berry, all Muslims are guilty of having caused the 9/11 attacks. They're wired to think that way, and nothing, not even reality, will shake them out of it.

This cropped up in Tea Party leader Mark Williams' vicious remarks about Muslims while leading a protest against the WTC mosque:

Mark Williams, chairman of the Tea Party Express, blogged about the 13-story mosque and Islamic cultural center planned at Park Place and Broadway, calling it a monument to the 9/11 terrorists.

"The monument would consist of a Mosque for the worship of the terrorists' monkey-god," Williams, a frequent guest on CNN, wrote on his Web site.

His statements drew a sharp rebuke from City Hall and the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a national Muslim civil rights and advocacy group.

... "It would be shocking if such ignorant comments failed to elicit a strong response not only from Tea Party leaders, but from other parties throughout the political spectrum," said Corey Saylor, the Muslim rights group's national legislative director.

It's not shocking at all -- because there was no such strong response, of course, nor will there be.

For the Right, that's just a "strong opinion." In essence, mainstream conservatives now condone this kind of talk -- because, evidently, they see nothing wrong with it.

One can only imagine what would have happened if someone had said similar things about Catholics or Baptists, or if a liberal geometry teacher had taught students how to shoot President Bush -- the nonstop outrage at Fox, the breathless denunciations on talk radio, the hand-wringing by Beltway Villagers.

Funny how it never seems to work in the other direction, isn't it?

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ysbaddaden's picture
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Wow check out the size of that booger

Wait...no...the other one, on my fingertip...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ronspri's picture

xe·no·pho·bia
Pronunciation: \ˌze-nə-ˈfō-bē-ə, ˌzē-\
: fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign

The right has decided that conservative/christian is the default position for the US. Anything else is illegitimate in their eyes. I see them promoting xenophobia,preemptive war,torture, warrantless wire taps et al and wonder what is conservative or christian about any of it. As much as I've tried and as much as I want them to be included, I just can't take them as rational actors anymore. They are dismissed from serious discussion.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

freequark's picture

People on the right think American is a synonym for conservative Christian.

People on the left think any restrictions on immigration is tantamount to genocide.

People in the center think gay marriage is compatible with fundamentalist Christianity.

There is very little common sense in this country anymore, and the few people who do think rationally are hated and repressed by all three political factions.

ricky's picture

Christian gaiety was FUN da Mental.


TFR

pros54's picture

Scaredd of saying what you really think? May be you should just say nothing. A three are nuts. yea right!

gwilliam's picture

"People on the left think any restrictions on immigration is tantamount to genocide"NO THEY DONT.

"People on the left think any restrictions on immigration is tantamount to genocide." NO THEY DONT.

"few people who do think rationally are hated and repressed by all three political factions" WHAT DRIVEL

Peter G's picture

Relax, so do they. Did you ever ask yourself why they all think they're rational and you're not?


Hasa Diga Eebowai

famousde's picture
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Navy Vet's picture

Sunshine, you need to get out more. Travel. See the world (not just your little lily-white LITB corner of it). Experience other cultures. Meet people.

Speaking of "selling their own mother and country in pursuit of the vote", how's Gramps McCain doing? Or Twitchy McConnell? Or the rest of your slobbering, do-anything-to-appease-the-base bunch of pandering fools?

So, fail. Thanks for playing. Sorry, we have no lovely parting gifts for the likes of you.


"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green
Freedom Ain't Free - Pay Your Share

mudshark's picture

Don't you remember? Boosh won fair and square by a 5-4 margin.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

How about white american christian terrorist pigs? Maybe we ought to get them first since the are right here and all. I'm pretty upset at the major failing your reshaping made of our country too . I'm tired of having christian and conservative jammed down my throat as the default position for my country....go ahead, succeed, we are never going to come to agreement. As someone below said, I couldn't be prouder to oppose nearly every thing you proclaim to stand for(when you guys can figure out what that is).

karoli's picture

that violence somehow "makes things safe" seems to have trumped all else. Freedom of religion is only permitted if it's Christian religion. Just sickening, these stories.

These are the American Taliban. They can relate to the Afghanistan Taliban. American wing nuts are like extremists anywhere else in the world. Like everywhere else in the world they are what's wrong with the world.

American wing nuts, foreign wing nuts, they're all the same.

The Rethuglicans have nothing, nothing to offer, but misery.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

ricky's picture

They have to deal with inappropriate nearby land uses in the more dignified, Texas manner.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,241897,00...

(BTW, Katy is, for all intents and purposes, Houston)


TFR

Infopro's picture

Republicans and fox news are a virus in our system and that virus is growing, infecting everything it touches, and getting worse by the day.

Just look at new on C&L or MMfA and it's plain to see we've got a much larger problem than anyone will admit to.

Worried about that oil spill? That's nothing compared to what's going on EVERYWHRE else in this country.

ysbaddaden's picture
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I got a virus growing on my toes:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VefGl8F2hEs/Sx6EWq2...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ricky's picture

Marley.


TFR

Radically Moderate ad infinitum's picture

....you better do it on the good foot.......on the good foot....gotta do it on the good foot....yeah, good gawd!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAfBZbz3tI


'Talk to the hand'

Kreskin's picture

I agree . The Republican right wing has become a cancer .I do not think this country will ever recover from the eight years of Bush / Cheney and the Repugs .

would prefer the explosives go off a few blocks futher south.


TFR

sciguy's picture

I have no idea what you're saying.

Bugs222's picture

. . . Christ's instruction to "love thine enemy?" So-called Christians who advocate violence for any reason are on a par with their forebears who launched bloody, ruinous Crusades hundreds of years ago, Muslim suicide bombers, and Jews who subjugate Palestinians (and then wonder why the Palestinians fight back) and then kill the same folks they subjugate. God, save me from your people, especially those who kill in your name because they mistakenly think that they're the "chosen ones," as if the Creator picks favorites.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

for your foot?


TFR

MountainMan23's picture
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During the "Great Awakening" of Evangelical "Christianity" in the early 1800s it was decided that the ENTIRE BIBLE is the Word Of God.

So many "Christians" fail to notice that Jesus was a bit of a reformer, and apparently few have bothered to even READ the New Testament, except for all that Apocalyptical Stuff in "Revelations."

For instance, my Evangelical neighbor was totally surprised when I pointed out Jesus' disapproval of Public Prayer.

Although a lifelong "Christian" she had never read that passage!


Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!

ysbaddaden's picture
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Actually that goes back to the XVI Century with the Five Solae: Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia, Solus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria and Oh Solo Mio...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
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Perhaps this would explain it easier:

Sigeo

Khaeos

Phos

Logos

Mathema

Aksiopistia

Lysis

Musterion

(I came up with this list whilst riding on the bus to work one morning, and listening to Van Halen on my I-Pod...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

That Dallas Metro really caters to those with foot problems.


TFR

VJBinCT's picture

Would that musterion be Grey Poupon?

ysbaddaden's picture
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Mystery beyond which there is no knowing, comparable to the Latin Occultus...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktZSjanDIvg


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

picketed and their local sponsors need to asked WTF?

if limbaugh and hannuty and beck can blast it out of 1000 radio stations and get a free speech free ride from the people they attack and lie about all day it becomes acceptable. and it has.

Domestic terrorists and saboteurs , I'm talking Fox , Beck ,Hannity , Limbaugh etc. and the Republicans , they have done far more damage to this country than foreign terrorists .

Republicans have ubundantly reveiled themselves to be unworthy of consideration for political positions going forward. There is nothing there for America.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Retired Navy's picture

These kind of people from the right are goading their slightly less intelligent cousins into action. It's basically the same practice they use with regard to the military which is to get someone else to do it. Seems the Right is full of people who are afraid of what's behind every corner and shadow and too scared to do the fighting for themselves.

ya. Manipulating.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Sammy67's picture

nut jobs, like Michael Berry, who are pushing their followers toward violence is that Michael Berry won't be anywhere near the violence.

Nor have they figured out that violence works two ways.

Sammy67's picture

less intelligent cousins?

"On top of 9/11"

what does that even mean?

Old Smokey.


TFR

a suicide bomber trifecta that domino'd into the worst skyscraper disaster in history. a display that temporarily provided catalyst for the greatest nation in history, under the supervision of a wing nut executive branch, to get wagged by a rag tag band of mid eastern wing nuts.

May that never happen again, and thank god we have president Obama to prevent further degradation of American principles.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

... all covered with cheese.

Berry said:

"...It's the right-wing nutjobs that are gonna keep this for people like you from the people that come for ... It’s right-wing radicals like me that are going to keep this country safe for you and everyone else..."

At least he self-identifies as a right-wing nutjob. When people show you who they are, believe them.


I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all

Cowicide's picture

Berry needs to get arrested for blatantly advocating violence over the airwaves. He needs to go to prison for this. Apologies don't make illegal acts legal. Put Berry in prison.

Winski's picture

Both these public gas bags should be put in this little cubby-hole in Colorado for a few days and see how they like being treated equally...

Then, they can be returned to their daily lives with a choice....

I keep in mind the fact that people like this are a passel of cowards who prefer to rile others up to do their fighting for them.
The parallel in history would be the decades leading to the Civil War, all of the various pro-slavery types ( the radical right-wing of the day) would use the exact same tactics we are seeing today so much so that it eventually led to a real war.
The frightening thing is that today’s secessionists don’t have the courage nor the resources to form a confederate army (well they could but they would be even more outgunned than the real Confederates were), they are more likely to become a full-blown Al-quada-like terrorist organization right here in America.
The good news is they don’t stand a chance of overthrowing the government in favor of whatever right-wing fascist utopia their fevered little minds may create. The bad news is they can and will cause all sorts of chaos and death before they are brutally put down like rabid dogs.


When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-

project's picture

That everything these right wing idiots cause comes back to them 10 fold.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

too me, this is the good news because I believe it inevitably has to.

Larmar's picture

It should be an inter-faith center where people of all faiths can go and worship or nothing. If that offends Muslims, then to bad, so sad.

The Sailor's picture

Everyone is welcome in the mosque and in the surrounding areas. Can your church say the same?

oldretire's picture

to the Dumb,Stupid, Ignorant AMERICAN the mosque will NOT be built.

Muslims are more Hateful and self centered then christians, they use their acceptance as the Wedge to open the door to justify their control.

Much like the Racist, hate and Fear Mongering christian, why do you think the Ill. Supreme Court struck down the moment of Silence , because ANYONE who has ever dealt with a Racist, Fear and Hate Mongering christian knows that is their wedge to get Prayer into school and the Theocracy for the American people.

Now apply the same principals to the muslim, DUH! no discussing their deity that is a insult to them BUT they DESCICRATE OUR beliefs in the name of their Fictitious god. No book can sit on top of the KORAN, so you Wacky christians with your book of fairy Tales will be going to WAR (which you LOVE so much) for putting your book on top of theirs.

These are a people with a religion that has NO respect, NO Understanding, NO Tolerance for Anyway but their way.

Might I refer the reader to France, Belgium and Germany as a few of the Countries dealing with minor slave trade in the tradition of muslim beliefs.

Facebook just had to apologize to the Arab world because they felt insulted, so I say if the Arab wants to maintain HIS way of life it ends when you come in PUBLIC, your Religious Laws END when you commit a crime of murder or abuse against your wife and children. Your Religious belief as with the christian is restricted to your home and your mosque, I can understand but you WILL NOT nor WILL I give up MY personal beliefs FREEDOMS to accommodate your outlandish religious beliefs I am tolerant to the point of your Intolerance getting in the way of MY personal FREEDOM.

You see as the nutty whacked out christian is so concerned for me and your concrened for me if their is a Diety as you proclaim I am answerablke to him and NOT any of you FREAKS who demand everything and give nothing but Pain,Misery and Hatred.

As long as one Freak is the only one to have their PHONY Deity talking to him and accept NOTHING fromanyone else you all are TOTAL EVIL.

NO MOSQUE at the Towers Socialist Corporate Business Center.

leftykook's picture

You forgot to take your lithium!


"Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

Canucktivist's picture

oh forget it. Listen to Diderot.

Theism in general is ridiculous. The evil perpetrated in the name of God is TOTAL.

famousde's picture
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Your "opinion" doesn't count as fact. And if that's your opinion, I'm DAMN PROUD to be your enemy. You disgust me... and to think I defended your "right" to spew such foul drivel.


"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green
Freedom Ain't Free - Pay Your Share

Joffler's picture

I no longer tune in to KTRH 740 AM in Houston for Astros ballgames. I only tuned in for the games. Everything else on there is Reich Wing propaganda. But one day not too long ago, I turned on my car radio where I'd left it on 740 after listening to a game the day before and got Michael Berry talking something about how there aren't enough Pastors keeping Black people in line. I thought to myself that if he could say that freely on the air, what else couldn't he say? And then and there I decide I wasn't going to even tune in for Astros ballgames anymore. Michael Berry is local but as much of a douche as the other KTRH stars--Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, etc.

Loath_GOP's picture

I hope someone punches that belligerent yahoo right in his filthy mouth.

cycle3man's picture
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Reslugs are the terrorists in the U.S.A.

Libertarian in Jax's picture

I am what you would call a right-winger. I try to be a good person.
I don't want anyone dead except those people who want me dead. And I don't want to punch anyone in the mouth even when they are lying or stealing on national television or using hyperbole or getting carried away. And I try to attack policy and not people. And I volunteer and give to charity. And I was poor until I put myself through college and graduated at 31 years old. And my husband went through the entire long process to legally become a citizen (before he married me). I just think we should all play by the same rules. Why does that make me worthy of being punched in the face? I'm for freedom. It's just that simple. Let people make a lives for themselves. People don't need to be babied all their lives. Americans are capable and used to be hard-working people. Why all of the bashing? Does anyone want to discuss an issue rationally and see if we can understand each other? Is this the wrong blog for me?

CartoonCoyote's picture
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Yes. Now piss off.

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