Contessa Brewer: Maybe it's the Republicans with deaf ears on the stimulus!
I'm shocked. Contessa Brewer finally starts stating the obvious. Republicans have been obstructionists during the stimulus plan and maybe playing politics with the country instead of trying to actually solve our problems. But for her to confront it head on for a change was quite refreshing.
Debra Cooper writes this in an email with a rough transcript:
Is this a break in the media ice in their definition of bipartisanship?...it's the Democrats' responsibility to do it the Republican way..not that it's Republicans who should cooperate with the Dems and the president. I found this astonishing.....because I have never seen her as toeing the CW Broder line before. Contessa Brewer and John Harwood interview Sheryl Gay Stolberg of NY times, someone who took a lot of dictation from George Bush.
Brewer: Is President Obama able to control his message against than the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism Can he slowly change the ways of Washington?
Stolberg: Obama wanted a big bipartisan vote and he didn't get it. He passed it just like George Bush passed his...by pushing through a one party bill.
Harwood: Are you being a Nattering Nabob of Negativism by pointing to that when the guy's a 66% and he's just got this 800 Billion package through?
Stolberg: I would say I am being a Nattering Nabob of Fairness, not such good alliteration there....
Stolberg: Obama went courting Republicans...he framed bill as a show of unity. Instead it could have been a lesson in setting expectations. We need this measure and if it get Republican votes fine, but it's a high priority for us.
Brewer: Isn't that what he did say though, I mean Didn't he do just that....Cocktails etc. Reaching across the aisle. But they wanted what? a Republican stamp on the bill. After all the Democrats won.
Stolberg: (long reply about the "I won" statement from POTUS meaning nothing) Even so the pres made such a strong point in his campaign of about changing the ways of Washington, it couldn't help but be a disappointment when it didn't get republican votes.
Brewer: Perhaps it was the Republicans with the deaf ears on that front
Stolberg (Taken aback and stutters) "Well perhaps.....
Brewer: Let's make that the last word on that
Stolberg: Okay I'll let you have the last word.
Notice how uncomfortable Stolberg is when she's confronted by Brewer about the deaf ears Republicans have? She can barely respond to the thought that it might be their fault. The Beltway elitist class of reporting Stolberg brings to this segment is why this nation is falling apart. Why was it so hard for her to admit that Republicans did not bargain in good faith with President Obama?
It really shouldn't be that difficult or uncommon.
..until you've been inside that reality distortion field know as "The Beltway" you have no idea how uncommon it is!
Hitler rose to power with bipartisan support.
We invaded Iraq with bipartisan support.
NAFTA was passed with bipartisan support.
Bipartisanship is like a shovel, you can use it to plant a tree, or kill someone.
good point
... it's wall street.
if the F.B.I. can't get 'em on political corruption, nail 'em all on drug charges. there's probably more cocaine on wall st. than the rest of the 5 boroughs combined.
i mean, they couldn't get capone on anything, until they got him on taxes -then he got to go to prison for life and watch his d!ck rot off.
obama campaigned on the notion/idea/intentions of bringing change. i get a kick out of people who go into their black and white thought process when speaking about obama after 3 plus weeks in the white house. the change has to include the intentions/the trying to bring compromise/diplomacy into the white house/capitol hill. we just got out of 8 yrs of authoritarian rule. it's NOT as easy as a light switch. the division devised by gingrich,delay and rove takes time. the (R) do NOT want obvious bipartisanship. they do NOT want that word to resonate with the public. this is more deception to manipulate the public. wanting to change/trying to change is essentially change. ok....obama haters come and get me.
Obama pre-loaded the bill with Republican goodies thinking the Republicans in Congress would be appreciative and understanding. Big mistake when dealing with dishonest scoundrels.
In the future, he'll hold these goodies back as bargaining chips. (And pooh to you around here who say he's so brilliant. It was a stupid error on his part. That fact that even Reed and Pelosi didn't figure that out is even more troubling.)
In the meantime, when will somebody start questioning the patriotism of these Republicans in Congress? Why not ask them the basic question: "Why do you hate America so much?"
This bill was crafted to bring dems of all views into it's passage. You can't have a far left bill when the only dems who will support it are far left.
What items would have originated with "the far left"? We certainly know what originated with the far right. If a bill can pass with a far right hand in its crafting, why can't a bill pass with some far left concerns included?
I'm a little tired of hearing far right principles justified by claiming, "At least these principles weren't far left. That would make everybody unhappy, can't have a bill like that."
Money to people who pay no income tax is considered a far-left position and it is part of the stimulus.
Are you talking about more tax cuts for the wealthy?
Or dinky refunds for those who don't have a large enough income to pay taxes?
Corporate welfare? Bailouts with taxpayer money?
To whom do you refer?
This is a silly Republican meme that needs to put to rest for the lie that it is.
Everyone with an earned income, large or not, pays taxes ... Social Security and Medicare, and if you don't cap out, it's 7.65%
Even if you don't have an income, you're paying sales and property taxes. And yes, you're paying property taxes even if you don't own a house, a portion of your rent goes to pay for those property taxes.
Repug reporters like this turd need to be shoved aside.
Reporters like this are not journalists. They are paid to manufacture opinion and consent. Turd is not a good description, because manure can in fact be used to help plants grow. Her kind kills. Literally.
just like o'reilly, limbaugh, hannity. and i can't think of any left-winged on air personalities like those three. they are killing journalism
died decades ago. What you see now is disinformation designed to sway the masses. Nothing more.
I disagree!
Disinformation can be used to sell useless shit to idiots also.
Need to be Terminated with Extreme Prejudice.
I just love that phrase! It has a certain pizzazz.
Actually, it was written by William Safire.
"Pusillanimous pussyfooters" and "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history".
Who can forget those classics, indeed!
Suffering succotash of lazy alliteration.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
she sells sanctuary
:)
These people kill me. Yes, Obama made a big show about unity and bipartisanship, but if Republicans respond to compromise with lockstep obstructionism, it's *Republicans* who are to blame, not Obama.
It's just ludicrous the way they frame these things. I wonder if they really are that dense, or just going out of their way ingratiate themselves to their employers.
It's their employers! What are their names again?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Stolberg was flummoxed. You could almost see her thinking during those few seconds of awkward pause, "Wait, this isn't the way the game is played. You're not supposed to speak the truth about Republican obstructionism and opportunism. We're supposed to talk about how Obama failed to get Republicans on board because that's what everyone else is on TV is saying." She was so not expecting Brewer to stray from that well-worn script that she didn't even have a response. Sad and disgusting and so out of touch. When do we get to see someone on TV with insight and critical thinking skills?
When TV networks have something to be gained by that.
Mostly when TV networks no longer have things they want to shelter us from - things they want to hide from us.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
About two days after the Fairness Doctrine is reinstated, and the corporate monopoly ownership is dismantled. When exactly that will be, is anybody's guess.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
I emailed her and used this post as my talking points. Well done!!
another example of why the New York Times is a:) not liberal b:) highly overrated.
maybe NOT as liberal but "highly" overrated is NOT entirely fair.
some of their reporting is solid, but their list of pundits and opinion makers masquerading as reporters is questionable. Starting with the reprehensible William Kristol all the way back to Nixon hack William Safire. Phony as a 3 dollar bill Maureen Dowd to Judith "I was boffing Scooter Libby and all I got was a book on germs and a cameo on Fox" Miller. The editorial page lead the cheers for Iraq, withheld damaging information about Bush's reign of error, and basically cowed to that administration's intimidation.
as far as pure journalism goes in the paper it is pretty good, for the most part. The Op-ED pieces do tend to be liberal but that doesn't matter the wall street journal is conservative but still a good paper
press is biased meme and started to go with the more simplistic
theme that it is populated with people who are not very smart?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
that theme would absolve the press from their blame.
People who are born dumb can't really help it, bias on the other hand requires plenty of intent and deliberation.
that there are SO FEW moments of clarity like this from this modern bunch of "journalists."
He'll keep holding out his stick of bi-partisan outreach... and by 2010 the Republicans WILL BE CHOKING ON IT.
Anybody think it's possible that Republicans will LOSE HALF THE SEATS in contention in two years? I think they are headed for near political EXTINCTION. How will Hannity do his HATE RADIO when all that's left is BONES AND DUST?
but how is that promoting his message of reaching across the aisle and changing washington, unless his change was to have a one party congress????
Repeat after me:
The GOP is the Party of No.
They had their little slogans they trotted out about Democrats when they were in power. Time to give them a taste of their own medicine
Party of No.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), we don't have the equivalent of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Fox News, et al, to make our talking points stick through volume and repetition.
you're more correct than you may realize. the (R)/NEOCONs are masters of negative linguistic framing. in my opinion it's easier to do with their following. it's my experience that many (R) are black and white thinkers that have little problem with deception/self-deception to survive/for the cause. most liberals i know are grey spectrum thinkers. both types have their own characteristics,strengths and weaknesses. it's much easier to explain/lie/partial truths using sound bites. liberal explaination may require hour long interviews/debates. the devil is in the details for us. for them they often( NOT always) just want sound bites/talking points without substance. easier for the wiring of black and white thinkers.
and as they say only sith deals in absolutes
occurred to Stolberg.
Her other answers were just as bad: "Yes, I know the GOP was on a partisan mission to destroy the economy and the presidency, but I'm going to say it was Obama's fault because that way I won't get hundreds or angry dittohead phone calls."
The Republiborg collective pre programs its drones with one answer approved by the Collective. This answer was programmed into Drone Stolberg's Neocon memory chip. Contessa's memory chip was defective and due for recall, unfortunately enabling her to accidentally utter a truthful statement that to Stolberg was a non sequitur. Fortunately, the Collective administrator was able to assist by remotely rebooting Droid Brewer's chip enabling her to terminate the conversation.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
That interview was so much more pleasant to listen to than the average fox news one, the guest was given their chance to say their piece, and the interviewer had a good response to it. (Even if you don't agree with their opinion).
it's much easier to denounce/talk down the opposing view if you do NOT even let them get their full point across. fox does this routinely to their benefit. it also happens on cnbc when they don't want to hear something that may have some truth to it. they don't want to hear opposing views. their audience just wants to hear what they want to hear. it's the self-deception cycle. the truth/opposing views hurts too much.it may interfere with their thoughts and possibly dilute their deception.
i have to agree. me being the conservative voice
I guess the media whores and their fascist owners finally get it? They finally realize that if they continue to buck the now overwhelming majority of american people, they all will become obsolete within the next year.
People are using computers and turning off their cable television; they've already ditched the day-old news of the print media and are making them extinct as we type.
These fascists and reichwing media whores now realize that they're all sliding down the rabbit hole of irrelevancy.
actually, the most fair and balanced news can be found in newspapers, which is why newspapers and almost to an equal degree cable news is trying to gain a beachhead on the internet. Network news like CNN,MSNBC,FOX are entertainment driven. If they pepper a few facts in there its good but not necessary. The internet news allows us to be involved but is the least reliable as a news source but an effective way of checking the information on the news
You sound like you've been programmed by the Council on Foreign Relations.
The only news sources that are reliable, are found on the internet and financed by the people that read/watch them, not by corporations that want to sell you something.
The MSM system on the entire planet is owned by six people. These six people do not want you or me to know what is really going on in the world.
Damn right it's the Reslugs with deaf and uncaring ears, since the Relsugs were the ones that got us in this recession mess in the first place.
Not being much of a TV watcher, I wanna' ask. Who is Contessa Brewer, other than someone occupying a spot on MSNBC? Does she usually take a right-wing stand? Is this kind of comment new for her?
I see Lou dobbs is still rolling in the republican slop pit too today.
He's doing the Republicans have Obama off balance shtick! My ass lou Dobbs. Bye now, mr. independent.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
"The fact that Reid and Pelosi didn't figure that [the Rs don't play fair] is even more troubling."
The fact that you thought this was more troubling is stunning to me. They were the majority "leaders" for two years and couldn't accomplish anything except what Bush wanted.
I have a text on evolution with pictures of those two in the invertebrate section.
While I don't hate Obama, he has certainly lived down to all my expectations: giving away the farm on the stimulus bill up front; continuing to believe that the Rs had any intention of playing fair; hiring Timothy Geithner and Larry Summers; keeping Robert "I'm all about Goldman Sachs" Rubin around; not firing Odierno and Petreus; not moving immediately to investigate Bush, Cheney, et al, on war crimes; hiring Hilary "I was fooled on Iraq" Clinton, etc, etc, and so forth.
And, if any of you want details on these items, let me know.
"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." - Dresden James
Republicans are practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and insurrectionary OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.
Republicans AREN’T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they’re using conflicting economic theories as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.
Republicans are preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.
Republicans are trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from undoing the calamities of a Republican presidency.
Republicans are offering controversial arguments they know no one can agree on to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They’d rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance. That’s how they gained power and that’s how they’re trying to retain it.
Republicans are not the LOYAL OPPOSITION. They are the ENEMY WITHIN whose personal priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that treachery and betrayal are their preferred methods of operation.
It’s one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it’s another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America’s government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican corporatism and extremism that have poisoned and crippled America.
I misread your posting slightly. I thought Contessa was Cuntessa and
"she took dictation from Bush" as "she took dick from Bush". Apologizes
to former prez Dick Nixon.
Amazing look on the face of the reporter when confronted with Republican obstructionism. You could call it cognitive dissonance in action.
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