March 18, 2009 03:00 PM
John McCain throws his daughter under the bus
You would think that John McCain would stick up for his own daughter against the right-wing kook fringe like Coulter and Ingraham after she was attacked not over her ideas, but her body composition, right? I mean any father would say to knock that off. It's out of line. The Limbaugh National Committee already hates him.
And he still couldn't do the fatherly thing. What a guy. What a dad.
Digby explains.
I know families can be complicated, I have to deal with my 82 year old father who just pulled a not-so-smart move that I'm not happy about, but who doesn't have a "family issue?" I wouldn't stand for a character attack on him, though. So I'm kinda shocked that John McCain used Twitter to comment about his daughter, and it's kinda disturbed that he hung her out to dry.Today, in his “Twitterview” with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) shied away from condemning Ingraham’s gratuitous attacks on his daughter. Stephanopoulos asked McCain, “What do you think of Meghan’s feud with Coulter and Ingraham?” McCain first said, “I’m proud of my daughter and she has a right to her opinions.” When asked if he agrees with his daughter, McCain did not say, simply stating, “like any family we agree on some things and disagree on others.”What kind of a man is this that he can't even defend his daughter against personal insults from the likes of Laura Ingraham? He doesn't even have a political motivation, as low and cynical as that might be. He won't be running for president again. He's never been a favorite of the right wing and has no reason to curry favor with them now. Everything we know about him would suggest that he thinks right-wingers like Coulter are political poison. They sure aren't friends of his. I think he believes that Megan deserves to be spoken to like that because he probably speaks to her that way himself. Although she's quite lovely, she's not physically a perfect Barbie like her mother or Sarah Palin -- or Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham -- which is what he thinks is important in a woman. So he can't bring himself to defend her. She asked for it. Whenever I find myself getting down about something the Obama administration is doing, all I have to do is picture that man occupying the White House in my head and I immediately bring myself back from the brink. Imagine...read on
What do you expect from a guy who wouldn't stand up for his wife when some crazy, old man called her a c*nt?
Since he speaks to his own wife like that, one can only imagine how he talks to his daughter.
And since both are women, that probably exasperates the matter. I wonder how he would treat a son who spoke his mind.
I wonder how he would treat a son who spoke his mind.
a man who doesn't respect his son's mother has done plenty.
john is a navy man. old school. they never thought much of women.
Some stuff you can't make up!
your military swipe notwithstanding, it stands. a man who doesn't respect his son's mother ...
John is not a Navy man. He never was. He was little more than an overly egotistical substandard pilot. He doesn't really understand the military mindset.
He was little more than an overly egotistical substandard pilot. He doesn't really understand the military mindset.
----my take as well
whose career was maintained by his father's reputation.
Nobody ever says anything about how McCrazy could be 4th from the bottom of his graduating class and STILL be admitted to the Navy flight school and the fact that George W Bush was actually a much better pilot than McCrazy must drive him crazy! I'd give a months pay to hear any reporter ask McCrazy about Bush's piloting skills! I've never seen a humans head explode before!That would be fucking funny!
..
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
He never spoke to my mother as McCain did to Cindy and he would never have thrown me under the bus. Of course, he never ran for public office either. I think this treatment of women depends on the person, not the military service. Dad is still my idea of a gentleman and he is up there in age.
BTW, I disagree (gasp!!) with John Amato. I don't think Sarah Palin, Cindy McCain, Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham are "physically perfect Barbies" at all. I think Meghan McCain may be a bit plumper, but she is prettier than all of them because she is not gaunt like the last three and is genuine, unlike all of them.
Sorry, John. There's a first time for everything. But the rest of the post is fine. Keep up the nearly perfect good work.
john himself
Some stuff you can't make up!
Just maybe her real father is Janet Reno!
like when your parents are Right Wingers. Left winger parents do things like say your an adult now, I'm not going to question your judgment. To say their 13 year old.
I'm gonna' teach you a lesson you'll never forget boy.
Left . . My 4 year old is an exceptional genius. Everything he does just amazes me!
I know it would be hard to believe but is it in the realm of possibility that Meghan specifically told her father to stay out of it and how she can handle them herself? Just an alternative view. Although John stayed quiet, I think "thrown under the bus" is a bit hyperbolic.
he didnt
great family values
I'm guessing tha McCain didn't HAVE A CLUE what the comments were... or that he even cared. After all... SHE'S A GIRL... and will NEVER have a military career so she DOESN'T MATTER.
...that McCain might not even know the two women are feuding, let alone over what. And while one would think a father would defend his daughter no matter what, McCain may have had experiences with his daughter saying things he doesn't feel comfortable defending. So without knowing what the deal was, he chose to stay generic. But since many of us here pay attention to news (such as this is "news"), we do know, and that's what makes his non-defense seem so reprehensible.
Are you suggesting that perhaps John McCain is senile?
What other explanation could there be for him "not even knowing the two women are feuding"? I'm sure his congressional interns give him Cliff Notes of the day's news, and if they are not senile themselves, they'd put a report with his daughter's name in it at the top of the pile.
There's only one explanation for "staying generic" or a "non-defense" in a situation like this, and that would be cognitive degeneration.
If only he had advised his daughter to stop her endless self-promotion............... but
he likes the McCain name being out in the public. She likes being out in the
public.
They, both, need to retire to the ranch. John for good. Meghan to figure out how
to get a real job and life. (As "real" as it can be with an endless monthly stipend
from her mom, the Mob Princess of Politics.)
McCain let Bushco get away with saying some not very nice things about his family in the 2000 Pres race
Why would he change now
What exactly is Cindy getting for her $$$$?
Really good cell phone reception?
McCane is probably used to taking it, as long as there's $$ involved.
Sad.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
disagree with with you John if you think any of those other women cited constitute any sort of physical ideal. Boyish (or in the case of Coulter, manly) figures have never appealed to me personally. Megan McCain is vastly more appealing and not because of her relative youth. She represents a serious danger to the Limbecile wing of the Republican party, now dominant, because she seems to actually be reasonable.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Not John's words. Digby's.
I edited mine below. I should have paid more attention with my other head...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Perhaps I was misconstruing agreement with Digby's statement merely by quotation.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
And, I hate to get personal about someone's looks, but Coulter looks like a hooker in a bordello in this story...
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ann_Coulters_Sw...
What kind of man can't defend his daughter??? The same kind of man who hire the same Rove hack who spread the rumor during the 2000 primaries that his "brown daughter" was an illigitimate love child. Father of the year, he is not.
i went from despising mccain for not standing up to bush in race for governorship of texas when bush tried everything he could along racial lines to disparage mccain. what did good old john do later on down the line, he put an arm around bush and embraced him. however, during the presidential campaign, i actually got to the point where mccain was tolerable, you know a likeable harmless old man.
now, as he leaves his daughter hanging, i remember why i didn't vote for this old gutless excuse maker. call him what you will, he is what he is. i would welcome megan on the other side. politics aside, john, you never abandon your family. what prize in politics is worth your daughter???? none that i know of.
95% boosh voter.
no surprise he throws his daughter under a bus, a car, a train, whatever.
he's a repuglycan. they throw any non-white+male under a bus.
maverick my ass!
Some stuff you can't make up!
Big difference between intra-family squabbles and sitting by while a relative (daughter!) is attacked.
The man had more courage standing up against the Vietcong then he does against his own party.
is intended to be a factual statement
Who, Malkin?
POW John McCain made quite a few anti-American propaghanda recordings for the North Vietnamese.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.c...
but he did tell great stories about it.
Some stuff you can't make up!
never stood up to the Viet cong but rather, he made a deal, that if they gave him medical treatment for the shoulder he fucked up, ejecting from his stricken aircraft,he would tell them ANYTHING they wanted to know and that's precisely what he did!
NO WAY are Ingraham nor Coulter perfect Barbie dolls!
Both are dogs!!
Why do you have to attack dogs like that?
is intended to be a factual statement
It was really disturbing in the campaign when Palin kept maligning pit bulls.
He's an asshole! He joked that Chelsea Clinton was ugly because Janet Reno was her dad; He kissed G.W. Bush's ass, even though Bush's campaign suggested he'd fathered his adopted Malaysian daughter with a black prostitute; Hilary was called a bitch by a member of and audience, and he just laughed. And look at the filth spewed at Pres. Obama during the McCain campaign, some of which came out of his mouth.
He's a grumpy old asshole.
Did you all forget how he treated his exwife after she had the terrible car wreck and gainede weight? He started dating Cindy and then divorced his 1st wife.
or good character, because he is severely lacking in both.
I feel sorry for his family, especially his daughters. The McCains always look ill at ease whenever they're together in public. I can't imagine what goes on behind closed doors, but I'll bet it's not pretty.
And, yes, thank gawd he lost the election!
Stop reading my mind :-)
NOBODY 2012
Digby: "Although she's quite lovely, she's not physically a perfect Barbie like her mother or Sarah Palin -- or Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham -- which is what he thinks is important in a woman."
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Personally, I like 'em thin, but that's a hell of a range for "perfect" women's bodies. And of those four, plus Megan, the only ones I'd consider doing don't write books or have radio shows.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Family members are off limits, but IOKIYAR!! Even if the family members are of other Republicans. At least the younger McCain hasn't been coerced into apologizing for being insulted by Ingraham yet.
So, remaining sensitive to the issues at hand, I have two points:
Ms. McCain is far from "fat" and I'm glad she has said that she's proud of her "curvy" body. Young women don't need to fit anyone's acceptable appearance criteria just to speak their minds.
Laura Ingraham is intellectually and ethically challenged. That's the best she can do? McCain says that the Republican party can't afford to be too narrow and authoritarian, so Ingraham says, "Oh yeah? Well, you're fat!"
I think Ingraham was trying to be funny, but it's clear she learned everything she knows about humor from Rush Limbaugh and Fox's failed conservative fake news laugh-in. Maybe some of her fellow conservative "humorists" will chip in and buy her a Hee Haw DVD set.
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Can we please get rid of the expression, "thrown under the bus"? Maybe we could hang it out to dry or put it in the circular file or stick it where the sun don't shine?
Put it out to pasture (with John McCain)!
I'd say
Some stuff you can't make up!
..whether that was a typo or you just coined a new one:
"thoughtfuck" - an idea that when induced by an external source (C&L posts for example) one responds by yelling, "GAAAAHHHH".
the letters are too close for my big hands and I am too lazy to proofread. I was hoping no one saw that. also, there was no 'c'.
Some stuff you can't make up!
And replace with what? "Take on a hunting trip with Cheney?"
Another "family values" Republican leads by example.
Look how Cheney basically threw is own gay daughter under the bus by aligning himself with the party who thinks Cheney's gay daughter is immoral, going to hell, and trying to take away her rights instead of aligning himself with the party who seeks to give her equal rights.
Despite all their lip service about "family values: the only thing a Republican values in party, power and money.
Of course if anyone said, "How can you think gay people are immoral when your own daughter is gay. Do you think your daughter is immoral?"
He would quickly rush to her defense and say, "How could you attack my daughter like that!"
I'm pretty sure that the only people who support the current incarnation of the Republican party are functionally retarded, in it for the money, or just plain mean.
then add self-hatred.
Some stuff you can't make up!
at home. I think Cindy may throw John under the bus while their daughter watches with anticipation.
LimpBalls
Rush would throw Cindy under the bus right after them to take Cindy;s Oxycontin.
Rush could just throw Cindy under himself...
the idea of being thrown under a bus doesn't seem so bad.
So long as Rush was thrown in front of the bus seconds before you, you'd be fine. The passengers in side might all go through the windshield though, but you'd be ok.
Some o' them there compassionate conservative GOP family values we hear so much about.
so this is no surprise to me!
For instance, I would expect a father of daughters to have the sensitivity NOT to make rape jokes, and that he would have his daughters in the forefront of his mind which would prevent him from doing something that despicable. But as we've seen, being the father of at least two daughters has not stopped him from being that awful before!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
When has John McCain ever showen he was a man of values or standards? He is a typical Republican POS, I'm just glad he didn't get the job to defend America!
No kidding!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Never. But he says it all the time so it must be true. OK. He probably doesn't really say it all the time. I'm sure he hates talking about how honorable he is. Just like he hates talking about being a POW.
I never heard that McCain was a POW? in which war?
**I'm being snarky of course
I'm listening to all the AIG mess and trying to process CEO Liddy's testimony and had the very same scary thought Digby had -- what IF McCain were elected President and had to deal with all of this economic nuttiness ?
I am SOOOO grateful America voted in the smarter, more level-headed candidate. God forbid McCain got over-stressed and Sara Palin had to step in.
Gah !!
"First, we need to bomb the Iranistanis. Next, tax cuts for everyone who is buying a new boat or airplane. Finally, subsidize the publishers of Bibles and abstinence-only sex ed pamphlets!"
"We're going to get all mavericky up in here!!"
Can we start referring to the governor of Alaska as Grandma Palin now?
Throw all the old ones under the bus... :)
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I like Meghan better than her father.
This is but another reason why.
but Meghan is steadily growing on me!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://www.homeloans-4u.com/blog
I'm just glad he did not become the president of the U.S
... to attack Meghan like that.
Coulter is a walking clavicle, and Ingraham looks like a scarecrow that's been left out in the rain and snow too long. Both of them are ugly -- inside and out.
I saw an interview with Meghan and was actually quite impressed. Maybe she'll see the light and leave the Grand Oil/Obstructionist Party, the snarling, bitter redoubt of racists, sexists, killers and thieves.
As far as looks -- which are so unimportant compared with a person's intellect and character -- Meghan is way "hotter" than those aforementioned screeching crones.
BID
As silly and petty as Laura Ingraham is in this situation, Meghan McCain has been amazingly thin-skinned, using her Daily Beast real estate to whine constantly about inane things. So let's not elevate as someone worthy of defending. Perhaps John McCain is annoyed about all the unnecessary attention she is bringing to herself and him and would rather not be part of the bickering.
Either way, it's hardly the stuff of outrage that some here are showing, and I'm not fan of John McCain.
"I'm proud of my daughter, even if she's a fat cow", as he slowly turns away from the mike he whispers, "the fat bitch is gonna get me in trouble.."
"Although she's quite lovely, she's not physically a perfect Barbie"
Like Springsteen said She ain't a beauty but hey you're alright.
Let's the haters of his party throw his own daughter under the bus, now that's mavericky!
Maybe Sarah Palin's available to drive the bus back over her again, something like that would take a team of mavericks!
but I couldn't make it past "Twitterview".
I'd take Meghan over Coulter any day. That "Barbie" looks like a skeleton. She's disgusting.
as another person who would "do" Meghan in a heartbeat before Coulter or Ingraham.
Btw, the "Barbie" standard is impossible to achieve. If the doll was human with those proportions, she wouldn't menstruate. In other words, she's like a pre-pubescent child.
Meghan, on the other hand, has the curves and softness of an adult woman!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Interesting:
I've avoided getting Barbies for my girls, although its impossible to shield them from her entirely. Luckily, they are raised in a multi-cultural extended family where curves and healthy body sizes are appreciated.
I'd be worried if Ken has a more realistic body type than Barbie, considering he lack a wee wee.
Maybe they should be named after the John Wayne Bobbits.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
*
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
It is definitely an eyeopener to learn how crazy and unrealistic Barbie's measurements are. The only way I can concieve for the average woman to achieve them would be a combo of not eating, excessive exercise, and waist-training with corsets. Taken all together, that'd be disasterous for any woman's health.
I'm glad that your girls have that ideal family enviroment. :) I come from an extended family full of plus-sized women, so that should help my future daughters one day!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
spent four years as a Cindy McCain size 0, I will tell you that it wreaks havoc with your health.
I've very conscious of body image messages now that I have kids entering puberty.
And also glad that you're being proactive with your girls. Bad thought patterns and behaviors show up in younger and younger girls these days, sadly.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
How dare Mr. Amato accuse a father of throwing his daughter under the bus because he (John McCain) didn't respond to a reporter the way HE would like him to. McCain said he was PROUD of how Meghan has handled herself and that is all he needs to do. He doesn't need to get himself involved in this crap. And Digby is even worse by somehow thinking John McCain wouldn't reject only Laura Ingraham's insults (and apparently not Ann Coulter's).
I don't pretend to know what someone is thinking when he/she make a statement and neither should Digby, Amato or anyone else. John McCain is staying above the fray, and good for him. His daughter can handle media criticism very well herself. Her dad realizes it, I realize it and so should everyone else. This is a nonissue - his responses to Stephanopoulos.
I agree that the headline is not exactly accurate, but John McCain should have said something to support Meghan when it comes to the nasty comments that the conservative pundits have said about her in recent days. Other than that, John McCain didn't say anything 'wrong' here. You'd just like to see him get his back up a little when it comes to the criticisms directed at his daughter.
Meghan is indeed a grown woman and can take care of herself, but yet, if I were in her position, I would really appreciate it if my father did speak up for me.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
If John Amato had written exactly what you just wrote, I wouldn't have a problem with his article. But he went overboard with his criticism of John McCain, basically accusing him of being a poor dad when he (Amato) has NO idea what kind of father he really is. So McCain's a bad dad because he didn't rip into Laura Ingraham? Are you kidding me?
I think Meghan told Ingraham off with her "kiss my fat ass" comment better than anything her father could've said. She's an adult, has proven she can handle conservative pundit criticism very well, AND her dad is "proud" of how she's carried herself. 'Nuff said.
I can call anyone in my family what I'd like--because they know that everything I say comes out of love and support, even if it stings a bit.
But don't you DARE insult any of my family members because I WILL get up in your grill and I will make sure that you don't do it again. Therefore, I can (and have) called my husband an ass on occasion. But no one else better try, because they will have to answer to me.
But that goes tenfold for my children. There is NOTHING I won't do to protect them. And if you insult them--especially in that tacky, bitchy ad hominem way, you better believe I'll come charging like the mother lioness I am. Do you have any idea how many young women suffer and damage themselves from poor body image? What is John McCain saying about the value of women in general when he won't defend those closest to him from that kind of scurrilous shit.
And for the record, you ARE pretending to know what's in McCain's misogynist withered little head, by claiming he is staying above the fray. If you think Amato is out of line (and he's my family too, so yes, I'm gunning for you now), you are more so, because you have the infinitely bad manners of projecting what you yourself are guilty of and castigating Amato on his blog on his dime.
How fucking dare YOU?
Even if mcgramps didn't feel it was necessary to defend his daughter, since she did a good job on her own, it seems he could've used the opportunity to denounce the current state of "political" discourse.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
for your own family! basic family value. if you can't defend your family, why would anyone want you in a leadership role? of any sort? and with john mccain, this seems a pattern.
Not just fathers for daughters or mothers for sons, but all as a unit against others. It should be the first line of defense.
Of course, that tends to get lost on the "family values" crowd somehow...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I wonder if Meghan wont tell her daddy to "kiss her fat ass?"
Ok, since some people don't understand why this doesn't look good to others, here's a little story from my past to shed some light on the difference between some fathers and...McCain.
When I was about eight years old, my father used to pick me up from school everyday, and it always involved me having to cross the front lawn of the school. Kids always liked to play on that lawn while waiting for their parents. Anyway, this one day, as I was walking over to my Paternal Unit, a couple of boys were tossing a football back and forth. I didn't see it coming, and it smacked me in the head so I fell down. Dad basically just sorta snapped into action, and I don't remember the words exchanged between him and the boy's mother, but basically the kid was made by Dad to apologize to me.
Consider that I feel a smack from a football is minor compared to the high school bullshit of Coulter and Ingraham, and constrast my Paternal Unit's actions to McCain's.
Dad had many shortcomings and problems, but I can say proudly that if he were Meghan's father, Coulter and especially Ingraham would have been in deep shit.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
...for her father's poor familial support, because she knows what a truly reprehensible human being he is.
All the talk about him being a war hero is just so much bullshit.
Read the 10 page story about him published (just in time) last year in "Rolling Stone" -- it's a real eyeopener.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/m...
I had failed to mention in my ancedote that my Dad was three years McCain's senior (and he and I had the same age gap as John and Meghan), and he was a Korea/Vietnam Army vet. He didn't have the legacy advantage that McCain did, but managed to make it up to Master Sargeant on his own merit, and he never wrecked any expensive tanks! ;)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Has gone from the sublime to the absurd.
That's piss poor of the cranky old guy.
Well, I have a feeling the Megan will be a Democrat soon.
When you think about it, anyone with any brains at all would dump the GOPers. Name one good idea that they've come up with in the last 3 months.
So it's back to the same old shit. attack,attack,attack. Tora,Tora,Tora. Their actually committing political suicide in front of our eyes.
Must Get More Popcorn!
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Did all you commenters run behind your collective parents' legs everytime an aggressor approached you? Honestly?
Perhaps Johm McCain (I pause here to reflect on how you liberal sheep misspell words, abuse syntax, and furthermore resolve to destroy the English language) is simply letting his daughter fight her own battles. Much as my parents did for me. I think that Meghan has decided to pick and fight her own fight, and her father allows her to do so, and will not provide any influence in order to prohibit undermining his daughter. You fat liberal women want to hide behind the daddies you didn't have, don't you?
Frankly, it's what any responsible parent would do.
Enjoy your herding, sheep!
Clearly chivalry is dead on the part of you nasty, misogynistic Conservatives (if that is what you are, instead of your common variety troll--I have my doubts).
Tell you what, Champ, why don't you give me your wife's number and I'll call her all the names that scrawny know-nothing bitch called Meghan. I'm sure she can defend herself and it won't bother you at all, will it, Champ?
Wait, what am I thinking? If you're a conservative, you're probably incapable of an adult relationship with a woman. It's just not as much fun insulting a blow-up doll.
If you manage to get his wife's number, ask for "Rosie Palms".
...and while you're at it, you might note that you failed yourself to spell "JOHN McCain" correctly.
Also, since when is "Much as my parents did for me." a complete sentence?
Schoolyard insults and truly bad grammar are the refuge of the ill-educated Republican.
Stop the funny, it hurts!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
she goes it on her own; but her dad doesn't undermine her. in that underhanded ambiguous sort of way. works for me.
I noticed you took off running like a bat outta hell.
LMAO!
You're wrong. The Wizard of Oz is looking for you again.
I suppose you were out looking for some cacacacourage.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The sad little shit's gonna need it! He underestimated the "fat liberal women" of C & L! ;)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
"I think that Meghan has decided to pick and fight her own fight, and her father allows her to do so, and will not provide any influence in order to prohibit undermining his daughter."
I would call that a run-on sentence; or, as my college English teacher would call it, a beserk sentence.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I love that phrase! I'm going to have to start using it! :D Along with my 8th grade English teacher's phrase "K-Mart questions" which he used to refer to stupid questions! ;)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
John McCain throws his daughter under the bus
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The Straight-Talk Express?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
But I laughed any way, and still am! :P
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Good one, ysb.
If I were to guess... and I'd bet money on it... McCain probably had NO IDEA what Steph-o was talking about, so rather than admit ignorance regarding his own daughter (what kind of "family values Republican" wouldn't know what's going on with his own daughter? [snark]), he played it down the middle and tried "not to take sides" because he had no idea what either side said.
Otherwise known as the "cover your own ass over sticking up for your kid" method of Conservative parenting.
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
I've always believed John McCain would do anything to avoid confrontation. This is a personality quirk that doesn't quite work in such a public life. This is not to say he won't chew somebody up and spit them out but when it comes to things that might hurt emotionally he avoids the hornet's nest. This is why I thought he was a terrible candidate for President. Confrontation comes everyday. You have to have a heart of stone sometimes and when he's emotionally attached to the issue he can't step away from his feelings. Obama can.
Jeanne
Dahlia Lithwick has a great column on this, naming Coulter the winner...
http://www.slate.com/id/2213992?nav=wp
The more we learn about McCain the more i have to Wonder how we where
ever fooled by his never ending Bullshit that he calls Strait Talk.
This Guys whole Life has been one Lie after another. Thank God we
will never see him in the White House.
The first time I saw Meghan was on Rachaels show, and I have to say,
I was favorably impressed.. she was thoughtful,intelligent,and open
minded.And bipartisan,who stated that she supported Obama as President,and hopes he will succeed.I think she became a Repub to please and support her dad.Too bad he hasn't reciprocated.
She is very pretty,well spoken, and NOT FAT!I get the feeling that inside that GOP body, there is a progressive Dem screaming to get out. Now,that would be WAY cool,LOL!
Deb,Vegas
"What kind of a man is this that he can't even defend his daughter against personal insults from the likes of Laura Ingraham?"
A man that can't win an election.
NOBODY 2012
Heck, my ex was Navy-- and a construction worker!--. and he never spoke to me like that.
McCain could not possibly be her dad. Meghan has class, and McCain couldn't even buy any.
Reslugs are born and breed to selfishly never give a shit about anybodys feelings, be it family or not. They would gladly sell their own mothers for their partisan, hate-filled agenda.
Politician first, father second.
Look at Cheney.
...Megan is probably just "Stupid C**t, Jr".
Now that is just offensive.
called his wife the same, in front of reporters and aides, only more so. It was abusive as well. I think that's the point the posters on this thread are trying to make with that word...
McDesertedHisDamagedWife is pretty rough on the women in his life.
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That claim about McCain using that c-word has never been established as fact - it's based on anonymous sources. It COULD be true but as of right now is unproven. And even if prove true, it's not to be used in this forum or any other. You wouldn't defend the right of other bloggers calling Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton that word on conservative blogs if they ever did so, would you?
If someone wants to say that, it's on them. If you want to set posting rules on a blog, you have to start your own blog.
To me That word = bitch. The intent that backs it up is the same. Are you going to run around and point out ALL the language that could be construed as offensive? And if you'll look at the thread, this was not the only incident.
It's a riff on something you choose to believe did not happen.
Fine. your concern is duly noted.
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What do you think the "flag as inappropriate" link is for, miss kitty? Call it "policing" if you want but it's there for anyone to use if they think something inappropriate was said. And in this case, calling Meghan McCain the c-word IS over the line, I "flagged" it, and you seem to be ok with it - and think it's the same thing as calling someone a bitch. Well that says a lot more about you than me, that's for sure. I believe in mature, responsible dialog. You apparently don't.
Nicole, it REALLY gets my blood boiling sometimes when I see criticism of someone go overboard. And that's what John Amato and Digby did. And I stand by that criticism of him because it is wholly inaccurate to say John McCain "threw his daughter under the bus." He's said he is "proud" of her daughter and that's fine with me.
I don't agree with McCain on a number of issues - keep in mind he is a big-time flip-flopper - but how McCain handled these Stephanopoulos questions, especially the first one referenced here was the right thing to do, IMO. You can debate whether or not he could've elaborated or not and called Igraham's criticism of Meghan distateful - and I blame George for not following up in this regard - but to say John McCain "hung her (Meghan) up to dry" and sarcastically write "What a dad" because he gave a practically neutral response and is therefore staying out of his daughter's business is just not right.
McCain lets Cindy speak for and defend herself, and the same goes for his adult daughter. (But yes, I am well aware of the troubling but anonymous-sourced claim that John once called his wife the c-word, but that's a rare and unproven opinion/criticism of a family member)
And by the way, I am NOT pretending to know what's in McCain's head at all when I say he's not getting himself involved in the Meghan McCain-Ingraham-Coulter tit-for-tat (aka "the fray"). That's called an ANALYSIS of what someone said (ex. McCain's response to George's first question regarding his daughter), not mindreading. I know you're angry, but surely you must know the difference.
In reference to George's other question, John McCain, like many politicians democrat or republican, shouldn't have to elaborate on what he agrees or disagrees with his family on politically. It's ok to ask the question, just don't expect an insightful response. It's just better for elected officials to keep political differences of family members in-house as much as possible. Don't tell me you wouldn't do the same if you were in his or any other elected public official's position.
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