There's no shortage of wingnuts out there, so why would George Stephanopoulos invite on someone too crazy for even Bill O'Reilly? Only people with a Malkin brain would believe and push across the notion that Americans would rather collect three hundred dollars a week on unemployment insurance rather than get a job that supplies benefits and pays a salary.
Yea, because there are so many jobs available, people will just wait until the insurance ends and then immediately get hired. I'm sorry, where are all these jobs again? On ABC's THIS WEEK Malkin made this bogus claim. A quick Google search uncovers that when Michelle claims Larry Katz once said that the benefits could discourage people from seeking employment, Katz actually said just the opposite during our current financial mess:
Traditionally, many economists have been leery of prolonged unemployment benefits because they can reduce the incentive to seek work. But that should not be a concern now because jobs remain so scarce, said Lawrence Katz, a labor economist at Harvard.
For every job that becomes available, about six people are looking, Dr. Katz said. “Unemployment insurance gives income to families who are really suffering and can’t find work even if they are hustling to look,” he said. With the economy still listing, he added, a temporary extension can provide a quick fiscal stimulus. And, Dr. Katz said, when people exhaust unemployment and health insurance, many end up applying for disability benefits, which become a large, unending drain on the Treasury.
It does help to fact check what conservatives say.
Malkin: If you put enough government cheese in front of people they are just going to keep eating it and you're just kicking the can down the road and just to hammer this point about the unemployment benefits extension again it was Larry Katz, who's a chief labor economist under the Clinton labor department who came out with a study and there are a lot of these economists who say this that if you keep extending these "temporary" unemployment benefits you're just going to extend joblessness even more.
Stephanopoulos: I don't know if I follow that though
Malkin: That was a Clinton economist who said it George...
Stephanopoulos: Choosing to take the unemployment benefits when a job is available?
Malkin: Seventy nine weeks already and then they're going to extend it by another thirteen weeks and what happens is according to these economist who have seen it including this Clinton economist is that people will just delay getting a job until the three weeks before the benefits run out.
Tucker: Well, that might be true when there are jobs out there that are available, but there are very few jobs available at the moment so I don't think people are using that unemployment benefit to be lazy instead of going out and searching for jobs...
Malkin: I'm not making a moral judgment, it's an incentive problem.
Tucker: But when businesses advertise the few job openings they have, they'll advertise twenty openings, they have six thousand applicants so I don't think that's the problem...
Hunt: If Starbucks were hiring, suddenly you'll see lines around the block. Anecdotally George, I have a kid who has some friends from college and many of them don't have jobs and boy, they are looking.
Stephanopoulos: And there are other states especially that are hard hit.
I know she probably worked on her government cheese talking point for a while, but it makes no sense except if we've all turned into little mouses now. With unemployment so high, where are the jobs that people are not bothering to take that bears any of this out? There's good money to be made in wingnutland, so she can attack Americans just trying to stay afloat by receiving unemployment compensation. I never realized how wonderful not having a job is.
Unemployment insurance is a lifeline for 9 million Americans, with payments averaging just more than $300 per week, varying by state and work history.
While many recipients find new jobs before exhausting their benefits, large numbers in the current recession have been unable to find work for a year or more.
Calls are rising for Congress to pass another extension this fall, possibly adding 13 more weeks of coverage in states that have especially high unemployment. As of June, the national jobless rate was 9.5 percent; it was 15.2 percent in Michigan. Even if the recession begins to ease, economists say, jobs will remain scarce for some time to come.
"If more help is not on the way, by September a huge wave of workers will start running out of their critical extended benefits, and many will have nothing left to get by on even as work keeps getting harder to find," said Maurice Emsellem, a policy director of the employment law project.
Everybody just sort of looked at Malkin, like she was INSANE, and George Stephanopoulos very politely said, "Uhm...I don't know if I follow that." To which Malkin replied: "BUT IT WAS A CLINTON ECONOMIST, BLARGLE!" Stephanopoulos was still a bit dumbfounded, wondering why anyone in their right mind would take unemployment benefits "when a job was available."
Malkin's counter argument is that, for some reason -- who knows why really, maybe there was a presidential administration that recorded epic job losses for a decade maybe, it's a real mystery -- there has been unemployment insurance for many weeks. And for some reason, they are going to keep extending it -- as if there was some sort of ongoing economic crisis or something! And because of that, "people will delay getting a job until three weeks before the benefits run out.
I guess according to this evil mutt once the Government discontinues extending unemployment benefits all of those Americans will get off their lazy asses and find jobs.
... to 'mutts'.
My best buddy - named Buddy - is a mutt, but mutts, in fact all dogs are the most noble creatures that inhabit this globe. I would not trade him for anything.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
:)
I have a mutt as well and even she would be insulted by being compared to this creature.
and if she lost all of her gigs tomorrow, her first call would be to the unemployment office, so she really should STHU.
I love cows!. They are kind and gentle.
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are getting unemployment and would like to hear this stupid fool mouth off like this?
I got laid off this year and I am currently getting unemployment.
Trust me, getting my salary cut to almost 1/4 of what I was making is no fun.
Thankfully I got a severance and my wife works and makes a good living, otherwise, we'd be seriously screwed. Even so, we have to make big time cutbacks.
If this bitch thinks that people in general are sitting around collecting a check just to not work, FU!
I spend almost all day every day scouring the boards for IT jobs, sending out resumes and tweaking me resume.
She thinks people want to try and live on 400 dollars a week in CA?
Sure.
Our goddamned traditional mortgage with taxes added in comes to 2500 bucks a month for our very modest house. Yea, I'd much rather get tossed out of my house than work.
Idiot.
Shut her damn mouth up, she's an embarrassment to all Asian-Americans. Everytime she opens that damn anus on her face she calls a mouth, it makes me look bad.
attacking people's looks, but "anus on her face" is pretty funny. It's a visual I would hope to soon forget.
To all the verbal shit she spews, it's almost as if it is not a mouth on her face, but a second anus.
You assumed anus referred to her looks. I like that because it's so properly insulting to Malkin, and as a bonus, coming from someone who totally didn't mean it that way. That's honesty, and therefore, an inarguable condemnation of her looks! :P
(Malkin has applied WAY TOO much artifice to the lips. C'mon.)
to work on her eyebrows.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
... understand Malkin
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
they invite people on that don't have a clue but will always push a republican rightwing neocon facsist corporate agenda.
Apparently there's a lot of money to be made telling ignorant assholes what they want to hear.
How do you get a job as a pundit? A rightwing one, you probably have to take some kind of GOP loyalty oath, spewing forth only their talking points.
But what about a Democratic pundit? Or a Joe the non-plumber pundit?
I know a whole lot more about what goes on in middle class and poor families as I have been both at different times in my life. These talking heads haven't a clue as to what is going on in the real world. I certainly can use the money as I've been unemployed for nearly TWO F'N years now.
Who the hell does Malkin think she is talking for the rest of us? Even if we were not in a Depression, she still doesn't have a clue.
It makes me sick that people actually listen to people like her and believe what she says. That goes for all right wingers and some Dems, too.
WTF was george thinking when he had her on his show? She looked more like an idiot than usual because she wasn't in her right wing support group. That kind of BS doesn't fly well if you are in a group of somewhat sane people.
I think she was projecting what she would do if she were on unemployment. She would just sit (now to quote LeftandLeft)on her "lazy ass" and stay there as long as the unemplyment checks rolled in.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He was thinking he better start pimping more right wing propaganda if he wants to keep his job.
If that's the case, he sure jumped in the deep end of the pool. Maybe Cokie was sick today and Michelle was her substitute. I bet Michelle thinks Obama shouldn't have visited his grandmother in such an "exotic" place, just as Cokie did.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Cokie was probably on a vacation at Myrtle beach or something. You know she would never go to anyplace foreign like Hawaii.
Even if Hawaii was where her dying grandmother lived and she knew it would be one of her last chances to see her.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
their website is all "ooh ick how could you?" Probably a huge traffic boost for them.
C'mon people. It MSM, ABC/Disney/CapCities. There is no real difference between Michelle Malkin and the regular panelists on that show, except Cokie and the Georges and Sam are old school, and have the manners that Mrs Malkin was never taught.
This is not at all surprising. I would not be shocked if this is an attempt to legitimise the screaming meemies and all that fringey crap. Mrs Greenspan, over in GE's empire has been giving the birther nutbags all sorts of attention, exposing their nutted up crap to more nutted up nutbags.
Look for guest appearances on future roundtable discussions by the very people we see here all the time...How about big daddy billo subbing on MTP? or Michael Savage throwing down on This Week. any of them. Hammity, Drugbo, all in the same league as mrs M, and no doubt coming to an MSM station near you.
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is SO friggin' angry, she's got the Bachmann crazy eyes, and so defensive. Like a child.
I want to see her birth certificate, she's brown!
Not only do I want to see her birth certificate, I want to know if she's legally allowed to be in this country spouting off such bullshyt.
George Stephanopoulis should've said to her, "Michelle, I know the Aquinos and you ain't no Corazon Aquino".
Jeez, George, if you're going to have on a certified crazy like Michelle Malkin, don't be surprised by the insane bullshit she spews forth. Goddamn! Michelle Malkin? Why not have Drudge on while you're at it? After all, they have about the same level of credibility.
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
that someone who does what she does for a living ought to be the last ignorant twit in the world talking about other people's work ethic.
Was Beck and BillO busy today and all they could find was her? I mean who will he have next week? I bet Gregory is so jealous.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
"mouses"?
the incorrect usage is on purpose to underscore the intellectual bankruptcy of Malkin's framing and rhetoric.
Truly bizarre that she would be allowed on this show given her demonstrated inability to elevate any discourse (which only undermines the credibility of Steph's show). Still, it was interesting to see that outside of Stephanopoulos, only Cynthia Tucker could make eye contact with Malkin. I suspect the guests were embarrassed to have to be in a forum with such an intellectual lightweight.
They kept her name out of it when they invited her on. You know, kind of forgot to mention Michele would be on. Otherwise their panel you have been Malkin and George.
There's nothing remotely "intellectual" about a self-hating ethnic swine like Michelle Malkin.
It's called projection. If Michelle was poor or had not married a rich man, that's what she would do--look for handouts wherever she could find them. She thinks it's only natural.
A right wing dittohead once explained to me why she didn't give any money to the man begging on the street corner.
She said, "Don't give him anything! He has more money than you do. Probably lives in a mansion. I know from experience."
"One time I forgot my wallet and didn't have money for the parking meter. I'd seen people begging for bus money so I told a passerby that I needed money for the bus. He gave me a five dollar bill. I thought I'd ask another person just to see what would happen. By the end of an hour, I had over fifty dollars. Then someone I knew drove by and waved at me. I started to feel embarrassed so I quit."
"No wonder people beg. It's people like you who encourage it."
She got me thinking. I wonder how many street beggars are Republicans.
I was just gonna say ... following Michele Malkin's logic, one must assume then, that all homeless people are republicans.
.. I can see those freeloaders whooping it up on filet mignon with hors d'oeuvres. caviar and lobster washed down with a vbottle of 1787 Chateau d'Yquem.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
Why doesn't she try living off unemployment for a month and prove to us how much money you have left after paying your monthly bills and buying groceries. Show us, Michelle. And while you're at it, pray to hell that you don't get sick.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
They act like its some big amount one cant live on it one can only exist.
Unfortunally sick, crazy, morally bankrupt, dishonest, fringe, hatefull, bigoted, racist and dumb people like Malkin are needed to expose conservatives, specially at a time when they are trying to reach mainstream Americans pretending they have legitimate grass root movements like the tea baggers ans so on. The most dangerous conservatives are not the ones with a big mouth spilling their garbage on TV, the worst ones are scheming quietly in the night.
Hopefully, there are Republicans somewhere on the line between blindly following right wing propaganda spewers and doing some thinking of their own.
Perhaps some of these more intelligent Republicans have lost their jobs and are beginning to see through the insanely hyped up scapegoating done by people like Malkin, Coulter, Beck and Limbaugh--beginning to see that they are being manipulated for the sake of the rich and powerful who fund the think tanks that scheme quietly into the night, searching for ways to get the poor to vote for the Party of the Rich.
even more. she's too stoopid for fuxNoise, but not too ignant for ABC. If you go to their news blog, you'll see why.
Some stuff you can't make up!
She has to believe that if you say anything, anytime, anyway, as long as it's extremely right wing crazy, then there's money in it. I say give her a national platform and it will be the best way to show that the wingnuts are crazier than anyone would have thought!
Are the two Michelles (Bachmann) ever on stage together? Now that would be a show to see!
ljmel
With this cute little [Deleted-Sitemonitor] airhead spewing her nonsense, one need not be blonde to be a bimbo. This gal will say anything, no matter how outrageous, including her defense of the World War II internment camps.
Wall St. goes into the shitter: Government runs in with trillions to bail their greedy asses out. Buisness returns to tried and failed.
Working stiff loses employment: Government tosses them scraps. Workers are not at fault for losing their jobs.
Contrast and compare!
I watched the show today. Won't happen again. ABC News just lost all credibility with me.
George seems to be racing Gregory to the bottom.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
michelle's?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Why didn't I see that coming from you? I'm begging you, no videos links to anything like that, please. :)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
HA!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzsWuqNlLK4
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IETwQDcd6BU
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Just like they keep getting crazier and crazier over at FOX to keep up with Beck.
You know, the one where Keith and Bill were ordered to play nice?
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
I read that article in the paper this morning and about gagged. I hope Keith tells them to piss up a rope if they start telling him what he can and can't talk about on his show. If he walks they are gonna lose a bunch of viewers.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Glenn Greenwald exposes the REAL reason for the truce.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/02-4
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
Wow. Just. Wow. Trust no one......
ever since the story broke?
non disclosed involvement with a PR firm that does 'crisis management' and gussies up pigs with lipstick.
So here he is, a mouthpiece for big business, pretending to be independent. Associated with having a left leaning, or liberal bias, but working [secretly] for The Man.
Really. MSNBC is no lefty haven. Nor is it a liberal or progressive one.
It's just like the rest of them.
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Ironically, the same party has no problems defending giant severance packages for Wall Street executives. (So.. wouldn't that make them more likely to, um I dunno.. get fired?!)
But hey, however false it is, I think we should all thank Malkin and hope others pick up on this line of attack. Because I can hardly think of a faster way to commit political suicide than to start attacking unemployment benefits at a point in time when we're facing record unemployment!
As Napoleon said: Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake
I forgot where I read it, maybe it was here at crooks and liars, that Michelle has a new book out and it's something about grading President Obama and what a disaster he has been these first six months.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
See the Bill Maher clip posted earlier on C&L. Funny.
Why do the "news" networks continue to give these crazy right-wing cvnts (find a better descriptor) airtime, knowing what they spew is unadulterated bullshit?
Malkin is a self-loathing, gold digging, anchor baby.
I demand she show us her anchor certificate.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
if malkin wasnt a semifamous [in the gop world] she would never be welcome at a gop event in the south.
she is in serious denial.
William,
Are you serious?
This is a propaganda media. They put her on because they are told to. She accomplishes many goals for them. For example:
1. She diverts the attention away from pressing issues.
2. She pits us against each other so that we do not burn down the offices of Skank America and Goldman Sucks.
3. She takes up valuable air time so we don't have to listen to honest, dilligent reporting.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
Even right winger Geraldo Riverara admitted this woman was pure 'scum'.
When your fellow scum calls you scum, you know you're in trouble.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Geraldo Rivera comes to his senses when Republicans use the immigration issue as an excuse to racially bash Latinos- which is why he loudly denounced Lou Dobbs and Michelle Malkin- both being blatent latino bashers.
Geraldohas slammed Republicans if they come after Latinos- but the rest of the time Geraldo is a Republican stooge..
why the whitewater/swiftboat/birther movements gather steam - you f*^king idiots give them air time!
WHEN IS THIS ADMINISTRATION GONNA REALIZE THAT IT IS AGAINST FCC RULES TO INSTILL HATE ON PUBLICLY OWNED AIRWAVES?
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Howd'ya know what he was wearing?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
unqualified to host any thing, much less a talking-points-only outlet.
I would love for him to just once respond to those nutjobs he brings on by saying "that's insane" since most of it is.
... this dip shit was going to be on... I changed the channel. WTF does Stephanopoulos put far out right wing screw balls like this.
And it's not about hearing both sides of the issues. This really just flames the division this country is already in. This is not informational news... and this guy was a Democrat. Money makes a blind man see turn a Democrat into a pig feeding at the trough.
"It's hard to get a man to understand something,when his paycheck depends upon him NOT understanding it." H.L. Mencken
On the Sunday Morning round up that Nicole posts in the morning she had this person mentioned and I seriously thought she was kidding.
Yes Ignorance is bliss and they further their cause through MORONS that have FECAL matter for BRAINS, Ooops, sorry the wing nuts DO NOT believe in brains or CRITICAL THINKING. Stupidity rules with this BIMBO.
Get a list. Start a boycott.
YEE-HAH!
Now them's fightin'words!!!
Let's put our money where their mouth ISN'T.
That they would have her on - she is such a lightweight not to mention a liar and thug. This week had a chance to keep the "quality" (i.e. Krugman and ilk) up to balance out the dipshit twins of Cokie/Will - who are they not because of a meritocracy - but seniority and inertia (Communists!) they blew a chance to diffentiate themselves from MTP after they started guesting the NBC/MSNBC lightweight crew such as the Scar...
If she wasn't going around spewing shit for money, what kind of job would she be able to get?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
shoveling shit in a dog kennel.
insurance phone line, scolding 'insured' and denying their claims
...and maybe then goes home and moralizes to her pet stuffed 'chucky' doll.
You know, I can see it. 79 weeks of unemployment? Not too bad, if you're just starting on unemployment. Especially if the only job you can get is pushing a broom, or flipping burgers. There's a lot of people who want to get jobs similar to what they were doing prior to layoff, and unemployment insurance is put there exactly for that reason, but at some point, a person has to be willing to take any job. I doubt people are willing to look for burger flipping jobs while the UI is rolling in, particularly if they weren't living paycheck to paycheck while employed. My state right now is at 59 weeks, with an additional 26 weeks if one enrolls in job training.
Politically speaking, extensions have negative ramifications, because people who drop off UI tend to not interact with the employment office, and hence aren't counted as "unemployed", making the stats look better than they are. If we cut everyone back to 26 weeks, I think we would see a dramatic improvement in the quoted unemployment rate, even though the exact same number of people would remain unemployed. There is the positive ramification in that the constituency receiving the extension are appreciative.
Back in 2005, when I was unemployed, and had only 26 weeks, I knew I had to get going to have a chance at reemployment prior to the UI running out, particularly due to age reasons. No one wants to hire an older person. But, if I was looking at 56 weeks, or 79 weeks, I hate to say it, but I would probably "chill" for several weeks.
Statistical Deceptions
By Paul Craig Roberts
July 29, 2009 "ICH' -- .
For example, the recent decline that was reported in seasonally- adjusted new unemployment claims was a result of the normal adjustments for the retooling of auto lines that did not, in fact, take place to the normal extent due to the bankruptcies and uncertainties. Adding in seasonal adjustments that did not in fact take place artificially reduced the unemployment claims.
Williams warns that after a period of contraction, new monthly or quarterly figures are being compared to prior periods of collapsing activity. “Improvements” are thus artifacts of the prior collapse and not signs of economic rebound.
The “Birth-Death Model” is used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics to estimate the net of the non-reported jobs lost by failed businesses
(deaths) and new jobs created by start-up companies (births). Williams explains why the model understates job loss during periods of contraction. The modeling on which the birth-death adjustment is based consists primarily of periods of economic growth when there are more non-reported start-up jobs than non-reported job losses from business failures. The BLS model came up with a monthly adjustment of
75,000 new jobs added to the reported number. That means an adjustment factor of 900,000 new jobs added to the reported payroll jobs number each year.
However, during economic contraction, such as the current one, it is wrong to assume that new start-ups are creating 75,000 jobs each month more than are being lost to business failures. Thus the job losses are understated by the 900,000 upside birth-death adjustment and by the absence of a downside adjustment to estimate the jobs lost as a result of failed companies that cease to report.
The reported unemployment rate is itself deceptive as it no longer includes discouraged workers who have been unemployed for more than a year. These long-term discouraged workers are simply erased from the rolls of the unemployed. p>
The Consumer Price Index no longer measures a constant standard of living and is not comparable to pre-Clinton periods. During the
1990s, the CPI ceased to be based on a weighted fixed assortment. The principle of substitution was introduced. For example, under the old measure, if the price of steak rose, the CPI rose. Under the new measure, if the price of steak rises, the index switches to hamburger on the assumption that consumers substitute hamburger for steak.
Consumer confidence typically is swayed by “good news” hype. The drops in the Conference Board’s and the University of Michigan’s measures of consumer confidence in July suggest that Americans are becoming inured to recovery hype and are realizing that the government and the media lie about the economy just as they lie about everything else.
So, if we cut unemployment benefits to say, 3 weeks, then the unemployment statistics would indicate that the problem was "solved".
I have not dealt with the UI in my new state, since I have remained employed, but in my former state, they were very helpful in finding new work, and I fully recommend interacting with the employment office whether you are collecting or not, particularly if you are an older worker. You help yourself, and you help your state qualify for extensions.
very, very Red State - Idaho, and I personally know of numerous loggers that look forward for the long periods of unemployment that are common in their trade. Idaho is also a sportsman paradise with hunting, fishing, four wheeling, boating etc. opportunities around every corner - and believe me, this is what they do on their off-times. They would probably be happy if there was only the time off without the pay but who are they to turn it down?
Many years ago when I was on unemployment for several weeks, you had to show up at the unemployment office once a week with a list of the places you had applied for work and they checked out that list. If it didn't check out and you hadn't applied anywhere that week, no check. Thank goodness I found a job right away. Going to that office was no fun and being offered a giant chunk of govt. cheese was almost funny. No one could eat that much cheese.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
They were drumming up business for gastrointestinal specialists and proctologists.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
and if anyone would know that for a fact, it would be me. I have never seen a doc labeled a proctologist, and there is no dept of proctology in the hospitals where I get treatment. It's an archaic term now.
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My former UI I think wanted to see 3 or 4 jobs applied for in a week. I could apply for the jobs online, and file for UI online. Very simple now, and no need to travel to the office. People would go to the office anyway, for resume preparation and so forth. My old state's UI will have a certified resume writer write your resume, whether you are collecting or not.
I'm sure they know the deal now - no one is hiring. If they were, UI would find you a job to get you off the rolls.
UI knows employers that are hiring, but they are not going to just ship any old body to the hiring company, because if they do so, they will destroy their relationship with that employer. If you go down to the office, and come across as a good match, and seem reliable, they may be able to get you a job. I was at the office often.
Its about time that one of these millionaires finally vocalized the truth! The people who are NOT millionaires are that way because we're lazy and stupid! People who SHOULD be watching Fox and Friends are ACTUALLY watching dopey shows that demand as much of a lack of thought as possible. Jon Stewart comes to mind...someone so smart, he can do our thinking FOR us.
Good thing too...because if we all did a lot of thinking...well...thats communism....
and thats why Obama wants us to think...dirty red....
The thing I find funny is that is that with the economy beginning to recover (at the Wall Street level), propagandists like grimalkin will claim the economy was never that bad, credit boosh, and blame Obama for the deficit they said wasn't important when they were giving tax cuts to the wealthy during two wars.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Elementary my dear Watson. If the economy gets worse, blame Obama. If it gets better it's just a cyclical correction which has nothing to do with Obama.
$300 per week @ 40 hour week is $7.50 per hour. Until recently that was more than the minimum wage.
Stephanopolous should have said that's what her opinions are worth. About $7.50 an hour. And that's being generous.
if you don't mind sleeping in a cardboard box under some freeway overpass.
Under the stimulus package is a program to subsidize Cobra insurance premiums. My cobra would probably be $600/month, so my out-of-pocket would be $200/month. That would still leave $1000/month. If you have a family, then, you are screwed, but a single person can make it on $1000/month for a while.
I think family coverage would be about $1200/month, or about $400/month out of pocket.
I think the Cobra subsidy is good for 9 months. I think the program expires later this year, but I think if you are participating at that time, that you will get the full 9 months.
a week for everybody receiving benefits. Your amount is based on the wages you earned in the preceding 5 quarters prior to filing a claim.
It may vary slightly from state to state, but I assure, the person who was making $300 a week isn't receiving anywhere close to that.
Mine equals about 20% of what I was making when fully employed.
Besides that - she is so fucking wrong about what opportunities are out there.
Finding bridge employment is just about impossible - you know, the job that will carry you from the last career position you had to the next one.
Nobody will hire career professionals in those positions because they know they are just going to leave when something better comes along. And then we can talk about trying to be hired as an overqualified applicant.
"My experience should mean so much to them" Bullshit. Your career experience only lets them know the same thing - you will not be happy with significantly less money and when the better job comes along, you are going to bolt.
I can't blame an employer for that type of thought. But I can blame Malkin for being a stupid fucking idiot.
too true. is there anyone (ie, any serious adult) who is not aware of this??? and if so, why would their opinion be valued or solicited?
btw--hoping things turn around for you and everyone ... soon. this is just so pervasively shytty
btw2--my question would not be on extending pymts, but how much longer do we crush people w/this unemplymt/underemplymt, non-benefitted serfdom; denigration? while banksters and insurance co's and politicians get their unmerited handouts and remedy nothing....
If companies are squeezing by or turning profits at the present rate of labor need, when will they ever have an incentive to change their hiring policies?
This may be the pessimistic side of me, but if you could make money at the same rate or better with a workforce slimmed by 10-20%, why would you throw money away on more employees?
I see this going very long term if the above ideals are now being cemented into corporate minds.
compelling and grim assessment.
when i try to be hopeful/pragmatic, ques: what can change to make this not to companies' advantage? right now, i can think of nothing within reason that doesn't counter your view of a 'long term' backward slide for all but the power brokers. and as people forget what it's like to have skills that command standing with 'employer' - it'll be harder, more institutionalized, particularly in an internationalized economy.
(nothing you haven't already expressed/experienced)
Unions...and our unwavering support of them. Love them or not, they were the reason the working stiff finally got a relatively fair shake at the table.
Did they overstep in some facets? Yes. Did they come close to the thievery carried out by the executive management of American companies? Not even close.
It's simple math really.
Is it better for the economy to have 10 million dollar earners or 100 $100,000 workers?
The latter is the answer as they will invest more money into everyday spending over every time period measured than the 10 millionaires.
that is the operative word. and your point on trickle down vs. spread around, well taken.
If this "compassionate conservative" bitch were hitting on hard times she'd be the first one with her fucking hand out. These insensitive right wing harpies make me sick. When Halliburton was getting hand outs to the the tune of billions in no bid government welfare contacts where was this bitch? We didn't hear a peep from the wingnuts and tea baggers when our country was going belly up giving away to the super rich, big banks, the corporations, big oil and the war profiteers for most of the past decade only when the middle class needs help do they squeal like pigs. Oh, and that bitch looks foreign I want to see her birth certificate!
even get on mainstream TV? Who's letting her out of her cage?! I now have seen her on both CSPAN and ABC. WTF?! Get back to FOX where you belong, Michelle! From the looks of it, no one took her seriously anyway. She's like Hannity, they never let the facts get in the way of their hate for the poor and middle class of America.
LimpBalls
'hate filled libs.'
So I guess all the screwing up of the face, the yelling the interupting, the fear of having left leaning posters post on her site, thats all about the conservative love.
Just so we're clear.
me-oww!
In Malkin's world every unemployed American is a George Costanza.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T35QhLx_KI
recently who I KNOW was loafing around on unemployment, and making no effort to find work, was my ex roommates boyfriend, who would come over and spend the night... and then spend the entire next day on the couch laying down, watching tv, being cooked for by her (while she scammed Worker's comp) and drinking Coors Light after Coors Light...
He'd finally sail off after I got home from work at 5 pm, and do it all over again the day after that.
Guess which political party he belonged to.
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me-oww!
What a stupid, evil, ignorant dumbass. Jeez, I cannot stand this person.
And why is she allowed on shows like this? She hasn't the intellect, for one thing; and she's downright psycho for another.
I love it, at the beginning of her spiel, how she mentions her book.
She said she's not making a moral judgment. That's all she does. She was out of her league on that panel. You had three journalist and a partisan hack. She weaseled her way on there to peddle her book. She was a Music major in college before she switched to English at Olberlin where she was hated there too.
is intended to be a factual statement
In my area, I think I could get a minimum wage job within a couple of weeks. And to be truthful, I wouldn't try until a couple of weeks before my unemployment ran out, because unemployment ($320/week) pays about the same as a minimum wage job. And, if I'm working a minimum wage job, that takes time away from looking for an above minimum wage job. And I don't believe FICA is withheld from UI, so I might net more.
So, although I don't like Malkin, there's *something* there. I see a job now I could get, if unemployed - working at a collection agency. Collections is a growth industry, for some reason. ;-)
As usual, Michelle can't put herself in the other person's shoes. She doesn't realize she should be thankful she has the income she does, even if it comes from spewing hateful nonsense. If Michelle was willing to get out of her bubble, maybe she should talk to someone who used to be a true believer in her right-wing fantasies and has now learned up close and personal just how screwed up our economy is. The other thing is that the real unemployment rate (counting underemployed and discouraged workers) is much higher than the "official" rate, which counts only people receiving benefits and those actively looking for work.
This appears to be all of a piece with her previous efforts, including spying on a family endorsing S-CHIP, publishing the personal information of people with whom she disagrees in order to incite attacks, writing books accusing Obama and his administration of corruption (while ignoring Bush & Cheney's real track record of corruption,) defending internment, and making accusations without ever doing the legwork or investigation to back them up. The fact that the Michelle Malkins of the world appear in television and print media without effective critics in the press or print speaks volumes about just how screwed up our press happens to be.
but never felt a reason to defend 'cows', until now!
I'm not going to insult: pigs, maggots, snakes, or even slime.
Michelle Malkin is her OWN species of 'filth'and George has taken his program 'off' my scheduel as just more 'nazi-vision'.
Why was Malkin even on this show? Does George really believe she is a credible commentator? Makes no sense.
YOU HEAR THAT ALL YOU UNEMPLOYED CONSERVATIVE LAZY ASSES? Malkin says you'd rather stay home on welfare than work.
:)
It was so nice of them to let Michelle Malkin sit at the grown-up table. Kids say the darndest things.
What makes Michelle Malkin qualified to talk about ANYTHING?
Fucking corporate media. Pathetic.
Reminds me of looking at Charles Manson. You just know that they will do nothing good for the world.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
I would call her MM if they were not the initials of the sainted Marilyn so .....Mimal went to the famous liberal collage Oberlin and has carried her resentments from that time with her since. Yes, of course she thinks that people go on unemployment so they can hang out and work on their art projects rather than work. And yes, she feels that everyone on unemployment is a registered Democrat and therefore either lazy or privileged or both. And of course, you can live on $300 a week since you have the values and needs of a pig and are probably a squatter or living in your parents basement anyway. And only liberals watch George and this is a way to call them out.
The sound of crickets whenever she spoke and the way every one at the table clicked off their eyes so they wouldn't have to look at her was amazing.
BTW: Does anyone think she looks like a blow up doll?
When people invite Michelle Malkin onto their programs, they know ahead of time that this hate filled, angry individual who thinks she is better than everyone is going to go on the attack.
Why do folks act like they are surprised at her rhetoric?
These bozos that let her out of her cage and on a teevee set are asking for everything they get. When you let a wild pig out of it's cage, you expect the same thing.
WHY is Momo getting air time at all??? She belongs in a straight jacket.
....seeking inclusiveness for douchebags.
Where malkin is she thinks if she has a job on sunday doing nothing and getting paid for it, then you can to!
You are just to fucking lazy to do the things she has to get her job.
You see it is all very simple. All you have to do is desire a job and you've got it.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Thank you Sweetheart, you can go home now and hate yourself.
NOBODY 2012
I wouldn't piss on her to put it out. And that's not like me, at all. It's just that she's SO ignorant, intolerant, and unempathetic, I just really would let the bitch burn.
God forgive me...
if there were a god, how could you be condemned for not intervening in someone's demise if you didn't cause it yourself?
If she was truly part of the long term vision in some god's master plan, that being would save her by their own intervention, right?
She has the mannerism I would expect from a sociopath. I know she is on TV, but if someone was in your house speaking about a neutral topic with the same intonation, etc and body language, wouldn't you be freaked out?
She looked and sounded pretty stupid spitting out cliche words and phrases (optics) trying to sound all econ wise and such in a media way. And the others at the table pretty much were polite in ridiculing her for what she was saying.
I wonder if George S and his producers had her on just to let her shame herself?
It's the ONLY positive I can come away with . . . man she's batshit stupid. And still hawking a book that's a failure . . . . just like Ann Coulter . . . .
A few months ago, O'Reilly had this woman on his show who used to have a very well paying job at some bank or brokerage house....something like that. She lost her job and has had trouble finding work in the same line of business.
So, she became a stripper at Rick's Cabaret in NYC. She's making good money, but she doesn't want to keep working there...wants to go back to her old job.
At least she's working and not collecting unemployment! Maybe Malkin wants the unemployed to become strippers or prostitutes or drug dealers!
just like our congress critters?
I would never accuse Michelle Malkin of having a heart, or feeling any compassion for anyone. What Malkin would have us do when we lose job that barely pays for lifes basics, is to get a job that doesn't. Which BTW is the goal of corporate American, and Wall Street.
Malkin with her "Government cheese" comment shows her lack of compassion for both the working poor, and the middle class who are struggling not to join the working poor. A kid fresh out of high school who gets a job with a lawn care company works ten times harder then Malkin. Because all the Malkin does for a living is pouting her lips, bugging out her eyes, and vocalizing hate speech.
Has he grown a brain?? Shocked!! never thought Carlson would ever say something rational!
Late,
QSE32
Atlanta Journal-Constitution's political columnist
(not carlson...so your perceptions, perhaps, still hold)
has she ever been unemployed? unemployment money is barely enough to pay the rent, let alone bills, food, everything else you need. you would need to be making a boatload of money to be able to "freeload" at all off unemployment insurance. another completely clueless wingnut
did this woman get on anything except Faux'ed Noise? That's what I don't get. What does she know about anything.
The obviously invited her on to shoot down her baseless talking points.
Would someone give this B**ch a job busing tables or washing dishes so we don't have to hear from her again.
Barbara Ehrenreich in all this? Shouldn't these shows benefit from her insight?
Her books on just getting by (or not) are superb.
If you put enough government cheese in front of people they are just going to keep eating it and you're just kicking the can down the road and just to hammer this point about the unemployment benefits extension again...
She should be in prison for the mixed metaphors alone.
How stupid of her to say that unemployment payment make people lazy. I guess she is not aware that this country is in a depression/resession and companies are laying off large numbers of people. Must people would rather have the security and benefit offered by havig a steady job. This bimbo wrote a book?
This sycophantic, opportunist hack never fails to impress. Keep at it Malkin, be a "good little republican."
Seriously though. This bitch has no brains whatsoever. She bites at what ever crap talking point her owners give her, and goes out to repeatedly embarrass herself over and over again, and laughs it all the way to the bank.
I'm sorry Malkin, what exactly to you contribute to the economy besides a lot of dumb f*cking hot air?
Please, step away from the bipartisan red herrings.
Please, grasp that the internet is the newest progressive invention that enables our entire species to become more knowledgeable and to communicate more readily. We now have the unique opportunity to use our exponentially developing technologies to access and organize factual information, and to work together to make macro-level decisions to benefit our entire planet.
Please, recognize that we're "all bozos on this bus"! We cannot exit this planet at the next galaxy, so we must inevitably learn to live together, or continue to sacrifice our young people in unwarranted "wars" that benefit only the wealthiest among us.
Finally, please, please, please, recognize that promoting fear, hate and divisiveness of any kind will never result in anything positive. Reject your fear. Let go your hate.
“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else?" (Matthew 5:43-47) [Do not mistake my use of this quote as an adjuration to embrace some specific organized religion--just listen to the words, which are timeless and universal.]
Gandhi, King, Dalai Lama--these great pacifists and others like them give excellent examples of effective responses to 'hatemongering' and fear. One doesn't need to wear rose-colored glasses to recognize that love is the most effective palliative in these trying times. Love can also help those who aspire to effective pacifism to accept that those who hate or fear are the only ones who can find their personal path to peaceful membership in our Global Family.
Personally, I pray for patience and acceptance, because people like Malkin really push my hate buttons.
I am a retail manager and unfortunately I have overheard my employees talking about quitting to collect on unemployment benefits more than a few times. I have had two employees in the past five months do just that. While I don't know how much they are receiving, I do know that they have kept in contact with other employees and have expressed their delight in their transition to employment-free living, leading them to consider the same income strategy. I also understand for most people, this wouldn't make sense. It makes no sense to me. However, just based on the fact of what I have experienced as a manager, the sentiment Mrs. Malkin explaines absolutely exists.
but a couple of your employees = everyone receiving UEI?
And while your little story may be true, quitters do not qualify for UEI, unless their boss is an asshole (abusive, law breaking, eavesdropping etc.), and they can prove it.
I'd offer up your post as proof of that.
Another couple of things. Why don't you snitch off your employees for conspiracy?
And retail? There's a high paying job. They'd be in line for about 80% of what you are paying, averaged out over the last 5 quarters. I highly doubt these alleged employees have been working full time in retail for the last 15 months.
You people are just clueless. Because one gun owner goes insane and shoots up the town, are we supposed to apply that standard to all gun owners?
Some drivers drive under the influence. By your logic, and Mrs Malkin's as well, ALL drivers are DUI. I could go on, but I think the simplistic nature of my examples should make them understandable to even you!
me-oww!
I live in Ms,one of the worst States in the US on so many levels....teen pregnancy,not being able to read,not finishing school...the list goes on. In this State there is a large population who would rather sit on their butts and do nothing(and this was LONG BEFORE unemployment rates were down to what they are now). There are high school drop outs popping out babies to get food stamps,Medicaid,WIC and ANY other Government assistance that they can get their hands on. And the problem with this is that now that the economy is so bad the people who REALLY need the help can't get it because the 20 year old illiterate high school drop out who neglects/abuses her 3 kids(oh and there is usually one on the way)that lives down the street is sucking on the system like the leech she is.I say Medicaid,Foodstamps,WIC and any other Government hand out should: 1)cap how many children you can have to qualify that way women aren't popping out children expecting more money for each child they have(no more than 2 children out of wedlock allowing each of those two children to have a different father-the exception a divorced woman) 2)if DHS finds that tips of neglect/abuse on the children are true you loose the assistance(and possibly the children) 3)Has to have finished High School/GED and has worked in the past(for more than 3 month)unless there is a good reason they have not worked yet 4)If you have money to buy smokes and alcohol you should automatically be written off for food stamps because if you have money for alcohol and for smokes then you have money to waste that could be put towards you grocery bill therefore you do not get foodstamps.
In MS the leeches are bad!
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