Newt Gingrich . "We are living in a period where we are surrounded by paganism."
By John Amato Sunday Jun 07, 2009 4:00pm(h/t Bruce Wilson of TalkToAction)
Newt Gingrich is really playing up being a Catholic now and is warning Christians that "pagans" have us all surrounded and Satan is going to eat your baby unless you get involved in politics.
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee urged Christians to get involved in politics to preserve the presence of religion in American life.
"I think this is one of the most critical moments in American history," Gingrich said. "We are living in a period where we are surrounded by paganism."
They and other speakers warned about the continuing availability of abortion, the spread of gay rights, and attempts to remove religion from American public life and school history books.
Gingrich and Huckabee, a former governor of Arkansas, argued the rights of Americans stem from God and to ignore that connection is perilous. The two were among several speakers, including former U.S. Senate candidate Oliver North, at the three-hour "Rediscovering God in America" event. The event was closed to reporters but was broadcast live on God.TV, an evangelical Web site.
Running for the 2012 nomination is really getting to this man's cranium because I do not see "virgins" being abducted while the pagan---Devil worshippers are using them along with blood sacrifices anywhere, have you?
By the third century CE, its meaning evolved to include all non-Christians. Eventually, it became an evil term that implied the possibility of Satan worship. The latter two meanings are still in widespread use today.
I do know that dressing up as a "witch" is still very popular for Halloween, so maybe that's the big pagans' plan to indoctrinate our young people into the occult.
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Harry Potter is going to get you and turn you into a devil worshiping wizard!
Oh and First!
...last semester on Harry Potter. We got to read lots of scholars who claimed that very thing: that Rowling is "out to get" your children and turn them pagan! Great class, grad-level.
In another one, KidLit, we had to read Twilight. Blecchh! Arrgh! Paganism! Luckily, I was able to clear out the bad taste in my mind with the likes of Terry Pratchett.
Wait a minute, someone in a college environment taught Twilight as literature? Even KidLit it's not. I seriously hope it was held up as an example of how not to write a novel!
(or as much as we could stand!) Literature it is not. But it's enormously popular. We had to look at it. And in Popular Culture circles, there are lots of scholars ripping it to shreds; we certainly did in class.
said she never saw a vampire movie, or read a book about vampires in her life (as she is a mormon) the entire concept came to her in a dream
ya...and so did harry potter to jk rowling (and she is definitely a plagerist)
its fucking the vampire lestadt without sex and written for the tweener crowd
it isnt lit and neither is potter for that matter
although potter has improved my niece and nephews reading skills....but i told my sis that twilight must be banned from their home
oh, and get this
the author has just finished her first scifi novel
which amazingly sounds exactly like a mix between invasion of the body snatchers and the puppet masters
she is a fraud
I mean, I'd believe that she never saw a vampire movie or read a vampire book. Otherwise she couldn't possibly have come up with such incredibly lame BS and labeled it "vampire."
Gah, Twilight is so weak and pitiful! And too teenybopperish for me for sure. I enjoy reading about modern day psi vampires and sanguinarians, and I am also planning to read Anne Rice's Vittorio the Vampire soon.
I guess the countless Halloweens I dressed as Vampira as a little girl I was indocrinating people into feeding off of others life force or to drink their blood! *sigh*
"The Historian" is MY idea of good vampire book. Couldn't get into Anne Rice. I laughed all the way through "Interview With a Vampire" with Cruise. My kids made me leave the room. NOW they know why I laughed though.
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I couldn't get into Anne Rice either, but I loved the "Interview" movie. Not because it was good, but because it was such fun. Like the movie equivalent of a velvet Elvis painting.
Pratchett rocks!
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"She turned me into a newt."
"A newt?"
"I got better."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8DIg3oHFI
I've always loved this.
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In the interest of bi-partisnaship I have stopped sacrificing virgins, but has anyone on the right noticed??? Typical.
Where did you find virgins? We've been scouring the bible belt for a few to sacrifice and the best we could find was a few pregnant teenagers claiming immaculate conception.
Bada boomp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IF3sMzQiiE
Do Virgins Taste Better/Dragon's Retort
Lyrics by Randy Farran, music Traditional
Performed by Brobdingnagian Bards on A Faire To Remember
A dragon has come to our village today.
We've asked him to leave, but he won't go away.
Now he's talked with our king and they've worked out a deal.
No homes will he burn and no crops will he steal.
Now there is but one catch, we dislike it a bunch,
Twice a year he invites him a virgin to lunch.
Well, we've no other choice, so the deal we'll respect,
But we can't help but wonder and pause to reflect.
Do virgins taste better than those who're not?
Are they salty or sweet or more juicy or what?
Do you savor them slowly? Gulp them down on the spot?
Do virgins taste better than those who're not?
Now we'd like to be shed and many have tried,
But no one can get through your thick scaly hide.
We hope that someday, some brave knight will come by,
'Cause we can't wait around 'til you're too fat to fly.
Now you have such good taste in your women for sure.
They always are pretty, they always are pure.
But your notion of dining, it makes us all flinch,
For your favorite entree is a barbecued wench.
Now we've found a solution, It works out so neat.
If you insist on nothing but virgins to eat,
No more will our numbers grow ever so small.
We'll simply make sure there's no virgins at all!
And the retort:
The Dragon's Retort
Lyrics by Claire Stephens McMurray, music traditional, arranged by Gunn-McKee
Performed by The Brobdingnagian Bards on A Faire To Remember
Now, I am a dragon. Please listen to me.
For I'm misunderstood to a dreadful degree.
This ecology needs me, and I know me place,
But I'm fighting extinction with all of me race.
Well, I came to this village to better me health.
Which is ever so poor despite all me wealth.
But I get no assistance and no sympathy.
Just impertinent questioning shouted at me.
Yes, virgins taste better than those who're not.
But my favorite snack mixed with peril is fraught
For my teeth will decay and my trim go to pot
Yes, virgins taste better than those who're not.
You see I'm really quite kind almost all through the year.
Vegetarian ways are now mine out of fear.
But a birthday needs sweet so I'm sure you'll agree.
And barbecued wench tastes like candy to me.
As it happens our interests are almost the same.
You see I'm really quite skillful at magic and game.
If I ate just your men, would your excess decline?
Of course not, the rest would just make better time.
Now, the number of babies a woman can bare,
Has limits, and that's why my pruning's done there.
And an orphan's a sad sight, and so when I munch,
I'm careful to eat only virgins for lunch.
You're looking in the wrong place for virgins. According to statistics.
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They didn't notice because half are tap dancing in the men's room and the other half are over at the Page's residence. Practicing being "good christians"
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"Jeez, do we just take anyone these days?" I mean, I realize the Catholic Church has fallen on hard times, but this is really galling. This 4 flushing, phony, lying, cheating, wife-dissing jackass can now be seen at a Catholic Church near me acting all pious and holy. This could be the last of a whole lot of straws for me. Are the Unitarians still around?
Bill Donohue and Mel Gibson are living proof that the Catholic church will take anyone.
Pope Pius xii
the "Rat".
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Well, I'm a Unitarian (Universalist) and a Pagan. I don't know who you are, but you are welcome!
They don't take kindly to fat old assholes talking smack about them.
Newt voluntarily "converted" to a religion with many leaders who are pedophiles and the rest of the leaders cover up for them. Furthermore, the Catholic church is FULL of rites and beliefs drawn from ancient pagan religions whose roots are ignored and instead those rites and beliefs have been polished and "sanctified" throughout the centuries.
I don't want to hear one WORD from him criticizing anything else that goes on in the world. It's like someone joining the KKK and then self-righteously declaring that the rest of the world is "racialist", his newest contribution to the discussion about Ms. Sotomayer.
Old lizzard face is an expert on everything evil.
After all he was the one that served devorce papers on his wife while she was in the hospital!
Don't you love to be told how evil you are by the grand wizzard of lunacy?
republicanism is a mental illness and old newty boy is one sick fucker.
...the source of all of our troubles is always the Other.
Ooga booga!
pagan, well then slap my behind and call me a pagan! No shame there!
I have had it up to my eyeballs with the religious wrong. I was an Evangelical. I tried following Christ in the way they taught. I tried to be a submissive, "biblically feminine" woman, one that had given up feminism, my true sexual orientation, my natural willingness to be open to other ways of learning.
I had to get out of Evangelicism to save my mental health. Doing so has given me peace of mind.
I celebrate your emancipation.
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We like to visit a specific atheist forum. Plenty of former "fundies" there. A lot of them dropped religion after reading the bible cover to cover.
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"DAN BARKER is co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation. A former minister and evangelist, Dan became a freethinker in 1983. His books, Just Pretend: A Freethought Book for Children and Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher To Atheist are published by the Foundation.
His newest book, Godless: How An Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists, was published by Ulysses Press in 2008. A graduate of Azusa Pacific University with a degree in Religion, Dan now puts his knowledge of Christianity to effective freethought use."
From: an [All inclusive] point of view...
→ → → → "All religions can't be right. All religions can be wrong!"**
** The only exception... is what you BELIEVE, that counts.
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We ar living in a period where we are surrounded by a media that won't ask Newt Gingrich why he thinks America should be attacked...
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where we are surrounded by paganism
Well if he didn't attend all those Back Masses, he wouldn't have that problem. Sad truth is that actual pagans are steadily losing ground to the major world religions.
They have destroied christianity!
Cesar's heart was in the right place
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Q U E S T I O N:
What should it be called when a politician uses a congregation and church to stump for a political purpose...?
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Answer: TAX TIME!
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Is this the same " Family Morals " guy who told his second wife that he wanted a divorce while she was in the hospital with cancer so he could marry his girl friend? The church must be hard up for members to take the likes of him.
All he had to do was donate a few $$ and he's off the hook for past transgressions.
Of course. That's it.
Isn't that what paying for forgiveness is called? It should be a deadly sin, like avarice, lust, wrath, pride, envy, sloth, and gluttony. Neut G. has committed each of these in public, except for maybe sloth. If he did that last one, I missed it. He has also committed adultery, one mortal sin among others he has surely indulged in, but I need go no further. He is doomed to be a joke, and I wish his Viagara would stop working. And may his wife cheat on him daily, and his herpes break out every time sunlight hits his skin, and may his cattle...never mind.
the Geneva Conventions and alter boys.
Both my brothers declined an invitation to be Altar Boys in our church. I'm SO grateful.
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So I take issue with Newt's ignorance. But there is a big time misrepresntation of pagans. We don't drink blood. We don't sacrifice virgins. We do believe in a higher power and our collective of religions is totally devoted to peace and the worhsip of mother earth.
unless you beleive in war, destruction and the murder of innocent people. Plus you have to be a big phoney.
Don't leave out the murder of the mentally ill!
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I'm a Catholic by birth only. They can have Newt. This is who represents the Catholics? A vile man named Donohue who says things that even Evangelicals would find offensive. A man who left his wife while she was dying. And a bunch of pedophiles. Why would anyone play up to these people? You really gotta wonder why some one would convert to be a Catholic. Maybe Newt sees the perks, little boys. If he's anything like Rush that must be the answer.
would accept an adulterous liar and cheat into their fold? Birds of a feather? Just guessing.
is enrolled in the class : "How to be more stupid today than you were yesterday"..........he seems to be passing the class with flying colors!!!
a pagan ritual just about every weekend. We make burnt offerings and consume prodigious quantities of ritual libations. I'm particularly fond of the grilled chicken breasts.
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So the Easter Bunny isn't a pagan symbol that has been spoon feed American children?
So Santa Clause isn't a pagan symbol either?
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...they'll figure it out!
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Oh, that's right. I forgot. They're real...
... The Easter Bunny magically appears in your home and poops out chocolate eggs and the man up North uses his magic to slide down every one's chimney, with or without a fireplace or furnace box.
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tricks, except NORAD has reported numerous times tracking Santa while neither NORAD nor NASA has seen any evidence of Jesus. There is far more evidence for the existence of Santa.
Bullshit, we are living in a time when cancervatives are being propagandized more than ever on Corporate Media. This is just a weak, pasty, old McLame wannabe playing politics. This is the last time I comment on a Bozo Gingrich thread hopefully, this is getting as ridiculous as Malkin, Loofa boy, and Coulter.
to gringrich: blame christian hypocrisy, you hypocrite
...this man is not delusional enough to think that he will actually be the nominee in 2012..........is he that far gone???
His toughest competition is going to be from Sarah Palin. He's got as good a chance as anybody else. Romney recorded a solid 148 delegates (out of 2800) and was easily beaten by both "uncommitted" and "not voting".
Who's going to beat Gingrich for the nomination once Palin shoots herself in the foot with some comment about "rounding up all the darkies" or something? Huckleberry? McGrampa again? Bobby "Who needs volcano research?" Jindal?
It's kind of like the Detroit Lions - it doesn't take a whole lot to make the team.
He doesn't have a prayer. He has so much baggage he'd fill a cargo hold all by himself.
He's really just STUPID. He's trying to recapture the "glory" days when he was a powerful member of the Party. Now he's just another old, rich, pasty white christian guy though.
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Yes -- he is.
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So Newty is all pious and thinks that if he can out Gad everybody he may have a chance. Does he really think that changing wives like he changes his diapers that they are going to think he is cool. And when they find out how little he cares about poor people that is a few more he will lose and then with the diminished base he think he has a chance? I sure hope they are paying him for this crap.Or has he ripped off those fuckers for so long that he doesn't have to worry about real work anymore?
And the atheists are forgotten once again. Typical.
disgusting attacks?
description, unless one wants to refer to themselves as non-superstitious or rational.
If I could find my flute, I'd get up on my hind legs and play a tune for all of ya.
The hoofs do scratch the floor though.
You're supposed to wear booties in the house!
That's ok Newty. I have just lived through an era of rapacious greed and corporate fascism, thanks to conservative imbeciles like you!
In case you forgot Newty, agnostics brought us the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, to go along with the greatest freedoms the world had ever seen - until you repukes took over that is; hitting us over the head with your bibles and waving the flag in our face! Destroying everything that was good in this country, so that a tiny group of spoiled, aristocratic psychopaths wouldn't have to pay taxes - after they STOLE all of our tax dollars of course, and then warn us about "socialism" if we want to use some of those tax dollars to give everyone health care.
And while we are getting all holier than thou Newty, what kind of an asshole serves divorce papers to their wife when she is in the hospital being treated for cancer?
Your ilk have been exposed through your toxic deeds. And no matter how much shit you spew forth, that Geney is never going back into the bottle. You can full some of the people some of the time, but you can only fool the dumbest wingnut all of the time.
God I would love to be on these shows and put morons like this prissy little prick in their place when they start shoveling the GOP bullshit.
WE ARE LIVING IN A PERIOD WHERE WE ARE SURROUNDED BY CHRISTIANS.
OMG. maybe we should all freak out now, as if either side was actually new.
Didn't you hear the pagans clapping in the background? They run in packs and he's a leader.
I mean, why go to a pagan meeting if you can't be surrounded by other pagans.
Why would anyone look to politics for religious leadership?
They're more organized. Religion has the money and the attention of the flock. They vote in droves. That's where the organization comes in. Tell the fanatics that they CANNOT vote for a certain person (Obama) and they wont. Religion plays to the weak minded and desperate. We have a lot of that in this country.
Toss them a few bones regarding abortion, etc., and the fools do anything the hard core bastards want them to do. Like "tea bagging." Don't you think smarter republicans got a laugh out of that too? I usually get angry about all this, but tonight they just strike me funny.
Oh yeah, what this country needs is more religion. It's not enough that more Americans believe in the devil than in evolution. We need more superstition...and more guns...lots of guns...guns and bibles...that'll help.
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/...
Lore and superstition go hand in hand with fear.
folks to start running the Dept. of Agriculture and bring in the Biblical rule that every 7th year the fields will be fallow.
I've already started doing my own part by honoring that good old time religion. I'm now stoning the Applebee's waitresses to death on Sunday mornings after church when they're doing that doe-eyed "I'd like a tip" for violating the Sabbath and serving you look.
Newt has such a hard on for the presidency that he has fooled anyone that goes to St James, Saint Gregory's or St Matthew's church. He did this so called convert for one thing, votes. You win the Catholic vote you're half way to the White House. He's as much as a Catholic as I am. It's either that or he has a thing for little boys in white robes.
Catholics need to wake the fuck up and see this man for who he is. He's another Bill Donohue preaching bullshit, hate and looking for attention. IF there is a Catholic God that I was forced to learn about he's in a boat load of trouble...He's either gonna get smited or struck down and spend eternity in purgatory. I would not wanna be Newt if this Catholic shit is true.
declined since the child molestation scandal? Are they also down to only the right wing fanatics there? As the pendulum swings to the left, all that continue to stand on the extreme right are sinners, mental defectives, and greedy con artists. As it should be.
you and your mateys are the assholes worshiping filthy lucre, and clogging up the vomitorium with with the fruits of your gluttony. And you even had Nero fiddling while Rome burned...
Getting ready for some Christian martyrdom to prove your point?
Newt and the rest of his ilk are only feeling persecuted because they're not allowed to tell the rest of us how to live and what to believe.
I lost a friend of 20 years to these nutjobs and their demand for ideological purity. Has anybody had any luck deprogramming a wingnut?
Very good question!
Give them free shit. Bring them to a party with free alcohol. They'll convert. Nothing taste better than a free beer.
Well a religious nut anyway. I used to be part of that whole, anti-abortion, sex only in marriage, Christian nation bullshit.
I got myself deprogrammed when I started listening to what this older girl I was trying to get with had to say, back when I was a teenager. She had some slightly feminist and progressive ideas.
So I guess in some sense the sex drive is a required element to deprogram a wingnut. Oh and I also picked up a history book and actually read the thing, and looked at what other religions had to say.
Ever since, I didn't exactly walk out on God, but I did walk out on Christianity and organized missionary religions altogether. If anything I'd say the missionary religions have the most douchebag lunatics in their congregations.
I think Twilight was aimed at teenyboppers but like twitter a bunch of low IQ adults pushed it's numbers up
It was also written by a Mormon.
I think JK Rowling of the Harry Potter books is a Presbyterian.
it's too bad that sacrifice is still not practiced in christian
religions, because it would be very helpful and fulfilling for
gingrich and huckabee's religion if they would take the
initiative and practice the self-imposed version.
god would be very pleased.
Newt, there's not one word in the constituion in favor of christianity. I guess your side promotes "strict constructionism" only when it suits you.
You’d think after 8 years of lies the religionists would wise up. After all this time it’s getting awful hard to pity the fools.
Does Newt do that whipping thing with the chain, too?
Doesn't he know that the Rethugs' 20th Century--or is it 14th Century?--tactics aren't workin' anymore?
Ollie North was there for "Rediscovering God"? Does the Christian Right not ever check into the backgrounds of any of its champions?
Newt Gingrich, Ollie North - where was Sarah Palin and James Dobson?
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For that matter, where was the world's most famous Christian Adolf Hitler? Why didn't they at least erect a statue in his memory?
Why not erect a statue of Bill Clinton?
I'd like to see birds perching on his erection.
over a sink so the birds would have somewhere to bathe?
Time to buy a nice time-share in the catacombs, Newt!
When the Newts talks pagans I think he means libruls, democrats, progressives, blacks, mexicans, feminists, homos, lesbians, transgender, pro choicers and all the other anti-americans who voted for Obama. The ones who rile up the Lord so the prophylactic shield is removed from the US to allow terrorism and a dismal economy and high fuel prices and hurricanes. I don't think Newt is referring to human and animal sacrifices or smearing blood on stuff and killing animals for their blood to appease deitys or numerology and sacrifices or observing celestial occurences and sacrifices to god, i.e. the stuff of regular biblical christian values..."All the fat is the Lords." Leviticus 3:16
No Newt, we are surrounded by f---heads and idiots like you who won't go away and quit harassing the country with your pigheaded hate mongering and propaganda. You had your chance, you were forced to resign in disgrace. You think you're going to be president next but you are badly mistaken. Your ship has sailed.
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"Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee urged Christians to get involved in politics to preserve the presence of religion in American life."
More like "preserve the presence" of the GOP in American life.
Shamelessly scaring up votes in predictably exploitative and cynical Gingrich fashion.
""A religious protest at E3 against EA's upcoming title Dante's Inferno, which was picked up by local news as well as the LA Times, turned out to be a sham."
→ → →[ http://slashdot.org/submission/1015331/Dantes... ]
Dante's Inferno trailer
→ → →[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOZRRU_Dyg ](1:55)
Amended: Imaginations can be powerful...
We've always been surrounded by Paganism. It was so bad when I was in Holy Trinity Grade School the nuns even had a Pagan Babies program where we could adopt a Pagan Baby in a far off land. At least that's what the nuns and priests said the money was being used for.
Psst. Hey, Newt. Christianity/Catholicism/etc are all derived from prior pagan beliefs.
if there is some higher power (call it what you will) would that higher power please step up to the plate (soon!) & remind all of these wingnuts, attention-seekers, holier-than-thou a**holes to shut up & stop speaking for same.
Apparently until that happens, these nasty little hypocritical people will continue to push their own greedy agendas, with absolutely no shame.
It's shocking how many so-called christians allow this hate to be spewed in their religion's name. This sort of thing has nothing to do with what Christianity was supposed to embrace.
Either there is no god or he/she/it approves of the message that's being sent with his/her/its signature attached.
"God" simply clicked New Game on Sim Universe running on his cosmic computer, and forgot about our particular game file.
think that you may have hit upon the answer Bricked!!
We won't even talk about 'our particular game file' being 'corrupted'. ;)
to leave their beds. Belief in God is a tool they use to get what they want from people who cannot reason.
It is quite accurate to term the Middle Eastern superstition and Jewish sect known as Christianity a pagan religion, and the vast majority of Americans claim to adhere to that delusional belief system.
The roots of Christianity are set deep in its pagan origins along with Mitharism and other solar-god sons-of-gods fastasies, and have long been nourished by the blood of its tens of millions of victims.
Yes, Newt, you ugly fat toad hypocrite who secretly cheated on your own wife while persecuting Bill Clinton in public for doing the same thing, the United States is saturated with pagan Christians--all mentally ill, all hypocritical like you, and, like you, mostly hate-filled and dangerous.
But take heart, you ugly toad, we ARE doing something about it: Christianity is slowly dying out--even here in the United States where most believers are cursed by their "god" with embarrassingly low IQs, poor educational levels, perverted notions about human sexuality, and mental illness. Take heart, Newt: we will rid the world of paganism and all other delusional belief systems.
Certainly Christianity was a pagan religion in the original meaning - it referred to the various less sophisticated beliefs of the rural people of the Roman Empire, since pagan just means hick or country bumpkin. Then the Christians took power (or power took the Christians) under Constantine, and Christians were now the insiders, and no longer pagans.
But Newt is right. Paganism, by his definition, is definitely on the rise, and definitely is a threat to his corporate masters, since it is generally, in our day, about earth-based worship, and therefore assumes some environmentalism. It is also is generally associated with at least some open-mindedness, since few people in this culture are born into it. Political paganism -- folks along the line of Starhawk -- are probably the single biggest threat ideologically to what Newt believes in - unbridled corporate power. (I predict he will be Catholic only until he ditches this wife, which is due in about 5 years.)
when old Newtie throws his size 22 hat into the ring. He was lusting in his heart AND committing adultery all the while leading the charge against Billy. They're all pigs.
Is that bad?
No more christmas trees for you! No more poinsettias - no more easter eggs.
And the whole Resurrection myth? - that's gotta go too - that comes from Egyptian mythology regarding Osiris. And a few others . . . .
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The whole Gospel seems to be structured like Dionysian dramaturgy:
Agon
Pathos
Threnos
Anagnoresis
Apotheosis.
Even the the seven sacraments came from Mithraism, along with the Dies Natalis Solis Invectus.
The eucharist is essentially a continuation of the omphalos, and the hagiography of catholocism is essentially Paganism lite.
Paganus is a latin term that means rural, rustic or of the country.
There is much speculation on when the word was subverted to take on some alterior meaning, however many scholars are recognizing the origin of the word paganus and not the catholicized misinterpretation of the word.
Gingrich and the small circle of wingnuts that toss around the word pagan have no idea of the true meaning of the word........dumbasses.
Rural country folk tend to be religiously conservative, that's certainly true in America with the ol' time religion.
Once you destroy the educated of another religion, it continues for some time underground by the rural folk until you stamp them out as well.
Catholics aren't the monolithic voting block they used to be. They didn't vote for one of their own, Kerry (stupidly). Kerry spoke like a Catholic. This surrounded by pagan stuff sounds more like that fundie evangelical holy roller talk that mainstream Catholics find unintelligible and ignorant. We wonder how he got around his two previous marriages to be married in the Church. Anyone can convert if they go through the classes and seem sincere to a priest but getting TWO marriages annulled takes a lot of money and probably a miracle.
Not so much money, but one has to give, in writing, explicit details about one's marital sex life. It is required in the packet of paperwork you must complete in order to apply for an annulment. I have a vision of priests sitting around a table in the rectory (an ironic choice of name) masturbating while reading these applications. If it wasn't for plagiarism and outright stealing ideas, the Catholic Church wouldn't have anything. Think about "holy" communion and cannibalism. How ghoulish is that?
Well if you're too broke to go to the mall the church is always there to explain why.
Pagans did it!
Opiate of the masses indeed.
the ACLU, "a hateful, anti-religious system" is designed to Drive Gawd out of America! Guess they can't do it in a Hummer anymore, or a Pontiac.
If you're a religionialist, don;t you believe that GAwd is omniscient, omnipotent, and maybe even omnivorous(?).....??!! How in hell could the little old lawyers of the ACLU drive the almighty out of America?
Where they gonna drive her to -- Iran?
Newtie is so full of crap his head is really starting to swell up faster than ever.
We ARE surrounded by Paganism! Check out that CBC video above about the internet from 1993. Right around the 01:39 mark, there is a listing for "ALT.PAGAN". Really....we've been surrounded by pagans ever since the start of the internets!
Gingrich....what a dumbass.
I wonder if it's paganism if you're married and you start screwing around with another woman?
What most in the media are afraid to mention because it is considered politically incorrect is that Gingrich is also morbidly obese. He is VERY VERY sinful in the eyes of the Lord and openly worships food and immerses himself in gluttony and the lustful ecstasy of high fat foods. How can anyone take such a self-righteous fraud seriously. For just once, someone needs to confront Gingrich on these issues directly to his face in an interview.
Call to all Pagans. This is the time to rise up and do what we Pagans dO. Whatever it is us Pagans do, that is.
Newt is supposed to be a grown man. Why does he talk like a child? A nutty crazy child in need of psychiatric assistance.
Ridicule the Wiccae?
when I hear Gingrich warn that we're surrounded by pagans, I can't stop picturing Newt cowering from aging hippies engaging in drum circles. I know that doesn't even begin to describe all of the adherents to various neo-pagan religions, but the image strikes me as funny because I think it's the opposite of whatever Newt is imagining. Modern pagans are hardly the barbarian hordes poised to crash the gates of Rome. His statement sounds so ridiculous it's hard to be annoyed by the obvious religious intolerance contained within. What's next? Is he going to warn the country about the Buddhist threat toward our freedom?
"...because the ACLU is a hateful, anti-religious system, designed to drive god out of America."
Fact: the ACLU has defended the rights of professed christians in at least 45 cases since 2000 alone.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/2652...
It's enough to make me stop giving them money if they weren't so damned consistent in their principles.
What's wrong with Pagans? I LIKE pagans.
Is Paganism against the law in the US? Didn't think so. Until then . . . get a LIFE Gingrich.
I can't believe it -- these re-Thugs are like the living dead -- they're all Zombies - they won't die, they won't give up - and they're eating each other's brains.
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then the repukes need to toss "family values" right out of the door
God.tv?
Flip the "d" over twice, and you get Gop! Subliminal?
Pagan Rome used to castrate rapists, and other Pagan countries executed them. In Christendom, as per the Bible, they either married the woman to the rapists if she was single or execute her if she wasn't.
Sometimes it was just paying off the father for damaging his property.
.....Sometimes it was just paying off the father for damaging his property.....
I guess that's why my father always told my dates when they came to the house to pick me up, "I want you to bring it back the way you took it out".
He's saying we're surrounded by an outlaw motorcycle club? Call in Hell's Angels and everything should be fine. It's a very republican plan. Get others to fight some made up battle.
Motorcyclists I partied with were all Asutra.
Well since he left out skeptics, agnostics, atheist, and non-believers, that leaves me and my enlightened bretheren off the hook. I would feel really guilty if I knew my personal non-beliefs or skepticism of dogma would bring down all of christianity.
I mean how could I live with such guilt.....you know what I mean?
Well lets see a religion based on Lies, Intolerance Indifference Ignorance and HATRED (unless you believe what they believe), and I am suppose to be comfortable with this. A book of fairy Tales that embraces Murder, lies, Incest, HATRED and this is suppose to be good.
A religion that has a god that NOT even its own believers can believe in some say god others say jesus (the latter used for all justifications of hatred), but the non believers are the cause of this.
Pedophilla, spouse abuse hatred for anything different love the fetus Hate the CHILD, real good christian values. NO THANKS
Italy is the most Catholic country in the world and Newt needs to pay a visit to the Cathedral in Lanciano, Abruzzo Italy where he will see very prominently displayed a solid gold Pagan Astrological Horoscope wheel and two, marble fish (Pisces) as the spigots on the Baptisimal Font. That's right, folks. There was plenty of Astrology in the Pagan bible but much of it was edited out.
Why this idiot is given a public forum is beyond sanity. He is a hypocrite of the highest level, a delusion religionist of despicable morals, a failed human on every level of ethics/morals/intelligence. Better a rope than a mic.
It is amazing how little intelligence right wing religious fucknuts have. 6,000 year old Earth, magic buddy in the sky, non-believers should be killed, torture is okay (waterboard Newt - please), Halloween is evil, etc. etc. Wow, what a bunch of 2-year-olds who believe in the inerrancy of a book written by men who believed the sun revolves around the Earth, the heart was the center of intelligence, magic was real, one god was better than the others and wanted non-believers murdered (Jews v Middianites). What a load of crap.
We keep posting these things, who are we trying to reach? If you can't look at this and know these folks are bloody mental, you are part of it. Start looking them in the eyes and telling them what you think. Start telling them no, to their face. When we stop being cowards then we'll see it change. If you don't, then stop whining. Understand however, you have to be willing to take the consequences...
It is merely pre 9/11 thinking.
When one assumes?
"Life without Faith is fantastic"
PS. Thank you for your contribution, effort and intent. ♥
Edited:
He's NO good Catholic since he broke the seventh commandment of adultery THREE times and didn't give a shit. His Catholic faith ROTS on his lips.
Doesn't it make things all better, once you've attended a confessional?
Amended: "A lie is a lie no matter how many people believe it. Truth is the truth even if no one believes it."
They aren't worried about "religion" they're worried about their religion. What a crock of sh!t. I think they're just trying to find a new buzzword since socialism doesn't seem to scare people enough anymore and most of the terrorists seem to be right wingers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCCR2huE2m8&fe...
Upon reflection, that just about covers it all!
Was that "clip" retrieved after one of your gymnastic routines?
Paganism? I wish. We're surrounded by "asshole-ism" ...in the form of the GOP.
...start using the Nazi salute in their churches?
since he's soooo catholic, i'm sure he is still married to his first wife and they've only had sex the same number of times as they have children..
When the disease suggests the prognosis...
When you simply obey, Eye for an eye. The cure is inevitable!
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason"
Thus
"Blind faith turns you blind"
And
"Religion: The blind leading the blind"
Resultant
"Religion - root of most wars."
It's only evolution. √
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