Shameless conservatives resurrect the Schiavo debacle to attack Obama's DOJ nominee
By John Amato Thursday Jan 08, 2009 9:01am
Conservatives are now brushing off the Schiavo case to use it against Thomas Perrelli, President-elect Obama’s pick for the no. 3 spot at the Justice Department. Right-wing websites are outraged at Obama’s association with Perrelli, since he was one of the lawyers who represented Michael Schiavo, who wanted his wife’s feeding tube removed. The Washington Times today reports that these conservatives are now gearing up to fight Perrelli’s nomination:
Andrea Lafferty, executive director of the Traditional Values Coalition, derided Mr. Perrelli’s selection as “just another death-peddler Obama has added to his list of nominees.” She said he’s earned the nickname among pro-lifers of “Piranha Perrelli” for his work on the case.
Tom McClusky, vice president for government affairs at the Family Research Council, said several end-of-life issues could make their way to the federal level in the next four years and having Mr. Perrelli at the department means pro-life causes would have a tougher time winning those debates.
“If the Justice Department isn’t going to do anything about it, the states, what’s to stop them from cases like Schiavo and even worse cases,” Mr. McClusky said...read on
If I remember correctly, the Terri Schiavo story was one of the first times the conservative movement was really exposed for the extremely insane positions they hold dear to the American people and they were as horrified as I was. Tom Delay and his crew were so drunk with power that they even threatened the Republican judges involved in making the right decision. (Above video from the C&L vault in 2005)
Delay: Mrs. Schiavo’s death is a moral poverty and a legal tragedy. This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change. The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today. Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Schindlers and with Terri Schiavo’s friends in this time of deep sorrow.
John McCain even got into the act. And they even played the Terry Randle card. America was horrified. And so the conservative movement began to crumble because the media couldn't waffle their way through it. Bill Frist's political career never survived his video tape diagnosis.
"I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office," he said in a lengthy speech in which he quoted medical texts and standards. "She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli."
His comments raised eyebrows in medical and political circles alike. It is not every day that a high-profile physician relies on family videotapes to challenge the diagnosis of doctors who examined a severely brain-damaged patient in person.
When you have Sean Hannity camped out in front of Terry's hospice, well, it was truly a disturbing time indeed. I had to stop searching my data base because it was nauseating. Let them bring this case up if they want. I have all the video we'll ever need to expose this once more. I wish they would let Terry rest in peace?
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Even for the Wingnuts this makes no sense. Americans were overwhelmingly against the Right Wing on this one. I mean I love that the Wingnuts are stupid, but this is dumb even for them.
But I say, let them show the world their stupidity and hypocrisy.
opponents are making asses of themselves, don't interrupt them. And yeah, why isn't this turd making license plates?
Nothing to dumb for these money driven morons.
Shouldn't Delay be in the slammer by now. Justice delayed is justice denied.
"Even for the Wingnuts this makes no sense. Americans were overwhelmingly against the Right Wing on this one."
I'd say this is primarily an attempt to gin up outrage in their base. It's what political parties do after losing an election. Expect this to appear in fundraising letters.
Looks like stretching exercises for Obama's Supreme's picks.
They need the exercise too...they've not had to use much muscle since 2000...everythings been handed to them.
...found that her brain was literally just mush with absolutely no possibility for recovery, not one apology. These people are little kids with way too much power.
I hope they bring it up every day, and when they don't the Dem's should. If the Dem's had done something like this we weould have heard about ever since.
They forgot that that was the beginning of the end for them. Polls taken at the time showed OVERWHELMINGLY that people didn't want legislators butting into family matters, and they think that somehow in 3 years that's changed? Anyone wondering why Republixcans and conservatives are now out of power, here's exhibit #1,337. One more example of their cluelessness.
If it weren't for the MSM's willingness to uncritically peddle any stupid idea the RNC or the right-wing floats, it'd be funny.
Well, they are proving something we all knew, they have no shame and no respect for the dead. Don't they realize this makes them look like they are willing to use this woman's memory just to get their way?
These sorts, on the right, are just screaming and gnashing their teeth as a result of the last election. They look like insane angry people.
'Our thoughts and prayers are with the Schindlers'
Surely 'swindlers'?
That whole schiavo affair stunk to high heaven.
Michael Schiavo is garbage.
is that they know they are brain dead and do not want their feeding tube removed.
is the diaper rash they get from their poopy adult diapers.
Tom DeLay Pulled the Plug on His Own Father
I knew about DeLay and his family "pulling the plug" on his Dad, but I didn't really know about the circumstances. What a complete and total HYPOCRITE this man is!!
I seriously do not know why CNN or any other news outlet feels the need to give him air time on any subject. He is NOBODY. Too bad there's no way to Pull the Plug on him, once and for all. Scum.
Green pond scum!
The Reslug bedwetting league didn't give a crap about Shiavo. Intelligent people saw through this. They just wanted to stir up their base of intolerant, ignorant haters that make up the fake Religious Right.
Republicans will wish they left that case alone as Republicans and the President stopped everything even GW's vacation to sign an order. Dr. Quack Frist only looked at pictures to decided his opinion never seeing Terry herself. It was a Govenment take over of a personal family matter. Republicans finally got a chance to play GOD. As Americans decided the President, Dr. Quack and all the Republicans were wrong along came the Katrina Storm. These same Christian Values Religious Leaders watched Americans die on TV as they begged for help. The President while in California waited 5 days saying he never knew yet every news station covered the storm. Republicans enjoyed themselves while watching people running for their lives and kids/babies without food or water. News reporters were on the scene, World Leaders had already sent help while the US Govenment, Law Makers and President watched and did nothing. Dick Cheney was away on vacation watching. 5 days when hundreds maybe thousands had died Bush came to the Gulf and Cheney rushed back to get the money from the recovery plan. Bush gave a speech and left, Cheney got the money for his company and left as the only help the people got was from the American people. Why would Republicans fight to save the dead but refuse to help the living?
Because if you noticed most of the people left were minorities. Republicans don't do miniorities. You see how fast he help Gov Barber of Louisana. He was a republican. N.O. was demoncratic. I was happy that people finally woke up to see what this party was doing. It was a window into the destruction of the Bush years in office.
they're more brain dead than Mrs. Shiavo ever was.....
felony convictions for file sharing that disturb me far more:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10133425-38...
http://news.cnet.com/2010-1071-946732.html
Terry Schiavo, RIP. Fuck Delay and bush.
means wanting to protect all human life, fetus, etc., right? That means you can't be pro-war. Correct? Am I missing something.
Yes, but in war we only kill the bad people.
..a lawyer not the person who made the decision to remove the feeding tube so, of course in the mind of conservatives that means he's a criminal. The only criminals were the people denying Michael Schiavo of his right to allow his wife (remember, married in a church and everything) to die with dignity.
and I don't believe as someone earlier suggested that, "Michael Schiavo is garbage." How dare you?
This man probably had to make the most gut-wrenching decision of his life and you make it sound as if he was about to shoot his wife in the head. I only hope that you never, ever are put into that situation but if you are, make sure you alert the media so we can see how you choose to deal with it! However, if it will help your psyche and conscience, I'm sure you can volunteer to take care of any number of brain-dead patients. Have you signed up yet?
Talk is cheap!
I understand that Terry Shiavo's brain was dissected in an autopsy, and was shown to have had a "ZERO, Natha, GooseEgg, Bupkas" possibility of any recovery.
For those religulus types I'd ask, "Where was Terry's soul when her physical body was kept functioning but her mind was non-operational?" Then I'd ask them, "Would it be O.K. if you were kept in that condition for...oh... let's say 40 years.?"
For any of these types I'd ask, "Would you want Thomas Pirelli or Tom Delay at the helm of making the decisions affecting your body and spirit?"
Anyone protesting Pirelli and the Schiavo decision MUST be willing to answer, "Yes." to living in the 'taint dead & 'taint alive zone for 40 years.
I'm hoping this will only further expose the right wing for what they are. I hope that is getting to the point where they only people who care about this crap are the extreme right. The Palinistas who think that high school dropout unemployed unwed speedfreak parents are just fine... as long as they are Republicans.
It also appears that they must be so afraid of dying that they project their insanity even to living corpses. Schiavo was brain dead as the autopsy indicated. They are afraid of dying because eternity is a long time to be burning in hell. They know there is a very good chance that is where they are going (if there was a hell).
Criminal lying tiny foot(size 6) drunk tyrant who lost his mind sniffing all of that toxic bug spray. Crazy fucking Republicans...love slaughtering brown people, but will stop the Government to save a brain dead white woman whose skull was as hollow as a coconut(sorry). Tjb at 09:07 is exactly right...fucking justice denied.
have with their shenanigans, we will watch the Dems whimper and try to cater to their sensibilities.
First off why is DeLay in jail yet? You see what happened to Frist after he got involved. He back home in Tn thinking of ways to screw patients out of their money. These republicans forget why they lost the election in the first place. Even republicans say they over stepped their bounds. So keep it up republicans and you will stay a minority party for a very long, long time.
Who cares if it's sh*t?
Eric Holder has NO BUSINESS being Atty.Gen'l.
THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS MAN facing confirmation hearings to become the next Attorney General of the U.S. and nobody is talking about it at ALL. EVERYONE needs to Wiki up the Senate Judiciary Committee and email each and every member about the unsuitability of Eric Holder for this very important office NOW!
There are Big People in this world and there are little people.
Little people are like me - we work (when we can), raise our kids, try to make ends meet, serve our country (sometimes getting injured or disabled in the process, like me), and if we commit a crime, we are charged, we go to trial and if found guilty (likely, as we usually cannot afford competent legal representation), we pay the penalty and go to jail. We are the George Baileys and Mr. Martinis of Bedford Falls. We do all the living and dying around here, mostly unnoticed.
Big People, on the other hand, have other people raise their kids. They have no problems making ends meet. They don't serve their country and neither do their kids - their country serves THEM. They would never be at risk of any injury more serious than a broken leg from skiing or a worn wrist from tennis or sailing. And if suspected of a crime, they RARELY are charged. When they are, they are rarely found guilty and when they are, they rarely serve jail time. They are the Mr. Potters of Bedford Falls. They own the banks and the housing tracts and the factories and when they die, it's a big media event, whether anyone actually loved them or not.
Big People have Big Money and Big Power to serve them. They don't have to worry. About anything.
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If this is all true, you're right, he has no business being in any position of trust, authority or influence.
But I've been acutely disappointed in most of Obama's choices and am of the opinion that Obama is giving his base and America the finger. Not much different than Bush, just better rhetoric.
Enough said!
Poor Terry Schiavo's brain had atrophied to a size below any possibility of cognitive capacity. While this may be normal for some conservative ditto-(should I say, 'pin-')heads, her recovery was an impossibility from the start of the frufarah,and pulling the plug was a mercy.
Oh, please, let them huff and puff loudly about Terri Schiavo. This is playing to the same tiny base that
they always do. The hard-core 'pro-life" crowd. And which, they must forget, actually ended up working against them and showing, via Frist's video debacle and "Justice Sunday" just how ridiculous they are. Just as with Holder they want to bring up Elian Gonzales.
This bunch can't do anything but play to its extremists. I'm really looking forward to the various hearings.
And hopefully the Dems will come prepared to take on the Repubs on the committees. But it will be fun watching the Repug blowhards.
Sorry, I just cannot get past the screen cap of that thing..LMAO
The way I see it, they're trying too retain their base. The future Admin. seems too have cut into same.
They are so concerned about pulling a feeding tube from a piece of meat that had been brain dead for so long that its brain had atrophied down to the size of an orange, but they can somehow countenance the murder of over 1.4 million Iraqis, 4500(+)US troops, 3,000 American citizens in a "galvanizing event like Pearl Harbor", an ongoing act of genocide by Israel, the death penalty, the injuriing and maiming of a couple million Iraqis....
Who do these viscious, amoral thugs think they are fooling?
of the Bush admin's crimes, then these Shiavo style attacks will continue ad naseum. It will also set precedent for the next Repub President.
Obama has so far been a disappointment in his lead up to the inauguration. Rick Warren, cabinet nominees, and his totally ridiculous "one president at a time" nonsense. No problem standing in front of a bunch of flags in his crusade to save the almighty dollar but not a word about dead Palestinian kids, even though he mentioned "God" at least twice, aa if he was also the incoming head of the Church of America.
Seems like he is more of an egotistical b.s. artist then he is a change in direction based on his "actions" to date.
They want to roast this guy over having the audacity to support the sanctity of marriage?
Frakking dispsticks...
Are ignorant fools.
republican= insanity!
What's amazing here is that somehow these clowns still believe they held the sway of public opinion. This is so delusional. Don't any of them read? Or are they all as illiterate as Palin and Bush?
That's right - they "make their own reality" -- I forgot.
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I guess we just accept the fact that they're complete sociopaths and move on ...
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Isn't DeLay in prison? I thought this shameful thug was doing time along with Jack Abramoff. Why is he being quoted?
How a gal who supported hawks has the audacity to call Obama's pick a "death-peddler". I'll say it again: Katrina wasn't what did the GOP in; it was Schiavo. The American public saw the same "in-your-face" BS the Repugs pulled with Clinton, and it already started to feel voter's remorse. Katrina was just the final nail in their coffins.
yeah, we've had 8 years of brimstone & fire...so let's start fresh with leadership free of religious foklore ideology.
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