Will the media ever report about how low in the polling Republicans have sunk?
By John Amato Saturday Sep 26, 2009 6:00amWe constantly are seeing polling down from the major news services that follow President Obama's approval ratings and it is an important stat to keep track of, but can you tell me what the media is not covering? How low the Republicans have been polling ever since they became the party of "Waterloo."
The Democratic leaders do have terrible polling numbers, Nancy Pelosi has a 34% approval rating in DKOS's new poll and Harry Reid has a 31% approval rating, but let's take a look at the Republican leadership, shall we?
Mitch McConnell is polling at an 18% approval rating. That's eighteen percent. John Boehner is polling at 12% approval rating. Just think about that one. And it doesn't take much to make him cry. Mitch and Boehner are viewed less favorably than Dick Cheney was during the dark days of the Bush administration. Why don't we hear about that on teevee?
The overall approval ratings of Congressional Republicans is 17% as a party! The Dems are taking their lumps over this chaotic time, but nowhere near the kinds of wounds the GOP are suffering. The media make it appear that all these teabaggers are rallying around the RNC and the country just loves the Beltway elites' favorite party, but that's not true at all.
Let's see if we hear any of this on the Sunday talk Shows. But I won't hold my breath.
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As in what the French would yell out before tossing the contents of their chamber pots out the window into the street below during the Middle Ages.
Amato said,
"The media make it appear that all these teabaggers are rallying around the RNC and the country just loves the Beltway elites' favorite party, but that's not true at all.
I agree totally. ...Teabaggers are a party unto themselves.
real teabaggers know that Dems and Repubs are the same.
Actually they are not. As much as the democrats piss me off at times, I know most of them still want to improve things in this country for the vast proportion of the American people.
Republican's (100%) and bluedogs (20%) are the same, but the remaining Democrat's (80%), are way better than either of the two previously mentioned groups.
They are in no way shape or form the same. The results may appear so for the time being because of bluedog treachery. But at least the democrats are trying. The republican's, all 100% of them, are corporate Fascist's who don't give a rats-ass about the American people or this country.
They worked for thirty years to make this country the fascist banana republic shithole it now has become, and they love the work they did. Why do you think they oppose any reform anywhere the liberal's are proposing it?
Yes, they may both suck - absolutely! But there are different levels of suckitude. The democrats are mid-level suckitudes, while the republican's are off the chart, batshit crazy, evil suckitudes.
That is all class. We will have a quiz on Monday. Enjoy the weekend.
Ever since Obama was inaugerated Rasmussen has conducted generic congressional polls. Rasmussen consistently has reported Republicans favored over Democratics. A review of Real Politics poll of polls has shown that Rasmussen is the only poll that has ever reported that on the Generic Congressional question Republicans outpoll Democrats.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other...
you should too...Rasmussen is a sham..
Watching Faux News/GOP TV it's obvious that Scott Rasmussen and his right-wing polls are an exclusive favorite of the GOP TV /Faux News channel.
no.
Concise, to the point, and true.
The msm is just being responsible for not being mean to the patriots. After all, fox news and the glenster have called them out on their sinful ways more than once.
To report the pathetic standing of the GOP would be the equivalent of releasing a DHS report on right wing extremism.
It would be received as an attack on conservatives and the shrill wailing on Teevee would be unbearable.
In a country where the word "conservative" has come to be synonymous "wholesome, patriotic, and Christian" and "liberal" means "deviant, traitorous, and wicked", to point out the bankruptcy of the GOP has come to represent an attack on America itself.
Besides, it's a pretty sure thing those numbers came from a "liberal" source. ;)
That is good news for a Saturday morning.
I think that Pelosi's numbers have gone up dramatically in the past few months.
If she's paying attention, she'll notice that every "I support the Public Option" and "we will pass a bill with a public option" gives her a positive bump.
If the PO ends up being a co-op or on a trigger, she'll tank again.
you should considering bumping up that segment with adam nagourney and john harwood. it's very instructive on the media's role.
harwood and nags are not only surprised of the support for an option, contrary to perceived wisdom; they are surprised at how confused the public is over the policy. it couldn't possibly have anything to do with how the media presents all arguments are equally valid. it must be because the administration didn't fight back; and then watch the conversation be dominated by how the administration is on the defensive and the republicans see this as their chance to regain power.
The Republican wing of the Party of Power and Privilege is at 22%.
The Democratic wing of the Party of Power and Privilege is at 40%.
To me, neither one is worth one rat's ass. It looks to me like there is general agreement there.
Theresa Amato (Amazon) at Alternet, intro and excerpt here, another review here
Christ I've been saying that for quite some time and the response from several on this site is "You must be a Republican!"
The two party system is an illusion. Why else would some corporations contribute equal amounts to each party's candidate?
You must be a Republican? I would say you must be living in reality. However, there are fundamental difference between the two parties. The thing that binds them together is corporate special interests. Play the game or go home.
And the amount is generally not equal, with the republicans getting more, unless the election is close.
And they can't count on the Democrats just to give them everything they want like all the various tax breaks.
And you know Democrats overall, not counting the blue dawgs, tend to favor regulations on emission controls, and revamped CAFE standards, preservation of national parks, and not likely to put oil wells willy-nilly just anywhere, but corporate interests will be for.
But here's a thought, how many corporations are in lock-step with each other? What would happen if the Green Industry ever got large enough? And which party would be more likely to back Green Industry in it's infancy?
The differences are becoming fewer each year, and that may partly be a result of the closeness of the elections. we may see more contrast in party leadership in a landslide.
I'll give you another example of it not making a difference who gets in there.
During the last election, drill baby drill was the Republican mantra. Most people didn't like that idea and felt the Democrats would be advocates for a wiser energy policy.
Drilling off many areas of the East, West coast and Alaska are all on the table again.
Viva la differance!
will always have it on their agenda. Gas prices remain high so they can justify their goals. Oil companies need to be regulated and broken up.
I agree, monopolies need to be broken up.
The only problem here is monopolies have been commonly defined as an individual corporation growing too big, not an entire industry.
And now with the bachus health-reform bill, they're trying to do the same for medical insurance.
Now that I think of it TR's reforms around the progressive period of 1910 might be applicable, but then it was a general charge of corruption.
to agree, they get together to keep the prices high. They may not be monopolies but work together to act monopolistic.
It's not new though.
The National Democratic Party was anti-slavery, but regional Democratic Parties was usurped by the Archer Midland Daniels of it's day.
Every new generation has a Congress waving bloody shirts at each other, each one has problems that are unique to their period, but not as bad as they would claim.
We look as foolish looking for a pristine party as the republicans do looking for another ray gunn.
Even if new parties formed, they would be usurped by the powerful. It's human nature that once power is achieved, you seek to maintain, inevitably by linking yourself to other powerful interests.
What is needed is to throw a Luddite wrench into the machinery with real campaign finance reform and public campaign financing as well as a return of the Fairness Act.
Archer Daniel Midlands.
mostly true.
The Repugs would not have appointed Sotomayor.
But it's theater for the most part.
"Look how hard we're fighting each other!"
but that is a quote from a brilliant man who was referring to human rights and how the Republican and Democratic parties of that time embraced Jim Crow to oppress black people.
The question of human rights is still great today. As great as ever in some respects.
Dedrick Muhammad and Barbara Ehrenreich c/o Counterpunch here
Unemployment in Detroit is 28.9% and that is the rigged U3 number. I tremble at the thought of the more realistic U6 number.
Why wouldn't the main stream media report this? Has Kieth Olberman reported this yet? Has C&L? Has C&L been part of the conspiracy up until now?
You imply that the MSM are deliberately withholding this information, but you don't give any basis for their motivation other than some sort of unstated evilness on their part.
This is the kind of stuff you expect from Glenn Beck, not C&L.
If you looked at the actual link provided you would see the poll was taken 9/21/2009-9/24/2009, and odds are the results just released.
It's a rhetorical question on the likelihood that the MSM won't report it which is ironic considering they're called "leftist" by so many, and are full of their false equivalencies
But to be fair to to the media, they would probably point out that it's only a weekly poll.
One would also have to consider the source, Daily Kos is generally thought of as liberal.
I gained all that at a glance of 30 seconds. Do you like appearing uninformed?
What's significant is Obama is still at 54% approval ratings, but john boehner at 12%, and he's the most visible republican on the list. And the approval rating for Democrats is at 38% and republicans at 17%.
However, are people yet prepared to throw out their own rascals yet?
I didn't see mitch mcconnell's pcts until I looked at the text underneath the graph.
Wow, where did that come from? Of course I know that Kos is "generally thought of as liberal" (to put it mildly), and I noticed the dates also.
My whole point was that there was nothing in the C&L article to suggest that those might be reasons why it hasn't been reported. Instead they went straight to the conspiratorial claim: "...but can you tell me what the media is not covering?" and "Let's see if we hear any of this on the Sunday talk Shows. But I won't hold my breath."
But as I said about you accusing the site of making a conspiratorial claim, "It's a rhetorical question on the likelihood that the MSM won't report it(,) which is ironic considering they're called "leftist" by so many, and are full of their false equivalencies(.)"
There is no such thing as a mainstream media.
It is a corporate media, and the majority of it is under the control of 5 corporations.
about Obama's 50% approval rating as being some sort of threshold. funny, he didn't seem to worry when bush's approval was in the mid twenties.
B-b-but... history will vindicate the Chimperor! You'll see! YOU'LL SEE!!!!
*sputter*
Don'tcha know, the chimpster never looked at no polls
Proved he was a real leader, you betcha.
I think it's more fun to have the "shocking results" on election nights when they're thrown out on their asses en masse.
If I can't trust the news organizations fairly cover ALL news, then I most certainly cannot trust poll numbers.
particularly Rasmussen's numbers forever attached to Murdoch and his empire for the right wingers. If the right wants to be convinced that this is fair and balanced who is anyone to say no. Do they know what oxymorons are?
Low IQ'd people because of a slight delay of breathing on delivery?
A pill-popping dipshit, a-la Limpballs?
That would mean Baskins & Robbins has 32 flavors.
while reading the DKOS poll numbers. And the MSM will only say that "both parties" are polling terribly low in that fair and balanced world of false equivalencies that they live in. 34%, 31% and 38% favorables for pelosi, reid and the democratic congress respectively, are not good, BUT 18%, 12%, and 17% for mcconnell, boehner, and the the republicans in congress are not anywhere near equivalent - not in mathematics and not in real life. think about boehner's number - 12% favorable. that's one out of every 8 people polled has a favorable thought about this guy. you'd think that just twilight fans alone, or true blood fans would make that higher for one of their own, seeing as boehner is clearly one of the undead, the only congressman i know that sleeps in his native soil. how he gets to fill that tanning bed of his with soil from the carpathians and still maintain his orange luster is beyond me. i'll say it again - boehner, twelve percent (12%) favorable!!!
Corporate media reports things with a corporate and nationalistic mentality. You never get the full picture unless you go to international sites like BBC and the Guardian, and liberal blogs of course.
The ironic thing is these numbers are likely due in part to the rancor over health reform. But the gop will likely take it as a signal to be more like the tea baggers.
And they'll likely look for a knight on a white horse, and hucabee immediately leapt to mind.
Oh, please, please, please let it be the huckster!!
The deliciousness of the journey of the religious man, turning politician, turning fox news host - you can't make this stuff up!!
Who will show up on the stump?? A weird, comglomerate of each? It's truly politics in the age of 24 hour media.
Termites and woodpeckers?
Are woodpecker chicks referred to as a splinter off the ol woodpecker?
Your pecker is the size of a splinter.
It'll definitely be the a pecker.
Nope. It would help refute the myth Villagers and Neocons believe that their corporatist based belief system actually has value and their backward looking viewpoint is shared by the majority of Americans. In reality, neither is true.
The MSM would rather help promote a lie than tell the truth. Isn't that what Pravda did?
A photo-finish makes for better ratings.
Sorry John, but this polling data has already been dropped down the memory hole.
Sunday's talk shows will be filled with 12%er's, and 18%er's, gloating about how wonderful corporate fascism is - even if it's not.
Meanwhile, David Gregory will play with himself under his desk as he fawns over the GOPer's, giving the overwhelming opinion of ONE - about just how much the American people love conservatism - even if they don't.
70% disapproval rate
wow o.0
that's one hell of a fail right there
I don't buy that at all. At least at Rivero's site he has railed against the corporate bailouts and an aggressive US foreign policy. He has some conservative views, but his site is so primitive, IT DOESN'T really need funding.
Dude, clean the Cheetos crumbs off your keyboard,
Your shift key is stuck.
haha, just my 2 cents on why the US left is so weak
Libertarianism is the evil twin of Anarchism.
Both are untenable philosophies that will result in suffering on a massive scale given the current state of societal development.
The difference is that Anarchsim could work spectacularly given the right circumstances and a socially aware population that holds their fellow humans in as high regard as they hold themselves (highly unlikely to happen given human nature) while Libertarianism lacks even that caveat, producing a dog eat dog society backed by goons with guns and no social awareness other than that required to notice what their neighbours have and their weaknesses to be exploited to take it from them.
but in the NewsMax poll on Palin 88% of the losers said they'd support the moron in 2012.
Take a look around at your neighbours and think about that one.
Damn man US government is far-right wing by default. And if Sarah Palin becomes president, it will be real, real, real far to the right
a lot worse than Hitler and Caligula !!
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OBAMA IS 1000 WORSE THAN BUSH-II
Dear friends: Obama is more capitalist, and more far-rightist than Bush-II. In fact i don't know if you've noticed but Obama and the US fascist government has been doing the same scaremongering tactics that Bush's government used. Last week the FBI planted some fake-explosives in the car of a Jordanian Citizen. Arrested him without a reason, and set him up.
What kind of "Democracy" is US government when it does all kinds of evil shit against its own people.
Another thing like that that US cops use is that they pass around a black people's neighborhoods and throw small bags of cocaine and mariguana cigarettes in the front yard of black people in order to throw them in jail for years.
I live in Tennessee and the people around here are real hard working, nice and noble, and they are too scared of cops and scared against the US government's fascist repressive regime.
I don't know if all states in USA are the same. But in Tennessee the fascist pig cops are inside supermarkets harassing, abusing and molesting americans.
US government is a criminal government, where the US government's burocracy steals money, rape girls, abuses people and gets away with it.
Americans live in pain and a lot of suffering because of the fascist Obama who is 1000 times worse than Bush-II.
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A lot of what you are seeing is the result of Bush and the people he put in charge.
This is backlash of Republican cops punishing the people they have decided have betrayed the US.
Don't think most cops are Republican?
Take a look how they "enforce" the law when liberals are protesting, then compare that to their "enforcement" when Repugs are protesting.
That's not Dept policy my friends, that's personal policy by the men doing the enforcing.
Troll.
I am a socialist but I have to wonder out loud when I see something like this from someone calling themselves the United-Socialist-Front
The first thing I think is PLANT, but not as in house plant.
Maybe I am wrong but fascist pig cops is s-o-o-o symbionese liberation army, doncha know.
I see now; we appear to have a conservaturd masquerading as a more "liberal-than-thou" type."
On the ignore list you go.
a hundred thousand million billion times, just for the sake of accuracy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE
Dear Friends: I am an absolute Marxist, absolute Leninist and Trotskist. And i believe 100% in what they wrote. They said that political-systems change thru time, and by stages. I would like to ask you, when do you think that a Socialist Workers Party will rise to the US government. And how? Do you think that USA can be socialist electorally? Or as a result of a big, big crisis an a sort of breaking of the system, where a socialist coronel or socialist military out of the US Armed Forces takes power in USA?
I mean how and when do you think that we might see a socialist-system in USA?
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The US is trained to react adversely in pavlovian fashion to even the hint of socialism (unless of course it is to give money to corporations, that is capitalism in the US).
And it just get's worse every year.
You want socialism? You will have to leave the US.
It's that simple.
Although your Pavlovian analogy appears prima-facie appropriate, I don't think it's apt. Ivan Pavlov's most famous experiment was conditioning dogs to expect to be fed when a bell was rang. He observed when the bell was rang and no meat provided they salivated at the expected meal, a somewhat reflexive action, likely controlled by the limbic system.
So the dogs expected meat, the dogs liked meat, and the external stimulus made them want to eat the meat. That's not the same as a violent response against something.
50+ years of anti communist rhetoric has the public auto responding to anything that even hints of socialism with near physical revulsion.
The reaction is so strong as to produce violent response when the issue is pressed even if the facts are contrary to what the conditioned person believes. It is a repetitive conditioning that has created this anti socialist response, not unlike that of Pavlov's experiments.
I think my analogy is spot on.
But there's no hunger for socialism comparable to the dogs for the meat. It's the difference between appetite and abhorrence
However, in general terms, and dropping the Pavlovian analogy, it is conditioned response, similar to the training of guard dogs. I saw a documentary this week, on how Japanese American soldiers were used to train dogs to attack the Japanese during WWII. The guy in charge of the program (Swiss?) tried to claim dogs could smell the difference between races. After a few months the program was dropped, and the guy went oily tits on them, making threats against military and civilian brass, and then was "disappeared."
I remember now, it wasn't a documentary it was History Detective.
Would Stanley Milgram's experiments be a more apt analogy?
But that does not negate the correlation that US response to the concepts of socialism are Pavlovian like conditioned responses without grounding in experience or fact. Just reaction to specific stimuli that has been programmed in through repetitive conditioning sessions, in the case of the US media based association and societal reinforcement over a period of decades.
While Pavlov demonstrated the dogs could be conditioned for physical response to specific stimulus, the point was the conditioning.
There is very little difference to creating a salivation reaction to a sound and a violent revulsion to a word (also a sound).
The experiment was one of conditioning, the subjects reactions were just a demonstration of the effectiveness of the techniques.
Have advertisers made deliberate use of Pavlovian experiments, like say for Golden Corral or Black Angus?
I don't know, but it is established fact that ad agencies use research from a number of sources to produce auto reaction to sell product.
I would assume that Pavlov's data would be part of that data set.
It's "BRAINWASHING!"
I've been told that I do have a dirty mind.
Now lemony fresh!
I suppose if one includes the secondary compensation of more complex abstract thinking versus the primary compensation of the more primal than the analogy becomes correct.
There's more than one kind of desire to be pleased.
I'm still half-asleep today.
Those who react violently to socialism seem to do so with a knee jerk gut reaction that is devoid of thought.
They do it because they are repulsed by the very idea, they don't really seem to know why and most could not even explain what socialism is if questioned about it but they will still become violent at the mention of the word.
Now if they actually could explain it in detail with a clear understanding of what it was and their response was based on that clear understanding of the subject then I could see how it might be more of an abstract thought conditioning issue.
But these people don't even know what they are acting violently towards, all they know is they viscerally are so repulsed by the word that they will do anything up to and including perpetrating harm upon someone they perceive as representing socialist ideas in any form, even if those ideas are beneficial to them.
That seems to be more of a primal reaction than an abstract related process as they respond unthinkingly and without understanding to conditioned stimulus about something they know nothing about.
I was using abstract terminology to describe unconscious cerebrations.
Maybe they should rework the lyrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ
Meat is primary compensation, as is perhaps sex, most of the rest would be likely secondary, but still equally unconscious.
It's probably a combination of all of these conditioning techniques.
I doubt the perpetrators knew exactly which would work so they just inundated us with everything they had to make it take.
There is even some healthy social peer pressure type stuff at work as well, humans really do unconsciously try to fit in with what they think everyone else is doing and thinking even if they don't understand it.
The question is why didn't it take with us, and how can that be applied to break the conditioning in others?
That's part of the limbic system (reptilian brain) located in the hippocampus.
We seek survival through collectivism, ironically, and then seen either to be a leader or to find a good one.
So our hippocampus are less developed (or more evolved?) than those that require peer approval?
Less, but unlike an appendix is not superfluous.
In that case deconditioning the general public would be made difficult as they do not seem to possess this particular physical "defect".
I guess we are doomed to live in a world of mindless gut reactionaries and violently conditioned sheeple.
Bummer.
Now you see why I'm always joking.
To paraphrase Nietzsche, "Whenn you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you, so I laugh at it, because that really pisses it off."
Perhaps there is some chemical method that could be introduced into the food chain, maybe through some GM crop, that causes the same mutation (or at least the effects of the mutation) that has allowed us to break from the pack and think for ourselves.
Some food for thought, so to speak.
I just broke from a pack of Gauloises, and now I'm groggy all over again.
Sat, 09/26/2009 - 10:08 — Symes
In that case deconditioning the general public would be made difficult as they do not seem to possess this particular physical "defect".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipx_JRFdkKY
Sat, 09/26/2009 - 10:11 — Symes
Some food for thought, so to speak.
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But will we drool?
How else would be be able to tell those who have been deconditioned from those who haven't?
It would be best if we could make the drool colour coded...
That's why we're being fed so much spicy junk food, so the government can reap the military dividend when we get acid reflux.
After all when that spicy Taco Bell burrito starts coming back to haunt me I know I could kill anything, all I'd need is a push at the right target.
Can one light belches?
Nearly one hundred years of anti social propaganda.
Consider these clips from the work of the late (d 1988) Australian sociologist Alex Carey
The first and so far only scientifically drawn study of the history of the corporate war on democracy.
CORPORATIONS AND PROPAGANDA
The Attack on Democracy
Part 1 - history through WWII
Part 2 - history after WWII
Mariah Gilardian at TUC radio (user supported) here, produced the clips.
Socialism is a continuum; we're probably at roughly the point where John Maynard Keynes was with a regulatory regime instead of full-fledged state control of the means of production on one extreme end, and lassiez-faire/caveat emptor on the other.
But until we have regulatory agencies that actually regulate the industries and not in effect act as lobbyists, we're getting uncomfortably close to fascism.
We already came close during the early 1930's and there were actual American Communist Parties, but also American Nazi Parties, and a near fascist coup in 1933 by Wall Street interests.
preston boosh, the grandfather of the last pretender was among the conspirators, according to BBC Radio 4, and even had a bank he was director of taken out of his control by the government for dealing with the enemy.
Our local Texas Media never reports that, but regularly runs doughy pantload's liberal fascism.
United-Socialist Front said this:
OK, I have fix on this now.
You are pulling our leg.
Shouldn't that be Trotskyist?
And I always thought Leon Trotsky was closer to Marxism than either Vladimir Lenin or Joseph Stalin with their party as the vanguard of the proletariat nonsense.
Noam Chomsky
Our Generation, Spring/Summer, 1986 here
A very insightful and useful article to understand the confiscation of the term socialism by Lenin
I bookmarked it to read when I'm more alert.
My completed post.
United-Socialist Front said this:
OK, I have fix on this now.
You are pulling our leg.
But it did give us a nice little side thread on social conditioning that was a pleasant distraction. :)
I like picking at loose threads
Scabs too.
And you, whoever you are, more than anyone needs to read this:
Noam Chomsky
Our Generation, Spring/Summer, 1986 here
A very insightful and useful article to understand the confiscation of the term socialism by Lenin and how the State Capitalists let him get away with it.
These racist Nazi do not understand how their Ignorance stands out, as I read some of the post. This Administration has been trying to Investigate the Bush, Cheney CRIME FAMILY for the last nine months and the Racist Nazi Party has been fighting it tooth and nail, even t go so far as with draw from the now CIA investigations on a promise that they wouldn't be investigated, sorry you Lying pieces of FECES your word means nothing and NO ONE is above the Law, the pulled out because they have to Lawyer up. This is a serious OBSTRUCTIONIST Party that is working only for the interest of their party and what the Corporations have to offer.
What bothers them the most this President was ELECTED not Appointed and Approved.
Allowing for trade offs as that is what Compromise is about this President is Trying to meet the peoples needs wants and desires.
Most of all I as a American retired Military Combat vet. can walk with my head High knowing I have a Congress and President who is looking out for the Future of my Country NOT by wrapping himself in the Flag NOT by Photo Ops with the TROOPS and NOT by professing a belief in the Deity of choice, but by RESPECTING me as a FELLOW AMERICAN my Dreams Ideals, Deity and Ambitions, not like the RNC or GOP operating through DECIET Twisted Lies and Manipulation, Hatred, Bigotry and Racism and acting as Obstructionist in the guise of caring for me while working behind the scenes to strip me of everything. RNC< GOP the paryt of HATE Intolerance, Indifference and Ignorance.
This President can Communicate in a clear and concise matter and this President CARES about the People of this Coountry.
This President is in the process of restoring out Image as a True Compassionate Global Leader.
There is a growing anti-incumbent sentiment. Many aren't even sure what they want, just "not these guys". I haven't seen this kind of anti-incumbent push since just post-Nixon, "throw the bums out" days.
It seems more from the right, they want everyone out Dems & Reps (except maybe Ron Paul for some). The more left you go, the independents still want many incumbents out, and only the left seems to want just the leadership and all the Republicans out.
It may be a bloody midterm election.
Ron Paul is a neoliberal. I dont really understand why people love Ron Paul so much. Under his system food and life will get real expensive. Under his system we won't be ruled by the US gov. but by Exxon, Wal Mart, Black Water and Pepsi Cola (By the private sector) he is an Ayn Randist. And Ayn Rand and her philosophy was very immoral, classist, oligarchic and racist..
The only solution i see for USA is a type of Bolivarian Democratic Socialism like in Venezuela and Norway
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Ron Paul has severe bipolar disorder.
Good thing Santa don't.
Reslugs never needed any help in killing their disgusting, uncaring, No IDEAS, party. They are doing a good job of being the party of "lIARS" and "NO" to everything that benefits all Americans.
What I thought might be an interesting website is a bunch of dumb asses debating the merits of two organizations whose primary goal is to stay in elected office living off the public trough by making wild promises that cannot be kept.
This website should be devoted to the crooks and liars of both parties and not overrun with the Neo Con's and Neo Libs defending their crook and liar's daily position. We are not going to get change of any kind unless the political landscape has some major changes.
in all of 2 hours after signing up?
Dude, you are AWESOME! Most people would have to take, oh, say 3 or 4 days to read enough comments here to make that kind of analysis.
Is there some secret to your awesomeness?
He's a "conservative" troll.
Ain't that just awesome?
Don't worry, sooner or later even the Tea Party people, the Republican Party voters, the Democratic Party voters and all americans who are noble, hard working people and good will come together and support the ideology of Socialism of the 21st Century. Traditional Political Parties are collapsing and people in the whole planet are moving toward leftist ideology, when they realize how poorer and poorer economically they are getting by electing capitalist free market political parties for decades.
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[Your screeds are off topic. If you want to talk about off topic subjects, we have open threads for that-Sitemonitor]
You should read my links here
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I am concerned with the eminent practicalities of socialism and not the Ideology of Socialism.
I still think you are a plant.
I miss Saturday Morning cartoons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pyHv3uKmtw
What happened?
All there is now are crappy daytime shows, infomercials and a handful of cartoons aimed at 3 year olds.
At least Rocky and Bullwinkle are still there, albeit at 5 am.
You know what else I seriously miss?
2 hours of monster/horror flicks (usually of the Hammer variety) at 12pm then another 2 hours of Kun Fu theatre right after.
Those were the days of kid oriented programming on the weekends!
I blame the do-gooders:
"Ooh, not nice, shoving sticks of dynamite into someone's mouth might be considered advocating violence."
I caught up with Hammer the same way. Funny thing though they didn't cut out much of the violence (pretty mild by todays standards), but would edit The Vampire Lovers, Lust For A Vampire and Twins of Evil so ragged they no longer made any sense.
And you forgot these marathons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkOAIS1RIKg
And this was how I discovered I had a penis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHS49YNam10
Godzilla, Mothra, Gomora and UltraMan, man I miss all that.
When Bob Wilkins died and Creature Features went off the air it seemed even the daytime slots dried up for that stuff.
I know you are, but what am I.
Well struck, John. Well struck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYpTwnqrMSE&fe...
The media has had ample time to mention this. Each time they talk about the ignorant teabaggers, they never mention the lack of a jump in the polls for the GOP. And the Sunday shows have had plenty of chances to mention this starting last week when Boehner was on Meet The Press. I suspect that David Gregory tells all of his guest that they'll be allowed to "FRAME" the discussion the way he did with his email to Mark Sanford's office. Of course Sanford still didn't have the balls to go on his show.
And I keep hearing the meme of how bad 2010 and 2012 will be for the Democrats. The talking heads in the media fail to admit the potential consequences of the sheer lunacy which has taken over the GOP an its elected officials. Add to the fact that the GOP has no ideas and we still hear about how the electorate will somehow go running back into the arms of the Republicans.
I still think you are a plant.
Read my link here
Even so I would not have deleted the comment. I would like to see what those links were.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0MPR-EPdLk
Unfortunately people don't understand that the right-wingers will just stand in the way of progress, therefore the Dems. get lumped under the "Congress" heading, even when they don't deserve it.
I agree with the author of this blog. The media don't want the public to know about the Republican fall in the polls because they have a direct interest in causing controversy as it pertains to all this classless dialogue that has been taking place as it pertains to the president and the Democrats. The media talking heads should be called the Instigators.
The media networks objective is to create as much controversy as possible,therefor they intentionally leave out pertanent information that the public should have to make an informed assessment of what's going on. We the people need to become as active as possible in what ever manner we can that's legal and call out every network and their anchor,analyst, etc.
Are these numbers from a national poll or from Pelosi, Reed, McConnell and Boehner's districts? If they're national it really makes no difference since the nation doesn't elect them to office.
support,
but get 90% of the media coverage.
The U.S. corporate media is useless when it comes to honesty and reliability in reporting news.
Their goal is to make us all stupid, so they can take advantage and profit from our ignorance.
I agree completely with your assessment.
They will never let a third party or a third party candidate rise to power , look what they did to Ross Perot ( sp ? ) .The Democratic has Obama and a handful of genuine straight up good guys which is more than the Republican party can offer . One thing for sure , I will NEVER EVER vote for a Repug , we've a choice between bad and much worse , I'll go with the bad .
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