John Boehner's Double-Dealing on the Debt Ceiling
If it appears that John Boehner is suffering from multiple personality disorder over the debt ceiling stand-off, that's because he is. Torn between his duty to the national interest as Speaker of the House and to the Tea Party caucus that put him there, for months Boehner has ping-ponged between truth and lies on the debt ceiling. Long before he breached faith with the President on Friday, John Boehner tried to have it both ways on virtually every aspect of the debt ceiling crisis manufactured by the Republican Party he struggles to lead.
As Jed Lewison documented, Speaker Sybil couldn't get his story straight on Friday's walkout. While he insisted during his press conference afterward that "we had an agreement on a revenue number," in a letter that same day to House Republicans Boehner insisted that "A deal was never reached, and was never really close."
As it turns out, John Boehner's duplicity started long before he picked up the Speaker's gavel.
In the wake of the Republicans' overwhelming triumph at the polls last fall, Speaker-to-be Boehner was his party's voice of reason on the debt ceiling. As the Wall Street Journal reported on November 18 ("Boehner Warns GOP on Debt Ceiling"), Boehner pressed his newly enlarged Republican caucus on the need to raise the debt ceiling and so protect the full faith and credit of the United States.
"I've made it pretty clear to them that as we get into next year, it's pretty clear that Congress is going to have to deal with this," Mr. Boehner, who is slated to become House speaker in January, told reporters.
"We're going to have to deal with it as adults," he said, in what apparently are his most explicit comments to date. "Whether we like it or not, the federal government has obligations and we have obligations on our part."
If an increase in the current debt limit of $14.3 trillion does not pass, it would suggest the country may not meet its obligations and would shake the financial system. It could rock the bond market, rattle the dollar and scare away foreign buyers of U.S. debt.
In January, Boehner echoed Paul Ryan's warning that "you can't not raise the debt ceiling" and Lindsey Graham's dire prediction that failure to do so would produce "collapse and calamity throughout the world." As Speaker Boehner put it then:
"That would be a financial disaster, not only for our country but for the worldwide economy. Remember, the American people on Election Day said, 'we want to cut spending and we want to create jobs.' And you can't create jobs if you default on the federal debt."
But that same month, Boehner was also insisting President Obama would have to make concessions to Republicans on the debt ceiling that George W. Bush, needless to say, never faced:
The American people will not stand for such an increase unless it is accompanied by meaningful action by the President and Congress to cut spending and end the job-killing spending binge in Washington.
After bringing the government to the brink of a shutdown over budget cuts demanded by the GOP in April, a newly confident Speaker Boehner made abundantly clear he would join the hardliners in the House and Senate holding the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling hostage. As Politico reported, Boehner set out to prove "there's no daylight between the Tea Party and me":
House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), fresh off the budget talks, told donors this weekend that if Obama wants an up or down vote on the debt ceiling he's not going to get it.
"The president says I want you to send me a clean bill," Boehner said. "Well guess what, Mr. President, not a chance you're going to get a clean bill."
"There will not be an increase in the debt limit without something really, really big attached to it," he continued in a clip of his remarks at a fundraiser that was played during "Face the Nation."
That really, really big "something" turned out to be the draconian Paul Ryan budget. After refusing to endorse the Ryan Roadmap during the 2010 campaign, John Boehner joined 234 House Republicans and 40 GOP Senators in voting for the Ryan plan. But Ryan's blueprint didn't merely privatize Medicare, slash Medicaid and deliver yet another tax cut windfall for the wealthy; it would also add another $6 trillion in debt over the next decade. As a result, the GOP's own Ryan budget not only violates the "Cut, Cap and Balance Act" spending targets they just voted for this week. It would also require the Republicans to raise the ceiling repeatedly in the future.
In a rare moment of candor, Speaker John Boehner admitted as much.
As Reuters detailed, Speaker Boehner told a gathering of Buckeye state Tea Partiers in April that the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling must be raised now - and not for the last time:
The private April 25 meeting was convened by the Speaker of the House of Representatives at the request of Tea Party leaders, who were seething over recent Republican compromises, most notably on the 2011 budget.
One of the 25 or so leaders, all from Boehner's district, asked him if Republicans would raise America's $14.3 trillion debt limit.
According to half a dozen attendees interviewed by Reuters, the most powerful Republican in Washington said "yes."
"And we're going to have to raise it again in the future," he added. With the mass retirement of America's Baby Boomers, he explained, it would take 20 years to balance the U.S. budget and 30 years after that to erase the nation's huge fiscal deficit.
If Congress doesn't raise the debt limit by August 2nd, Speaker Boehner agreed with President Obama that the federal government could not guarantee that Social Security checks would sent out as required. And as Boehner explained just 10 days ago, that's just the beginning of the dire consequences if the Treasury's August 2 deadline is missed:
"Missing August 2nd could spook the market. And you could have a real catastrophe. Nobody wants that to happen."
As it turns out, that's precisely what many of his Republican colleagues want to happen. And in late June, Boehner joined the "default deniers" claiming the Obama administration's warnings about that early August deadline were "scare tactics" and "outright blatant lies":
"Dealing with this deficit problem is far more important than meeting some artificial date created by the Treasury secretary."
Of course, John Boehner played a vital role in the creation of the massive national debt he now routinely decries.
Leave aside for the moment that Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt and increased the debt ceiling 17 times. Forget also George W. Bush nearly doubled the debt or that the Bush tax cuts were the biggest driver of debt over the past decade, and if made permanent, would be continue to be so over the next. Pay no attention to the federal tax burden now at its lowest level in 60 years or income inequality at its highest level in 80 years after a decade of plummeting rates for America's supposed job creators who don't create jobs. Ignore for now that Republican majorities voted seven times to raise the debt ceiling under President Bush and the current GOP leadership team voted a combined 19 times to bump the debt limit $4 trillion during his tenure. Look away from the two unfunded wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the budget-busting Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 and the Medicare prescription drug program because, after all, John Boehner voted for all of it.
Alas, that was then and this is now. And now, a Democrat is in the White House. Which means for John Boehner, raising the debt ceiling at all is now a "concession." As UPI reported two weeks ago:
At a news conference Monday before heading to the White House for a meeting, Boehner said the only Republican concession Obama should expect is a vote raising the federal debt limit itself.
"Most Americans would say that a 'balanced' approach is a simple one -- the administration gets its debt-limit increase and the American people get their spending cuts and their reforms," he said. "And adding tax increases to the equation doesn't 'balance' anything."
Not, that is, for the unbalanced John Boehner.
(This piece also appears at Perrspectives.)




a prick is a prick unless
he's also a DICK...........
as we all know boehner is.....
/snark on
Go ahead and send the U.S. economy over a cliff and wreck the country. American voters will love you for that and vote for all of you.
This will work for you. Trust me.
/snark off
I hate this kabuki playing asshole. Go off and cry, resign, and leave us alone.
...than having Cantor as the Speaker of the House. Cantor's seems to be on the stupid side of stupid... but he may be the bigger zealot. Better? Dunno.
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How's that Speaker thingie work'n for 'ya, Boner-Boy?
We're enjoying the show.
Are you?
Christianity. What a damnable disgrace.
Both party's are pretty much kaput. Useless, totally dysfuntional . . etc. End of life . . whatever your fav nomenclature is.
Probably the best move is for everyone to take the day off, pay off every debt you have, then crack open a cool one and think. "I got mine, I feel sorry for the poor bastards who are victims but it's not my responsiblity".
You must be a Libertarian.
Cite the 14th Amendment, raise the debt ceiling, and retire the Bush tax cuts. Sure, the right will demonize you, but it's not like they've been your best buds up until now anyway.
Well said.
Let the Supreme Court sort it all out. They are determined to take this presidency down. He may as well go down with dignity.
he might find that he has more support than he thinks. Go ahead, let the Wingnuts try to impeach him, if he has the peoples' support, it'll only backfire on the Republicans come election day. They already look like a bunch of petty, vindictive, obstructionist assholes, he should use that to his advantage.
end the bush wars in Afghanistan, 'mission accomplished' Iraq war, here is an article for you:
http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/07/25/...
go away mr boehner.
You might have something there.
The republicans will never do anything but find ways to obstruct the president anyhow. If they move to impeach him it really won't be any loss.
Notice how the republicans have done nothing but obstruct and impede for years now. They will not stop doing this, ever. They no longer know how to do anything else. They no longer know how to legislate.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Where do I sign up?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Do these republicans actually buy into the bullshit they regularly spew forth from their perpetually flapping jowls, or are they so busy pandering to whoever will pay attention that reality becomes a secondary concern?
Son, I am dissapoint.
I'm getting real tired of every job-creating social program the President pushes through being called a "job-killing job-killer."
Funny how outsourcing and corporate downsizing were never called that. Republicans excused them as "necessary to remain competitive."
The book of the year...
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What a tool. He is representative of the spineless dwarfs that serve in modern politics.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Obama made this mess now he blames everyone else for his massive debt.WTF people wake up we have to cut spending and yes we have to raise the debt ceiling but whats wrong with cutting spending .. oh i forgot then most of you wont get your welfair checks
Fail troll is fail.
1) Lern 2 spel. Seriously. You write like a drugged out 8th grader.
2) Obama did not create this mess. Bush did. What with 2 incredibly expensive wars, misguided education reform, sucking the toes of the wealthy, all off the heels of a pretty generous surplus left behind by a... GASP... DEMOCRATIC president.
Son, I am dissapoint.
OBAMA made this mess? You don't understand the debt ceiling do you? This is about money that was ALREADY spent. You know, in the TWO wars that the GOP started that were kept off the books and financed with loans from Communist China?
You know why the debt went up? Because Obama was HONEST, and but the wars and invasion ON the books, instead of hiding them from the American people like Bush did.
Thanks for the lame attempt, concern troll.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
they hate you. Wow. That got a lot accomplished clown
did you get your welfair check this month?maybey sucking because your good at that
FLAGGED for being a moron in public.
Capitalization, plz.
Welfare, not welfair. Maybe, not maybey. You're, not your.
Also, what? Are you under the impression that a confusing statement makes you right?
Son, I am dissapoint.
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Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
ihateconservatives.
First they ignore us..then they ridicule us..now they are feeding us chicken crap- sign my petition:
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I saw a mailbox with your name on it in front of a rock down the street. Why don't you crawl back under your rock, read your latest National Review, if, indeed you can read. You certainly can't spell, that's for sure.
this one's for u:
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/20/2...
its 10 years ago.....bush's tax cuts...
my, my
how quickly you forget?
Yer kinda funny, but really st00pid.
far left loon >.<
Great article. Creepy guy. Awful party.
The same people convinced the people with Big Lies to unleash war upon Iraq in 2003. The democratic party acquiesced, and conspired to create the fiction that 'good people were misled by poor intelligence'.
No one was held accountable. Why shouldn't the GOP believe they can get away with anything? They are certainly the villains, but they're not the fools in this story.
Is that kinda like the war with Libiya? or i will close gitmo in 1 year i know lets just keep blaming Bush lol your to funny
As good of an example as any of why this country's in so much trouble. Knuckle-draggers like this one are too stupid to understand that the pablum they're being force fed is killing them.
Thanks for the reminder, ihatelibrals [sic . . and sick]
Dam, I is glad we'ir knot waistin taxplayer muney on thoze stoopid teecherz...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
No skoolin.
far left loon >.<
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Christianity. What a damnable disgrace.
Sure Boehner's a lying son-of-a-bitch, but let's be honest about why he and the GOP are being such stubborn imbeciles.
They have learned from Obama's previous repeated capitulations, even when the GOP were only sizable minority, they they could get Obama to give them outsized, underserved say in all matters of governing. They have been steadily increasing their demands and steadily becoming less and less willing to comprimise because for them it PAYS politically to be irresponsible when governing.
The great appeaser's delusion about becoming some sort of great national unifier has allowed them to impose their minority will on him and the nation. This is just another price we are paying because Obama'a failed leadership.
Obama's heart is in the right place. Unfortunately, being a democratic president in this day and age means being an unarmed leper in a knife fight with a rabid wolverine. Compromise SHOULD be the name of the game, but instead both parties are fighting for political power instead of listening to their constituents.
Son, I am dissapoint.
... of Richard Nixon!
If anything, Obama is an independent. He's conceding to the right in the hopes of actually getting something done, seeing as they are hell bent on blocking anything he does. It's misguided, but at least he's trying. There's an Onion article, while extremely funny in typical Onion tradition, is actually very sadly accurate as to the state of the GOP-led house.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/congress-get...
Son, I am dissapoint.
If he's an Independent then he should have run as one and not as a Democrat.
This attitude by so many Obama supporters of apologizing for Obama's choosing to govern like a Republican or Independent instead of as a Democrat is beyond belief. He deserves no support from Democrats because he doesn't choose to govern like one, period.
He's a Republican wannabe weakling who is lacking executive skills and never should have been elected to the presidency as a Democrat. He's beyond awful.
liberal, which he clearly is not. Or if he had run as an independent. Would you have voted for McCain? Would Obama, had he been elected under any circumstance NOT pissed off the crazies of the right? It's difficult to see where you are going with any of this because the right owns the media, the right doesn't believe in democracy, unless they are running it, and their hatred of anything that smacks of personal liberty is becoming more apparent every day. The country would be exactly where it is now, even if he had flexed his muscles. And it's quite apparent that had he done very many things that seemed remotely liberal, matters would be even worse. This is a holy war to the crazies.
was not seeing that these people were out to destroy his presidency, at any cost. He should have booted Lieberman rather than having Reid kowtow to him, as a first step. He never realized how deep this real disdain for democracy, unless the Republicans are running the democracy, has become.
He's a slightly to the right of center conservative Democrat. It doesn't thrill me, but it should have thrilled them. It would have if this was an ideological battle, but it's not about ideology. It's about having a black Democrat sitting in THEIR White House.
yup,
"Nearly 10 years ago Today, The US Began Borrowing Billions To Pay For The Bush Tax cuts"
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/20/2...
thanx republicans, and the GOP....you too..
traitors..
This is a terrific article that makes for a great timeline of the double dealing of this guy. He's about as dysfunctional and disorganized as a person in a leadership position could possibly be. Boehner needs to lay off the cocktail parties and get to work. It's astonishing that people of this caliber, he and his tea party freshmen who lead him around by the nose, could bring down the world's economy just because they can.
It's one thing to make comments about his drinking, but it's another to actually look at how this guy operates. This guy definitely has all the traits and characteristics of an alcoholic. Ask a pro. The blame game tells it all. It's everyone's fault but his.
Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
previous generations, present generation and probably those to come. This guy couldn't settle his bar bill, let alone the deficit crisis that he and his masters have concocted.
When the polls are in their favor the Republicans say “we have to listen to the American people” when the polls are against (like now on taxes) they say “polls don’t matter we have to do what’s best for the American people” and they never get called on it.
Defense spending is the largest black hole for our tax dollars. Both Democrats and Republicans allow the uneducated American to believe this is the same as Military spending. Military spending is a small fraction of this. Almost all of Defense spending is the contracts that sound like treason to me. Contractors charging $200 for a toilet seat and $1 Billion for a prototype of a personal jet-pack that will never be used. Trillions of dollars are currently being spent to build 3 new submarines to add to out fleet of dozens against an enemy who lives in the dessert. If the United States needs money it only needs to cut Defense. I get so tired when politicians ignore the elephant in the room because these contractors donate/bribe them. I know where to find the money.
Submarines have nothing to do with water. Submarines are invisible missile launchers. That's their purpose. The fact that they use water to get where they need to be is a bonus.
Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
A nice strawberry shortcake, maybe.
is there anyone paying attention who doesn't know that?
This whole debt ceiling scam is also being aided and abetted by the Dims, including the President (ever hear of disaster capitalism - the Shock Doctrine? ). We may have two parties - but they have one real goal.....to suck up as much of the wealth of this nation as they possibly can.
The corpora- fascist CEOs and the banksters OWN all of them (Congress, Pres, SCOTUS)...and they do the bidding of the elite class; very few of them have actually been 'serving' the People for the past several decades. They are all oh, so willing to cut benefits from the very young, elderly, sick and disabled while stuffing their pockets. Most of those in Congress are millionaires many times over.....they vote to maintain that status.
The MIC that Ike warned us about has been gradually doing exactly what he said they would do. All of the real liberal leaders were killed when they got in the way. Obama lied to get elected, and he will continue lying in order to stay in office - and continue serving his real masters.... and we will still be screwed!
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
John Boehner, proof positive that being a braying jackass pays well.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I would like to know how Boehner sleeps at night. I guess it is easy for him because he a complete sociopath. It seems like he is always laughing and smiling in nearly all of the news clips. In the meantime, my 78 year old grandmother cannot sleep at night because she is afraid that she is going to lose everything when she cannot pay her bills next month. Behner seems to think that it is perfectly ok to throw elderly people out on the streets so that he can continue with his war mongering and corporate ass kissing ways. The only person that Boehner cares about is himself.
Scotch. Lots of scotch.
me-oww!
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