"Please don't divorce..."
Infamous prosecutor Ken Starr has filed a legal brief -- on behalf of the "Yes on 8" campaign -- to nullify the 18,000 same-sex marriages performed in California between May and November of 2008.
Yes, they really did go there after promising repeatedly not to do this.
It's time to put a face to Ken Starr's shameful legal proceedings. To put a face to the 18,000 couples facing forcible divorce. To put a face to marriage equality. Because, gay or straight, YOU are the face of the Marriage Equality Movement.
The Courage Campaign just launched "Please Don't Divorce" a community photo project. They will break your heart and have made me cry on more than one occasion.
Please click through the photos in the slideshow above and then submit your own photo, as an individual, a couple or in a group (perhaps with your family over the holidays). Take a picture holding a piece of paper that says "Please don't divorce us," "Please don't divorce my moms,""Please don't divorce my friends, Dawn and Audrey," "Please don't divorce Californians" or whatever you want after "Please don't divorce..." and send it to: pleasedontdivorce@couragecampaign.org.
(full disclosure: I work for the Courage Campaign)
F*cking jag off, selfish, sociopath republicans. Gotta love 'em.
I'm going to sound a bit crass here, but has anyone ever done scientific research into the phenomenon of lesbian couples? I'm of course talking about the phenomenon in which in the coupled relationship, theres the lesbian that is more male-like in their personality, and the female thats very feminine in their personality? I just think its an odd coincidence.
What's worse than the Jag Offs is their MSM enablers.
Check the financial connections between this far-right-wingnut financier and Ken Starr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucqDoP2FZw
Why won't Ken Starr just go away? Just... just go away. By yesterday.
Anyway, the wrapping's done, I'm dressed in my monkey suit and I'm waiting to commute to Boston to make small talk while dinner's made with in-laws and a certain daughter's beau that I really don't like.
So I might as well take the time to wish ya'll a safe and happy holidays.
JP
http://giveusthisdayourdailtydread.blogspot.com
sorry
I saw a picture in there with a bust of Harvey Milk. If you haven't seen Sean Penn's movie Harvey Milk I suggest you all go see it. Great movie of a powerful man. If he was alive today Prop 8 wouldn't have passed
is intended to be a factual statement
Yes, they really did go there after promising repeatedly not to do this.
Come on. You didn't really believe they weren't going to pull this, did you? Since WHEN have these people ever kept their word about anything? OF COURSE they did this. It follows logically from the way they always act. Did you really think that bigots who fight to take away others' rights are suddenly going to stop because gay people were allowed to marry for a while? No way.
Try not to be so gullible!
Read this before leaving to visit my Republican family. I'm still furious. If any of them decide to offer a justification for opposing gay marriage, they're gonna need the help of their non-existent god.
FWIW, I'll be starting with "Liar!" and then going from there.
Might as well just tell them you can't deal with them any more and leave and call it a day. If they offer a justification for opposing gay marriage why bother with them... ever?
As an American citizen who is gay, it tears my heart out that gays and lesbians are relegated to second class citizenship by the tyranny of the majority. Here in Arizona, we put up a valiant fight against overwhelming odds and lost. I hope in California they are able to defeat the forces of tyranny in the guise of "family values". Since when is it a "family value" to rip apart families?
Election 2012: Be Educated! Be Active! Vote!
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I really hope and pray that these heinous, outrageous and downright evil people will get every misfortune they deserve. The video made me cry because the couples were so beautiful and full of love, yet because of small minded fucksticks, they are begging not to have their unions split.
I'm 31, my husband is 38. He is white, I am black. Just a few years before he was born, our marriage would have been illegal in a lot of states. That wasn't right and neither is this. There should be no question of gay people's ability to marry. I'm not talking bullshit civil unions/ partnerships, but full-on marriage. Banning marriage licenses for gay people makes as much sense as banning driving licenses for gay people.
One of the crap-ass arguments the fundies use regarding gay people is that the unions don't last. I watched some of those videos and at least 2 of the couples have been married longer than I have been on the planet, and scores had been together for 15+ years. How long did Britney's marriages last? Marriage is so sacred that one can get married for $20 by an Elvis impersonator in a drive-in ceremony.
Lastly, I am willing to bet my paycheck that a lot of the kids that were begging for their parents not to be split up were adopted, and I saw plenty of interracial adoptions there. Seems to me that the more gay people that marry and decide to have children, there will be fewer kids in the system. I wish you the best PJ and all others who are denied this basic human right.
I hope that within our lifetimes that prejudice and discrimination against gay people will be so unacceptable to our society that posts like yours will no longer be necessary.
Irregardless of the cost, we must continue to press on for equity and justice for all. If we don't accomplish it in our lifetimes, then perhaps future generations will look back at us as the compassionate and caring people who dared to stand up to hatred to embrace the common humanity that binds us all together.
Nothing worthwhile is easy. But we must persist anyway.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
Will they say that Christians can't marry Jews? Or even *choke* Muslims..?
You may laugh, but I have a feeling this could only be the beginning..
"The line must be drawn here!!"
---Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, Star Trek:First Contact
..these peoples' personal lives. Love is love, and I fume when I think about how these religious f*cktards twist the Bible into saying something it doesn't, or using their other biased, unscientific horse shit to come up with reasons why two people of the same sex can't have this relationship.
Watching these clips just makes me want to scream. I'm hoping the courts will keep OUT of their lives, and that the morons that voted against gay marriage will open up their hearts and minds to what is right and just.
Why do they worry about this sort of stuff when there is so much more in this world to be concerned with???
Ken Starr is working hard to keep his secret as he attacks gays. Like Larry Craig didn't want to admit his real self Ken Starr is doing the same. Hitler hated Jews because he was Jewish. Ken knows in his heart he's gay but uses a front as most old timers to. Ken would feel much better if he just came out and take pride in the fact he's gay. Watching him on Barbara Walter's interview made it clear he was a gay man living in secret.
Our youngest boy has recently turned 16, and has been living with our best guy friends since last March. He's officially an apprentice on their Arabian ranch in NM, but truly is a member of their family now... sure, I miss him, but he has so much more he can accomplish there than he does here. I have some nice (to me) backyard Arabians, but they have Nationals qualifiers and my son is learning so much! And it isn't only about horses.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
between the initial thrust of the Nuremberg laws is astounding. Section 1 of the laws could be the legal equivalent of Proposition 8.
'1. Marriages between Jews and citizens of German or kindred blood are forbidden. Marriages concluded in defiance of this law are void, even if, for the purpose of evading this law, they were concluded abroad.
2. Proceedings for annulment may be initiated only by the Public Prosecutor.'
This should be frightening to EVERYONE. Singling out a portion of the population to lose civil rights, any portion, goes against the constitution directly -
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
How long until we get this overturned? Logic is logic, and law is law, even (maybe especially) when it's hard, adherence to these principals is what is supposed to set us apart. Anyone who supports this shameful circumventing of the law is doing more to destroy the US than Bin Laden could ever do. A bit extreme, but honest.
Those mofo hypocrites; family values indeed. They drink, lie, whore, divorce and many are self-hating homosexuals themselves. You can have any uneducated, alcoholic, toothless white trailer trash mary and just pump them out making more uneducated, alcoholic, toothless white trailer trash and that's ok with Repukes. Hell, more grist for the military machine anyway. But a loving gay couple wants to marry, or God forbid, adopt; hell no, that's against family values. What they're really afraid of is those children may grow up in a loving home get a good education and learn what lying sacks of shit Repukes really are.
Merry Christmas
...as the tolerance. They want everybody's kids to be like their parents... like THEM.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Make no mistake. They hate people gettin educated as well.
"The divorce between church and state ought to be absolute. It ought
to be absolute. It ought to be so absolute that no church property
anywhere, in any state, or in any nation, should be exempt from taxation, for if you exempt the church property of any church organization, to that extent you impose tax upon the whole community."
[US Pres. James A. Garfield, speech to Congress, June 22, 1874]
"The foolish and cruel notion that a wife is to obey her husband
has sent more women to the grave than to the courts for a divorce."
[Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays_]
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Pres. James A Garfield got shot.
much better than the anger that was seen at protests
you win with love
and polish his shoes.
Go on Kenny. You KNOW you want to.
me-oww!
The pope weighed in yesterday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7796663.stm
It seems a lot of bile is being expended on right-wing ideologues and TV evangelicals with funny haircuts. How about some hatred for the Catholic church?
This could be used as a proposition to divide people... the Catholics vs the Evangelicals. It's been done before. These people are so ass backwards or backwards asses.
Ass Backwards AND Backward Asses.
We need to put Catholic and religious rights up for ballot iniciatives. Pass or not at least the church bigots would get a taste of what it feels like to have their rights up for majority vote. Not that anyone is born Christian, Catholic or Mormon. No one is born a religious bigot they are taught to be one. The fastest way to a truly free America for all citizens is to overthrow organized religion in this country. A history professor once said to me, the more you understand the history of Christianity the more you come to understand why the Romans threw em to the lions.
The problem with Prop 8 is that it didn't go far enough. It should have included "No divorce for anyone, either heterosexual or gay". If the proponents of Prop 8 are so very concerned with raising children, then they would support "no divorce" because divorce is painful for children.
Logic never comes into he discussion with these sons of bitches.
How about a proposition that states that children cannot be raised in a religion until they reach their 18th birthday. Reason: children are forced into a religion by adults which could be considered a form of child abuse. (sarc off/)
You need to come up with another proposition that is divisive to the "main stream" so-called Christian community. That will put a stop to this nonsense.
Now that is an excellent idea!
We can only hope someone with the where with all reads your comment.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
You didn't connect this whole thing to the Clinton debacle more, since his actions here proves that he has problems with people's personal lives.
I think that Ken Starr and Karl Rove would make a great couple. They look so similar and have very similar behaviour and attitude.
I completely agree this is a scumbag move by conservatives BUT could it backfire on them? This will go to the courts where the rights of the minority tend to get more favorable treatment than when put to popular vote. Personally, I would think conservatives would want to avoid the courts and those dreaded "activist judges" at all costs, especially now that they've got what they wanted. Seems to me that their greed for more may be their undoing. If prop 8 makes it to the Supreme Court, they may lose it all. Just a thought.
Yes, For those non-gays who want a divorce, we have to pay $500+ in court fees alone. Only in America will they charge those who want to divorce divorce cheating spouses who abandon you, but forcibly divorce couples in love.
All in the name of preserving the 'sanctity of marriage'.
You think the repugs would take their hate blinders off long enough to see that there is actually money in Gay marriage and Gay divorce...
I'm going to bitch-slap that miserable peice of shit. You can quote me on that!
What an inappropriate ass hole Mr. Starr you are truly the worlds worst person!
Ain't that weird?
So, California is refusing to recognise them; what about other states?
Will the Californian marriages still be unrecognised in, say Mass. or New York?
it would serve the fucking religiousreich
the kind of justice they deserve if the supreme
court of calif. decreed that all marriages including
straight marriages were void.
then let the right deal with some very angry
normalmoronic religiousreichcouples to have to sue to get their marriage reinstated
and then denied.
of marriage to my wonderful wife, it breaks my heart to see these photos of people who feel the same way about each other as we do, and who have been fortunate enough to find each other, as we did, and who finally were allowed to marry, and yet who are now told by the narrow minded bigots that their marriages should be disallowed. Don't we have enough real problems to deal with, without having to make it impossible for people who love each other to be fully recognized by society as legally joined couples? What ever happened to "God is Love?"
There is something wrong with the right wing idiots who can't envision anyone other than their white bread friends experiencing love and caring. Come to think of it . . . most of them have no idea what a real relationship is like, that doesn't depend on either Jesus or vodka or both.
If Starr and ilk try this, it will eventually be overturned, as will Prop 8, as unConstitutional. Prop 8 violates several provisions of the US Constitution, including equal rights provisions and - as regards forced divorce - the prohibition against bills of attainder. Also, no state can craft any law that violates any protections and rights granted by the Constitution.
I'm betting that by the time the last challenges have been heard in the Supreme Court, even with the ultra-conservative majority, that gay marraige will be deemed legal in all 50 states and territories. If that doesn't happen, the Constitution truly will be just a meaningless piece of paper.
Starr is just going to end up looking more the idiot neandrethal than he already appears.
We need a court with jurisdiction to overturn it. Which means it is out of the hands of the state supreme court. Ripping apart families is certainly a hell of a lot of legal standing for the case going forward, but it would have been there regardless.
You can't void them but you can not recognize them. They would be legally married but the state of California would not recognize it, just as we wouldn't recognize a marriage from MA. If and when gay marriage is relegalized (there's a sound constitutional argument and near majority of voters to make it a matter of time) those marriages go back on the books without needing new marriage licenses. -- Why anybody suspected it was different than the obvious legal ramifications escapes me.
Just come to Canada. We're in better economic shape, we still have a functioning democracy, we have universal healthcare and we have marginally adequate gun control.
You can be a citizen three years after getting off the plane.
You'll love it, really.
Look at it this way: The US does not deserve you. And you really don't want to wait around to see what they do to you next. What's it going to take? Kristallnacht?
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