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In yet another installment of the Breitbart sagas, a bit of controversy has erupted over the veracity of two videos posted on BigGovernment's site under the careful editorial eye of Dana Loesch, et al. They claim that two university professors are indoctrinating young, impressionable college students with commie union thug tactics. And of course, they have the video to prove it, or so they say.

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Here is the first of two videos posted by Breitbart on YouTube and then posted to BigGovernment.com with this headline: "Thuggery 101: Union Official, Professor Teach College Course in Violent Union Tactics". (The original video was pulled from YouTube but I was able to capture it from another site and repost it here)

Neither video credits any outside party, both are posted on YouTube under the name Breitbart, and posted to BigGovernment.com by "Publius", the ubiquitous-yet-anonymous right-wing crusader who always seems to unearth videos with very interesting edits, which often omit footage or rearrange the actual video to give an appearance that the speaker is saying the opposite of what was actually said.

I have obtained the unedited versions of the video they used to make their claims of "thuggery" being taught at the university level and posted them below. As you will see from the transcripts and actual clips, some very creative editing took place.

Beginning with the first cut [:44 to 1:33] which appears to depict Giljum calling for union violence where warranted. Here is the edited version in transcript form:

GILJUM: And I think if you look at labor's history over the years, you'll find that we've had a very violent history with violent protests and certain instances strategically played out for certain purposes that industrial sabotage doesn't have its place. I think it certainly does, but as far as -- you know, and I can't really honestly that I've never wished, that I've never been in a position where I've never wished harm on somebody -- inflicting pain and suffering on some people --

[video breaks to UMKC counterpart at 1:25 and unidentified voice says "We're all human"]

[cut to Judy Ancel]

ANCEL: Violence is a tactic. And it's to be -- it's to be used when it's appropriate, the appropriate tactic.

Here's the unedited version of Giljum:

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Transcript of unedited video. Parts in bold are missing from Breitbart's posted video:

I tend to agree with you, because if you look at labor's history over the years, you'll find that we have a very violent history, with violent protests reaction to suppression. Okay? But as time has changed, the tactics have changed or the need for those have changed. Okay.

Now, that's not to say that in certain instances, uh, strategically played out for certain purposes that industrial sabotage doesn't have its place. I think it certainly does. But as far as -- you know, I can't really honestly say that I've never wished -- have never been in a position where I have wished real harm on somebody or um...uh...inflicted any pain and suffering on some people that

[cut away] STUDENT, off camera: We're all human

GILJUM: You know, didn't ask for it but it certainly has its place. It certainly makes you feel a helluva lot better sometimes but beyond that, I'm not sure that as a tactic today violence or reaction to the violence we had back then would be called for here. I think it would do more harm than good.

Ancel is not even a part of the discussion during this full unedited clip with the single exception of the visual cutaway to her during the student voiceover. Here is her unedited video:

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Here is the full unedited transcript version of Ancel's remark with sections in bold which were omitted from the Breitbart version:

ANCEL: The one guy in the film, one of the guys who had been one of the young, um, SNCC types, said

[crosstalk]

-- he represented the kind of thinking that went into this student on the coordinating committee and then later probably -- well, coinciding with the Black Panthers. You know, he said violence is a tactic and it's to be used when it's appropriate, when it's an appropriate tactic. Whether -- they never come back to him to ask him what he thought of the window-smashing in that march or whether or not that was done by them or others or provocateurs. We don't know that.

If those unedited remarks are read as they stand, even without surrounding context, it's clear the Breitbart video was edited to make it appear that Giljum and Ancel said the exact opposite of what they actually did say.

Shorter Breitbart version: Giljum and Ancel are calling for violent responses as appropriate tactics.

True version: Giljum believes violent responses would do more harm than good in today's society, and Ancel is not commenting on the tactic, but on someone else's tactics in a historical context.

Classic Breitbarting in this first video. The rest of it has students quoting or appearing to say things which seem to be threats against capitalism, banks and our current system. Because it is against university privacy policies to show students, I will not be posting video to prove or disprove what they said. However, you are certainly free to draw your own conclusion from the blatant video edits shown here as to whether they are in or out of context.

Judy Ancel has posted a statement, reproduced here, where she offers some context along with vigorous objections to Breitbart's rearrangement of the video feed of the teleconference.

Breitbart is a master of taking quotes out of context, deletion of what doesn’t serve his purpose, and remixing to achieve totally different meaning. For example he has me saying:

o Breitbart’s version: “Violence is a tactic and it’s to be used when it’s the appropriate tactic.”

o The real version: After students had watched a film on the 1968 Memphis Sanitation Workers’ Strike and the assassination of Martin Luther King, they were discussing nonviolence. I said, “One guy in the film. . . said ‘violence is a tactic, and it’s to be used when it’s the appropriate tactic.’ . . . “ The class proceeded to discuss and debate this.

Thus Mr. Breitbart’s editing has literally put words in my mouth that were not mine, and they never were mine.

It's almost a certainty that Andrew Breitbart or his proxies will claim that they didn't have the entire video at their disposal, that they were only given the edited version. Lest you believe that, let me point you to evidence which says otherwise. First, they have promised to provide much more from the 30 hours of video in their possession, which is the length of this course. Second, there is this declaration from the BigGovernment website in response to an editorial on the topic:

“Breitbart’s way?” I guess Shelly just discovered the webernetz and is unaware that Breitbart doesn’t actually edit or produce videos; he serves as a publisher and aggregate, period. In super-layman’s terms that even reporters at the Kansas City Star can understand, this means that other people make the videos and then bring them to Andrew Breitbart who then decides if he wants to publish them on one of his websites. Shelly’s suggestion that he does edit these videos is a lie.

The thought never occurs to Purely Partisan Shelly that the professors in the videos actually said the things they are saying.

If I'm reading that correctly, people bring video to the Breitbart editors (either Breitbart himself or his designated proxies in the form of Dana Loesch et al), who then decide whether to publish them. While denying any editorial responsibility on Breitbart's part, this author then proceeds to say that yes, the professors actually said the things on the video.

Well, no argument at the most superficial level. They did say those words. The problem is, they also said more, and even with the few words Breitbart chose to use, they were rearranged in a way that distorted what they said and the context in which they said it. Loesch, anticipating the possibility they might be held to account for their distortions, has launched a pre-emptive strike:

She takes exception to the portion of the post in which I refer to the Shirley Sherrod video as “doctored.”

“Since when is a video excerpt identical to the full video ‘doctored?‘“Loesch asks. Point taken. I should have referred to the Sherrod video as “deceptively edited.”

Loesch also complains: “Your suggestion that Breitbart himself edited this is false and defamatory and I seek an immediate correction. This series, as with the ACORN tapes and Sherrod video, was presented to him and he acted as an aggregate.

So, to be clear, Loesch et al are disclaiming any responsibility for featuring video which is clearly edited to convey a message which is exactly opposite of that which the speaker intended. If they intend to do this, then it should also be clearly understood that there is absolutely no pretense of journalism taking place on those sites and anything posted there should not be taken seriously or given any weight whatsoever, now or ever.

Further, as to Loesch's question about a video excerpt which is identical to the full video, that excuse won't fly in this case, because excerpts were not just clipped. They were rearranged. I have italicized the cut in the first clip which would make no sense grammatically until you see where the actual words fit into the full version. So my question for Dana Loesch is this: Since when is an outfit claiming to be journalists exempt from the responsibility for posting and promoting doctored videos?

Since the Breitbart folks claim to have the full 30 hours of video, why haven't they published this one in its original unaltered form as I have here to make crystal-clear what the speaker's intent was?

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Ancel: We'll see. Okay, there was another comment there?

Giljum: Well, the only comment I wanted to make was picking up on the issue of violence and people lashing out, because um, certainly I can't say that I've never done that.

Ancel: oh, Don!

Giljum: -- but it's something that I've learned over time to temper very well and avoid it, and actually look upon it as being counterproductive because I think what it does -- it does -- it legitimatizes in my view the presses um, their actions or their impressions, okay? Of the worker, and of the poor, and of the, you know, whatever the issue might be.

It gives credence to their argument that these people need to be controlled. And, you don't want to do that, okay? [unintelligible] There's no need, there's no excuse -- they don't need an excuse -- to lash out at workers or anything else, but...when you do something like that it does give some legitimacy to their action then and you just want to strip all that away.

Not really the words of a guy calling for thuggery and violence is it? In fact, it seems to me that he is advising students NOT to use violent means to resist power, because it actually gives power to the standard stereotypes and paints resistors with a bold, black mark.

As it happens, Don Giljum was due to retire on May 1st from his responsibilities with the union and his employer. Because Breitbart has smeared his reputation and distorted his words, he was pressured to resign his union positions now, which he has done. Granted, it's only a 3-day difference, but there is a material difference between resigning and retiring, not only in the eyes of the public but in the eyes of his peers.

United Association for Labor Education member Steven Ashby:

UALE member Steven Ashby of the University of Illinois said, “It’s no coincidence this attack comes in the wake of the biggest workers’ upsurge in 30 years, in Wisconsin.”

The goal of labor education programs, Ashby said, “is to educate and assist workers to build stronger unions. The right wing would like all labor studies programs wiped out because they want all unions wiped out.

Brietbart is more than happy to help them with that, but by now, the rest of us should know better.

Update: Insurgent Visuals, the purveyor of these videos, is now doubling down and defending themselves while failing to note that the actual unedited clips do not sequentially play as they characterize them. In other words, they'll cop to editing but only in sequence, when in fact, they overlaid two distinctly different clips with remarks made at two distinctly different times on each other.

Further, they ask why it is that the university hasn't released the full video to the public without mentioning the privacy issues with regard to students' comments and identities. If, as they claim, the video is available to download via the university system, and that is how they obtained it, and if they have copies of the full video, why haven't they released the full versions to support their accusations?

Update 2: Media Matters has now picked this up too.

Update 3: Big Government has now issued their first correction, where they 'inadvertently forgot' to say they left out the entire middle (with the real meaning) of Giljum's quote.

Also, Media Matters points out that for all Breitbart's bluster over free speech, he shows himself as the hypocrite we know he is. He is suppressing free speech in because in his world, only Tea Partiers have the right to it. The rest of us can live under their totalitarian regime for all he cares.

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mea faulta's picture

When the people have had enough, and our patience is seemingly without limits, of course there will be violence- perpetrated on peaceful demonstrators or protestors by the thugs hired by the rich.

This is the story of labor in the post-industrial world. Kind of sad that most people are so ignorant of their own history that Andy the bitch can frame strikes and labor protests as breaking news for the right and not be ignored or laughed at.

Cthulhu's picture

See the people speaking out against West and his support of the Ryan plan being dragged out of the town halls by the cops?

Where we these same cops when the Teabaggers were disrupting and offering violent rhetoric at the Democratic town halls? No where to be seen.


"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard

hackenbush's picture

Reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons, where producers for "Rock Bottom" edit together a string of words to produce a clip which conveyed their point (with a humorous jumping clock in the background).

Life imitating "The Simpsons", again?

Andy K's picture

ANCEL: The one guy in the film, one of the guys who had been one of the young, um, snake types, said

That should be SNCC types- Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee.

karoli's picture

It was very hard to hear some of it...

Andy K's picture

I thought you got the transcription elsewhere. Not meant to embarrass...

karoli's picture

...and there will be more.

AIO's picture

These right wing liars are really afraid of the Lefts uprising over the last few months; that's one reason that Breitbart, O'Keefe and these other tools are getting out these half cocked vids. against unions.


Harry Chapin wants you.

AIO's picture

My money says that Hannity will play the Breitbart footage on an endless loop.


Harry Chapin wants you.

Coyote Bongwater's picture

On the subject of the justifiability of violence: the general rule of thumb is that, if you have to ask yourself whether or not it is justified in the current situation, it is not justified. Violence should be an absolute last resort, to be used only once literally all other alternatives have failed and to be immediately abandoned once the stated goals have been achieved.

On the subject of Breitbart: The man and his associates are, quite simply, complete fucking bastards. This is beyond heinous. Journalism used to mean something, didn't it? Not too long ago, either. We used to hold journalists to a higher standard, we used to expect some degree of integrity and impartiality from them. This is just...beyond appalling. But - and here's the truly sad part - appalling though it may be, it's not surprising in the least.

Cthulhu's picture

What Breitbart does is in no way to be considered "Journalism", nor referred to as such. What he produces is propaganda, in the best Nazi traditions (Go fuck yourself, Godwin), and this should be pointed out at every opportunity.


"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard

ReelBusy's picture

well said.

Andy K's picture

How many cocktails will Breitbart consume before appearing on Maher's show tonight? I'm going with seven.

yakfitguy's picture

I can't help but feeling Maher's going to rip him a new A-hole tonight. Wishful thinking perhaps.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

ReelBusy's picture

but he's not a good "prosecutor".

And the way Breitbart follows the Orwell Playbook on TV looks good after he edits it to show what he wants.

Dink's picture

When you have nothing for a PLATFORM.....

The ONLY thing you can do is --> LIE and DISTORT the truth....

I feel bad for them.... Maybe somebody will get them some medication...

Andy K's picture

...this is fucking shameful. Or it should be, but Breitbart and his crew seem to have no sense of shame.

ReelBusy's picture

anything Breitbart publishes should be treated like one of those magic pictures that you need to stare at for a minute to see the hidden image/truth.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Time for Dylan RATigan to get Breitfart back on to lick his asshole.

Taarak's picture

Tactics such as this are frequently defended with “the ends justify the means”. Breitbart obviously believes this to be true, and so will use any means to achieve his end.

What is his end? What does he hope to achieve through these lies and deceits? What will he accomplish with the willful slander and destruction of innocent individuals? Is it justified? Can it ever be?

Brietbart’s end is also obvious. He wants power. He wants it selfishly, and for no other reason. The object of power is power.

For this end there is no justification. There are no means that can be discarded for this purpose. Debate, if you will, whether means can ever be justified by the end goal. In this case – it is pure evil.

derekthered's picture

i don't see the problem here.

karoli's picture

You don't see the problem with taking comments out of context and sequence and cobbling them together to play a narrative that never existed?

derekthered's picture

is an idiot, so what. here is what i do have a problem with.

A more militarized CIA for a more militarized America

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_green...

President Obama speaks on Manning and the rule of law

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_green...

"Protesters yesterday interrupted President Obama's speech at a $5,000/ticket San Francisco fundraiser to demand improved treatment for Bradley Manning. After the speech, one of the protesters, Logan Price, approached Obama and questioned him. Obama's responses are revealing on multiple levels. First, Obama said this when justifying Manning's treatment (video and transcript are here):

" We're a nation of laws. We don't let individuals make their own decisions about how the laws operate. He broke the law."

The impropriety of Obama's public pre-trial declaration of Manning's guilt ("He broke the law") is both gross and manifest. How can Manning possibly expect to receive a fair hearing from military officers when their Commander-in-Chief has already decreed his guilt?"

Nobel peace drones

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_green...

what i do have a problem with is the supposed "left" running like scared rabbits whenever anyone mentions socialism, to me Breitbarts "smear" is more like a badge of honor.

i am not a university educated professional, i know people who were killed in wars, killed on the street, so when andy "smears"' these professors, it just breaks my little heart. likewise when someone questions our emperors patrimony, so sad, how many kids in this country don't even know who their father is?

Deadly Drone Strike by U.S. May Fuel Anger in Pakistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/23/world/asia/...

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An American drone attack killed 23 people in North Waziristan on Friday, Pakistani military officials said, in a strike against militants that appeared to signify unyielding pressure by the United States on Pakistan’s military amid increasing opposition to such strikes.

Glenn Greenwald

"When I saw that, I was going to ask how the NYT could possibly know that the people whose lives the U.S. just ended were "militants," but then I read further in the article and it said this: "A government official in North Waziristan told Pakistani reporters that five children and four women were among the 23 who were killed." So at least 9 of the 23 people we killed -- at least -- were presumably not "militants" at all, but rather innocent civilians (contrast how the NYT characterizes Libya’s attacks in its headlines: "Qaddafi Troops Fire Cluster Bombs Into Civilian Areas").

as far as feeling sorry for tenured university professors who are knocking down $125 grand a year? none here, far as i am concerned they need to work for their money, i have since i was 13 years old.

dear karoli, you do have such a caring spirit, i see that you do, perhaps i should just shut up.

i daresay that any civilization that i may have acquired has been leeched out of me in 58 years of living in this country. as a little experiment that would be interesting, we could make a trip down to 13th and cleveland in kcmo about midnight on a saturday and see if we can find anybody who gives a flip if andrew breitbart slimed some prof. at umkc, but we best be rolling heavy.

...will set about solving those problems.

Of course they will.

derekthered's picture

have already made up their minds, as have most people here.

i apologize for being so harsh. thing is, whenever the "s" word is trotted out, "liberals" run for the hills.

now the video is pulled by you tube. i have been doing some surfing, here is an attack on CPUSA

http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/2011/0...

"The University of Missouri-St. Louis told Giljum he will not be rehired next semester."

http://biggovernment.com/insurgentvisuals/201...

here is where breitbart presents his side, he is putting forth red scare tactics, he claims giljum is a red, good for giljum. in this country advocating violence can turn you into a targeted individual real quick, isn't this the real question? when is violence is justified and when is it not?

westlafadeaway's picture

I wouldn't personally waste my time but if anyone feels like throwing a little peaceful protest his way he's at the LA Times Festival of Books tomorrow at USC.

Dana's picture

And right wingers never talk about revolution, or overthrowing the government. Listen to the way some of the bat shit crazy Tea Tard republicans talk to their supporters at rallies. Sarah Palin with the cross hairs on a map, Sharron Angle with her "second amendment remedy" talk, Michele Bachmann with her "I want Minnesota voters armed and dangerous" shit. Yeah, union people have had to resort to violence at one time or another, especially when politicians send in goons and cops to try and bash their heads in. How about Scott Walker admitting on that prank call that he considered bringing in hired 'trouble makers' to make Wisconsin union protesters look bad.

Breitbart is a vile piece of shit and a fucking liar.


Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds--Bob Marley

kronik's picture

Breitbart is nothing more than a scammer and the fact that the tea-party holds him in such high regard says a lot about the integrity of the tea-party.

Handsome Pete's picture

Here's what Dana Loesch wrote.

"Breitbart himself edited this...as with the ACORN tapes and Sherrod video."

And she can't deny she didn't actually write those words, in that order.

See what you can do with their logic?

karoli's picture

Let's roll the presses on that one, shall we?

Bitter Bud Hussein's picture

next fall - the theme covers the history of the labor movement in the US as well as how the media paints labor issues today. Not from the business side, mind you... I'll definitely find a way to work this post and its examples into a lecture. Thanks!

Part of me hopes to be Breitbarted in this way - I'd love to get the chance to take this clown on - but I'm not a big fish, I guess.


Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.

Harleywood's picture

This idiot has been attacking me on my twitter account all day today.. @BeatleDaily ..I called him out and his minions have been at me all day

karoli's picture

Lots of bots to harass and intimidate.

nicole.473's picture

It's how they roll!

Happened to me last week with that jerk, Erick Erickson and his bots.

Sven Ortmann's picture

Judging by how they speak, that university should set higher entry standards for professors. They don't sound like intellectuals at all.

karoli's picture

They claim to be people who have studied and understand the labor movement.

nicole.473's picture

Thank you, karoli.

That cretin should be driven out of the country.

sofla's picture

When is somebody going to sue that motherfucker into oblivion?

nicole.473's picture

Shirley Sherrod is suing him. I dearly hope she wins everything he owns.

Whitehouse's picture

the video which started this thread has been erased from their servers. Good for them, though now (never seen it) I miss this certain part of the discussion.

rtb1961's picture

It is becoming obvious that the smears are becoming more and more extreme. Poor old Budgeybart has become desperate, his hopes of becoming another multi-millionaire Beck/Limbaugh and going up in bull shit fed flames.
From being the investigator, he has now crawled away to claiming to be just a non-editorial aggregator of other peoples content, making him nothing.
He is now a failed right wing 'News Commentator' of fabricated news, his stories are becoming less and less believable and more and more of a joke. The all new, all singing and dancing Budgeybart show, full of insane right wing conspiracies, looney tunes theories and cut, paste, edit and distort content that provides the gullible right the self righteous religious escape from reality they crave.

Matt Osborne's picture

we would know what it is and treat it accordingly. The long pattern of dishonesty has not changed. The name "Breitbart" must become a watchword for FAKE.

ski's picture

...to do video against Kris F. Kobach when he was allowed to teach law at UMKC? Oh, that's right.

Full disclosure: I am a UMKC alum. And while I never met Professor Ancel, I am appalled that Breitbart would do that to a member of the UMKC family (or, for that matter, the whole University of Missouri System, of which UMSL is also a part).

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