John Boehner: 'Job Creators Are Essentially On Strike'
Definitions are important to the context of this segment of John Boehner's economy speech Thursday, so here they are:
- Job Creators = Corporate interests. If you were to take the member list for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, top Republican donors, and oil interests in this country, that would more or less be who John Boehner's "job creators" are.
- "On Strike" = holding their breath (and assets) until they turn blue and get their way. It is antithetical to assume any relationship between worker strikes and the kind of strike Boehner is referring to in his speech. Workers strike because they are at a disadvantage against corporate interests and can only withhold labor as a way to expand their rights and their voice. The Boehner brand of "strike" is where already-powerful actors choose to withhold assets and investment in the economy in order to gain even more power than they already have, at the expense of workers and the health of the country. It's an unpatriotic, ugly sort of strike.
Now that the nomenclature is defined, I think it's safe to say that John Boehner just admitted that corporate interests, in collusion with the Republican party, are intentionally sabotaging the United States economy in order to gain even more political power and strip everyone else of theirs.
For some context, here's a snippet from the transcript:
"They've been undercut by a government that favors crony capitalism and businesses deemed 'too big to fail,' over the small banks and small businesses that make our economy go.
"They've been antagonized by a government that favors bureaucrats over market-based solutions.
"They've been demoralized by a government that causes despair when we need it to provide reassurance and inspire confidence.
"My worry is that even after all of this, much of the talk in Washington right now is basically about more of the same. More initiatives that seem to have more to do with the next election than the next generation. . .initiatives that seem to be more about micromanaging economic decisions than liberating them.
"I think the American people are worried about this too.
"I can tell you the American people -- private-sector job creators in particular --- are rattled by what they've seen out of this town over the last few years.
"My worry is that for American job creators, all the uncertainty is turning to fear that this toxic environment for job creation is a permanent state.
"Job creators in America are essentially on strike.
Isn't it bizarre to have Boehner equate "the American people" with "private-sector job creators"?
The job creators are the people who spend money on products and services offered by those private-sector businesses. If the people have no money, they won't be spending any. This is Economics 101. It's incredibly cynical, but not surprising, for John Boehner to endorse the concept of a strike provided that the outcome is even more power consolidated in the hands of a few.
Perhaps he should have simply said "Oligarchy!" and walked off stage. It would have been more honest.
They're all greedy and they're all lying.
me-oww!
Perhaps it's time to send in the strike breakers.
They're not on strike. they just have no reason to provide products and services when the middle class has no money to buy things, in turn because they have no jobs. Boehner, where are the jobs, you lazy slob. raise the freekin taxes on the rich so the government has the capital to create jobs. Screw you're failed ideology to hell.
You are the mob, Boehner.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Can we get a court injunction to force them to go back to work?
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I agree totally Karoli - nice Article.
The Republican party is intentionally sabotaging the United States economy in order to gain even more political power, and strip everyone else of theirs. They are mobsters. The media are accessories. The DOJ is impotent against the corporate and political elites. Or is the DOJ also an accessory?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Far-right economic policies, weakening labor unions and cutting government spending have never increased the number of private-sector, middle class jobs, no reason to think that will be any different this time around.
If the 'job creators' are 'on strike' shouldn't the GOP be pushing to bust their unions and take their collective bargaining rights? Maybe lock a few of them up-- the deadbeats.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I don't think Boehner understands irony. Remember, he wanted to be a salesman when he grew up. He got his wish.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
It's the plot of "Atlas Shrugged."
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If you count back to when we used to ride around on dinosaurs, three years isn't so long.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I was just thinking the same thing.
they're all somewhere in Colorado...
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
John Boehner: 'Job Creators Are Essentially On Strike.' Yeah, and they have been for over ten fucking years, you asshole. God, I hate that miserable prick. Son of a bitch should be forced to wear a jacket like a NASCAR driver so we would know who owns the bastard.
I don't think he told them to go on strike! People and Corporations have the right to take any legal means to avoid paying taxes. I have many Silver dollars stashed in various places. It's my property. I am allowed to take it off shore, or bury it in my yard for safe keeping. I don't have to worry about it losing value due to inflation, in fact inflation has no effect on the "value" of my money.
to EVADE Taxes ??? Some logic, go live in Somalia.
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
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People invest in municipal bonds for tax benefits, and U.S. savings bonds for the same reason.
I have one fellow who is retired, and as soon as his income for the year reaches a certain amount he takes the rest of the year off. Avoiding a higher tax bracket.
Do you have a problem with any of these ways of avoiding paying more taxes?
Are you dependent on taxes by others for your living?
I have many Silver dollars
Did you buy them with tax-paid dollars? If so, hide 'em wherever you please. They are yours.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
South Korea Edwin ?
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No caps lock? Hmmmmm
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
have to get it in their head - how fncked they are ...
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no thanks.
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
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All the more reason to break their union. They do it to us, they've done it to us, and they have regulated the hell out of any attempts to organize a union. So give them the same treatment they've given us. They have proved that they deserve no better.
While I agree it's about power, and also about crashing the global economy so they can pick up the pieces at firesale prices, I think there's another factor at work here.
Why "invest in America" when the Big Money is to be made Gaming The System?
I think that's a big part of the reason the Big Banks & Corporations are sitting on the sidelines.
Successful investing leads to relatively slow returns compared to Gaming The System.
Gaming The System - manipulating commodities futures, downsizing (layoffs), outsourcing jobs, banking offshore, merging and acquisitions, credit default swaps, computer-assisted trading that shuttles money in and out at the speed of light, etc.
Does anyone "invest" any more - put money in a venture and stick with it for years?
Why invest when there's tons more to be made in the Casino?
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Republicans are betting against America. They are betting against Americans. they really are mobsters - the enemy within.
I understand why republicans are betting against America.
But the media is betting against America too, as is the DOJ when they refuse to touch the corporate and political elite. Why? Is the media counting on emerging economies elsewhere entirely now, and letting America go to seed? And the DOJ, are they resigned to their impotence, or is there something even more sinister there?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Unnoticed by most Americans, the formerly "American" corporations have been plundering other economies all over the planet for over a century, and the "American consumer" has been the unwitting beneficiary of that pillage.
But now it's the US they're pillaging.
They're no longer "American" corporations, they've "gone global" - bank offshore, hire offshore, and own real estate all around the world.
What do they need us for anymore?
Except, of course, to pillage our retirement accounts, our infrastructure, etc, etc.
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Yes, that's for sure. I understand why the corporations, and their tools, the politicians like Boehner, are selling America and Americans out. You captured it nicely.
But what of the media? Could it be that they don't need us anymore either? When their sponsors can't sell to us, the 99%ers anymore because we can't or won't buy things, won't the MSM lose those sponsors? Or do they have a plan? Can they just move their companies to serve overseas too? Perhaps they feel immune to the destruction of the middle class consumer.
And the DOJ - what is making them so impotent against the corporate and political elite? Are they in collusion somehow, or are they under the thumb of the MIC/CIA/FBI, or something?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
The media are owned by the major corporations; they have no need to stand on their own financially.
But since the major role of our media is after all entertainment, not information, they do just fine financially.
As a market there's still plenty of consumption in the US (though not for a healthy economy). The upper 20-25% are still doing just fine, and everyone with any income has to buy some things.
So the media have no incentive to do anything other than sell corporate products without criticizing the corporations.
The last two times I've watched Rachel Maddow on the MSNBC website I've had to watch an Exxon-Mobil ad assuring me the US has plenty of natural gas reserves that will keep us independent for well into the next century and Exxon-Mobil's crack team of engineers know exactly how to extract it safely .. Rachel Maddow sponsored by Fracking!!!!!!!
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Oh ya. I'd forgotten that not only is the media paid for by advertising by major corporations, they are also owned by the five or six most powerful of corporations that exist. The media is basically the propaganda wing of these major corporations - a detriment to society. I would be ashamed to work for any one of the corporate media outlets right now, with the exception perhaps of three or four MSNBC programs. Much better to work for a real media outlet like an independent newspaper or something along those lines. CNN or FOX - forget about it - couldn't live with myself.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Mainstream media don't really have to be profitable, since they are owned by major corporations making money hand over fist. It's all just part of the advertising budget.
Check to see how many donated money to their campaigns.
"You can't be a lawyer, unless you represent a bank!"
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton being best friends with the Walmart owner ...
thus allowing the NAFTA monster to spawn, in hope that it will fill the black hole in Walmart's owner heart, what was his name ...
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Unfortunately they are not the only ones doing the plundering! The Congress works for the Corporations who are plundering the people. The debtors are the servants of the lenders, and I and my wife were warned to get out of dollars 30 days before 9/11/01 My wife worked for a Bank in St. Petersburg Russia. We didn't know what would happen, but they believed that the dollar would lose half it's value compared to the Ruble. At least for a short time. I think a lot of people made money on that deal.
Then there are all the people who can work, but would rather milk all the social welfare programs from the insurance companies to the individuals who'd rather collect whatever check they get for staying at home.
90% of the guys I hire can't speak good English, and they make minimum $10 per hour, some of them $15. Not a day here or there 5 of them have been working for over 2 years. Americans will work for a few days, then quit. Bitching and moaning the whole time.
I see Atlas shrugging, and nobody cares. Didn't the President say there are thousands of unsafe bridges? He's eliminating tax benefits for buying municipal bonds so the various cities will have to borrow money from the Federal government. Those construction jobs will only go to the 20% of the work force that is unionized. So less work will get done at greater, and greater expense.
, just so you can GRASP how powerless you are ...
P.S. not the horror-bullsh1t one of 2010.
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They need our military to protect all of those american jobs overseas.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
"School of Americas" ?
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
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Republicans for Voldemort.
People with 401k plans. Because that's what their overlords tell them to do.
... 80% of the Country was OWNED by the FATCATS and the STOCK MARKET DESTROYED the Country !!!
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
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But I think most 401K investment is in mutual funds, not in specific companies.
True, it IS money that isn't going into the Casino but into the companies in the mutual fund.
But it's still not investing; it's kind of a junior version of playing the casino.
It isn't the same as a single big investor who picks a single company that makes something and puts a large chunk of capital into that company (so it produces more of that something, and employs more people) and keeps that capital in the company into perpetuity, happy to collect the earnings.
That's what I mean by "really investing" .. and it's just not happening ..
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Silver dollars, better than paper assets!
My silver dollars were stolen. What now?
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
... get prepared to "WEATHER" another RECESSION. Soon "the system" will start living off your ass.
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
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Republicans for Voldemort.
why dont all those poor fucking job creators leave the country then? fuck em. if it wasnt for the u.s. government their money would all be worthless.
warren mosler for president
Good Idea. Kick them all the way to China. that's where they want to be anyway.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
For your information, money becomes worth less because of government!, not the other way around.
Name one business that's "gone Galt" like this. Just one.
If we had a functioning press, someone would have asked this.
Good question. Maybe an honest reporter will ask him exactly that. Which corporations are 'on strike', Mr. Boehner?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Just a guess;)
It drives me absolutely batshit that these assholes like John Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Perry and the rest spend all of their time talking about the evils of government. And yet, where have those sons of bitches been all of their lives? Not in the private sector.
This is to be expected. They are not operating in good faith. They are cons, shills, and corporate tools. They're wrenched excuses for human beings. They are a mob. Where better to attack the government they hate than from within. What drives me batshit is that everyone doesn't vote them out, all the way to China.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Because there are soooooo many stupid people. Soooooo many it is unbelievable.
job creators are on strike also suggests that they are some form of organized labor and the GOP HATES organized labor. It would behove Boehner, then, to condemn their activities as anti-American. I mean, that IS when the GOP thinks of workers organizing. Come on, John! Stand up for America- denounce the union of "job creators" as it truly is in the eyes of the GOTP--a bunch of socialists who are out to ruin America!
If somebody will make more money by hiring somebody they will hire somebody. There is nobody with an oz. of brains who would not hire somebody if that hire would make them more money. The problem is there is no demand for more stuff so people do not hire more people to make/sell/account for/supervise etc etc. It is all about unemployment.
Why should I hire somebody, if it will cost me more in taxes, and regulations than I am likely to make in profit? If I can make more on my money by keeping it in the bank. Why should I risk it?
Not only should you not hire anyone, you should seriously rethink your business plan/model.
says that the "job creators" are sitting on their money because they don't know what to expect. So let's put them out of their misery and raise their taxes to a level that will be on par with the middle class. Then we make that tax rate permanent. THEN they will sure about their taxes. Then we start to tax products made by American companies overseas to a level that it would be cheaper for them to make their products here. That should settle their little minds.
Duh!!!! The corporate income tax is around 50%, about 25% higher than the middle class.
Facts? Link? Proof?
Nice try. See ya later troll.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Then how come GE paid $0.00 in taxes? Did GE make no money last year?
My daughter paid more than that the year she washed old peoples butts for a living.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Actually, I think they got $13,000,000,000 from the government in corporate welfare refunds.
Maybe if we had given them $31,000,000,000 instead, they would have created a couple of hundred private sector jobs.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
... "footprint" not according to "how many people you are" - that's Rich people's (SNOB) logic ! When you go to the store you don't pay according to how many people you have with you - you PAY taxes according to how much the TOTAL of your purchase is ! aka "footprint"
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.
If you pay taxes in Canada on your income you made in Canada, should you also pay taxes in the U.S. on the same income?
by SUCKING money off the commodities that we DEPEND on.
That is a SECONDARY HIDDEN Tax ... that nobody thinks about.
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_tax_in...
80% of corporations paid no income taxes last year you right wing pez dispenser of bullshit.
They are sitting on the largest profits ever - in the entire history of corporate america; and they are still shipping jobs overseas.
If only we could get them to have their idiot voters follow them to China and get the hell out of here.
God are you people fraking clueless.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
100% of Corporations passed the cost of the taxes to their customers.
Not if they want customers they don't.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Ever since the Queen Elizabeth I on 31 December 1600 chartered the East India Trading Company a true Multi-National Corporation.
The East India Company hired George Washington, and raised the Continental Army, At the end of the Revolution they chartered another corporation known as the United States, keeping the judicial system they set up from colonial days in order to protect their monopoly.
Don't like it?, you can always start a revolution;), but I must inform you revolutions are almost never won! They are stolen, just as the American Revolution was:) Western / American civilization is in the last stages of decay, as Rome was. Another civilization will build on the ruins of this one. Will it be China?, or Russia? China is my bet, but Russia has greater natural resources, and so is richer. Russia would be the stronger of the two, combining elements of Eastern, and Western Culture.
Bank of America Corp, the largest U.S. bank by assets, added checking account fees last year. The BofA changes include an ebanking account, which allows customers to use ATMs and online banking for free but charges a monthly fee of $7 for teller visits or receiving paper statements.
Teller visits- $7 a month fee.
What will be next? Charging admission to walk in the front door?
First they ignore us..then they ridicule us..then they fight us..then we win..Gandhi
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(when I get one) because I'm not a BofA customer. Then I have to pay $3 to deposit the money into my debit card account. $8/week, $32/mo...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Do what I did, find a new bank.
Not their fault, if the tax code gives you a deduction you have a legal responsibility to take advatage of it. Do you take a deduction for your mortgage interest? Then you are no better than the corporations. The tax code needs to be changed and simplified. The reason they are sitting on the profits is two fold, first there is no market for products and second nobody knows what those idiots at the white house are going to do next. If business has no idea of what the rules are they will sit on their profits until they do know.
if we all went out and shopped and gave these job creators a white man president, we could have new jobs that we can work at until we're 75!
me-oww!
I think what boner is saying ...
Can't someone bring me a martini? That makes work. (hey hey)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Being on strike and getting full pay and bonuses at the expense of your fellow countrymen and still considered to be a shining patriot.
You make it SOOOOO easy for Republicans that they act like they are "bunch of college punks doing their PRANKS" ... and the prank is on YOU democrats. You know that it is a LIE, but you DON’T know how to call it for the BULLSHIT tat it is.
Job creators == CONSUMERS !!! (That is WHY George W. Bush called for Americans to BUY as much as they can - so he can MASK the stink of how bad the Economy was long enough for him to get out of office before the SH1T hits the FAN !!!)
CEOs == Job CHOKERS !!! aka how can we "sell more SH1T", but "pay LESS for LABOR" !
Share-holders == Job CHOKERS !!! aka how can we "sell more SH1T", but "pay LESS for LABOR" !
You Democrats SUCKS, so you might as well quit ...
P.S. Taxpayers == Share-holders in that thing called USA, and the company is called United states Government !
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to ship all our unemployed overseas to work as slaves in their sweatshops?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"Virtual China" right here ... it is called "Illegal Aliens", their ONLY problem they DON’T have ENOUGH of them to ABUSE.
Each Alien going LEGAL means - one LESS SLAVE !
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22 cents an hour .. even better than the 39 cents you gotta pay Haitians now ..
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GOP is the Party of KEEP DARKY DOWN ... and you know who their NUMBER ONE "darky" TARGET is ...
P.S. NOTHING have changed since the "Plantation owner times", the only thing that have changed is Lincoln got shot and the KKK party of Andrew Johnson took over.
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.. where there aren't many wages left ..
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... it's the (scumbag) Recruiters and Corporate-WallStreet's "ORGANIZED CRIME" working TIRELESSLY to MARGINALIZE my Livelihood with each passing year, and then PROJECT me for what they are: LEECHES.
Don't have no problem being a wage-slave (without a grim future).
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.
Better to import the unemployed to the United States!, better educated, and work harder!
Boycott any business or corporation that claims to be holding jobs hostage to their political agenda!
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Because the Chinese hold jobs hostage to their political agenda?
I love the Chinese!, almost as much as I love the Russians!
So do we boycott Walmart?...
Having never shopped there I guess that's kind of like a boycott.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Yes we boycott Walmart. I have never stepped into Walmart but once, by accident.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
But not because they get product from China.
I have 2 daughters and a son-in-law working at WalMarts and while it would be easy for Wallyworld to give them 40 hours a week, it doesn't.
Any corporation that is willing to publicly claim to be willing to add domestic jobs only as long as the regulations that protect Americans from their greed are removed must be starved to death.
Corporations are not people and are too often controlled by people who are rewarded for keeping their employees poor.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
For every American company that has let go its American employees and moved jobs overseas, there are executives of that company, who no doubt think of themselves as patriotic Americans, who consciously made the decision to do so. They knew damned well what they were doing, but it increased their profit margin, so they said "screw you, America".
We can't blame China, or Mexico, or Indonesia, or Vietnam, or India, for welcoming the investments these traitors shove their way. These fat-cat US executives figure they'll be dead before America totally goes down the toilet because of what they did.
Here is one that makes no sense, one of Obama's economic advisors is the CEO of G.E. The same corporation that paid zero taxes on 1.5 billion in profits, and is currently spending billions creating jobs in .....China. Shows you how smart the current administraton is.
Mr. Boehner... where are the motherfuckin' jobs you promised a year ago?
You will have to wait until the republicans are in charge. The democrats have the senate and white house so Boehner cannot get his agenda passed. Perhaps you should be ragging on your democratic representatives.
It is very simple to understand, business big and small is not going to spend anything until a few things happen. First they need to have some idea about what the program is, that is no constant trying to take their hard earned capital from them for no reason. Second we have the highest corporate tax in the world, public corporations have a fudicial responsibility to make money for their stockholders. Your 401k's are invested in these companies, we need to cut corporate ncome taxes, forgive some taxes on income generated oversease to bring back htis money to create jobs here. As long as the democrats insist on making it difficult for business nothing will change. The republicans have NO power over these corporations, thsy do what htey need to do to make their stockholders happy.
Here is a little to tell you how STUPID the administration is, one of their economic advisors is the CEO of GE (you know that company that made 1.5 billion and paid no taxes). He is currently spending billions to build plants in China, and this is someone that we have advising our government on how to keep jobs here. What is wrong with this picture lib's? Then they loan one half trillion dollars to a company that is bankrupt. They pressure the agencies to approve the deal, I might add that the Bush administration turned down, so they could show how they support green energy. The tax payers are out 1/2 trillion dollars on that deal, but the CEO did run a fundraiser for B.O. so you probably think that is okay. Wait until you see the rest of these presidenntial cronies take the gas pipe and stiff the taxpayers for billions. Swearing at the republicans is a grade school tactic, you need to look at some of these facts. Things will improve in 2013 after Obama gets blown out and there is some semblence of order in the business world. Remember nobody has ever been given a job by a poor person, and only in this country can a poor person become a multi millionaire. Sorry if this does not fit into your hateful minds but we need to look at how to move forward rather than villify the rich becasue they have worked very hard to get to where they are.
You are a moron!
Their hard earned capitol? What planet do dumbasses like you live on? Really, geebus H. Christ. What an absolutely stupid, ignorant, and clueless statement to make.
In case your little talking point filled head was in a coma back in 2008, capitalism would be dead if it were not for the people and the government funded corporate welfare to keep it afloat.
You wingnuts who live in your Donald Trump wannabee fantasyland would have to go to the cemetery to see capitalism - because it would be dead!
And now these bastards are sitting on our money, and hoarding it, because Bush and Obama gave these theives everything they wanted with no strings attatched.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Hmmmm, seems someone thinks that if I do not think the way they do, and thank god I don't, I need to be called a moron. They make scratch pads for people like you that are about 1 1/2" wide because you are so narrow minded. But that is okay, that is your right. Companies risked their capital to make a profit. It is their money, they earned it. It is not our money. Because we have the ability for people to bring their ideas to market, sell their product, and prosper or go broke is our strength. If you had been paying attention you have recently seen one of the largest bookstores in th ecountry go broke. Obviously their service was not acceptable to the market place, nothing more. No company would be going bankrupt in your scenario, so what happened to LTV steel, the railroads, TWA, Pan Am, Eastern Airlines, American Motors, Packard, etc.
The customers determine what company lives or dies. If you are so down on capitalism that is fine why don't you move to Cuba? Weather is fine and everybody shares everthing, unless you are the elite in the communist party. They still drive American cars from the 50's and have substandard housing, but hey there is no capitalism.
No.
It's just that the miserable failure of the policies and opinions you hold is apparent to anyone who has critical thinking skills.
I'm surprised you didn't reference the superior logic of the Ptolemaic system?
By the way, the america I grew up in was a far better place than this ciorporate fascist shit hole people like you have created.
Furthermore, I didn't say I hated capitalism; what I said was it would be dead without "the people" saving it.
Therefore, it really isn't their money - moron!
In the country I grew up in, capitalism was regulated for the benefit of all, and the country was much better off.
What is so hard for you to understand about that?
Finally, you are the one narrow-minded! When policies have proven to be catastrophic/miserable failures from any form of empirical analysis; to hold onto that belief in said policies is narrow-minded.
Stop projecting. You're not very good at it anyway.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
You are right, if the public does not see value in a product or service that a company offers they will not buy it. On the other hand if a company does not see where the risk of capital will give them a retun they will not take the risk. My family had auto dealerships, I have run them for years so I understand how difficult it is. Obviously you are one that just had to cash his paycheck, and there is nothing wrong with that, but those of us that have had to go through the ups and downs of business perhaps see things a little differently. I would think you would try to look at it from all different angles to try and appreciate what the other side has to endure. That is why I made the narrow minded comment. Open your mind and think about how difficult it is for business people sometimes, not always, but sometimes. As in every other thing in life there are some low lifes that give business a bad name, but just think about those that you do business with on a regular basis. Perhaps some of them have goneout of busienss, why? Like I say open your mind.
"Things will improve in 2013 after Obama gets blown out and there is some semblence of order in the business world."
This is why I'm going to vote for Obama for a second term.
It's far more entertaining to watch people like you blow a gasket. Seriously.
If I was a Gamester of Triskelion, I'd be laughing.
I'm at the point I would love to see everything crash, just so we can start over with a 'halfway' clean slate.
Not much one can say about this. You must be living under a bridge with that attitude. Just look at what happens in some of the African countries to see what will happen if everything crashes. Then and only then all the wealth will be held by a few.
Sorry if this does not fit into your hateful minds but we need to look at how to move forward rather than villify the rich becasue they have worked very hard to get to where they are.
Walmart's hard working kids:
Samuel Robson (Rob) born in 1944, John Thomas born in 1946, James Carr (Jim) born in 1948, and Alice Louise born in 1949.
Hard working Sam got his "start-up" funding from his wealthy father in law:
"Helen was the valedictorian of her high school class in Claremore, Oklahoma and a graduate of the University of Oklahoma at Norman with a degree in business. She was the daughter of L.S. Robson, a prosperous banker and rancher. She married Sam Walton on Valentine's Day, February 14, 1943."
" With the help of a $20,000 loan from his father-in-law, plus $5,000 he had saved from his time in the Army, Walton purchased a Ben Franklin variety store in Newport, Arkansas."
So, in the 30's poor poor Sam afforded college when the average American could not graduate high school because of needing to earn money to help feed their family during the depression.
Hard work and family wealth go a long long way. Many Americans could setup and run businesses but the elite wealthy have locked them out because they don't want to share the wealth with us beggars at the bottom. Ignorant fools like you buy the talking points hook-line-and-sinker that business is screwing Americans because of taxes and regulations. Well, if your brain had any function you could also read where they are sitting on massive profits, you know ones they earned while these same taxes and regulations are in place.
Most wealthy people made their money the old fashioned way, they inherited it.
Have to disagree with you there. Sam Walton went up against giant corporations, one's that could have crushed him. Look at it from this point, he bought a Ben Franklin store, how many are left today? Zero. Giant Tiger, Uncle Bills, Zayre, S.S. Kressge, F.W. Woolworth were large corporations much larger and richer than Sam. He out marketed them all, every one. Most are nothing more than a footnote in the bankruptcy court records. Sorry to disagree with you but Sam worked hard and built a huge company and believe it or not he had to work hard. All he did was build a better mousetrap and beat all the big corporate America. What Sam did that I did not like is destroy many small towns by driving the mom and pop stores out of business.
Now, after running a family business up to a few years ago I can tell you first hand that it is no bed of roses. Most of these whiners that try to villify business owners have never had to make a payroll, just pick up their check and cash it. I have had times where I have lived very well, and times that I sweated my checks all clearing, and they did. In the busienss world, contrary to what many seem to think here, you have to work for everything you get, you need to stay ahead of the competition or you fall behind. If you work it right yes you hit it big, and no most highly successful business people have not inherited their wealth, they actually have earned it. The life of a business is usually three generations, that is by the third generation it fails or is sold because it is not profitable.
No there is no way in the world market that a handful of wealthy people keep people out of making the big money. You just need a great idea and execute it flawlessly. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Wayne Huizenga, Michael Dell just to name a few were not from rich backgrounds. Most did not even have a college degree, they had an idea and executed it very well. Guess you and I will not agree on this one but just think about it even Henry Ford went bankrupt twice before he made it.
No, he took an idea implemented here in Grand Rapids ("One Stop Shopping" started at Meijer Store #11) and beat the shit out of mom and pop stores- general stores, grocery and low-end clothing- in the rural south and midwest.
Had Wozniak building good shit and brand loyalty on the strength of Wozniak's good shit. But, ya know, it's Betamax. It will always have a small niche of the computer market, but because it's such a closed culture- and now with Jobs gone- who knows where Apple is headed?
Rich kid who could have gone back to Harvard and still been rich if not for his dad's money buying the code on which the first Microsoft o.s. was based. Got a great deal from IBM because their lawyers couldn't read.
Son of an orthodontist and a stockbroker. Wonder how he'd have done with direct sales of vacuum cleaners rather than a product that was ready to start selling like tv's did in the mid-'50s. Rich kid, right place, right time.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Sam Walton did not start out with tens of thousands of stores, yes the competition could have crushed him. By the time he got to Michigan you are right nobody was going to stop him. My point is all these people started with out multi million dollars to finance them. Bill Gates, a college dropout, sold IBM on a system that he had not finished with. Got to admit it took big ones to take that kind of a gamble. The point is though although Michael Dell my have been a stockbroker that does not mean he was a multi millionaire. I have known many over the years that have made decent but not huge money. All these people took big risks and won you cannot take that away from them.
I have never been an Apple fan, but I still admire the what Jobs did, you have to they were in a field that basically did not exist. This might interest you, I believe it was Burrough's or Xerox that had the P.C. patent in the mid 70's. One of my customers worked in sales for them at that time. They would demo what was then a desk top, rather large though. When they downloaded something they would take a break, because it took so long for things to download. They begged corporate and the engineers to develop the P.C. but they would not take the time. In the late 70's, I believe my time frame is right, they sold the whole thing to IBM. The rest is history.
If it were THAT simple, you'd be able to spell, check your grammar and actually make sense with your statement. But, as it stands, the above is essentially a meaningless jumble of nonsense.
The reason it's a meaningless jumble is because your head is filled with Teatard talking points that you yourself don't quite understand. Rather than figure out what you wanted to say, you just regurgitated them as you heard them in your head.
So, your points are moot and we're ignoring your dogma.
How do they make all that bank while on strike?
And I love the invocation of Atlas Shrugged to the libertarian GOP.
"Even if 50 million people say a stupid thing - it is still a stupid thing." - Anatole France
Poor Record-Profit-Making Corporations ... SUFFOCATING any future business, CHOKING(them and all of us) on their OWN SUCCESS !
And IF you try to stop them before it's too LATE, then you are a "HATER" somehow.
If you ask me IF you try to stop them before it's too LATE, then you are a PATRIOT !
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.
The tragedy is no one has the balls to call these assholes on it.
The damage the GOP is wreaking should be easy for a real opposition party to make hay on.
No, this is alll a game. The American People don't matter to either party. It's all just politics now. As long as the politicians get paid and get reelected, why should they give a shit what happens to the rest of us.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
... you know Anthony Weiner and Alan Grayson. So sleep tight !
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.
Over the summer, my right-wing nut-job of a brother asked me, "Don't you ever say anything good to say about businesses?" He then went on to rant about how this country has become a country of people looking for handouts (ignoring the fact that he owes me $1000 that he borrowed 3 years ago), and how he wished that FDR would've died of polio before he took office.
This is what the Rethug Party has become...a bunch of Scrooges who are only looking to make more money, no matter what the cost, and if it puts more people in poverty, then so be it. It doesn't matter that my brother, along with 95% of the extreme Rethugs that are pushing this "job creator" bullshit, are too stupid to understand that you can make all the things you want to, as long as there is demand for it...but if there is no demand, THAT'S why companies stop making things. This "Field of Dreams" economics (if you make it, they will buy it) doesn't work. Hell, George H.W. Bush even made a name for Reagan's brand of economics..."Voodoo Economics". And they can't sell it, though not for lack of trying!
Drug dealers or pimps fighting turf wars.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
scam and 40 years of brainwashing (dark-side's mind tricks) - some people are just that weak or just predisposed because of their greedy/deadbeat nature. Thus the get TRICKED into voting against their OWN interests.
Too Stupid ... is the right word.
Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.
Over the past three decades. We gave the wealthy the fucking farm and look where we are now.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
It appears to me that career employees would have done better by not paying any taxes and using that saved income to become free traders (business owners).
Hmmm, I wonder what stopped them from doing that.
How about we change the system. Let the upper class that fancies themselves the superior 'GOP', go galt. We don't need them. Let entrepreneurs get loans directly from the government, that don't have to be paid back. Employers are managed democratically, workers have an even bigger voice in their companies than Unions, We become our own employers. No more upper class, those days are over. Most problems get solved this way. Corporations become dinosaurs, we have a social democracy, we have equality, we have less evil, less poverty, less racism, less suffering. It's time to get civilized!
Corporations are holding the American people hostage.
Ever since we started hearing the excuse "corporations aren't hiring because of economic uncertainty", it's looked like bullshit. When has there ever been economic certainty? After 8 years of Dubya & Cheney driving the economy into the ditch, the election of Obama gave every reason for optimism.
Anyone want to venture a guess as to how hiring might go, if there is hiring following a Republican victory in 2012 (if indeed that's what happens)? Will we see something like loyalty oaths (loyalty to a political doctrine) as a condition of employment? With the rug pulled out from under organized labor, and American workers being brought to their knees by prolonged unemployment, it's not so far-fetched.
The Republican party and Tea Party are morphing into one-in-the-same, and they are out to destroy America as we know it, to be replaced by the Corporate States of America.
They have always been the same, it's called a power grab. They lost their asses in 2008 and had to re-brand and sell themselves. I have said all along, let them get rid of Social Security, Medicare and the like so that the old ignorant fools who support them can wither on the vine and die. When their ignorant voter base is gone, so to will they be.
I know people will say I am stupid for saying this but it IS what is taking place at a slow speed. Why go slowly into the abyss, go fast so the average American feels it and knows what corporation caused it.
John Boehner saying the so-called "job creators" are on strike is like MItt Romney saying he's "unemployed" to a group of people who are barely hanging on.
It's a ploy to gain sympathy from the beaten-down middle class and get Joe Hardhat and Bill Factoryworker to believe that the right wing Republicans and Teabaggers are their friends. I'd like to know in which fucking Bizzarro Universe Boehner and Romney are living in where the rich and privileged are the downtrodden?
With the tax structure favoring the decadent privileged rich and corporations, both are taking their massive, low taxed profits and banking them in off-shore accounts. They are NOT creating jobs, and actually are betting against our economy in hedge funds. And they will continue to do this until the Koch Brothers and their ilk completely control both the state and federal government, and even then, they will continue NOT to invest in the economy until we are a third-world country with low wages, crumbling infrastructure, uneducated children, elderly living on cat food and people dying without health coverage. Of course, the wars will go on; it will be the only form of employment.
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
If Saint Ronnie was still alive, he would give the CEO's a couple days to end their strike or fire all of them in he name of the public good!!
their Corporate Masters in increasingly clear as more and more homeless swell the population of 'Bonerburg' camps around the country. It's time for a little 'strike breaking.'
Clearly, Boehner is on their email distribution list, because he simply spouted their talking points.
So, we know who Joehn Boehner's masters are.
Well, let's get some job creatin' scabs in there ...
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