The health care reform debate has been brutal. The insurance companies, right wing media and the Republican Party have spreading myriad lies and distortions about the public option and



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civil rights movement where people yelled "I am black and I am proud"

... to the cracker teabagging rebellion of 09, where people yell "I am getting screwed and I am proud of it!"

Stay classy red states...

How about just: God hates fags.

The great number of morons who live there.

The only thing standing between Oklahoma and Nebraska.

ROFLMAO! Holy shit ricky, that was funny!

These conservatives are akin to a Biblical plague. I hear they eat 10-15 times their weight every day.

and I know she did...Always said "I don't know why I can't lose weight. I eat like a bird." Yes you do, gramma. Yes. You. Do.

as the slave who believes himself to be free.

Liberal Johnson County won't have anything to do with it.

Loony bin of JoCo.

I'd have to say Douglas County would probably poll more liberaler than Johnson County.

Johnson County has 22 State House seats and 7 State Senate seats. ALL of the State Senate seats are Republicans (including State Senator Crazy-Lady from Shawnee), and only 6 of the 22 State House seats are Dems, and all are in the northeastern part of the county.

Four years ago, that was only 1 of 22 (by the way, I live in that one Democratic SH district); two years ago, it was 3 of 22.

As a member of the JC Democratic Party Executive Board, I can tell you that slowly but surely we're making JC purple.

Instead, they're just the party of bad ideas, at least in Kansas.

Uhh, way to go??

they are making a power grab.

Pastafarianism.

(Note to purists, I know where the FSM was created
but Kansas inspired him.)

Lawrence for example was a powerhouse of 60's activism and still is in many ways.

(If you consider the alternative scene "activism".)

Kansas is the Land of Oz that's about the best way to describe it.

100 years ago, Girard, Kansas was where the Appeal to Reason was published. The largest circulating Socialist/Communist newspaper in the world, with 550,000 copies printed every week.

A lot has happened to Kansas in the intervening years, particularly the redneck invasion (adding to those already there since before the Civil War, trying to turn Kansas into a slave state by force of numbers). Nixon's Southern Strategy worked in Kansas, too, turning these unreconstructed rebs into Republicans. Old guard Republicans in Kansas, more in the mold of Eisenhower than Rush Limbaugh, became marginalized. Kansas now has three main political parties: Conservative Republican, Moderate Republican and Democratic.

What is FSM?

Flying Spaghetti Monster.

All hail his noodly appendage!

A proud pastafarian!

TYVM

FSM

Ramen, brother (or sister)

by His Marinara Stigmata.

I'd link but we do not proselytize.

FSM

Flying Spaghetti Monster. An alternate theory of human origins. As credible as any other non scientific theory

perfectly suited for the Kansas creation curriculum.

sends down an offspring, born of a miracle, to walk among us.

Does it mean that some of us are meatballs even if we can't grow a pair?

semolina. But like I said, we cannot convert you. It is against our Table Manners.

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Let's not get all saucy!

lol

Saucism leads to sects. Best keep the one church.

I want to be converted. I promise I can do it. I can use my noodle with the best of them.

If you have two parachutes that means there are four of em. That is in the Kansas math curriculum.

... people in Kansas know there is no such thing as gravity, if you chose to believe it so.

a Kansan wouldn't really need a 'chute, much less a pair of them...

spiffy Jesus Harnesses?

Too bad that jumping instructors over there keep on dying in freak accidents, so the parachuting community in that state has all but disappeared. Weird.

isn't conducive to proper 'chute deployment anyway...

And that is silly. Kinda like Kansas in some ways. Didn't Toto live in Kansas with that little girl who did LSD and thought she was friends with a tin man and a straw dude? Whatever happened to her.

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but I got her little dog!

You do? What is he, about a zillion years old and that's in dog years.

By now his name should be changed to Totaled.

naw

she's 5 and a half...

I bet my dog can beat up your dog. If your dog weighs more than eight pounds, pretend I didn't write that first sentence.

"snacks."

And the terrier warrior's heart.

But chances are, she'd just want to play...

There are still living munchkins.

My wife went to high school with one of their offspring. (See there Tyler, I can brag on my spouse too.)

Hell, I have eaten munchkins. My husband hasn't eaten munchkins so I guess I can't brag about him.

with around Martini time wasn't your lawful wedded.

Shhhhhh!

...can't you guys be serious for even one minute?!...................
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OK, that's long enough. Back to the FSM debate.

I can munch on garlic bread for one minute. Seriously!

Did they ever considering just letting the people who want the public option to be able to get it and the ones who don't want don't have to have it? Of course not, to the GOP it's their way or no way.

wouldn't be a problem at all.

Isn't that the idea of a public option? It's an option for the public, right? I haven't been able to understand the strong opposition on the right to giving people a choice in their health care. Then again, the only time they seem to like giving people a choice is when it involves giving students an inferior education.

Why does it just seem she doesn't know what she's talking about....

That lady appears to have a pre-existing condition, why else would she let someone give her that god awful haircut.

She is clueless and is just repeating the tripe some idiot told her. He should have asked her where she got the information she was telling him.

probably got to her brain.

"I don't want to be helped."

Painful ignorance.

She sounds, looks and moves like a zombie!

and avoided that evil federal flu vaccine I think.

next door to a hog farm?

Maybe you should think of the pigs. If you get the flu, you might pass it on to them.

Do you really live next door to a hog farm?

We are Urban Dwellers

wind, or if the tornado put you and Toto in one of the waste lagoons.

Let no waste go to waste . . Fertilizer!

floods if you don't keep up with the dike work.

Canadian turkeys sick with swine flu

You need to have birds, then pigs to make flu for humans. Tha's why so much flu comes out of China, with the little farms that do pigs and ducks/geese. Their RNA is easily combined, and we catch through swine, because their systems and DNA is so close to ours. Porkers are the bridge species between avian disease and human disease.

after Lorne Green and Billy Shatner acheived fame. Now they have nothing left but turkeys.

(Note to AlertinAlberta and my other canuck nome de friends... I like Canada. I almost dodged there.)

... that a lot of these diseases involve large amounts of alcohol and the wrong person, in the wrong place, at the wrong time... with the right sexual deviation...

it's the mixing of wastes, and unhygienic practices among the rural folk, w/ few mod cons.

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when you need it? GD Youtube...

Darnit, we don't want no healthcare! Especially healthcare that WE pay for!

.............well, you know the rest!

you can't make her think."

Old horticulture joke popular at my school, Cal Poly Pomona.

"Boys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses," and my personal fave about my favourite actress who gave a shitty performance in a play "She ran the gamut of emotion from A to B," Miss Dorothy Parker.

Let's drink in her honour, because IIRC, she'd be tippling by now.

I'd always figured it couldn't have been one of the stoner students who came up with that line.

"that's what you get when you put all your eggs in one bastard."

go through a door first, the other woman said "Age before beauty." Parker replied, "And pearls before swine."

the guy from behind the curtain in "The Wizard of Oz", yet apparently, we haven't even left Kansas...

He sounded like Fred Thompson to me.

Americans are the dumbest people on the planet.

Republicans are the dumbest segment of the American public.

Kansas is the dumbest segment of Republicans.

Now THAT'S dumb! Well, at least they're striving for excellence in something.

.....is probably the best thing to come out of Kansas in a very long time. (Well, Sebelius qualifies, too, I suppose.

Maybe thats it.

White upscale liberal boomers. This broad must be from Dodge City or something.

She

probably is from the Sherrif Dillon line of folks.

No upscale woman in her right mind would be caught dead with that hair cut or those clothes. I picture her more as the church lady.

she's coming down with the swine flu----and hasn't had time to get her hair done!

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ha

Same as Diane Reem. She needs regular botox shots to the vocal folds to be able to speak clearly. Clearly doesn't need affordable health care....

arranged one of those Dixie Chick CD stomping events.

(R) = Retarded

brilliant as a can 'a paint!

This woman is an idiot but, clearly even she could use a chest xray! I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who vote Republican. You get the government you deserve and idiots who vote for idiots get this kind of representation! So long Kansas! When pestilence and plague hit your state, don't come crying to to government!

It would have been an BAD on-going trend to believe Iowa (Chukles Grassley's state) was tied with texas as the least informed/intelligent populous but Kansas rethuglicans have now leap-frogged over the pack...

We should now see a national referendum to place Kansas at the top of the list as those who are "Truly Stupid"...

Reslugs are born habitual liars and cheats.

"I'm a politician, which means I'm a liar and a cheat. When I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops."
-- Geoffrey Pelt (Richard Jordan), The Hunt For Red October

the bend over position.

... without a spine.

From what I read over and over here in the comments, one must grow "a pair" or grow "some balls" in order to do almost anything human.

There are those of us who can do neither. I have found no "pair" seeds or "balls" seeds at any market.

Well... there's your pair ;-)

I call mine 'girlnads'

You had your pair all along! You just had to tap them...

Both testes and ovaries are "gonads".

This fun fact brought to you by the letter "F".

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a pear, pop. C'mon...

:D

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Must you always be so negative? ;)

I guarantee that Walmart and Home Despot will soon be selling bareroot fruit trees soon enough that don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of growing in FL.

I'll never forget the display of 'Bing' cherries and 'Bartlett' pears next to the coconuts and Christmas palms at the WPB Home Despot a couple of years ago. ROFL...

Most individuals would be required to carry insurance according to Nancy the Great today.

i call the office of pat roberts almost on a daily basis and it isn't to praise or congratulate him.

And why didn't he ask her what exactly is "forced" and "anti-choice" about a public OPTION. Being forced to offer a choice to the people is the only thing that is forced.

sex she's used to being "forced" to do things?

Revelation-Party. A bright future rapidly approaching with celestial proportions!

It used to be a fairly progressive state, but then Fundamentalists and the myth of Ronald Reagan told hold.
Now it's the state that twice in the past 10 years has tried to strip all mention of Evolution (and most Earth Sciences) from school curricula.

If it weren't for Oklahoma on its southern border, Kansas would be the top wingnut state in the union.

what about south carolina?

right about now...

The race to the bottom isn't over 'til the winning rubber ducky hits the Gulf of Mexico.

It puts the landlocked states in this race at a clear disadvantage...

float it down the Mississippi River to the Gulf. NEVER eat seafood from the Gulf of Mexico. EVER!

This woman has phonic dysphonia, the same thing Dianne Reem has, and she is against providing people healthcare? She needs health care that is affordable as she needs to get botox shots to her vocal folds regularly! Why are people against what they need to better their lives and for the things that enrich the leeches that prey off them?

You can bet were she to lose her insurance that the next company would consider her botox shots either "unecessary" "elective" or "pre-existing"!

So her advice to you would be Shut Up!

This is almost like the "religious right" attempting to ban a TV show they feel violates their hypocritical principles when they can simply choose NOT TO WATCH IT. Let's take it away from everyone - i.e., let's shove our values down everyone's throat...

I fear that if states are allowed to opt out of a public option, we will see a migration of the nation's sick from states such as Kansas to those that will provide a public option; the result could be a "Grapes of Wrath" type of experience for those who can't afford health care. I hope that's comforting to the senators willing to trade their constituents in for some campaign cash, i.e. Bayh, Lieberman, Baucus.

especially for people who are on the verge of losing their homes, jobs, etc.

let me assure that we won't have to worry about that scenario.

crammed-hidden into the bill after hours the morning of the final vote.

If it even get's past the Senate.

... then they made a pretty sh*tty job at hiding them in this bill.

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... I did not find any mention re public option for the firs 250 pages of it. There seems to be a slight attempt at the anti-trust exception, but so far searching on the pdf I have only seen a single paragraph on the matter (out of hundreds of pages).

I think they have less than a week to review this thing. But so far, it doesn't look very good. It is not the handouts to the insurance companies that they were tying to hide, as much as it was the public option itself that they wanted to camouflage.

How many megs (or gigs...) is the pdf? I just took about 10 gigs of porn off my computer, so maybe there's room.

The pdf is all text, let me request the link. It is over 1K pages though, so make sure you use the search function of your pdf viewer ;-)

I was told, they stripped Kucinich's provision for single payer mandates. I guess they did that because it would have put them over the page limit it seems. Right?

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/47375

Edit: Here is the link of the bill in all its underwhelming glory, "enjoy"

http://health.burgess.house.gov/UploadedFiles...

Absurd.

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would not those states with the suddenly lowered population figures also lose Congressional seats?

[sarcasm] Yeah, hopefully more people will die after being refused heath care!!! If the health care industry didn't have that extra $700+ billion to waste every year, it would probably end up in the hands of those communist facists in Washington. [/sarcasm]

Is it me, or does she sound like she needs a Doctor?

I wonder what kind of Health insurance a Kansas state legislator gets?

Snark

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They've been working on "Science Freedom" for years.

You have the freedom to die. You have the freedom to be ripped off. You have the freedom to be taken to the cleaners. You have the freedom to be impoverished.

What's not to like?

in the end you get the same result regardless of your efforts.

Death . . Some deal huh?

"Tax Freedom" is freedom from taxes. "Health Freedom" is of course, freedom from health.

They named their biggest city after their state and found out it was in Missouri.

Half the City is Kansas the other Half is Missouri. (Misery)

While it is true that the KC area is half in Kansas and half in Missouri, Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri are separate but neighboring cities. KCMO is the much larger of the two.

And the Missourians are the ones who named it. To their credit, the closest competitor was "Possum Trot".

Kansas' largest city is actually Wichita.

Sadly she only reaffirms my belief that a large majority of Americans are jackasses.

DUMB jackasses .

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