Photo from Brett Marty, more from FiveThirtyEight:
Outside Obama's major economic policy speech in Toledo today. Feels like the End Times for somebody, I am forced to report.
[UPDATE] Just to be clear, we at FiveThirtyEight are against Muslim-murdering Presidential Christian babies !FOR! Ohio.
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Biden calls Palin out on her "pro-American parts of the country" BS.
Good Clip.
This is how their bloody 10 years of war started -- politicians publically villifying "the other" within a multi-ethnic society. That fucking BITCH is going to start the Second Civil War in the US.
I hope the Hague is documenting this bullshit and will use the evidence to bring these ASSHOLES to the HAGUE!
Palin is a very scary person to me...kinda like a terrorist! I guess if you live in a city or a suburb, have intelligence, etc, then you are anti-American??? All those 'small town' Pro-Americans can all move up to Alaska and be with their brethren of the AIP...Palin can be their 'President of Alaska'.
You think Palin is scary?! Then you should listen to this interview with Gabriel and King! What if Obama isn't really who he says he is (a Christian), what if he's really a muslim trying to get into the White House so he can find out all our top secret information? That's what I think is scary! Obama sat in the pew for 20 years under that radical Rev. Wright and then denied ever hearing the Rev. preach anti-American sermons! Why are so many Americans not thinking about how the radical muslims want to take over this country and why are the muslims backing Obama? If the muslims aren't for John McCain isn't that enough of a clue that McCain would be the person to better protect our country from terrorists and extremists? Like Gabriel says, the writing is on the wall! Americans need to wake up!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
Relax, dude, relax.
Here, sit down. Have a sip of your Kool-aid and take deep short breaths. Calm down, no need to worry. The flying saucers will be here soon. Here, put your Nikes on.
and while you are sitting and relaxing and waiting--
--go educate yourself. Learn about the REAL WORLD. You sound like an uneducated M O R O N !! People like you are what is wrong with our great country.
On the back of the sign it says "OHIO CHRISTIANS FOR BABY-MUSLIM-MURDERING PRESIDENT".
Where is King George these days? Oh yeah, negotiating away our financial system behind closed doors with non-American bankers.
What are their plans? We don't get to know.
Wow, that site is just plain nuts.
If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?
Get a clue as to what being an American is PLEASE!
First of all, Rev Wright is a Marine and served his country. Why don't we hear that?
Second, when I heard the few second video "snippets" of his sermons, I did not disagree with what he was saying, and they were in no way unAmerican.
I never heard anyone saying that Pat Roberston or Jerry Fallwell were unAmerican in their hateful statements about gays in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina.
Third, which is is for God's sake? Is Obama a Muslim or does he have a crazy preacher? It's neither to me, but it should be one or the other for ignorant folks like you.
Oh yea, that's right, Obama is the "secret Muslim", masquerading as a Christian.
I'm a Christian, but I STRONLY feel that religion should be left out of our politcal process just like the founding fathers of this country believed and legislated for.
Dude, it's basically the whole reason that we are America. We were created as a result of religious persecution and the wish to live in a country free to practice religion as each person feels (and to not believe if that is the case).
What is the problem with being a Muslim? You "religious" people seem to think that the word Muslim is a smear.
And, why the hell would Muslims vote for McCain/Palin? It's quite obvious to all Muslims that the Republicans preach a message of intolerance.
I heard a quote one time, and I don't remember who to attribute it to. It was something like:
"I remember a time when the preachers preached sermons and the politicians practiced politics".
And now we have preachers playing politics and politicians delivering religious servons.
I'm so pissed off at the backwards thinking ingorant people like you in this country.
You know, you and all the ignorant people like yourself. Just go and vote for McCain/Palin, shut the hell up, and start getting used to the sound of:
"President Obama"
Later
Elvis,
I would like to know what brand of Christianity you're following, no doubtedly the Obama-ized version? Jesus said, to suffer the little children, and forbid them not to come to me, for such are the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 19:14. The founders NEVER meant for Christian principles and Biblical values to be separated from the state. That is a revisionist view of our American history. According to the northwest ordinance, religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.
Thomas Jefferson said, regarding the Bible: "I have always said, I will always say, that the studious perusal of the sacred volume will make better citizens, better fathers, and better husbands."
Note: When Thomas Jefferson was president he put the Bible in the public schools with no qualifying disclaimer. Question: Why did he put the Bible in the public schools? His answer was that he believed IT to be the cornerstone of liberty. Adddionally, he also knew that on Sept. 12th, 1782 the full Congress approved and recommended the first english version of the Holy Scriptures for use in the public schools. Printed in the front of that Bible (the first English-language Bible ever printed in America) was the Congressional endorsement: "Whereupon, Resolved, That the United States in Congress assembled...recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States."
Of this event, one early historian observed: "Who, in the view of this fact, will call in question the assertion that this is a Bible nation? Who will charge the government with indifference to religion when the first Congress of the States assumed all the rights and performed all the duties of a Bible Society long before such an institution had an existence in the world!"
It's erroneous to assert that the founding fathers who came to this country in the name of CHRISTIANITY to Christianize the inhabitants of this continent would legislate contrary to that sentiment.
Patrick Henry said, "It cannot emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionist, but by Christians, not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
Contrary to the backslidden wishful thinking of today's revisionist plurists; Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, yata-blah-cetera did NOT found this nation. Neither did atheists, agnostics, skeptics and deists, nor did ANY other ism or ology found it! CHRISTIANS founded it!
Political scientists now know that the greatest single source of political inspiration for our founding fathers was the Bible, which was sited in 34% of the quotations from the founding era (1760-1805). This discovery, while it might surprise many today, would have come as no surprise to the founders. It was John Adams who explained: "The greatest principles on which the fathers achieved independence were...the general principles of Christianity."
John Adams said, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people."
Robert Charles Winthrop said: "...Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them, or a power without them; either by the word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet..."
Thomas Jefferson said: "Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that His justice cannot sleep forever."
For nearly 8 years, a government dominated by Christian Fundamentalists has been telling Muslim Fundamentalists they have no right to form a government, anywhere in the world. Those same Christians have been willing to go to war to make their point. I'm not the least bit surprised that Muslims do not support the Republican party.
He misspelled "Pity me, I am a simpering cock".
When exactly did McCain decide to take the low road?
http://www.filthyrichmond.com/2008/08/dont-ju...
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/...
Chicago Tribune - 1st time in paper's 161 year history that it endorses a Democrat for President.
Salt Lake City Tribne Endorses Obama - that's right SLC!
Obama gets 11 "flip-flops" that endorsed Bush in '04. McCain gets -0-.
Most pressing reason for not endorsing McCain: the "Disasta from Alaska". Oh Ya! You betcha!
Basically it is the brain trust of the whole state of Utah.
It is like the Austin of Texas... an island of sanity among a sea of underwhelming mental mediocrity.
SLC is relatively liberal? Compared to what? Everytime I visit there, which is about twice a year, I feel like I'm in some foreign country that is a theocracy.
I'm sorry, I cannot agree with you on this. However, I will give you one - they did have Rocky for their mayor for a while and they do support immigration reform (but only to build up the church).
IN the areas I've been in. There are a LOT of gay people in SLC. Especially a large population of lesbians. I think it's more of the college crowd.
I'm stunned at your definition of liberal. I know liberal cities and SLC is NOT one of them.
Both Salt Lake CITY and Austin are CITIES. According to Palin, cities are not the REAL America! (Just what sort of America do McCain and Palin want to be president and veep OF? Sad how their campaign has devolved into divisiveness, name calling and general desperation.)
If people like Palin and this guy with the sign didn't dominate rural and suburban areas and make them such miserable places to live, some of us city dwellers might choose to live there ourselves, especially as we get older and tire of the city's rush and noise. If there were diverse, liberal rural areas, I'd live there, but all the Republicans and Libertarians in those areas make them sociocultural hellholes.
that is what is wrong with america.
WOW- what a great CHRISTIAN. so loving and christ-like.
I would have to agree. It just shows that this-brand of Christianity is misguided and full of hatred.
or Vietnam.
Post-NeoCon President, this is what passes for democratic discourse in the nation that threw of the shackles of the monarchy and showed the world that the great experiment in democracy could work...
...oops, guess Dumble-U proved us wrong.
Can we rejoin England now?
I see and hear this this type of crap all the time from the evangelical crowd, most of which are Southern Baptist, or Fundamentalist Baptist (like my wife's batshit crazy cousins). They might be stupid, but they are evil.
You had better dust off your Bible and recheck it again and see that this God that revealed it, hates a lot of things, like the murdering of the unborn (Proverbs 6:17) as well as sodomites. That's why he destroyed them with fire and brimstone. Genesis 19:24; Jude 1:7-8; Psalms 11:5-6; Leviticus 20:23 and Deuteronomy 12:31. This concept of god that you are trusting in, is a false confidence that you've deceived yourself with. It is a god made in your own image, that you can live with, a kind of sugar daddy type of guy in the sky who loves everybody regardless. But that's NOT the GOD of the Bible! (Romans 1:18-32). I hate what God hates! [Do I not hate those who hate Thee, OH LORD? And do I not loathe those who rise up against Thee? I hate them with the utmost hatred; They have become my enemies.] (Psalm 139:21-22)
You're not Christian, but some branch of selective Old Testament whack job. Read your Bible from the part that says "New Testament", especially the Sermon on the Mount. Really you can't miss it, but you obviously can miss the point.
Wow,
"Norman", you have a whole bunch a quotes ready to whip out at a moments notice.
Impressive.
If you read the "red" text, you get the message that Jesus loved us all.
Even sinners like myself.
Peace.
Elvis,
I noticed you didn't respond to all those scriptures that I mentioned. I believe the WHOLE Bible is authoritative, not just the "red letter" part. The last time I checked I did not see the "red letter" system in the Greek text of the New Testament. Why do you believe the "red letter" part of the Bible and not the part of the Bible that condemns homosexuality? Why do you love those that hate the Lord? II Chronicles 19:2; Romans 1:30. A loving God does not send His people to hell. Neither does He destroy their cities with fire and brimstone. Genesis 19:24; Jude 1:7-8; Psalm 11:5-6. Every plant, which my heavenly Father has not planted shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Matthew 15:13-14 (red letter part) By the way, this is the "Jesus who supposedly loves everybody", that said that!
35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
A Christian who drops bombs on babies in Iraq is fine and dandy.
CMINCA: They owe us an apology, too.
or Vietnam
According to the police, 100,000 people attended his rally in MO. That is a record for any political event in the United States. Why is this one nutcase's picture the lead?
Let's post some positive things.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post...
100k people in the streets for obama! Now the wingnuts will REALLY go crazy. They are scared shitless now and reaching for their ammo. It's a people's uprising! a vast communist/socialist insurgency! they will destroy amerika and all she stands for! to arms! to arms! protect your family from the socialist hordes!
You watch, that will be their take on the matter.
Once again, the bastion of right wing thinking, Michael Savage, called for the army to mow down liberals with machine gun fire...
I'd like to think Savage is just one nut on the right, but scores on the right are just like him-they are mentally ill.
I'm convinced the Christian holding the sign in this thread also has psychiatric issues
Michael "Savage" is a false name. He changed his real last name because it didn't sound very good for radio. Michael Savage's real last name is "Weiner". I wonder, is that pronounced "Weeener", or "Whiner"? Either way, it doesn't sond much like his radio personna, although calling someone a "Savage" (You big savage) isn't really a term of respect either. The guy is a seriously insecure, frightened little man who has a job in which he can lash out at all the people who make him feel that way.
I personally wouldn't be too surprised if Savage has a few 'closet issues' buried somewhere in his personality.... just sayin'...
Because he's not ONE nutcase. He's one of a whole BUNCH OF NUTCASES who think the little voices upstairs are God talking to them.
Positive thoughts are not going to make these hate-blinded folk go away.
I don't particularly fear them, but I won't pretend they don't exist.
These are the fruits of the spirit:
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control." (Galatians 5:22)
Which candidate and which campaign better illustrates these Christian attributes?
Imagine watching the last debate with the sound off. Observe the bearing and self-control of the candidates.
Which candidate would you rather have as a role model for your children?
Character is everything.
This person is a clear example of what becomes of a person who subjects themselve to the Propaganda put forth by the likes of Fox news and Rush.....
Frighteningly ignorant.
As an experiment, listen to Rush Limbaugh EVERY day for a whole week. By Friday, he will begin to sound sane, and that's your clue you have been there TOO long!
Actually, I logged for a week what Fox and CNN said politically (I was in a hotel which only had Fox and CNN. It was an interesting experience.
but they are hearing it in their churches.
Maybe not directly from the pulpit, but they are reinforcing themselves, their gatherings and associations.
The Republicans know that the religious right are wrapped around their finger, and they could give a crap about any baby once it is born.
They just use the abortion issue to maximum effectiveness to get ignorant people to vote, against their own best interests, on this one issue.
That man holding the sign claiming he is a Christian, what kind of message is he getting from his church?
It's mind boggling.
Peace.
I don't know any baby murdering muslims that are on the ballot this election. Have you?
Jesus wept.
Here in California. We have Proposition 8. The anti gay Prop against gays.
While I was driving home from work today, I saw about 15-20 people on a corner with their signs saying" Freedom of Religion".Vote yes on 8.
Now, I know a vote against 8 is for equality.period.
These people are being dishonest. No surprise.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Basically, there is an ad running that says the same thing, that ministers would be sued or prosecuted for not conducting gay marriages.
Lots of Yes on 8 signs, actually banners, in surrounding areas of where I live in CA. I was on my way to Ojai the other day and went through Casitas Springs - lots of them there, along with McCain-Palin and Tony Strickland yard signs.
There are also a lot of gun shops and liquor stores there too.
These people are turning things upside down.
But I didn't expect to see that kind of dishonesty here in Monterey.
I suppose i should have seen this coming.
Lots of money has moved into this area.
Screwem. There is more of us here. And always will be.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Have you seen any of the ads where they are claiming that gay marriage will be taught in public schools (in those general terms - not really sure what their point is)?
I actually heard one of these ads on Air America Radio. I was rather shocked, but I guess anyone can buy air time.
CMINCA,
I was at the corner store here in my nook of San Francisco when that ad appeared on the television. The store owners and customers all watched in horror.
The thrust of the ad is that kids will have to learn to respect gay marriage as equal. It's all part of their zero-sum version of Orwellian freedom. If we have the freedom to marry, then they won't have the freedom to practice a religion that believes we shouldn't have the freedom to marry.
Sorry, bigots, but liberty isn't zero-sum. It's either equal for everyone or non-existent.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
Is all bigotry wrong? And says who?
Norman,
Shouldn't you be at some hate filled sermon right now?
Elvis,
Is all hate wrong? And says who?
War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery
Listen to the candidate's speeches, that's just what it all boils down to.
I've heard the same ads on 1070 AM in Los Angeles. Typical deceptive campaign. Trot out a bunch of things that won't happen, but will frighten enough people.
I work for a public school, and have friends that work for other school districts in CA. Don't think for a minute that this stuff won't happen because it already is! It's definitely not a deceptive ad, it's all true! The homosexual agenda will be pushed on everybody regardless of what peoples religious beliefs are and parents will have no right to object. The public (government run) schools will have more control over the children then the parents! The ads against Prop 8 are the ones that are deceptive because Prop 8 does NOT take away any rights or benefits from gay or lesbian domestic partners. Under California's domestic partner laws (Family Code Section 297.5) they have rights and benefits identical to those of spouses. Prop 8 restores the definition of marriage. God himself is the author of marriage. It's meaning is written in the very nature of man and woman as they come from the hand of the Creator.
Iraqi killing, ex-flyboys for president
"I'm a complete moron and I vote"
so I can stick it over every "McCain/Palin" or "Bush" bumper sticker.
"Nice bumper sticker."
"Thanks."
Ok, what joker paid his best friend 20 bucks to...
"go stand in front of that police horse with this sign".
...or do people like that truly exist?
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
horses asses,eh?
DAMNED FUNNY! Hiya, UncaDave!
Yourself!
I live in Ohio; and sadly, there are at least two women at work that were probably standing alongside this ignoramous.
The smell of desperation is in the air.
The new "Diebold" will be there to save the day.
wouldn't want a baby murderer of any stripe running for president.....uh oh yeah One Did! And won twice. Silly Me. That said,the guy is a tool.
You know they're desperate when you start to see this on a regular basis: http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/he-...
This always reminds me of a post that was on C&L about a month ago where someone said America would never vote for a "mulatto". I was utterly repulsed.
If I were to express my opinion to this person that his sign was offensive and disgusting, I would bet money he would accuse me of trying to take away his free speech rights.
If I were to hold up my own sign that said, American Atheists Against Religious Bigotry in Campaigns, I would bet money that his ilk would threaten more than my right to free speech.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
Can you imagine if you simply held a sign that said "Christains Against Palin". You might be stoned.
Personally, I'm wondering if this guy is stoned.
If he is, he's not on the stuff that enlightens you or makes you more empathetic like MDMA or pot. He's probably one of those jock types that take testosterone supplements to make them more aggressive. Or he's pumped up on caffeine so he's on edge all the time. That sounds more right-wing to me.
I would applaud them, and ask them if they needed a bottle of water or anything.
I'm against baby murdering Christians for president.
I'm tellin' folks... this is how most of the people I know who are voting for McCranky Pants think. However, I do believe they are in the minority this time around.
Show me some love and take the poll Should U.S. Congress Members Be Investigated as Anti-Americans? at www.democrazyarkansas.blogspot.com
if Bachmann got her way with the proposal of HUAC-like hearings. I am so pleased that her opponent got an influx of money into his coffers. It is very tiring to have these RW blowhards spew their filth and no one takes them on.
Maybe it is a sign of good things ahead. I certainly hope that more liberals and Democrats step up to the plate and fight back.
Rolling over and playing dead is not an option.
There is a link over at Huffington Post to a Censure Bachmann petition.
Something needs to happen. I believe that Bachmann bordered on sedition last night.
What that woman said on Hardball last night was scary and unwarranted for the times we live in. Of course, as a American, she can have her First Amendment Rights, but her speech amounted to shouting fire in a burning building. Her talk was to incite harm.
Which reminds me...Palin still hasn't accounted for the hate speech at her rallies, has she? Will she be inviting McCarthyite Michele to stand by her side before the election season is done?
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/tinklen...
He raised $125,000 in 24 hours, but races are expensive.
Please donate to Tinklenberg if you can. He is running against that whack job Bachmann.
I had heard about the overwhelming support for Bachmann's opponent last night. He had raised something like 30,000 dollars within 3 hours of the Hardball broadcast. I am glad that even more money is being poured into the coffers to oust that woman.
Mr. Tinklenberg is running neck and neck with her in Minnesota. I hope that the donations help to push him over the top.
Which brings me to the question, who in their right mind would vote for Bachmann anyway?
If everyone here would donate $10.00 to Tinklenberg, he would be flush with cash to ensure that this Backmann nutcase is not reelected.
$10 from each of you...my personal challenge to every person reading this.
Follow this link to donate to Tinklenberg.
https://services.myngp.com/ngponlineservices/...
And I thought Obama was having a hard time with his middle name during this election.
Poor Tinklenberg, just imagine the ads.
At least it doesn't sound "Arab".
I hope Tinklenberg "pisses" all over the "whack job".
Peace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w
How many times do you need to hear the truth that this birth certificate thing is bullshit.
Man, do we have some of the dumbest people in this country or what? The picture at the header (along with this video) proves it.
Obama is an American citizen who is eligible to be president of the US. Get over it.
Why doesn't Obama just show the courts the birth certificate and prove that Berg is wrong?
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
How bias is CL for not posting this?
Go away troll,
and read up and EDUCATE YOURSELF. This phony story has been debunked.
Have a nice day. Go on, now.
If it's been debunked, where's the birth certificate? Please educate me with the "evidence" of the "real" birth certificate! How is calling people names an argument?
*sniff sniff*
Smell that? The sweet stench of desperation.
Yep, McCain has us right where he wants us.
With a double digit lead in the polls.
^ Let's see CL post that on their main page.
Let's see you post as a real person - like with a name.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
What an ignorant fool? Just like Sarah Palin! His reading material also must be similar to hers, of course, if he reads anything at all.
Trying to force a religulous state on us.
Memphis, Tennessee's daily paper, the Commercial Appeal, endorses Obama. The comment thread gives new meaning to the phrase "Dirty South" !
But, as the governor has become an increasingly controversial figure, some images have been less picturesque.
There was the national columnist who described Wasilla as "a soulless strip mall without sidewalks." And the parade of gory late-night jokes about aerial wolf hunting. And the "Saturday Night Live" skit that featured an unfunny reference to backwoods incest ("I mean, come on," the character said. "It's Alaska").
At the Dena'ina Civic and Convention Center, where the Alaska Travel Industry Association was holding a trade show recently, conversations on the floor of the exhibit hall veered to politics and Palin and the press.
What will it mean in the long run? Will negative portrayals stick?
I didn't know that there was a baby killing Muslim running for president. Who is that? Would that be McCain? I never heard McCain claim to follow any religion so maybe he is Muslim. He did kill babies when bombed villages in Vietnam. Is it McCain? Really?
A fine example of the disconnect of these Amerikkans is "Joe the Plumber" who in an interview I was watching mentioned he was against Social Security because he would rather be responsibile for his own retirement. This is the individualism that many of these Amerikkkans love to project. But only a few sentences later he states his pride in our bringing "freedom" to Iraq. There is no thought on his part regarding the fact that the indivdualism of the Iraqi people might not want another country interferring in "their" affairs. I am sure it never dawns on that type of person.
A Theory to ‘Explain’ Michele Bachmann
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4115
He is a scumbag and a perpetual liar who will lie to your face in a split second and think nothing of it. He has done this all his life and he will not change now. I do believe his injuries were from the ejection from his 6th airplane and not from torture as he claims after he bombed and killed hundreds of innocent women and children who were caught up in it all. I do not believe the rest of his POW account. He sold his country down the tubes and collaberated with the enemy. SO WHO is the un-American one?
he's opposed to someone who is both (a) a baby killer, and (b) a muslim being president...but that he'd be fine with one or the other.
giving the guy waaaay too much credit. I'm sure his mind is not that complicated.
right, of course. Just a joke on my part.
But who knows? Maybe this guy's a physician, for example. Or a lawyer or engineer or schoolteacher.
No rule says one has to be uneducated to carry such a sign.
You are right,sir/Ms.. That makes it even more crazy.
Shoot; I forgot to mention that other than that, I kind of liked "Joe" and I thought he was handling all the media exposure pretty well.
What a retard asshole fuckwad. It's funny how you never see left leaning picketers holding a sign saying something like, "American against Nazi sympathizing way too old to be president senator who hates black people and wants to kill all democrats"
It would be sad if he weren't such a bigot.
... has no earthly clue how utterly stupid, myopic, uninformed, provincial and ignorant he is.
He's a walking personal tragedy.
And it breeds.
I just returned from the Obama rally under the Gateway Arch here in St. Louis on a gloriously beautiful day with mild temperatures, high white, sporadic clouds and 100,000+ extraordinarily intelligent people.
For those of you who don't know St. Louis, it has been an immensely racially polarized city for a long, long time. Riding the packed MetroLink train to the riverfront, we were all one, black and white, excited, chattering together, just thrilled at the turnout. When we arived at the Eads Bridge Station and saw the huge crowds already gathered on the street below, the cars erupted with cheers and hugs. We piled out, descended the stairs and waited patiently for 2 hours to get into the Arch grounds. As each train pulled into the station above us, the same cheering erupted.
According to the story below from a local St. Louis station, this was the largest Obama rally ever, perhaps the largest for any US presidential candidate anywhere. It certainly dwarfed all the others I've ever seen here before, including Bill Clinton's in 1992.
Standing in the middle of Wharf street, seeing my whole town together brought tears to my eyes, as it did to a black woman about my age next to me. it really looked like the whole city was there. Finally, we were all together, at peace, friends, neighbors, a full community.
And best of all, it was completely open - no checkpoints, no menacing paranoid party aparachiks checking to see if you were a local party member. Although I didn't see any McCainites, they could have come if they wanted to and they could have gotten in.
Missouri is a very conservative state - having the largest rally ever here in St. Louis is a good omen.
On the train home I spoke with an african-american woman who had just gotten off work witht he election commission. She was exhausted - they have a lot of work to do because there are so many new voters. All these young people, I asked?
No, some of these people haven't voted in their entire life - some of them are 90 years old (!!) and see this as the election they finally see a reason to vote in. She implied that they were registering as democrats. For any of you who live in the St. Louis area, the election commission has paid positions - they need people to process election registrations - the job has just gotten too big to handle in-house.
Gotta go, I'm going to apply on-line to volunteer on election day.
Milo
PS: Oh yeah, and Obama's speech was amazing, of course.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?sto...
been to St.Louis,have rode that Metro,and stood on the spot you did.You described it beautifully.It must have been wonderful.
She said it was absolutely amazing. And to think that 100,000 people came down even though the main east/west highway in St. Louis is closed for construction. Imagine how many more would have come if they weren't put off by that fact. We'd have had another 25-50 thousand.
Wish I could have been there.
As was the turnout to hear our next President speak. Obama/Biden '08!
Radix Omnium Malorum Avaritia
100,OOO OBAMA ANTI-AMERICAN SUPPORTERS IN ST.LOUIS. SEND IN THE TROOPS
"Kathleen" you are an immoral coward!
PORTIA
That light we see is burning in my hall.
How far that little candle throws his beams!
So shines a good deed in a naughty world.
NERISSA
When the moon shone, we did not see the candle.
PORTIA
So doth the greater glory dim the less:
A substitute shines brightly as a king
Unto the king be by, and then his state
Empties itself, as doth an inland brook
Into the main of waters. Music! hark!
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Congratulations St.Louis,
How amazing it must have been to be there. You beat our record, we had 80,000 here in Portland so I know that feeling of being part of something so large and so important. For a couple of hours we weren't separate individuals with white faces, black faces, brown faces, yellow faces, young faces, old faces. Barack Obama made us one that day, with a common goal and love of our country and I will never in my life forget that experience.
to send me a letter telling me to vote for Bush in 2004 because he was "Pro-Life" to consider how cynically the Republicans had used this issue.
At this point the Republicans had both Houses of Congress, the Presidency and a conservative majority on the Supreme Court for six of the past eight years. Did they even attempt to repeal Roe v.Wade? Of course not. If they did, they wouldn't get all these people working for them every election cycle and sending their "Pro-Life" candidates campaign contributions. So it's actually not in their best interest to ever repeal Roe V.Wade. Can't understand why these people haven't been able to figure this out since forever.
I have been saying the exact same thing for a long time. They do nothing about it because they would no longer have a big stick to hit the Dems over the head with. I believe the Dems would be better off if they would talk about this issue in terms of the government not interfering in everyone's lives. Isn't that what most repugs gripe about?
Kathy,
My sister-in-law mainly supported the GOP because of the abortion issue. I took the same approach you did in pointing out the fact that the GOP did absolutely nothing to repeal Roe V. Wade. After explaining this to my sister-in-law, she looked at me and said that I asked a very good question. A week later she told me she will be voting for Obama even though she does not agree with his view on abortion. She said the state of the economy and rising costs of living and unemployment could actually make the abortion option look more appealing to pregnant women.
People who conflate faith in a politician with their faith in Christ are, by their very nature, gulible and psychologically need a dictator/king to tell them what to think, feel and do.
pathetic
It seems that this person made a connection with her sister-in law, and she was able to change her mind.
It should give "us" a little hope that we can do the same.
Personally, I'm tired of trying to convince the "abortion voter Christians" to vote Democratic.
I've been trying all my life, with little success, and it's frustrating.
Seems like someone has given me a good angle that just may work.
Thanks.
Peace.
Wait, Bush is Muslim? Or does this mouth breather not count Iraqi babies....children and adults?
Whatever happened to the plan these holy rollers had to all move to South Carolina and secede from the union? I thought that was a fantastic idea.
I'm against baby-murdering Muslims for president as well. I didn't know one of those was even a candidate though.
The look on his face says it all.
Stupidity fueled by the never ending spread of FEAR mongering.
The mear fact that the party he is preaching for has LITERALLY RUINED this once strong country, for the benefit of ONLY the wealthy, through REPEATED deception and lies, FLIES DIRECTLY OVER HIS TINY LITTLE NON-THINKING, OVER-ZEALOUS, PEA-BRAIN!
S-H-E-E-P-L-E is highly appropiate here.
Let's just hope it's ONE dumb shit, and not a representative of more than his ignorant self.
Hate and ignorance are alive and well. Thank you from newt to bor. Pump up the hate....we already have the ignorant.
SOMEONE GET THAT AMERICA HATING TERRORIST!
Name yourself tough guy!
He's oddly specific regarding what he's against. Why not just against baby-murdering in general?
Is he saying that he would be alright with a baby-murdering muslim in a different position of government, like secretary of defense, or environment or something?
Would a baby-murdering Sikh, or a baby-murdering Yazdanist find favor with him for a presidential position?
And there's the implicit suggestion that murdering babies characterizes Muslims. I tried to think of instances of babies being specifically murdered. My knowledge of history isn't great, but this is what I came up with, and they were all Christians doing it:
Colonel Chivington ordering Native American children to be gunned down in the 19th century because "nits make lice." Those in his command obeyed, some noting that the shot "tore them up terribly." Chivington was an avowed Christian.
Guatemalan troops bashing Mayan Indian babies against rocks in front of their soon-to-be-slaughtered families in the early 80s as part of evangelical Christian president Rios Montt's genocidal campaign of highland massacres. Again, a Christian, and one supported and funded by US right-wing Christian, Ronald Reagan.
I'm sure there are more but that's all I can think of right now. Christians as recently as the 15th century were accusing Jews of killing babies, creating a hysteria which led to pogroms and the expulsion of Jews from Spain.
Are we there already?
That was fast. (sigh)
I'm also against Baby Killing Muslims that run for President! Why would anyone kill an innocent child? Good thing there are not any baby killing muslims running for office much less for that of president.
I'm also against Baby Killing Christians that run for President! Why would anyone kill an innocent child? Too bad there is a baby killing christian crashing Navy planes on unsuspecting villagers and then running for office as a hero.
barack merkley
She's one of those who watch FOX so you don't have to
She suffered a massive aneurysm and .....
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/10/19/deborah_n...
That is the face of desperation. These bozos are so freaking desperate, it's hilarious. This clown gives Christians a bad name.
I give you the 40 year old virgin.
barack
merkley...
http://www.theworriedshrimp.com/barackmerkley...
A clear failure of the media, I didn't have any idea, that mccain was a baby killing muslim, the great magical being in the sky has taken control of this guy, Gee I wonder what he is thinking... enee,minie,chile beanie, the spirits are about to speak.-CEO
This will definitely spin as "total desperation" to the american people and will occupy, along with Michele Bachman's "anti americans in congress" meme for the coming week.
If there are any undecideds at this point, these scary comments coupled with Palin's Pro-america cities will cinch it for good.
These women are the faces of neo fascism and very dangerously toxic to the progress of this country.
They must be getting very desperate because their slimy meme is only pushing people further and further away.
My home state always finds new ways to embarrass me.
These are outright treasonous accusations by these knuckleheads in the RNC.
Let's start a new campaign: IS YOUR CITY PRO AMERICA OR ANTI AMERICA??
IS YOUR CONGRESSMAN PRO-AMERICA OR ANTI-AMERICA?
NANCY, THE JACKASS PUFFENHAUER, BELIEVES THAT NORTH VIRGINIA IS NOT THE 'REAL VIRGINIA' - WTF ARE THESE SICKOS DRINKING AT THE MC CAIN HEADQUARTERS?
he has obviously allowed crimes to go unanswered under his watch, what makes you think mcLAME/pALIN would do things differently?
He's not only the president of the lonely heart club, he's also a client.
Where the hell is law enforcement in this country? These sick twisted f**cks need to be behind bars.
And I have no problem with his carrying his dumb assed sign.
I fear for what is going to happen when Obama wins, though. You cannot sew the seeds of hatred, racism and fear and not expect disastrous results.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/...
You just can't make this sick shit up. McCain and his surrogates have finally gone around the bend.
McCain and the RNC have become dangerous to the safety and security of this country.
Zeig Heil, neo fascists!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/...
I'm not voting for a baby-murdering Muslim. I'm voting for Obama :-)
Thank you right wing nuts.
NOBODY 2012
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