GOP Congressman Introduces Bill To Ban and Deport All Immigrants From Designated "Terrorist" Countries
WTF?:
Congressman Gresham Barrett (R-SC) has announced his intention to reintroduce legislation that would prohibit “the admission of aliens from countries designated as State Sponsors of Terrorism as well as Yemen to the United States.” The Stop Terrorist Entry Program (STEP) Act, first introduced in 2003, also would have required all persons from these countries on student visas, temporary work visas, exchange and tourist visas to leave the United States within 60 days, despite their legal status in the country. Residents and nationals of Iran, Cuba, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen would be affected.
The bill makes an exception only in the cases of individuals who are seeking political or religious asylum, or who have immediate emergency medical needs.
Congressman Barrett said his bill came in response to the Fort Hood shooting and the Christmas-day attempt to blow up an airplane over Detroit. “While President Obama may have declared an end to the War on Terror, it is clear our enemies did not get the message. Twice in the past two months, radical Islamic terrorists have attacked our nation and the Administration has failed to adapt its national security and immigration policies to counter the renewed resolve of those who seek to harm our citizens.”
The American Army major and Nigerian alleged to have committed those attacks would not have been affected by the STEP Act.
I swear, Republicans cannot think their way out of a paper bag. This would have done NOTHING to prevent the two attacks in the last year. In fact, I would hazard a guess that it might actually radicalize even MORE Muslims with its naked bigotry.
And while we're at it, let's examine that list of targeted countries. Remind me again, how many terror attacks have originated from Cuba? Iran? And why isn't Saudi Arabia on that list?
The National Iranian-American Council has launched a campaign against Barrett's actions. It states:
If passed, the bill would deport all Iranians on student visas, temporary work visas, exchange visas, and tourist visas from the United States within 60 days. It would also make it illegal for Iranians to travel to the United States, though some exceptions may be made for medical emergencies and political or religious asylum after "extensive federal screening." [..]
At a time of increasing repression in Iran, this proposal will impose even greater burdens on Iranians seeking refuge abroad. Iranian Americans must unite to tell Congressman Barrett that this legislation is offensive to American principles, harmful to US interests and discriminates against Iranians and Iranian Americans.
I can't possibly emphasize enough what a tenuous place Iranians find themselves right now. I've spoken to many Iranian friends who feel strongly that the government is in a state of flux and could quite possibly radically change (and secularize). This is not the time to play cowboy and give the Iranians a reason to rally around us as an enemy.
But of course, when has facts and reality ever actually played into the kabuki theatre of partisan politics?
Rounding up and deporting people. Hmmm, where has this happened before?
out Nazi-ing the Nazis.
Roosevelt's Proclamation 2561 comes to mind. If we at 'war' then maybe we should act like it? This is as about as gray as any area can get. If I am not mistaken...Congress never officially 'declared war' as far as terrorism is concerned. How do you declare war on on idea that has taken root in some way shape or form in probably every Muslim country that exists? How do you find the bad guys that might do harm on our soil without 'profiling'? This is why we should just get out of the Middle East (especially Israel) altogether. Maybe this is one of the real reasons behind the detention camps built by Halliburton for the Bush Administration? Just simply walk out of the trap made by The WarPigs.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
Sat, 01/09/2010 - 08:06 — ComradeAnon
Rounding up and deporting people. Hmmm, where has this happened before?
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Puritans and Pilgrims?
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I was a student at ASU in 1979 and there was alot of Iranian students there....it was sad to witness the American bandwagon mentality...
Of course no one knew about the 1953 coup or what the coming storm of blowback was...
And then in 1988 we shot one of their passenger airlines down...
Why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list?
15 of the 19 911 hijackers?
Terror-symp Michelle Bachmann tried to warn them!
... round them up and place into cattle cars for shipment over the border to... someplace they can be released... yessss... it's a solution, but which one...
Seriously though, I think the article makes some excellent points:
When exactly has Iran used terrorism against the US?
How about Cuba?
And what about the home of the vast majority of the WTC bombers (not to mention the originating country of Wahabism)?
Security theater strikes again, making it appear that someone is doing something to make you safe even if it amounts to nothing but pissing off (or is that pissing on?) millions of people who have not done anything.
He's from South Carolina. Move over Texas and Georgia. South Carolina has officially taken over your title as the state with dumbest politicians.
is intended to be a factual statement
Even the Confederacy is embarassed by South Carolina. I'm starting to think that we need to turn South Carolina into one big golf course.. Oh wait, it already is.
I shouldn't say this as someone of Scottish/Pict decent, despite my Welsh sobriquet, but golf is as boring to me as watching paint dry without smoking weed first.
That's one thing I HAAATTEE about American cemeteries; they look like golf courses. I'd rather be buried in a place I'd be proud to haunt, like Highgate, preferably the Western part where it's overgrown and somewhat crumbling and ivy bestrewn. I'd also be with my ancestors, except for the four that I know of buried at Westminster Abbey.
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Get drunk first on a 85 degree sunny day then go golfing.
is intended to be a factual statement
I thought that's how you went hunting with friends.
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I think SC took the lead in backward country .
I thought what we did to the japenese americans during wwii.
I guess he never heard of that?
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it is killing america one day at a time!
He thinks it worked.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
So is redundancy.
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But not the Germans. Guess they're white and Christian.
What does that tell you 'bout 'Merica? Enter Muslims.
far left loon >.<
for more deaths of the others citizens?
If you add up those dissapeared from the coup and over the 25 year reign of the Shah and SAVAK, and those killed by supporting Sadam in the 80-88 war plus the 290 innocents on Flight 655....
Then the USA is responsible for way more deaths of Iranians than vice versa...
The US is the worlds #1 source of state sponsored terror after all.
Funny how it get's to make the list of countries sponsoring terrorism, guess it takes one to know one eh?
America's principal exports: war and debt.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
Didn't you hear? Americans are the only people that matter
that all these Foreign students graduating from U.S. University's a decade ago would go home upon graduation and use everything they learned against us.
because they came to this country and found out in college how much their countries were exploited and how it was necessary for global corporate domination.
Just another reason why republicans hate liberal arts education. too much truth.
Some stuff you can't make up!
I wish the media would differentiate the two...one WAS an attack...the other was an ATTEMPTED attack...
rpine21
to differentiate? They report what they are told to report.
Today we got attacked . . today we didn't get attacked . . rinse, repeat.
Cubana Flight 455 was a Cubana flight from Barbados to Jamaica that was brought down by a terrorist attack on October 6, 1976. All 73 people on board the Douglas DC-8 aircraft were killed in what was then the most deadly terrorist airline attack in the Western hemisphere.
"Evidence implicated several CIA-linked anti-Castro Cuban exiles"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_Flight_455
The interesting reading here is AFTERMATH and FBI and CIA Knowledge.
Especially regarding the rhetoric of the USA not harboring terrorists.
What do they think this is, England
Back when they were deporting everyone for every thing to Australia?
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Too bad this is about your country and not mine.
But let's take a second to think about what the US was doing at the same time hmmm?
Oh yeah, killing all the native populations of it's country (well, at least the country it wanted to make it's country after the natives were dead) and/or force marching them to reservations in the desert.
Yup. Not hard to figure out which is worse.
To top it off, you gave your exiles one of the most beautiful places on the planet as their new home. We gave the remaining few ours infertile plots of wasteland that still to this day are more aligned with a refugee camp then a sovereign homeland.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
but 9 out the 10 most deadliest snakes...
and other deadly bugs and crocks and stuff....
Pity about the oldest aboriginal culture in the world though....said to date back 40-60 thousand years?
The Ghost Dance is working now....
in the form of Indian Casinos....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyknBTm_YyM
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of your resourcefulness!
I have it playing through another window....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3eCdM3uS8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8LblYj9AcI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FXoyr_FyFw
America's epitaph?
(And why is this section of the world named after a cartographer who never stepped foot here anywho?)
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... to cool down.
It was pretty clear to me that Ys was making a snarky comment, but Symes immediately launched on his 'I lived there, and now I live here, and here is better' routine.
How do we stop idiots like the good Congresscritter from replaying the unsavory parts of our respective histories?
Y's "snarky" comment was meant to disparage my country. Not all that snarky when taken in proper context.
Since it has only a tenuous connection to the thread (and only if you were attempting to poke at a Brit on the board) I can only assume he is doing this because he wants to play with me, so I smack him back with the facts.
I won't let innuendo and misinformation about my home go unanswered.
Maybe it was snarky, but it's also true. And it's not a swipe at GB anyway, more like a swipe at us 'mericans, or at least the stupid ones with stupid ideas like those from the GOP.
I'm getting tired of Godwin's Law.
You never know when some Fritzs and Jerries are on board here.
And you don't want to piss any Germans off
Why they might whip out a non-binding UN Resolution on your ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg
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I'm tired of Godwin's law, as I see many countries thinking Hitler's blueprint is a great idea, just like this bill: alienate, segregate and ship out. What's different from Hitler?
far left loon >.<
The Government also gave them blankets infected with smallpox. It must be pure bliss to live in the perfection of The Realm. How do they do it? Hillary should have gotten the prize, then we'd have a Queen also.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1088...
Apparently this was the only known contemplated attempt. However, there's always the possibility of unofficial attempts. The problem is even those who did not know about pathogens, or other microorganisms, or lived before the development of germ theory, how hard it was to contain an epidemic/pandemic once it started. So by utilizing Occam's Razor we would probably get the result that the Amerindians who were in contact with us, either as allies or enemies, got infected by that contact, and their bodies weren't conditioned for the new contagion.
Oddly enough, some biologists think Euro's could carry this disease, among others, and not fall ill due to the disease being present in Europe for so long, and because those who survived various plagues, and their descendants developed/inherited stronger physical defenses.
Europeans colonists themselves would fall ill in great numbers though when they tried to push up from South Africa more toward the middle, while the indigenous had natural defenses of their own against what was slaughtering the would be settlers. It would happen again and again to Europeans as they pushed into Asia.
That's part of the reason why we have immigration laws and passports, and restrictions against the importation of certain flora and fauna.
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I think, in fairness, it's more like white European Christians killed the "heathens" and "savages". Plenty of blame to go around!!!! It wasn't just Brits or "new" Americans.
far left loon >.<
My point is each area of the world has it's own peculiar diseases, that they build a resistance to, but if a new comer comes there, or one from their country goes somewhere else, they're exposed to diseases their body has little defenses for.
An official government policy for genocide isn't necessary to explain this.
And you're right about European Christendom; historians can't even begin to estimate how many were killed by Charlemagne's forces for refusing to convert.
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No arguments there, complete agreement!
Pick some major killing time in the last 2000 years and it's a good bet the name of God was being tossed around as justification. Even Pol Pot used it as justification, though he claimed the he was the divine one.
No argument from me.
It seemes there was some discussion about who was guilt(iest), Brits or Americans, and I say everyone that arrived in a (disease ridden) ship, (most clinging to God).
Have you seen the movie, "The Ice Storm"? Christina Ricci is asked to say thanksgiving grace, and she does. (Wonderful: time 1973)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_fDcTAe2jU
far left loon >.<
To clarify, they're sure Charlemagne's forces did kill those who refused to convert.
The story is, whether true or not, they baptised people by holding their heads under water until they either converted or drowned
Not counting those cut down in battle.
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What's next, deporting people of Eurasian or Eastasian decent?
That was the problem with the decision of Korematsu v the United States, written by Hugo Black; he never faulted the relocation policy, because he always seemed to defer to military authority, although he was one of the biggest liberals on the bench; he only said those relocated deserved compensation.
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Perhaps this is a good time to mandate zero travel for American citizens to destinations outside the homeland...
Close 700+ military bases worldwide....
Let other countries nationalize US companies operating within their borders...
Hmmm....how far can we take this...
Then how so ever will we turn the plowshares into swords?
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Western Bloc.
That seems to sum it up nicely, if you ask me. After all, the Iron Curtain was ostensibly designed to keep the enemies of communism and the decadent influences of the West out -- but many if not most of the people living within the Eastern Bloc knew on at least some level that what they were living in far more closely resembled a prison than it did a gated community.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
You can always tell when one of this type of comment comes up, that the speaker is a moron.
They don't stop to think what it would mean if thoses countries returned the favor and banned all Americans.
We are more dependant on their oil they they are on our exports.
We would have to spy and do business by proxy.
It wouldn't stop ill feelings and acts against the US.
Pretty soon we will have no allies, we can't feed ourselves as a nation, more goods, are imported than exported and we are energy dependant.
Everyone else follows or gets dragged into it.
Why? Let me know when you find the answer.
Probably more people are killed everyday by legal handguns than by terrorists.
They want to protect the constitutional right of terrorists to arm themselves.
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...and those other lethal weapons....cars.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
Why don't we introduce a bill in Congress that will revoke the citizenship of those who espouse "conservative" values and deport them to Iran, Iraq, etc?
I've finally found that clip on Youtube I've been periodically checkinig for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AxSpTKE5...
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Once again, the terrorists have won in much of America. Fear governs our policy makers, news media and voting booths.
We are a nation with a political discourse dominated by cowards.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
Fellas/Gals...
We all know this is going nowhere. The idiot is just grandstanding.
The House itself will laugh this off the docket.
How did these morons EVER get into power with "W" in the first place?
I know a couple teabaggers/birchers out here in Colorado and keep asking them, "what constitutional rights are being trampled on that you constantly rant about?"
They NEVER have a coherent response.
Pitiful and pathetic.
trying to get to where Eisenhower wanted....
An alert and knowledgeable citizenry...
too late...
... this goes to the core of things.
It's not grandstanding. It's not a harmless stunt.
It's the very real and honestly felt power of racism and fear.
And the Democrats can't stand firm on the important issues, how the frack will they stand against this? Will Pelosi and Reid 'compromise' so that only SOME immigrants get deported? Maybe we don't have to deport them, we can just put them in camps. Or make them wear yellow crescents.
The Democrats are too weak to censure this kind of behavior or call it out. They'll sweep it under the carpet with a procedural move and pretend it didn't happen.
and bullshit needs to be called out!
First, I wouldn't hold out much hope for our Democratic leaders to stand up to this in an election year if they start polling as"weak on terror" just as they were perfectly OK with the Patriot Act, FISA and numerous other fun things.
Second, while you are most likely correct that it's just grandstanding, they could still do similar things as a "compromise" like they always do. If an empty gesture can help funnel taxpayer dollars toward a campaign contributor, you know any policy is possible.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
This is how it starts. Plant the idea in people's minds: "we'd be safer if we just segregated certain populations". Commenters like garcia, from yesterday's open thread (which I just came from), would think this is a fabulous idea. Then they start talking about it, and crowds of bumpkins fire up their one brain cell, start making (illiterate) signs and march in Washington.
Since when have the Dems played tough with the GOP? They comprimise 90% and see the 10% they get as victory.
far left loon >.<
I knew you could.
This is repulsive.
And, yet, part of me wonders if this is simply what needs to happen - that the racists and thugs need to be thrown into the spotlight for the world to see and really understand that they are not a joke, they are not a 'small minority' - they've been here for generations, and they have nothing to bring to the table.
Much like the Republicans under whose umbrella they hide.
This is exactly what Nazi Germany and the USSR held in common, they both had legal codes that were perfectly fine, but they added a political crimes section. That's how you end up in the alley with a bullet in the back of your head like Saddam Hussein did in 1968-69, when he held meetings with the Baathists and just started denouncing fellow members as traitors and they were summarily executed.
That's one of the reasons I was curious as to why we got rid of the Baathists entirely from power; I'm sure there are some old guards who resent Saddam, and some New Bloods who resented his autocratic rule.
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Americans won't fly off into a revolutionary rage.
Korea still has that law. The National Security Act. They just have to say you have N. Korean leanings/sympathies and you're done for. For being a "democratic" country, I still wonder about a lot of stuff that goes on here.
far left loon >.<
Then how will I be able to get my favorite Khoresht Ghormeh Sabzii?
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Obviously Grisham Barrett needs to venture out of his country hamlet and do some wandering around the country. There are so many people in this country who are going to school, who are visiting relatives, working. They are not all terrorists. Does this guy have a clue? The ones that want to stay hidden are going to do so.
Jeanne
...our [s]elected officials can do dumb like no one else. The dumb started in earnest in 1860. Before that they were just evil. We may have taken the cake with this fucknut wingtard.
Seriously?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-...
Jon Stewart showed us last August all the crazy coming from that state and THIS just makes it worse for that state. Don't they proudly display the Confederate Flag on the state capitol still?
They just love to justify their racism in any way they can it seems, but I'm sure this sentiment isn't limited to South Carolina.
We're not all racists, nor stupid. The flag is off the statehouse dome, and stands on the grounds. That passes for progressive movement in SC. Of course it still proudly adorns a majority of redneck pickups.
Pity those of us who rage into the wind.
I know I do when:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs
Gets too hot.
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I was thinking along more existential lines...
It's still on the grounds and again I ask, why? It's a symbol of slavery and of a group that betrayed the United States of America. You can't claim absolute patriotism of the USA if your party is instrumental in keeping a symbol like that displayed still on even the capital grounds of your state.
I agree with you totally. It's an execrable symbol of what we should not be, and a constant reminder of the banality of evil. The why part? There are a thousand answers, and not one good one.
Actually it's the cross of St Andrew, the flag of Scotland. The union of the cross of St Andrew, and the cross of St Michael became the Union Jack as we know it, dating back to when Northern Ireland joined the union and was adopted in 1801.
However, the confederate flag's coloration and use of stars, reminiscent of Old Glory, make it distinctive.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ww...
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But, yes. It does lean towards that interpretation.
Being that a lot of Scots were slave owners in the south back in those days.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
And a lot of Scots Irish, which I believe means they came from Northern Ireland.
However that would explain the name Ku Klux (theorized to be the Gk kyklos [circle] pronounced kiklo), and Klan, a deliberate misspelling of Clan. The Scots were known to call the clans together for battle by erecting a burning cross.
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What was the question again? "Why do they hate us ?" Hmm! so difficult to figure - not.
Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.
This man can't be serious, surely? A response like this is completely out of proportion to the size of the problem. This is about on a par with an oncologist recommending the amputation of a patient's arm in response to finding a malignant growth on the skin of the hand -- the first line of attack should be a scalpel, not a bone saw. To punish an entire nation of people for the beliefs and actions of a violent few is not only completely insane and patently absurd, but also unbelievably unjust as well -- and if this country were to adopt such a policy, we should hardly be surprised if other countries decided to protest by banning Americans from traveling to their countries (especially given the rather militant manner in which we have often chosen to express our foreign policy over the past few decades). I for one do not want to see this country slowly turned into the Western Bloc...
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
...that neither "Yemen" nor "Pakistan" are currently designated a "terrorist countries"?
I'd just LOVE to see how those countries might react if we "officially" designated them as "terrorist countries".
What about Iraq? Them too?
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
all of the potential countries which could 'blowback'....
Really, I mean, how many Cuban 'terrists have showed up at Key Biscayne lately?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
On how many Cuba Libre's you've had. Gotta watch those Libre Cubano's/
What is your conceptual, continuity?
...that bill will effectively shutdown the companies that provide wheelchair assistants, magazine store clerks, building cleaners, and the food court workers.
That just means more "good paying jobs" for 'Mericuns.
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
Let's send all the Alaskans home too.
Maybe a bill to keep Texans out of 'Merica too?
far left loon >.<
I'm Texan.
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I was just being "rowdy".
Sorry.
far left loon >.<
Rowdy?
me-oww!
Wipe the drool off your chin, Miss Kitty
What would Marshall Dillon think?
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Yer Bunzz a Flexxin? :)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
They called this sort of thing a "Pogrom". What have we become, that a Congressman of the United States calls for that abominable practice which brought so many of our citizens here?
I'm not. I've been saying for years that the eliminationist rhetoric which has increasingly been spewing forth from the right wing over the last decade is exactly the sort which frequently (although thankfully not always) precedes internal purges and genocides. Once one group of people within a society starts insisting that every member of another group is untrustworthy and therefore does not deserve to have certain rights, the step from there to full-out purge is actually a very small one. After all, it's not as if it's never happened here before...remember the Japanese internment camps during World War II? A fair question to ask is...why didn't we do the same thing to citizens of German or Italian descent? True, there were many more of them which may have been one reason...but that by itself does not sufficiently explain or justify the fact that the Japanese-American community was singled out and that Japanese-Americans who showed no signs of being disloyal to the United States were merely by virtue of their ethnic origins treated as suspicious.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
right wing Californians coveting the property of the Japanese also saw this a good way to confiscate their holdings. Interestingly, a rather small number of Japanese were interned in Hawaii where they made up a larger segment of the population.
...all the more meaningful. My mother's aunt, who lived in California most of her life, agreed to watch over the property owned by a Japanese-American family who were being sent to the camps. Thanks to her, they had something to come home to unlike many other families who lost their property as a result of being interned.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
It must not have been easy to do.
That was very honourbale, and more simply, correct. Would that everyone could be so sincere.
far left loon >.<
US foreign policy is eliminationist too.
"All we need to do to correct the Terrorist Problem is kill the bad guys."
Sadly it seems this is also Mr. Obama's policy.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
That's precisely one of the reasons why I said what I did in my post on this thread about the danger of actually enacting such an insane policy...the potential that other countries will protest by ejecting and/or deporting all American citizens from within their borders and banning any American citizens from traveling there due to the rather militant nature in which we've often chosen to express our foreign policy.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
Why don't we just burn all immigrants like the Nazis did? Just think of all the money we'd save and new jobs it would create. Republicans, keep on winning the hearts and minds of immigrants.
Officials Hid Truth About Immigrant Deaths in Jail
By NINA BERNSTEIN
Published: January 9, 2010
Silence has long shrouded the men and women who die in the nation’s immigration jails. For years, they went uncounted and unnamed in the public record. Even in 2008, when The New York Times obtained and published a federal government list of such deaths, few facts were available about who these people were and how they died.
But behind the scenes, it is now clear, the deaths had already generated thousands of pages of government documents, including scathing investigative reports that were kept under wraps, and a trail of confidential memos and BlackBerry messages that show officials working to stymie outside inquiry.
The documents, obtained over recent months by The Times and the American Civil Liberties Union under the Freedom of Information Act, concern most of the 107 deaths in detention counted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement since October 2003, after the agency was created within the Department of Homeland Security.
The Obama administration has vowed to overhaul immigration detention, a haphazard network of privately run jails, federal centers and county cells where the government holds noncitizens while it tries to deport them.
But as the administration moves to increase oversight within the agency, the documents show how officials — some still in key positions — used their role as overseers to cover up evidence of mistreatment, deflect scrutiny by the news media or prepare exculpatory public statements after gathering facts that pointed to substandard care or abuse.
More here.
There's a whole lot more here.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The Dallas Jail system has a habit of ignoring the pleas of dangerously ill prisoners, one of which I know of developed a huge hernia with no treatment.
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Thanks for posting that, mudshark!
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
I saved it.
I've been noticing for some time that since ray gunn our penile system has been more about punishment than reform, and it's been getting worse since boosh.
I'm surprised they haven't had to change the term penitentiary. The term comes from penitent and sounds a tad too religious.
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I can only speculate that Obama appointed this person w/o any previous knowledge of any of this.
I don't believe he would have appointed her (Nina Dozoretz) if he had known.
I also remind myself of how secretive the previous admin was.
Beyond that? I have no idea. I'm sure some people here will latch onto this and ride it for all it's worth.
But then again, it doesn't take much to get them all riled up.
N Dozoretz was/is Head of the "Division of Immigration Health Services".
I expect her to be sent packing in the near future.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
We should be riled up. In conservative-land, they probably see these non-citizens as not being protected by the Constitution. Hordes would most likely agree.
Let's be honest about the nature of the people we're talking about.
far left loon >.<
That's why I posted the link.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
DEPORT ALL SOUTH CAROLINIAN CONGRESSMEN
.. maybe that would help ..
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Fuck it,
DEPORT ALL REPUBLICANS!
Why can't we just bar congresscritters from red states (SC, OK, AL, MS, Kansas) from proposing any legislation relating to complex issues of national security or foreign relations? Seriously, these guys are in way over their heads.
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
No...I think the more appropriate phrase would be "out of their minds"!!!
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
we would all be deported. Then they could have their land back.
.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Betcha those dumbass's didn't think of that.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
They assisted the Bin Ladin family in leaving this country really fast. I think it was tried also with Timothy McVeigh's people also but it didn't take.
They old back dues to their trailer park association?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This is America ? Well yah. F*cking INSANITY.
Somebody find Gresham Barrett and tell him he doesn't deserve his position let alone to call himself an American for this kind of fascistic BS.
People from some countries need to apply for visas to enter the United States. If they (State Department?) are doing their job correctly, there is no need to ban all citizens from said countries. Processing the visa is a background check, with in-person interviews as needed, and it can take a very long time.
One of my friends does that job for the US. He used to be here in Seoul, then Tokyo. People like him already do this. It is slow, painstaking work sometimes.
far left loon >.<
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What...
... No exception for families with the Sir name of Bin Laden?
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
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R E M E M B E R:
America used to stand against such creeping evils...
... Now, She is saddled with leaders who extol such creeping evils.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
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Dear Congressman Gresham Barrett (R-SC),
Here's a primer of what the next steps are...
... http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/
It's a pager turner.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
Can't we just let them sucede? I mean...they have the worst nutballs in Congress...and seems the ones NOT in Congress are just as ignorant and hypocritical.
Enough is enough. If they are going to stay in the Union, then at least make them take their politicians OUT of Washington DC.
They'd made fine Nazis wouldn't they ?
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
We all know that the new improved Republican Party is trended towards being both smaller and whiter. A significant portion of the Republican Party would like to see the United Nations gone from our shores, or even just gone, period. But it is with the exchange of diplomats, students, cultural events, and tourists that helps nations to broaden their areas of understanding, as well as foster peace between peoples.
One cannot help but draw the conclusion that this politician fears any exchange of ideas between peoples, perhaps a subconscious acknowledgement that the USA no longer has ideas or ideals that can withstand international scrutiny, much like our toxic Wall Street CDOs and CDSs.
Giving up on such exchanges is far more than mere isolationist, because the one thing that this country is most closely associated with throughout its history has been international trade. Instead, the actions that this Republican politician would have the USA engage in is tantamount to a prelude to war. Unfortunately, this laundry list of banished foreign nationals sounds much more like a new bombing list, and that is just bat-shit crazy.
(ed. oops, posted in the wrong place ...)
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
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