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The meme had been brewing for a few days among some of the Fox News guests -- particularly Michelle Malkin -- brought on to talk about the Fort Hood shootings, but it was Bill Sammon, during the broadcast of the memorial for the slain soldiers, who apparently made it official at Fox: The Fort Hood shootings were a terrorist attack -- comparable to 9/11 and Oklahoma City -- by a radical Islamist engaged in Muslim "jihad."

Now, it's not only the conventional wisdom at Fox News, it's one of their major attack points -- they're claiming that because President Obama and the rest of the media aren't adopting their presumptuous and hysterical meme, they're being "soft" on terrorism.

The meme gained momentum when Glenn picked up Sammon's ball and ran with it the next day, declaring: "If you don't call [Hasan] a terrorist, it clears a path for ... an extremist terrorist plan." That night, Sean Hannity explored the question at length with Michelle Malkin, as you can see from the video atop this post.

For Malkin and Hannity, "political correctness" -- which they blame for the military's failure to stop Hasan -- is actually code for "the refusal to engage in ethnic and religious profiling". Because such profiling, it's clear, is what they think the military (and the government generally) should do to prevent future such shootings.

The worst offender, though, has been Bill O'Reilly, who -- as you can see below -- not only harangued Sally Quinn for her reluctance to declare Nidal Hasan a "terrorist," but then devoted his leadoff Talking Points Memo segment last night to chastising the president and the rest of the media for their reluctance to embrace the meme.

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This exchange with Quinn was especially revealing:

O'Reilly: But you have a hard time saying the words "Muslim terrorist," and so does Obama. He has a hard time saying it. I don't know why you guys aren't saying it. You know, why, why?

Quinn: Well, I think, first of all, there are different kinds of terrorists. As I said, Timothy McVeigh --

O'Reilly: He's a Muslim terrorist! What do you mean, different kinds of terrorist? He killed people under the banner of jihad! That's who he is! What do you -- look, what do you want, him to come to your house with a strap-on bomb? The guy did it for jihadist reasons! "Allah Akbar!" That's the slogan! He mails Al Qaeda! Miss Quinn, you're a brilliant woman, and I'm not saying that facetiously. You are. A third-grader gets this, and you're resisting it! I wanna know why!

Quinn: Bill, you're making a very good case. I mean, he's Muslim, and he may well end up being a terrorist. We don't know for sure --

O'Reilly: I know for sure! Ninety percent of the people watching me know for sure! I don't know why you don't know for sure! What else do you need?

Quinn: I mean, you can call the guy who blew up -- you know, who shot up the Holocaust Museum a terrorist --

O'Reilly: Did he yell "Allah Akbar?" If he yelled "Allah Akbar," and he e-mailed Al Qaeda in Yemen, I'd call him that, Miss Quinn!

Quinn: OK, he's a Muslim terrorist.

O'Reilly: Thank you.

O'Reilly seems to have a peculiar idea of what constitutes "terrorism." His definition of the word seems to be "any act of violence by devout Muslims", or something along those lines.

That, of course, is quite a distance from the the legal definition of terrorism (from U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)):

(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;

This term, in fact, perfectly describes Holocaust Museum shooter James Von Brunn, who was, beyond any serious doubt, a classic right-wing "lone wolf" terrorist.

It is in fact still not clear, however, whether the description fits Nidal Hasan's motives in shooting 13 people to death. It is true that all kinds of evidence is emerging showing that Hasan was increasingly becoming politically radicalized.

What that evidence doesn't establish, though, is that he engaged in this horrendous act on behalf of those radical beliefs, or whether those beliefs simply formed part of the context in which he acted. There certainly haven't been any organizational ties established. We probably won't have any idea until Hasan himself starts talking, or at least his attorneys begin preparing his defense.

It's important to remember what mass-murder profiler Pat Brown told Fox's Brian Kilmeade:

Brown: Well, Brian, actually, I think religion does not play a role in this. What we're actually looking at is a typical mass murderer.

Mass murderers are either two age groups. They are either teenagers, who are disgruntled with where they are in life, and don't think they're going to be anything -- those teenagers that say 'I'm being bullied and nobody likes me, and so let me take everybody out -- or they're middle-aged men who are going downhill in life -- they're having problems with people, personality issues, you know, going up against authority. For whatever reasons, they're failing, and then when they start failing they have to find something to hang their hat on, they have to blame something.

So he happened to pick what he picked. But I don't think it really has anything to do with him being Muslim or any kind of "jihad." I think he just wanted to kill people and this was his excuse.

Kilmeade: Well, he did yell out, "Allah," that's kind of an odd thing to yell out for somebody who was just unhappy with his success in life.

Brown: But he was already going downhill. He's a psychopath, and that -- he's gonna say something.

We should also keep in mind that other evidence points to the likelihood that Hasan's rampage was triggered not by Islamic radicalism but by rage at his fellow soldiers:

-- He was regularly abused by his colleagues in the military for being Muslim -- called a "raghead" and other such terms -- and had been seeking to get out of the military because the environment had become so hostile.

... There are also reports that he had recently been the victim of a hate crime: His car was vandalized, with the word "Allah" scratched into the paint, and he was reportedly extremely upset by it.

In other words, the Fort Hood shootings may well turn out to be a Columbine-like case of psychotic rage, rather than an ideological or political act of terrorism. And that's why people -- including the president -- are reluctant to make Fox's leap of judgment.

They may turn out to be right. But even if so, it doesn't excuse they broad-brushed, and destructive, fearmongering against an entire ethnic or religious group that their leap represents. And if they're wrong, then it will be too late to undo the damage they've already inflicted on Muslims serving in the U.S. military, unfairly tarring them with their presumptive brush.

The right, as we've noted, has been looking for excuses to scapegoat Muslims and Arabs with racial profiling for a long time -- since at least 9/11. Some of you may recall such previous incidents of hysteria as the various claims by hysterical right-wing nutcases on airline flights that their fellow Muslim passengers were secret terrorists preparing for another attack -- such as Annie Jacobson's flight of xenophobic fancy back in 2004.

As I noted then:

This has happened before in America. In the spring of 1942, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, a similar kind of racial hysteria swept the Pacific Coast, focusing suspicion on anyone of Japanese descent, playing on long-established conspiracist beliefs that the Nikkei immigrants were traitors in waiting.

... The end result of this hysteria, of course, was that we violated the constitutional rights of some 120,000 Japanese-Americans, over 70,000 of them citizens, by rounding them up en masse and incarcerating them for the war's duration in concentration camps.

It's fitting, of course, that Malkin -- who penned an entire book defending this internment of an entire ethnic group based on hysterical fears, largely in pursuit of her thesis that racial, ethnic and religious profiling is perfectly justifiable in the post-9/11 world. Malkin has never dropped this theme, embarking at one time on an attempt at organizing vigilante "watchers" to keep an eye on the evil Muslims in our midst.

Of course, as I and many others explained at the time, all that the Japanese internment episode really demonstrated was the utter futility and waste -- not to mention the gross insult to the Constitution -- that such profiling actually represents:

Would racial profiling of Muslims and Arabs really gain us anything, security-wise, in the long run? And would any of it be worth the price?

Michelle Malkin would have us think it would. Her case, though, is built on faulty method, faulty logic, faulty "facts", and an obviously faulty moral compass. Her book is best left shunned, untouched, and eventually, ignored.

Unfortunately, it will not be, at least as far as the "conservative movement" is concerned. Even if utterly discredited, Malkin's meme will continue to recirculate among the Fox News right, as well as more extremist elements. At some point it will become "received wisdom" as a talking point for right-wing pundits and radio talk-show hosts.

Well, now it has. And the national discourse, as a result, is headed in a bad direction indeed.

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Doesn't the dumb Reslug whore, Malkin, know that everytime she shows her disfigured, ugly face, people run to puke.

LysergicAsset2's picture

make her the perfect right-wing mouthpiece, but I don't understand why the Aryan nation that is the Republican party has accepted such an obviously third-world representative.

Pawn's picture

that's the only logical answer

but reading this I would say salacious BS. Yes, we have had American terrorism--think McVeigh and Krueters in the '90's to name two but this man was mentally ill and should not have been protected by the medical code of Honor among thieves! The screeching malkin/ et al, accusations have more to do with the malfeasance of the Cheney /neo-cons than the prosecution of the perpetrators! Sadly, willfull ignorance is a fact of life on the right side of the aisle.

Ignore her --the ratings support it! Stupid and ugly but acknowledged to be a form of the 'failure of the Country as opposed to the good of all'

jmmartin's picture

Heh, heh, I think these things not only of Malkin, but Laura Graham, Coltergeist, and all the rest of them. But I am thinking, perhaps my socialist beliefs have a way of influencing my sensory reception such that the arguably attractive extremist right spokespersons get screened into my consciousness as hydras, Medusa, gargoyles, &c. Isn't it possible that, to a Repub, Ed Schultz looks like a big fat idiot?


"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez

Jeanne's picture

It was a crime that needs to be prosecuted. That's how we need to think about it. If we make it into a O J Simpson extravaganza we will lose our way. It was a crime.

The terrorists suspects in New York. It must be look at as a crime. Don't give it Faux News flag flying triple digit news rating. It makes it more than what it is, a crime.


Jeanne

"If we label it terrorism than we can say an act of terrorism occured on Obama's watch." Therefor we are less safe with liberals. Wait and see.

Blue Lensman's picture

"The Democrat Party can't keep you safe!"

who told us how Bush had kept us safe by presiding over the worst terrorist attack on US soil.

Handypants's picture
but

Unless the president ignored a PDB saying "Hasan determined to attack . . ." - Bush still wins the "less safe" label.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

willpen's picture

You have hit the nail on the head. The wingnuts are just laying in wait to use any situation against Obama. They can now claim that Bush kept us safe since 9/11, but Obama could not.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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FOXPRAVDA is NOT a News Network...
... FOXPRAVDA is a Political Station.

(it just occasionally reports some news)

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

LaoTsu's picture

From Wikipedia:

This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when they want to praise a speaker, during battles, and even during times of extreme stress or euphoria.

Pawn's picture

Seems to meet the use of the term for either a battle, or because of extreme stress or euphoria.

Based on the legal definition of terrorism, this case appears to qualify as such. It's uncertain until we know what push Hasan over the edge, but the actions themselves are terroristic. If they are not, then it is either an act of war, or an act of a man that was neglected by military leadership and allowed to be a threat though his state of mind was already known (aka military negligence).

Once they get in and start getting some answers from him, we are all speculating. We really don't know anything yet about his motives. This FOX, CNN, MSNBC crap is why I don't pay for cable. They are wrong a large percentage of the time while they are awaiting on sound facts, but need to fill airtime with mindless garble.

Abbybwood's picture

Maybe I'm behind on the news, but it turns out that the female police officer did not bring down Hasan after all. Apparently after she was hit by him he was re-loading and it was actually Sgt. Mark Todd who shot him four times:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/...

Plus, I thought this was interesting regarding Fox News declaring "cyberwar" on liberal blogs like Crooksandliars:

http://gawker.com/5403691/fox-news-declares-c...


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

By definition, this cannot be a terrorist attack since it is directed at military targets (see the quote from the US Code in the original post).

Jeanne's picture

We can buy into the bs of Faux news or we can ignore it. People died because one man went nuts and started shooting. End of story. Mothers and fathers lost their child. Children lost their mothers and fathers. And we lost honorable Americans.

They shouldn't become part of a ratings campaign and if I was anybody but Faux I would be reminding faux on a moment to moment basis that they were wrong to make it a ratings campaign.

I would challenge them very sincerely on their statistics because any falsehood concerning this crime is a crime against the dead. They deserve their peace and the honor in objective and serious reporting. In other words...if it ain't news don't put it on the air.


Jeanne

virtue's picture

I wonder why there has to be a "legal" definition of terrorism. What could possibly be wrong with the common definition? Very interesting.

Sarah Palin and the other uber-cons say Scott Roeder's killing of Dr. George Tiller was just dandy, done in the name of thier God. And even rally financial support...

http://crooksandliars.com/node/32318/print

The "commmon" definition (at least among academics) before the rightwing demonization of Muslims was essentially the same as the current legal definition. The wrongwing has shifted and broadened that common meaning.

Terrible's picture

because there are legal definitions of ALL crimes. Sheeeesh! what country are you from? One without laws?

healthcarenow's picture

Why can't these Muslim communities institute sharia law in their communities? They let wacky christians have compounds where their leaders can abuse children and women and no one does a thing. The complaints about this non terrorist at Fort Hood has all of the right wing nuts screaming for blood. This Muslim was ostracised and degraded by bigots and now he will be paraded around in kangaroo court and maybe executed. Holder should stop this bs now and help this person get professional counseling instead of trying to make a name for himself at the expense of the entire Muslim community.

Andy K's picture

The Attorney General and the DoJ aren't party to the proceedings. It's a court martial, so it's all under the perview of the serviceman's branch- in this case, the Army.

"Why can't these Muslim communities institute sharia law in their communities?"

Because the USA... according to our Constitution, is a secular nation. Though sometimes you may be surprised?

We are not ruled by mystics... or at least some of us aren't. :-/


Study the symptoms not the virus...

healthcarenow's picture

their communities, why not muslims? Seems a little prejudicial. If they choose to live within the confines of that religious community, it's their right. Separate church and state, no?

Truth_Critic's picture
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Would their community happen to be in one of the United States?

Now if they wanted to invest in a compound type facility like David Koresh had in Waco, Texas, or Jim Jones of "The Peoples Temple" fame... granted his was in northwestern Guyana, have at it.

God forbid this fine nation mimic the west-bank. :-/ "Pun intended"

Amended: The key issue is whether the "community" is public or private property and adhere to state and federal laws... ultimately the U.S. Constitution.


Study the symptoms not the virus...

SpookyMulder's picture

talk less and suckle more (lalalala-lalalala-lalalala)

Old Billy's picture

No comments from the C&L crowd about O'Reilly's musings about a "strap-on bomb"?

It takes the lowest of bottom dwellers to use the deaths of our finest to advance a political agenda like this.

/Fox News
//Nothing is too low.


Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.

Old Billy's picture

When you deduce the motive for a racist, sexist, or otherwise bigoted white person and label his/her crime a "hate crime," it's called a "thought crime". On the other hand, you have to be crazy or not as smart as a third-grader to make the assessment for a brown guy with a foreign-sounding name.

I can't decide if Malkin, Hannity, and O'Reilly are all hypocrites or if they just can't think their way out of a paper bag.

Congaree's picture

They are all as dumb as a box of hair, and we are all a little dumber for listening to that which dribbles out of their self righteous pie-holes....

Handypants's picture
but

Their abject hatred for the president is fungible - the hate is ductile and conforms to any set of facts or non-facts Faux decides to spew.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Old Billy's picture

Another Republican congressmember is leaking information from the intelligence committee trying to connect this guy to Pakistan or Al Qaeda (or maybe Allah himself). Why can't they just let the investigation proceed?

And if this were a terrorist attack, aren't all those d-bags supposed to rally around our President in a time of war?

Liberalicious's picture

And if this were a terrorist attack, aren't all those d-bags supposed to rally around our President in a time of war?

EXACTLY

Blue Mark's picture

We had two horrible shooting sprees last week. In both of them a disgruntled employee (or ex-employee) went to his work place and shot a number of fellow workers, causing death and serious injury.

The shootings at Ft. Hood by Major Hasan are being described as Islamic Terrorism.

Yet the shootings in Orlando by Jason Rodriguez are not being described as "Catholic Terrorism" by anyone, even though the circumstances are so similar.

Was either really terrorism? - Terrorism is political violence committed against civilians. Only in Orlando were the victims civilians.

researcher's picture

time to bomb iran as they are all terrorists. plus they have more oil than iraq. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

americans love their wars

war on drugs, war on poverty,war on terror, war on the middle class, etc

americans dont care much about how they take care of their own sick and needy but give them a war

this is a religious thing

this world wont be happy until the christians and the muslims fight it out like the jews and the muslims are.

both sides are self righteous and think they have the only path to their heaven.

take your choice 72 virgins or play a harp on a cloud.

I really like harp music but I am an old guy. maybe the only old guy in america that does not watch fox news.

my generation became a truly very selfish self righteous generation. who knew after the sixties. but that was about the draft not the killing of a million vietnamese.

once the draft was gone so were the protests.

maybe those muslims are on to something with the 72 virgin thing in heaven as it is the fastest growing religion in the world.

offer a male ego centered world a heaven with 72 virgins and you can really grow your attendance on sundays.

Dhalgren's picture

Funny - I don't remember the wingnuts of accusing the Post Office of being politically correct in their failure to discover and prevent mass murders on their properties in the 1980s and 1990s.

I don't remember 'political correctness' being blamed for the failure of the TSA, FBI, CIA, and NSA to prevent 19 hijackers from attacking this country.

And in the case of Oklahoma City, the Clinton administration, like the current one, was being accused of anything but political correctness. They were being accused of conspiring to bring the UN to the heartland and take away the guns of law abiding rural citizens. Tim McVeigh believed that very strongly. The Patriot / Militia / White Supremacist / Anti-Abortion movement still does.

Something happened since those events. Oh yes.....a black man with an islamic name is now president. The wingnuttery may increase now.

Handypants's picture

"The wingnuttery may increase now."

I fear it never will.

The issues might have been different if HRC was president but I feel it is safe to assume the crop of crazy would sound about as insane.

UGH!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

I throw things out of my ass too

I call it crap.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Truth_Critic's picture

:P


Study the symptoms not the virus...

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

That's a rather old technique for a cinematographical segue.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

MinuteMan's picture

(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;

T...

It is in fact still not clear, however, whether the description fits Nidal Hasan's motives

Since the targets of his attack were certainly combatants Hasan clearly does not fit the definition that was provided from the US Code.

Truth_Critic's picture

terrorism / ter·ror·ism

1. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
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"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

--Albert Einstein


Study the symptoms not the virus...

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

The problem was booshco split the definitions, between terrorism and act of war.

If it was an act or war, it would mean a nation was behind it; we would need Congress to declare war, not an AUMF, and that would make the Geneva Convention's relevance clearly intact, but possibly military tribunals could hear cases.

If it was none of these then it was a criminal act, and would require criminal prosecution, with recognizable civil rights, in a civilian court, which is what Eric Holder is trying to do with at least some of the Guantanomo prisoners.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

MinuteMan's picture

They also left out any possibility of "state" terrorism.

Terrible's picture

we know what nations army he belonged to. We should begin a bombing campaign against the USA now.

Most academics (there is some variability) reserve the term for attacks on civilian targets. They normally use terms like "guerrilla tactics" or the like for attacks on military targets.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Banana peels are WMD's?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

No, no, no. Those are the gorilla tactics.

MinuteMan's picture

n/t

un-edited → "Ali" stated that "War is against the teachings of the Holy Qur'an. I'm not trying to dodge the draft. We are not supposed to take part in no wars unless declared by Allah or The Messenger. We don't take part in Christian wars or wars of any unbelievers."
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"The Fort Hood shootings were a terrorist attack -- comparable to 9/11 and Oklahoma City -- by a radical Islamist engaged in Muslim "jihad.""

"In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same." --Albert Einstein
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"Evil is always devising more corrosive misery through man's restless need to exact revenge out of his hate." --Ralph Steadman


Study the symptoms not the virus...

MountainMan23's picture

Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!

Kreskin's picture

Terrorist , not a terrorist , arguing over the definition of , what the hell difference does it make ? Enough already . We know what happened , what he did , we know his back ground , OK , prosecute the murderer and make sure this doesn't happen again , that a guy like this isn't likely to be " over looked " in the future . As far as what the crossed eyed guppy Malkin says , BFD , she's just a Coulter wanna be and just like Coulter should be ignored .

Savagewinston's picture

..Fox News would report if the next "terrorist act" has "Christian" ties?

MinuteMan's picture

n/t

Handypants's picture

Why or how does Faux get the label conservative?

What is conservative about Faux?


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )


Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!

luis stoole's picture

accidental news and limits the facts to the commercials breaks

Bluestocking's picture

It is true that all kinds of evidence is emerging showing that Hasan was increasingly becoming politically radicalized.

What that evidence doesn't establish, though, is that he engaged in this horrendous act on behalf of those radical beliefs, or whether those beliefs simply formed part of the context in which he acted. There certainly haven't been any organizational ties established. We probably won't have any idea until Hasan himself starts talking, or at least his attorneys begin preparing his defense.

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One question that still seems worth asking is whether or not there were any indications that Hasan held radical beliefs prior to 9-11. At least one report which I read shortly after the shooting took place indicated that Hasan enlisted prior to 9-11, but that he has since 9-11 been subjected to anti-Arab and anti-Muslim prejudice from his colleagues. It's not my intention to suggest that Hasan's actions are justified -- far from it -- but the fact is that it's by no means unusual for people who feel rejected or harassed to react by becoming defensive (or even deliberately confrontational) and dismissing in turn anything which they associate with the people whom they perceive as rejecting or harassing them. When you insist on viewing and treating other people as if they are your enemies, they often end up obliging you in the end by rejecting you in turn and becoming your enemy even if it was not their original intention -- "since you're going to accuse me anyway, I might as well do the things you accuse me of." Actually, in an environment such as the military where any sign of weakness leaves you open to ridicule, I'm inclined to suspect that this response is even more likely than in some other places. If the stories are true, I don't think it's impossible that the antipathy of his colleagues could have contributed to a renewed devotion to Islam on Hasan's part, a growing disillusionment with American values as represented by his colleagues (he has apparently been choosing to wear traditional clothing while off duty), and perhaps at last an interest in more radical forms of Islam which are opposed to American governmental and military policy. If so, it's a pity and a tragedy...because Hasan has not only made it that much more likely that other American Muslims serving in the military will be regarded with suspicion and possibly subjected to harassment purely on the basis of their faith, he has apparently become the very thing which he allegedly resents his colleagues for accusing him of being.


Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.

On this subject I don't give a damn what O'Reilly or Malkin or the admitted liar Hannity thinks. Their collective thoughts are meaningless and have no credibility.

"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."

--Albert Einstein

Lets get this over with and get prepared for the next crazy killer(s). :-/

PS. Do ya think if Jesus was killed during the last century, Christians would be wearing little nooses or electric-chair's... around their necks? :P


Study the symptoms not the virus...

In the event that this does turn out to have been a political act of terror and given the utter hysteria of the right and their insistence that this is nothing less than a clash of civilizations on an epic scale,wouldn't this tragedy seem a tad anti-climatic?
One guy?Come on Bill O I want serious four horsemen type stuff,lot's of cool explosions,the theme from the Omen inexplicably blasting away in the back ground,and huge armies massing on the borders etc.
Maybe some flying monkeys..


"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "

-Jack Handy

chris_joseph's picture

They're setting this up to be a "terrorist attack" on Pres. Obama's watch. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney kept us safe, don't you know?

Truth_Critic's picture

... "The U.S. Justice Department announced they have filed a suit to seize three mosques and a building in New York City". :-O
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"And fight in the cause of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out..."

Most people usually only quote the first part... Here's the entire passage:

Amended: "In fact, some Muslim rulers actually discouraged conversion, because they preferred collecting the poll tax." :-/


Study the symptoms not the virus...

...Dr. Tiller, was not a terrorist.

Clearly, the difference is simply O'Reilly's own personal bigotries.

Truth_Critic's picture

... thank you Cat Atomic √


Study the symptoms not the virus...

bonsai pajamas's picture

will say about her critics that they just dislike her because she doesn't fit the stereotype of what liberals believe the brown skinned daughter of immigrants should be. I don't even know if there is such a stereotype but I do know Malkin has no problem with stereotyping people. She does it with Muslims all the time. This isn't a free speech issue -- the shit Malkin and her cronies say is going to get some innocent people killed. O'Reilly has already gotten someone killed. That's why they have to be shut down. They don't have the right to incite people to commit murder, free speech or not.

Anybody else noticed that O'Lielly is looking and aging like an 80 yr. old man with every Faux Noise lie??

Donaldd's picture

Let's start calling every Terrorist by their Religious leanings; it's the only right thing to do.
Christian Terrorist Timothy McVeigh
Christian Terrorist James Von Brunn
Who was that Christian Terrorist we now protect from extradition who while working for the CIA blew up a commercial airplane and killed more than 300 civilians in Cuba?
Not to mention those 26 Christian Terrorists who were convicted in absentia by an Italian Court recently.
So on and so forth.

That way we balance the scales of justice and outrage from Wing Nuts.


Donaldd

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Krueg9651's picture

Every time I see Malkin that's what I have to keep telling myself.

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