Post Debate Wrap Up: A Tale Of Two Dial Polls
Norah O'Donnell was in Kansas City, Missouri during the debate yesterday with a panel of undecided voters. Their responsiveness to the candidates on the specific issues of McCain's invoking of Bill Ayers and Obama's tying McCain to George Bush was emblematic of the greater take on the debate as a whole.
Look at the red line signifying registered Republicans. As McCain goes on the attack about Ayers, it drops below the horizon into negative territory, side by side with the Independent vote. As the voter O'Donnell interviewed said, the whole Ayers issue has been dealt with and it's just beating a dead horse.
But more telling, look at that same red Republican line when Obama says that the country can't afford another 8 years of Bush policies. Up, up, up! No matter how petulantly McCain tries to distance himself from Bush, it's clear that the voters aren't buying it for a minute.
Nyah nyah!
:)
But after seeing how Fox can lie their fucking asses off to get a candidate elected, I don't believe shit any of them say.
It'd be nice if what I like to hear is true, but I'm hugely skeptical.
That said, I'm voting for Obama.
Yeah, HuffPo posted about huge robocalling by the RNC using hysterical Ayers-baiting as its message. Liar liar Depends on fire. I hate myself for stooping to agism but dammit, that guy's OLD. And he's not well.
HEY! I'm old and unwell, myself...doesn't mean that I'm stupid enough to vote Republican!
And I'm definitely not wealthy enough;)
Checkm out a review of the debate along with a video compilation of McCain's bizarre facial ticks and expressions: http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/pre...
As McCain's choice of running mate reminds everyone that she is more Bush than Bush himself, with her hateful mean-spiritedness self-righteous "Christianity", her stubborness, her outright lying and not-quite mastery of the English language, a McCain-Palin ticket just reinforces the concept of "more of the same".
Still trying to digest previous post regarding outright racism, but this focus group was actually pretty boring. They should allow the focus group to write comments anonymously, because who the hell is going to be truthful with a camera on them.
discussion here about William Ayers.
He acted, unlike many who oppose the Bush administration.
He was not evil. He was brave.
Unlike Henry Kissinger, he did not help to kill and torture tens of thousands.
I'd be proud to be tied to Bill Ayers.
I was about 22 when he dropped into the Weather Underground.
God, wish we had such a group today.
You sound like an abortion clinic bomber.
I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s.
I believe in action. Not words.
Wow, just wow.....
so you wish there was a group like that today that you could join?
Um, ok, you totally just lost all credibility.
If anyone on either side promotes violence as The weather underground perpetrated then I definitely would not want you in my party of choice.
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/12/3/growing...
Growing Up in the Weather Underground: A Father and Son Tell Their Story
That looks like a tie to me.
Check out the most emailed photo on yahoo right now. This is an unretouched photo. There is looking presidential and then there is this:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081016...
Closeup:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081016...
You're an adolescent buffoon, Darrell. Stay on the sidewalk.
DAR
Okay Neo, I will. And you keep walking down the road against the traffic with your loser, gramps McGrumpy-pants. Just tell him it might be best to keep his ugly old tongue in his mouth when tens of millions of people are watching him. Is that too much to ask? I don't think so.
I think the picture is great but more important than one picture of him looking like a complete idiot, is the case against him. I have posted lots of good information roasting him from top to bottom in our freethinker forum:
http://fayfreethinkers.com/forums/viewtopic.p...
The picture is just for dessert.
D.
DAR
Oh, and here is a bonus one:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Ph...
What's the matter with your guy and the tongue thing?
D.
was this photo taken from.
DAR
It was taken from the debate last night. I saw McCain make the expression as he couldn't decide which way to go around the table to shake the moderators hand. What a classic picture. Kind of sums up McCain's whole campaign.
D.
Hey Darrel
Yes, saw that, very unpresidential. Compare the two - him and Obama... I know which one looks far more presidential and Obama wouldn't be someone we'd all cringe when we saw him speak or meeting important world leaders. McGrumpy Pants is going to lose it in one way or another as I reckon he's bound to have post traumatic stress from the horrid things he went through in Vietnam (not that I'd wish that on ANYONE), but this guy is running for president!
We don't need another buffoon in the White House - this last one laughed and twittered and went on vacation while the empire burned.
I just received this short audio clip from a "Republican".
Howard Stern sent one of his intrepid reporters out to the streets of Harlem to do some interviews about the upcoming election. Here's an example of what they found:
http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Ha...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
That's pretty pathetic.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
In statistical terms (more specifically, sampling procedures), this is laughble from the perspective of generalizations. I'll keep it short -- you cannot generalize from a non-random sample. Three individuals' opinions who were non-randomly sampled allows for no conclusion other than what they said, period.
I agree. As a devil's advocate point I have a similar note of skepticism when I see compilation pieces of comments made by people at McCain/Palin events (there is just a touch of difference there, though).
I wonder how many people they had to interview before they came up with three that didn't know Sarah Palin was on the other side of the race.
Old McSame doesn't see that he's saying Ayres and Obama has the same type of ties as he has with Bush; only the latter ones are stronger.
Not to rain on anyone's parade but do these lines actually mean anything, or is it some bullshit graphic used to keep viewers' interest? Did they have people wired up with electrodes or pressing buttons or something?
Matt A
CNN's graph was more striking. McCain did consistently - almost invariably - better with men than women, and Obama the reverse. And in direction, not just margin. McCain did much better the first 30 minutes than Obama, probably because he was doing a much better presentation. But once he went from, "this is why I'm better" to "this is why he's worse," he tanked with women and struggled with men. I'm inclined to infer that this really does reveal his temperament. He tried to follow the script, but after a while his true nature couldn't be repressed. He's short tempered, belligerent, and nasty. It's not a great combination for a president.
My other observation is the eye blinking. It may be politically incorrect, but watching him I couldn't help think of the USS Pueblo prisoners, blinking morse code to send secret pleas for help. Especially with that wide-eyed (deer in the headlights is the Phrase Of The Day) look. McCain's history had nothing to do with it, but I know saying it will be misinterpreted by a lot of people.
During the debate, Obama chided McCain for his tax on health care premiums. Very interesting, Obama only wants to tax; Doctors, practices, hospitals, drug companies, drug stores, wheelchair makers, hearing aid makers, chiropractors, hospital equipment makers, nursing homes, health care equipment transport companies, therapy clinics, rehab equipment makers, health supplement makers, toothpaste manufacturers, retailers of health supplies......should I go on?
You could say something about how those companies and all the related costs should be regulated as they are in other countries, and how the government will finally have a vested interest in doing some regulating when they're forced to fit universal health insurance into the budget.
How many of those individuals and companies make over $250,000 US? If so, then they are targeted to shift the tax burden from the teeming unwashed who have been financially sodomized for 3 decades by their failed elites (banks, the wealthy, the highly educated, their representatives in Congress, the White House and the Supreme court). Seems fair to me.
OK brilliant ones,
Don't you know that when these companies get taxed, they just roll the cost down to YOU. YOU wind up paying, not them. You say "it serves them right" ..how does it serve them right for you to pay them more money? Go read a book about business, at least show some aptitude for it before you blog....
Everything you've named has inherent problems with overcharging themselves and the general public, thus inflating end user costs immensely. It's gotten to the point where a flight to Thailand, along with a two week stay after surgery, will cost you less than the equivalent procedure done within driving distance of your own home in any state in the US with no overnight stay. Yes, they will be taxed by Obama, and rightly so.
yes yes go on! you forgot condom makers , douchbag manufactures, rectal thermomiters , and makers of tampons !
Obama has to bring in that crazy, stupid, neglectful mother vote =
www.filthyrichmond.blogspot.com
The "I'm voting based on what I think I heard" crowd.
ignorant and rude. two attributes you need in a president.
That's good to hear but I'm still not convinced that there's anything remotely scientific about those dial poll thingies.
Is that like soap-on-a-rope?
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
That's good to hear but I'm
Thu, 10/16/2008 - 17:06 — gwen (not verified)
That's good to hear but I'm still not convinced that there's anything remotely scientific about those dial poll thingies.
That reminds me of an episode where Bart and Lisa Simpson were among a group of kids recruited by a man wandering though a mall to rate an Itchy and Scratchy cartoon. When a speedo man showed up on the beach in the cartoon, Nelson Muntz kept twisted the approval knob on Milhouse Van Housen's controls.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
McCain looked like "Casper the Grumpy Ghost"
Tried watching but that banner was scary. What's with that scary ass banner that sounds like an F16 flying over?
WTF?
Ok, I know this is slightly off topic, but it does have to do with those live polls on CNN.com.
Did anyone else notice how during the last question about education, Obama was rated SERIOUSLY FREAKING HIGH across the board during most of his comments, but literally the second he mentioned, "...and part of the responsibility lies with parents, who should turn off the TV's and video games..." his ratings across the board dropped like a rock?
It was pretty shocking. It's like all across America people shouted, "How dare you suggest turning off the almighty TV, which babysits my kids so I don't have to." That more than anything else scared the crap out of me as far as the future of the country (though I was laughing at the same time).
I've been looking for some video, or at least a screen grab, of that moment, but haven't come up with one yet. Anyone else notice it?
Check this out: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/146...
Sara Palin, indeed, has had much influence on McCain these past few days. McCain's common sence and IQ are, gradually, becoming more like hers!
^^ After making Joseph Wurzelbacher famous, McCain learned 3 key facts -- Joe owes back taxes, isn't licensed and Obama's plan would cut Joe's taxes.
McCain is so FUNNY!
Where the heck did they find a black woman who is "definitely" going to vote for John McCain, and that in spite of expressing displeasure at his attacks? Who is this person?
The only think I know about "undecided voters" is that at this point, if they are still undecided, they are mentally defective and shouldn't hold the fate of our country in their hands.
As David Sedaris said recently:
Undecided voters are rather like when you’re on an airplane, and the stewardess rolls up the food cart to you and says,
“Would you like the chicken or the human sh*t with broken glass in it?”
and the undecided voter says,
“How is the chicken cooked?”
Just say NO to McBush.
Klaatu: "I am fearful when I see people substitute fear for reason."
Aw come on; That closing was damn funny. He had Obama cracking up. I'm happy to see the guy isn't a complete asshole.
The 35% of Americans who do not owe income tax will receive checks from Obama's new IRS. Doesn't this have to be reported as income on their tax returns? Tax breaks don't get listed in the income section of your tax return. Isn't Welfare the government body that sends income checks to Americans? Now the IRS will do that to? We should demand Obama stop misleading us by saying 95% of us will get tax breaks. 60% will get tax cuts, 35% will get income checks (welfare). Do 35% of Americans really want welfare checks?
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