Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread
By Nicole Belle Sunday Feb 08, 2009 5:00amNetwork (1976)
You know what? I'm mad as hell too, and I don't want to take it any longer. As I look at the Sunday lineup, I realize that we will be subjected to a bunch of self-congratulatory crap from senators on both the right and left, praising themselves for a job well done on the stimulus bill. Well, congratulations, you bubble-headed buffoons, you just cut approximately 1.25 million jobs--desperately needed jobs--from the stimulus bill. Krugman's numbers are a little different, but no less disheartening. It's enough to make me wish someone like Krugman would go all Christian Bale on these right wingers in the media and remind them they're f&@#ing around with real lives. And it's certainly not better when those the President entrusted are aiding the Senators with their ridiculous slicing and dicing. I don't know how these people can sleep at night.
ABC's "This Week" - Lawrence Summers, director of National Economic Council; Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - Christina Romer, head of the Council of Economic Advisers; Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Sens. John Ensign, R-Nev., and Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.; and Reps. Mike Pence, R-Ind., and Barney Frank, D-Mass.
NBC's "The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Andrea Mitchell, David Brooks, Michele Norris, Michael Duffy. Topics: Can Obama seize the agenda after a rocky start? Who is to blame for the bad economy -- Wall St. or Washington? Meter Questions: Will Obama win enough GOP votes on the final stimulus bill to call it bipartisan? Can Obama bring confidence to the economy before enacting a stimulus package?
CNN's "State of the Union" - Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood; Sens. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford; Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.
CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" - On GPS this week, Fareed sits down with Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, Barham Salih, as well as CNN's Michael Ware and Fmr. U.S. Ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk to discuss this week's provincial elections in Iraq and what it means for the troubled nation's struggle with democracy. Fareed also hosts an impressive panel from the World Economic Forum in Davos to discuss the global financial crisis.
"Fox News Sunday" - Summers; Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.
So instead of shouting out the window, why don't you tell us what you see this morning that makes you mad as hell.
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The USA doesn't make anything anymore anyway. Why not just cut the facade, and give us cash (jobs) to sit home consuming potato chips, beer and television?
A job I'm qualified for. Where do I apply and does it come with a benefit package? A good dental plan would be nice.
people still watch these shows ?????
Remember how the Republicans have used the words "death tax" to describe the inheritance tax? Well this is one time we need to turn the tables on them. We need to rename the stimulus bill and call it a Job's Bill. Now if only we could get Obama to do the same and rub the Republicans nose in it when they vote against jobs for Americans.
The Dittoheads are making phone calls to push dope addict Limbaugh's propaganda. Come on people. There are way more of us than there are in Limbaugh's silly circus. Use the toll free numbers below to make daily call, lots of them to Senators & the White House.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
800-828-0498,(confirmed working) 800-459-1887 , 800-614-2803, 800-833-6354, 866-220-0044 (have not confirmed all the numbers as working)
I'm about ready to be dialing some digits.
And hell yes, "Job's Bill" certainly is far more to the point than the very poorly named "Stimulas bill".
If Obama signs this republican anti-stimulus flaming turd of a bill, he is a fool!
The American people gave him a landslide victory.
They said NO to the assholes who wrote this piece of crap in the senate. Everything they have taken out, is exactly what the people voted for and wanted.
We hav 80+ seats in the House.
We will soon have 59 Senate seats.
And the most conservative weenie - Ben Nelson writes our stimulus bill?
And the only reason we even have to put up with any of this shit, is because of an assinine 60 vote cloture rule in the Senate. America - destroyed because of a self imposed 60 rule cloture vote in the Senate. This is so fucking stupid I want to scream.
Shove the nuclear option up their ass, increase the spending on jobs, eliminate all the tax cuts, and then let the repukes filibuster for real against the American people. I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS!
And what is up with this bipartisanship bullshit. I don't know anyone who gives a rats ass about bipartisanship. Obama really screwed the pooch on this one. The American people told the repukes to fuck-off and die in the last two elections, and Obama picked them up off the ground and gave them a gun to use against "the people;" who said in November that they didn't want to hear their shit anymore.
And Geithner, that little SOB is nothing but Paulson II. Which leads us to Larry Sommers. Why would Obama pick this repuke lite Clinton flunky, instead of someone like Paul Krugman? I am quickly losing faith in Obama.
And the irony was that as I was typing in my request to rename the bill, George Will attacked the bill's name. "Well, Democracts who named this bill think that anytime you throw money at something it stimulates the economy, thats why.....blah blah blah....)
How very sure they all seem to be that no one will mind turning the childrens lunch money over to the bullies. That's compromise they all seem to believe in.
but it's pretty obvious from the news I read on the internet, that none of these congresscritters give a damn about what the people think.......it's all about THEM............
none of them "sliced or diced" their paychecks!!!
The Christian Bale mash-up is outstanding. Go, Bluegal. If only it were real! I'd love to see Krugman tear up the set and tell these fucking shills OFF.
I've replayed the real Bale tirade atleast twenty times since it came out, if not more. That thing is addictive. Love that guy for having such a breakdown. It's a thing of sheer beauty.
I've watched it a few times and it cracks me up each time. How great it would be to see those pontificating gasbags get an earful like that!
Would Rahm Emanuel be so quick to cut out the amount we freely send to Israel every year, with no strings attached??? ..........didn't think so......
I'm still stymied by the fact that USA federal lawmakers are allowed to hold dual citizenship.
that Rahm Emanuel's father fought for the Irgun in Israel.
Anyone interested about the Irgun can find about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
Amazing isn't that we've lived through eight years of what could best be called a "criminal enterprise" operating out of the Bush White House, yet Fox News Sunday is doing a feature story this morning about ethics with the title: "Ethics in the White House, Is Obama Living Up to His Promises?"
Fox doing a segment on "ethics"????? yeah, right.......
What they meant to say was "EthNics in the White House". That's more their kind of story.
Get Bale to chew out Limbaugh. He'd have to be in John Connor's character though.
I'm really angry that Franken is not in the Senate.
(BTW Peter Finch was the first Australian to be posthumously awarded an Oscar for this role. Hopefully Heath will be the next.)
share his theories about war reporting to Michael Ware's face.
That would be must-see TV.
I don't know how these people can sleep at night.
Hey Nicole - I'm not giving you grief this time (waves flag of truce) - just going to answer your question, how can these people sleep at night?
AMBIEN... Double doses.
I agree - this stimulus bill is a train wreck. They hacked out the good parts, and left all the pork fat for the rich and the megacorporations.
To quote MacHeath:
"When you're most despairing,
The clouds may be clearing..."
sigh. I don't see that right now, so we need to continue fighting and agitating. The fight for justice is never ending, which is why there is no rest for the wicked.
and they won't til we are in their faces screaming I'm mad as hell.
instead of politely calling their offices and tell them to support the stimulus bill, we should be calling and saying We are mad as hell
and sitting in the halls of congress and chanting we're mad as hell.
why is the rest of the world in the streets and we are not????
have you seen this.. we've been robbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42IUg2NXwoU
Excellent. Knock the bastard GOP back on their heels.
What makes me mad as hell, are the two political parties having the audacity to squash the hope and change voters yearned for, and continue down the same road of political BSing. The Repugs destroyed everything they touched while in power, and the Dems continue to earn the nickname Repuglite. Voters screamed for Change, and the politicians intentionally ignore that request.
For decades the Dems were considered the party that was the lesser of two evils, and once elected, always prove just that. That they truly are not much different than the Repubs. But really, the sad joke of reality is on the voter's faces like egg yolk. Demanding change, and voting in the exact same CONgress critters, is like giving your old piece of junk vehicle a paint job, when you really need a new car.
The gutting of Stimulus Debt 2.0 was intentional. They were never going to put money in infastructure anyway. Just more tax cuts. It's public policy for both parties. But the saddest part of the entire deal? Even Dem senators stated before the gutting of the bill, that if passed as it was, it would do little stimulating for at least 2 years. Wishy-washy John Kerry is on record stating as much. So the "we gotta do it fast or the world as we know it will end" bill, was never anything more than politics as usual.
"Tsunami" of public outrage. If Obama isn't riding the wave, he'll get towed under. The wave is real.
Time to plan for the collapse. Don't get caught off-guard. No WAY are Obama and the Democrats going to stop the crash, though they apparently think they have wiggle-room enough to make this the Republicans' fault.
Who in the hell will CARE whose fault it is when you're homeless and standing in soup lines?
Yet, I wonder. The Democrats certainly had their chance, and if THEY fail and I'm sure they will, if we even survive as a nation, we'll be on a LONG teeter-totter of 4 year presidencies, Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican, etc. unless there is a revolution in politics and corporatism fails along with everything else.
When I awoke yesterday, there was a difference in my neighbourhood. My block has 7 houses on it, including my own. Yesterday, 2 of those houses were sporting brand new "for sale" signs. 2 out of 7! And it made me realize I have 20 weeks or so left on my Unemployment.
I've been watching a car parked on my block loaded with someone's belongings, obviously recently homeless. The person moved it a couple of times to keep it from being towed, but eventually stopped.
Yesterday I saw the tow truck scooping it up off the ground. All the possessions were still inside of it. I have no idea what happened to the person.
Thats a sad story. Foreclosed homes and everyone broke. Watch the rich rub their hands in glee at bargains galore while soup kitchens overflow
What makes me mad as hell this morning are the.....(drum roll)... Christians! Jobs are being lost now in my home state, but the new churches are still being built. The money has been funneling to them for the past 7 or so years, it continues. The bailouts have been going on for the last 2 years, we all seem to have forgotten. How much are we up to in total bailouts now 2-3 trillion dollars? We the people only got like 20 percent of that in this past bailout. What are they doing and what are we doing???? How can this continue, will we all just line up at the newly built churches begging for bread and water, maybe a place to sleep and shower? Begging for our money back? Robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as i watched the obama inaguration of obama and saw all the delisional admirers chokeing the washington square mall i wondered if these bastards could get that many people off thier ass just to watch another tool of the corporation owned government be sworn in as president , why couldnt that many people have desended on washington at one time to bring down the bush cheny gang that was stealing thier freedoms? how long would it have took to bring down the bush cheny thugs , just what does it take to gather that many americans to defend thier libertys, ? oh right you need pomp and glitter, jesus a crowed like that could have marched thru the whithouse and congress and heaved all that deadwood into the patomac!thats what makes me mad as hell, the apathy of the easily deluded!
"why couldnt that many people have desended on washington at one time to bring down the bush cheny gang that was stealing thier freedoms? how long would it have took to bring down the bush cheny thugs"
and would we be willing to do the so if things continued under Obama?
not in the least curt! . only if thiers lots of bands playing , and rock stars giveing concerts , then maby a few would show up, for the entertainment !
that's true a decent protest costs at least 50 million these days, plus Ticket master's $15 service charge,
50 million bucks? to get rid of a bad government huh? money well spent! curt!
The reason y'all do not remember the millions who turned out in anti war protests all over this country is because the corporate media did not cover it. Not enough pomp and circumstance I suppose. Or could it be that the corporate media has a corporate pro war bias?
... to congregate on the Capitol steps and wait for Republicans, and some Democrats, to dare to walk past them on their way to "legislate." I'd like to see Vitter try to slink past a crowd angered at HIM. Growing rage is sweeping the country. Frank Rich is right. There are real consequences for abject de-regulation. And those who promoted it ought to face the rage of those who lost their livelihoods in the process. A few centuries ago, the French used the guillotine to express their rage against those who arrogantly told them, in more than one way, to eat cake (the term for "bread crumbs" at the time).
my idol ever since I first saw Network seventeen years ago.
watching mcSORE-LOSER now...
did he just reference the DEBUNKED CBO report?
huh. he was lamenting the lack of republican support... added, paraphrased, 'in the interest of fair disclosure, that's the way if was when bush was prez... but i thought it was going to be different now...'
conrad on now...
got sidetracked or distracted from ftn...
summers on now - had a good one:
lots of people out of work ... lots of work that needs to be done (infrastructure)
You leave Batman alone Nicole. Tough scenes in movies require tough actions.
/snark
My sister and her husband are in the film industry, and from what I've heard, that DP deserved the chewing out that he got. He is/was a total ass on the set and everyone hated him. Bale was the only one with the gonads to tell him off.
It is interesting that this is coming to light now...a year after the fact. Have to wonder the motivation of the person leaking that clip now.
If you haven't already, go watch Bluegal's mashup of Krugman going Bale-listic. It's hyperlinked above.
Thanks for the recommendation Nicole, I'll check that out. I actually did read an account of the scene yesterday on line and the person seemed to say it was about being in character, very deeply and the directer messin with his acting by tinkering with the set.
Dr. Pepper?
It totally disgusts me everytime I watch C-SPAN and hear the retarded, yes retarded statements of people who don't get you have to invest to recoup a profit later. I am talking about Pres. Obama's idea of a stimulous bill that would create jobs, save money in the long run and pay for itself meaning jobs and green energy. But noooo, the retarded ones spoke again. Are these people closet Islamists, followers of Sharia? That's what they act like. Who is really for this country and who really gives a shit? It pisses me off to no end also that people don't get it about Sharia law. IT is now part of the AIG bailout. People don't read Pakistan news how we are supporting Pak so much, if we didn't they'd starve. I'm worried about this nuke scientist in that hotbed of insanity and oppression, fascist religionosity. I'm fed up with people who keep remaining ignorant no matter where they come from because they are not educating themselves in a more self-disciplined way. And it should be required reading of anyone in major politics to read the Qu'ran and know what is in Sharia law. I can't stand all this idiocy and liberal oh those poor babies crap anymore. I can't take it how people can be homeless and these halfmansions sitting rotting becoming crime locales and an eyesore in general. It's retarded to have homeless people in the cold, in any weather when there is all this empty homes. It is immoral. Why not reinstitute squatter rights? The homestead act? We are not marching in the streets because no one wants another hospital bill or jail bill. Or maybe an update to your jacket with Homeland Security/fbi, etc.
What does Sharia law have to do with America's problems?
Bale is my favorite chew out hero.
All the new churches they are building will eventaully be used by hungry homeless middle class christians who will bang down their doors for sanctuary.
Why watch this nonsense in the first place? There will be no surprises--you already know what they're going to say, or as good as. Why pay attention to them at all? In my opinion, our time would be better spent in action and organizing. Let them run their mouths.
steele just said boosh inherited a recession...
that guy thinks he's smooth...
there is a distinction between jobs and work...
wait till you hear it.
Awesome Nicole.
I don't think there was a word comming out of Barney Frank's mouth today that wasn't clip-worthy.
deserves the Pulitzer Prize for his outstanding work.
This:
http://bothwell.typepad.com/whos_your_nanny/2...
And this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090207/bs_afp/f...
It angers me to think that the military are now demanding we leave Iraq in 23 months instead of the 16 months Obama PROMISED.
It angers me to think that the military, with Obama's blessing will be pumping more and more of our national lives and treasure into another Vietnam in Afghanistan/Pakistan at a time when we can neither economically nor morally afford it.
And on and on it goes.
I feel like I've been suckered by Obama. That angers me. He has surrounded himself with military hawks (including Biden and Hillary), who are all blindly pro-Israel and who probably believe that if we cannot now dominate the world economically we damn sure can militarily. And what a set-up. Men lose jobs and where do they turn for a paycheck when their families are suffering? Military recruiters.
Instead, we should be making a DEAL with the Taliban to have the United Nations buy the damn poppy crop and make sure leading pharmaceutical companies make lots and lots of morphine for all the poor people in Third World countries who are suffering TERRIBLY with terminal cancer pain and no pain relief.
Excuse me while I go vomit.
your excused abbybwood vommitings the natural reaction to being flucked by your government and keep your dogs out of the reach of this governments civillian counterpart to the blackwater trained thugs , your local police department! thiers a reason the last four letters in police are lice!
and so do his advisers. try to figure out what he reads, and write him an open letter.
maybe he'll listen.
Do you remember the military coup that took place in the United States in the fall of 2002?
I do.
i remember the most articulate voice of liberal opposition to iraqi invasion dying in a plane crash just a week or two before the election.
gosh, what a coincidence!
i remember reading somewhere some tin-foil hat nutter butter ranting about wellstone's plane getting hit by EMP, but who would have access to that kind of technology, and what would they stand to gain?
Please tell me no one believes this guy. Here's the problem, I've never seen his sick joke of a 'news' show, so I don't even know what he says anymore. I avoid him at all costs because there's no there, there. He's like Bloomberg on A-Rod yesterday. There is sound coming out of his mouth but he's not saying anything, and if he were saying anything coherent it would be a pack of lies. He's no different than Campbell Brown or Sanjay Gupta. I also think Larry King sucks balls and so does Anderson.
"We're sorry. This video is no longer available." says Big Brother.
Dunno. I'm guessing Krugman thinks he is going about as Christian Bale as his career at Princeton will allow. Now, if he would like the office next to Noam Chomsky at MIT.....
Which is to say, don't think there aren't limits to permissible speech in academia beyond which there is punishment for being a bad boy.
I'm running it now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd-IsWJs8Po
and Krugman has Princeton tenure and a Nobel. He can write his own ticket in academia. But my sense is his temperament isn't compatible with cuss-laden tirades.
I think he's sexy when he's mad, though. :D
I agree on Krugman's temperament, and I bet Krugman sure as hell would like to know where the hell everyone is. The guy is laying it out there and needs support!
I feel Obama is boxing himself in, and we as concerned citizens need to make him shape good policy which can only be successful by not only hearing but understanding this nation will only go as far as labor will carry it!
The interview with Thomas Ricks on MTP left me deeply troubled on several levels - perhaps more so than the current state of the stimulus package debate. The most salient point made by Ricks is that while the public perceives that "The Surge" worked and that we are almost out of Iraq, most analysts (and a lot of folks here at C&L) understand that in regards to its sole purpose - to bring about lasting political stability - the Surge has been a failure. In Rick's estimation, it appears that the upcoming year will be a bad one because as the U.S. draws down its presence there, the reality of Iraq's instability will becomes more apparent and more violent.
Whoever got pissed off in that clip shows how Hollywood used to be, that was an outstanding performance
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