Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread
By Nicole Belle Sunday Oct 25, 2009 4:00amGloucestershire Cheese Rolling--May 25, 2009
I think I've mentioned before that I'm married to a Dane, and I am of Irish/English descent on my mum's side. Maybe it's our genetic background, maybe it's our foodie nature, but we're big cheese lovers: from crumbled feta in our salads to creamy brie with a glass of wine after the kids go to bed to seriously stinky Danish Gamle Ole, that has powerful flavor, but can make your mouth smell like week-old gym socks afterwards. But it occurs to me, watching this video, that there is such a thing as loving cheese a little too much. It also seems to me that there is something painfully reminiscent our little Sunday get-togethers. We love that cheese--that little nugget of truth--and we go chasing after it, thinking we're going to catch it. But when it comes to the Sunday shows, it's uncatchable and we stumble and we fall and we get hurt, time and time again. And it really forces one to wonder: is it possible to want it too much?
'Cuz if it's Sunday, it's John McCain time again--this time on Face the Nation, with Russ Feingold. Health care is going to be a big topic of discussion. Of course, we have the most reactionary Republicans to lie a little more to us: Mitch McConnell on This Week, John Kyl on FNS and John Cornyn on Meet the Press. Best of all, FNS has a representative of AHIP on too. Watch that cheese roll even further out of our reach. And Afghanistan is also of note, with Afghan candidate and former Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah on State of the Union and Hamid Karzai appearing on Fareed Zakaria GPS. So tumbling down the hill we go, hoping beyond hope that we're gonna catch that cheese.
ABC's "This Week" - Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Russ Feingold, D-Wis.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.
NBC's "The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Helene Cooper, Dan Rather, Andrew Sullivan and Kathleen Parker. Topics: Who's the Likely Loser in the Fight Between the White House and the Right? Will Talk Radio Run the GOP's Presidential Nominating Process in 2012? Is the Far Right more likely than the White House to have its hardball tactics backfire? YES: 7 NO: 5; Do the Democratic leaders pushing the public option already know it is dead? YES: 7 No: 5.
CNN's "State of the Union" - Afghan presidential candidate and former Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah; Sens. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Ben Nelson, D-Neb., and Jim Webb, D-Va.; Ed Gillespie, former Bush White House counselor.
CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" - President Karzai gives his first interview since agreeing to allow Afghanistan to hold runoff elections. Many vital questions remain: why should the international community believe a runoff can be any less fraud-filled than the original August election? And if Karzai were to be re-elected, is his legitimacy now tainted? Plus Shashi Tharoor, the man who handles India's foreign affairs.
CNN's "Amanpour" - Afghan opium; Women for sale.
"Fox News Sunday" - Abdullah; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president for government affairs at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce; Mike Tuffin, of America's Health Insurance Plans.
So what's catching your eye this morning?
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/...
Now up to 132, per CNN.
Last throes.
Last throes.
To watch the Sunday funnies you must be very bored or want to practice of building up your ability to be tortured..
When you watch the Sunday's funnies shows , you are only supporting these arrogant jerks to receive a large salary telling the progressives they should shut up and go stand in the corner..
Have you ever hear just one of them give credit to the progressives and left for demonstrating and calling the Illegal Iraq war for what it was..
The illegal spying , torture , treason and the other criminal corruption from Bush's administration..
The ?news? media and the talk host can not stand the progressives or left and attack them on a daily basis.
You do not hear the arrogant over paid , over exposed , amateur comedian attack the tea baggers and the corporate health idiots which attack the town haw meetings and the conservatives which protested on 912..
You never heard a pee when Bush excluded democrats from his meeting or when he cut msnbc from joining with the conservatives radio talk show meeting..
We have to fight to even be heard and than , they attack anything you say even if you never said it...
The corporate republicans and their corporate controlled "?news?" outlets , have taught American citizens to hate the left before they even know a d... thing about what they might say or are saying..
Look at pill Popping Rush ,, the 10 million dollar plus paid conservative idiot. He open his mouth and lies with deceit and BS and they think it great.. As he just did once again by accusing Obama of creating a speech in College which he never wrote... Than Rush makes a statement knowing d... well he was tricked , saying that if he didn't , it would be something he would... Can you imagine attacking someone in court with these type of evidences or FACTS>..
Do not get me wrong Obama has taken over a disaster which is the worst our country has ever faced , but he is listening or he is following the wrong path , because it looks like the same d... footsteps as his criminal predecessors bobble head Bush and shot gun Cheney..
Obama has left his main base and campaign promises to follow Emanuel , blue dogs , centrists down the path which is giving aid / wealth / control to wall street while still destroying main street , jobs and workers..
The hardest thing in fighting for American jobs , manufacturing plants and benefits for workers is to make up your mind to do it.
If the health reform bill would have has a straight forward single payer option in it , the total cost for our Citizens would have been less expensive than their corporate health written bill given to them to pass .... And would keep getting cheaper as each year passes.
Obama and the democrats health plan they are passing is a guaranty increase for the health empires income for years to come.. They will start saying as the health policies jump in price , just look what it would have been if this action was not taken...
But really posting on these boards are doing nothing but relieving a persons frustrations... The only way to make an impression is the hit the streets with "many" 100,000 demonstrators and vote their a... out starting NOW because we need a person to run against them in the democratic primary...
It is a d... shame that these arrogant corporate democrats are going to get a home free pass to be re-elected in 2010 and 2012..
Great article here by Samuel Claiborne. I heard him deliver it on NPR Friday afternoon and I sat in my car thinking, "Wow. This guy's telling it like it really is.":
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/10/24-4
This is why all these Sunday morning shows are totally stacked against any Progressive thought in this country.
Nicole, you watch them so we don't have to....
You're a better woman than I.
My Sundays have become way more productive after giving up these bullshit shows. Even when the Progressive position is mentioned it is with negative connotations.
That is why the very ignorant and least informed seemingly always take the right wing position.
Why ruin a perfectly good weekend??
Right now it's sunny in The Berkshires, there are blue skies, it's windy out and the golden and red leaves are flying through the crisp autumn air...
The bluejays and cardinals are at the feeder playing games with the squirrels.
Nature beckons...for soon the blizzards will be flying here.
Me, I'll just sit under a tree in front of where I live and count blades of grass rather than poison my mind and angry up my blood watching "Sunday talk".
Sunday talk is:
"Irritable mental gestures that seek to resemble ideas"- Lionel Trilling, 1950
and need to wash my socks.
for getting whites their whitest...
that I want to get on my plastic scooter, head up the Mogollon plateau and go east before those mulchy leaves mix with frozen rain.
I won't have a job when I return but what the hay.
It'll just have to wait for spring.
How about a nice scary movie:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/ame...
but I'll probably miss it. It's a glorious morning here in Ft Lauderdale. Off to see friends in Hollywood and Miami, maybe hit the 'Fins game this afternoon.
Okay, I've GOT to wonder what is on the mind of someone "balancing" McCain's 22 Sunday TV appearance since losing the election with his "campaign finance reform" partner Russ Feingold?
Russ alone would be great, but what is the topic to be on that show today? "Campaign finance reform"?
PS: Anyone counting "Corn-ball's" number of appearances? He's not up for re-election until 2014.
I am not going to waste one minute on the talking asshat shows! It is all bullshit and lies and I won't take it anymore!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
I completely concur...
I was just thinking about the media and the Republicans and Democrats who are on these shows.
The media wants us to think that the Democrats represent the "Blue" thinking, and that the Republicans represent the "Red" thinking.
The truth is that the Republicans (well, just think 8 years of GWB) are actually just completely selfish, greedy pricks who TOTALLY look out for their corporate paymasters, the Democrats are pretty much the same with an occasional twinge of "doing the right thing" (Franken and the KBR Arbitration Defense Appropriations amendment that passed with 30 Republicans saying "Nay").
The Progressives in the United States are shut out. Completely shut out. Just take health care legislation as an example. "Single Payer off the table! Arrest those doctors and nurses for interrupting our little corporate committee hearing!!!" (Baucus - Democrat)
But to me the kicker was when Daniel Inouye was "visited" by MANY corporate defense contractors after the Franken amendment passed and he promised them that he would "water down or get rid of" Franken's amendment....since they all had their little panties so twisted about it.
"Give a rape victim a TRIAL! Then all the world would KNOW!!! We can't have THAT!!!"
Inouye....the Democrat.
Progressives have no home.
So here's my question project:
If Republicanism is a "mental illness"...what does that make Democraticism???
Just wonderin'.
Mentally healthy?
you have to be joking when you say Democrats are mentally "healthy".
Doesn't mental health have anything to do with telling the truth?
A little joke at the expense of Democraticism - I love me some sniglets!
?
EW!
A combination of spilled Coke/Pepsi and dropped buttery popcorn and Skittles on the floors at movie theaters.
Ha!!
Maybe wanting to do better but hampered by the way things are done? I don't know that I am sure on that myself. I know that in the present world the dems are the lesser of the two evils.
I also know that washington is in desperate need of a complete house cleaning. I think we need to get rid of at least 98% of the congress and 99% of the senate. Unless we get rid of the people that are there now we will never get it fixed.
The current crop of repuublicans work on the motive of what's in it for me! It is the only reason a republican ever entered a race. I think some of the dems started out wanting to help but have been corrupted by the big money it takes for a job that was supposed to be a shared sacrifice. Remember you were supposed to reluctantly serve and return to your life! Not stay forever, not collect a big pension. Not to have a life long job.
At this point I don't care how we get this done. We need to get it done.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
Like many diseases, it doesn't discriminate based on gender, race, or political party.
Excellent diagnosis!
Abbybwood, R.N.
I accept all forms of compensation-- all major healthcare policies, cash, food stamps, gold, silver, luxury cars/boats, drugs, sexual favors, etc...
How about a few untouched 1964 Kennedy half dollars doc? They're real purdy.
various old silver dollars, silver certificate bills, old two-dollar bills, etc. that my grandmother gave me. I had to spend those at face value to buy food when I was homeless a couple of years back.
The hardest part? Having to argue with the stupid clerks that these were real US currency!
I just noticed the clock on my computer was 1 hour behind. Today would have been when "Daylight Savings Time" ended (before the Bush White House came up with the brilliant idea of the very LEAST they could possibly do to address Global Warming was to bump DST by a week.)
Apparently, I forgot to reinstall the patch for the new "Daylight Savings Time" following one of several computer crashes over the course of the year.
Fixed now. :)
DST....Nov. 1st.
my birthday.
Mines on the 2nd.
Lots of Scorpios around here...
3rd. Step mom's is 2nd.
Happy birth month scrorps!
Give me an extra day. Mine's the 8th.
That's why I said "used to". Today is the day DST "used to" end.
"there is such a thing as loving cheese a little too much"
My better half is Dutch so aged gouda rules in our house.
Because all things get Gouda with age. :)
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Yum!
:)
I discovered it at a little French joint I frequent here in The Berkshires called Brix.
They make really yummy vegetarian quiche with chevre. I finally asked about it and was told it's simply goat cheese!
I haven't tried making my own quiche with it but it seems it would be a good substitute for Feta??:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat's_milk_cheese
in this house.
There's the aforementioned feta. We also have haloumi from Greece, aged Gouda (Rembrandt brand is the best), Danish blue, chevre from Cowgirl Creamery in SF, havarti and Gamle Ole, as well as some plain ol' colby jack (which my kids like for snacks) and those Baby Bell mini-wheels that I put in my kids' lunches.
In the late, lamented (at least in my house) show, Pushing Daisies, the lead character Chuck referred to the refrigerator as the "cheese box" because that's all that was stored in it. It's pretty damn close to that here too.
here in Great Barrington, MA where I go to have KILLER margaritas (they call them El Horno's...Ha!) and they have incredible chile rellenos. The chili's are big and fresh. They par-boil them for a few minutes then split them and stuff them with fresh spinach that has been wilted and "some kind of mild cheese". Then they sprinkle some chopped scallions on top, throw some Mexican slightly spicy red sauce over them and broil them until the cheese melts. They're served with a few mesclun greens and a side of black beans and rice. Throw in the chips and salsa (really fresh salsa with lots of onion and jalapena's and fresh tomatoes) and maybe some fresh guacamole with lime and cilantro....OMG!!! This is a vegetarians WD!
I just can't figure out what kind of cheese they're using. I tend to think it's a mozzarella because it's so mild. The bartender claims it's cheddar. It's very pale.
I'm determined to re-create this meal in my kitchen. Which kind of cheese do you think would best compliment the rellenos????
that are white/pale and mild in taste.
We tend to use Monterey Jack mixed with Asadero when we've made chile rellenos.
!
I can't wait to grow the chili's myself next year (I'm leaving for L.A. a week from today....)
Democrats should actually welcome the fact that John McCain is taking the point for the Republican/conservative cause on the Sunday morning talk shows -- if they only handled it right.
It's really simple. At the beginning of each show, the Democratic (hopefully progressive, but not usually) guest should use their first minutes of camera time thus:
"I'd just like to remind everyone that Senator McCain sitting across from me is the very same man that chose Sarah Palin as his running mate last year. If everyone would just keep that in mind when assessing the judgement behind what he says.."
I'm pretty sure that things would go smoothly after that. ;-)
bushco supplied enough troops in Afghanistan. Of course, Cornhole dithers, and Gregory backs down.
Tell me again how these people managed an Empire for 600 years?
Proof again the Irish saved civilization. They eat the cheese, the Brits chase it.
Carl Levin did a superb job on FnS, setting the record straight on just how long it took Bush to decide on his "Surge", putting Cheney in his place, and latter setting the record straight (correcting Kyl) that the UN did NOT support McChrystal's request for "more troops", only supported his belief in a "counter insurgency strategy".
FnS has on two more "victims" of the Obama White House's "war on critics"... The Chamber of Commerce and AHIP. LMAO.
ADDENDUM: Fox chyron says CoC represents "3 million businesses". Nuh uh.
AHIP's rep on FnS says that their "anti-trust exemption" has "little effect" on the cost of healthcare.
I point this out because repeal of the McCarran/Ferguson Act of 1945 was the REPUBLICAN solution to bring down insurance prices by allowing trade across state lines. But now that Democrats are behind it, suddenly they are saying it would have "little to no effect in bringing down healthcare costs".
Can we quote you on that the next time a Republican brings it up, Sir?
What's catching my eye this morning? Reflecting upon the 23 years that my husband and I have been married as we celebrate all those many moments of love today, on our anniversary. :)
Have a great one, Pat.
We will have our 31st on Dec 29th.
That caught my eye on this thread!
Have a good one POP.
I'm going to wait until I'm 65 to get married to a woman of equal age so we can only argue over social security/retirement money.
I raise of glass (actually a mug of coffee--but in spirit, a glass of fine red wine) to you and your husband.
It's a rare couple these days who are still truly in love and keeping that flame burning.
Congratulations!!!
Big hug!!!
Thank each and every one of you. I just may be the most fortunate woman in the world. I married a true honey! Life has been such fun for these past 23 years. Can't wait to see how much fun the next years will be.
Congratulations, POP. Here's to another 23 years, and 23 more after that.
Kristol comes out and (artfully) defends giving out huge corporate bonuses at taxpayers the expense.
Naturally, he never actually uses those words, but he does condemn "government interfering in business".
Funny how these assclowns forget their "conservative values" once their corporat sponsors get their taxpayer chow...
On TW, George Will argued that "if you take government money, you're a civil servant and should be paid like one."
Earlier on MtP, the author of "Too Big to Fail" (I forget his name) had a brilliant solution: require by law that ALL of thes financial firms have a certain amount of financial reserves on hand. Not only would it make them more financially sound, but ALL of these companies would have to put that money into the business rather than pay huge bonuses, thus leveling the playing field.
money if our "F.D.I.C. Insured" accounts suddenly went flat-line.
I would think that THEY would have to have funds on hand for ALL their signatory banks.
They have a tiny fraction on hand to back it up. Google it.
. . . wouldn't they also insist that business stop interfering in government?
that Dennis Kucinich is on C-Span this morning? I have NO interest in McSame and the rest of the 'heads'.
So no, I didn't.
But I'll notify the video crew now. Thanks.
from all over the country are some of the best questions I ever hear being asked.
Too bad these callers don't have a seat right up there by Helen Thomas during the White House Press briefings/Q&A's with Gibbs...
Must see teevee.
This caught my ear because I'm hearing more and more often lately.
Dana Perino on FnS repeated the claim that "the stimulus was supposed to keep unemployment below 8.0%..."
Actually, the WH figure was "8.5%", but this is like the third time I've heard some Right-wing hack repeat the 8.0% figure.
Perino says the Bush white House didn't "shut out media outlets" it disagreed with. She says "certainly not with the (reporter) pool" in the WH Press Room.
Interesting qualifier there, Dana.
3 million people watch Fucked news - that's 1% of the population, so screw em
Maybe then they'd go away.
is The Roadrunner."
anymore."
SO WHY THE HELL ARE THEY ON THESE SHOWS SO MUCH?
WTF???
After bashing President Obama for delaying sending more troops to Afghanistan, and after Gregory presses Corny on whether Bush sent enough troops there, Cornyn defends himself by claiming Gregory "is suggesting more troops would have won it."
Isn't that EXACTLY what you're suggesting now Mr Cornyn???
"Expect there to be more large banks found guilty of laundering illegal monies from Iran."
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/i...
The so-called "Roundtable" on ABC leads to an incredible level of disgust and cynicism. Every week I watch this and see one or two liberals politely let their GOP or GOP water carrying counterparts use a 1-2 punch combination (sometimes 3) to hammer their points home while the lone liberal, acting unilaterally, offers up a defense akin to defending the reasons for invading Iraq. The careful exclusion of true liberal voices, to say nothing of the softball questions thrown out for the GOP watercarriers to banter amongst themselves, reveal these interviews as an exercise in complete worthlessness
I can no longer attribute any of these happenings to chance, its all carefully choreographed and ABC, home to Jake Tapper and its rightwing ownership, tries more and more to challenge FOX for peddling rightwing disinformation.
Fox and their bullshit coupled with good ratings is messing up the curve...very few actual liberals on Sunday talk.
It was made pretty clear on that Sunday back in Oct 2002 what the Sunday morning shows are being used for.
you just turn the damn television tube off and do something productive. At minimum go outside and look at the sky and think, wow whats that bright thing up there. Plant a freaking tree or something.
Pick up the trash.
While that sounds like a reasonable positive reaction, keep in mind that while we Liberals "ignore" these shows, we do so at our peril because THEY DON'T.
They use them to spread lies and sway public opinion. They pay attention (to their like-minded brethren) and then go out and spread those lies until they become "common knowledge".
Ignore these programs at... not just "your own" risk, but at everyone else's as well. :(
You write something similar to this every Sunday. I don't know if you're addressing me personally or the readership generally, but watching these shows and reporting on the media bias is the raison d'etre of this site.
Ignoring how these issues are being framed and discussed is a very dangerous proposition, IMO. The percentage of citizens who are truly engaged and getting their information from a variety of sources to filter through the bias is distressingly small. Most people don't have the time or inclination.
But I will say that just even having a site like this--which questions the framing or even the selection of guests on these shows--puts a bug in the ear of people who are aware of it and they don't watch the news the same way again.
I can't tell you how many friends--who know my work--now contact me for my take on news items of the day and ask me for links that help clarify positions. Conservatives and liberals alike. Not that I want to be their source, but I want them to seek other sources and make up their own minds.
That's why I'm here every Sunday and will continue to be.
Don't worry, though. I have a tennis game planned with my daughter and our house guests for this afternoon.
I said something similar on the ann colter thread yesterday.
What we can do about such people (both ann and more "respectable" pundits) is to continue monitoring what they say, and making it part of the blogosphere record (akashic?) to refute any potential future denials.
Otherwise the teabaggers would've been a complete surprise to us.
And of course Evet sounds every bit as bad as someone who might come on this site to say we shouldn't be watching TV or be on the internet, but be in Church.
It's a false sense of superiority.
so I don't have to.
I don't have the stomach for it.
Their deceitfulness is nauseating.
used her 15 minutes on ABC to immediately go off the rails and attack Charlie Gibson for "not knowing about the ACORN scandal" and said "there was a collective gasp across America" at this information.
Say what? You silly bitch, your handlers told you to bring up ACORN and ABC let you sit there and spew. Then she came back and hammered the White House while praising FOX and she clearly was on here to make the most noise of anyone on this panel. To hear ALL these people discuss FOX in the terms used is purely Orwellian. As is the criticism coming from the mouth of George Will. Absolutely maddening, like some kind of alter psychology at work that ignores the serious to focus on the utterly trivial. Ingraham, however, clearly skewed any chance at rational dialogue. Not that any was ever expected on these programs. Where is Alan Grayson, Anthony Weiner or Marcy Kaptur for starters? Where is Medea Benjamin or Jeremy Scahill to counter the Beltway watercarriers and rep for a majority of American opinion? Ingraham even defended Dick Cheney. Blow me ABC
If Ingraham only has ACORN then she has nothing. The Republican Party is disintegrating before our eye. I went over to Little Green Snotballs yesterday just to see what they were saying and I was amazed at how they were reigned tot he fact that their Party was over because of the likes of Palin and Beck and and all the rest of the dip shits running the party now.
And I will tell you this, look at online polls on CONSERVATIVE websites and the MAJORITY of people are FOR legalization.
That is actually one thing that conservatives and liberals can agree on: Listening to George Will throw around his bonafides in this argument is the clincher for me. I'm out.
Anyone else notice McConnell on TW defend Republicans by saying "We're going to have a healthcare reform plan? :)
I'm not sure George Will said anything I disagree with, denouncing Cheney for "not taking his time to go chasing non-existant weapons of mass destruction" to saying "this country is at greater threat from hasty decisions than from deliberative ones." :)
On TW, Laura Ingraham says, "The last time I checked, Cheney's numbers were going up."
That's because, as 12%, they have no place left to go but up, Laura.
he's not in office anymore. I expect them to go through the roof when he's six feet under...
George Will tells John Podeta on TW, "If you REALLY want to go after the Mexican Drug Cartels, you legalize marijuana."
Too many Republicans are tight to the drugs business. That's why legalization will never take place
Here's a good one from "Barron's Insight" by Kopin Tan:
Want a place to invest??? You can't go wrong with Corrections Corporation of America (CXW) Daily share price as of Friday, 1 p.m.: $25.06
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1256416920495...
"For a land of the free, the U.S. has a lot of prisoners: Over the past 25 years, our inmate population has swelled to 2,380,000, from roughly 700,000. Our incarceration rate is THE HIGHEST IN THE WORLD, and our federal prisons are at 137% of their capacity."
I'd invest in drugs and prostitutes before I'd support the private prison system.
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