Wanker Extraordinaire Joe Scarborough: Obama’s Base Didn’t Want Him To Catch Bin Laden
I was out having dinner when I got the alert that President Obama was going to hold a late night press conference regarding National Security. As the media started to leak that the presser was to announce the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden, I looked at my husband and said, "Obama did what Bush couldn't? Oh lord, the right wing nut jobs are going to lose it over this." And anyone checking Twitter last night knows it didn't take them long.
But a very special Wanker Award really must go to MSNBC's Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough, who took douchebagging sour grapes to an all new level this morning:
Here, you know, I think Republicans should stand up and certainly salute Barack Obama for making some — again, for making some very tough choices that his own base did not want him to make. That takes courage, that takes leadership, and we saw the results of that courage and leadership saying no to his own base yesterday.[...]
[These are] decisions that he probably did not believe as a candidate he didn’t think he’d have to make…Going against his own ideological leanings to do what he believes he has to do.
Okay, resisting the urge to say "bite me" for just a second, Joe's petulant little brain probably forgot that POTUS was overwhelmingly elected by "his base" even after this little bit from Candidate Obama during the presidential debates:
“What I have said is we're going encourage democracy in Pakistan, expand our non-military aid to Pakistan so that they have more of a stake in working with us, but insisting that they go after these militants. And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority.”
You know what we call that, Joe?
Mission REALLY Accomplished.
Scarborough still on MSNBC and Olberman gone. That's why I don't watch MSNBC anymore.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Joe Scarborough still sucking at the bush family hole.
It just does not make sense ... Joe Scarborough's on MSNBC and Keith Olberman they let go.
How stupid of MSNBC!
I watch msnbc but would not watch CREEPY JOE!
of Moe reinserting the crayon back in Homers nose...
Joe Scarborough is a disgrace as a journalist.
R.I.P. Lori Klausutis.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
nope.
hack.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The dead intern that was found in Joe Scarborough's congressional office appears to have died of blunt force trauma to her head.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Proving that, to retain credibility, you have to kill them, not get a bj from them. Unbelievable.
a journalist.
He certainly doesn't understand Obama's base in the slightest. He shows a vague and shallow understanding of a lot of things actually - i watched the show one day, and that was enough to tell. That lady beside him was making the face she's displaying above, and shaking her head at what he was saying.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
"He shows a vague and shallow understanding of a lot of things actually" - that is what Mika's Dad told him to his face on that very show. Did Scarborough mention on the show today "Well, when I was in Congress..... blah, blah, blah......."
i disagree, i do think that the liberal/left/progressives WERE unhappy with some of the decisions that led to this operation ("enhanced interrogation", indefinite detention, gitmo's existence, etc.)
as those actions might have helped us kill OBL, but they also might inspire the rise of OBL part deux.
but then he might actually fill in some of the blanks about his family's relationship with the Bush family. Like a mafia capo, he got whacked just before he turned rat.
Lumping the liberal base with the activist Progressives is distorting the actual base that elected the President. Progressives played a role, but they weren't the majority of voters or door-knockers or organizers. Mind you, I'm referring to Progressives, not the liberals that might characterize their principles and beliefs as progressive. Adam Green didn't even start his Progressive action group until 2009. Hamsher wasn't exactly a staunch supporter of Obama, she spent most of her time trying to redefine the candidate Obama's positions on issues important to her "customers". I'm not trying to promote dissension in the ranks, but I get tired of Progressives claiming to be "THE base" when they are only a faction. A faction that resembles the Tea Party on the right when it comes to overstated influence. Joe Scarborough was clearly pointing to the Progressives, the "Free Manning" crowd, when he crafted this spin on the Obama "base". As shocking as it may be to Progressives, the majority of the President's base aren't paying FDL membership dues or waiting breathlessly for the next e-mail asking for donations from Adam Green. And Greenwald? Well, he's neither Progressive or Liberal, he's closer to a part-time Libertarian and contrarian.
Is there "truth" in his wanker-ness? I suppose, if you consider 15% of the President's "base" significant.
so, trying to follow your response to my post, you imply that liberals were happy with 'enhanced interrogation', indefinite detention and gitmo (see, bush terrorism policies)? i don't remember that. i seem to remember that obama campaigned on closing gitmo, on stopping indefinite detention, and the such... and that rank and file dems were ecstatic at the thought of that.
no?
or maybe i am just not getting what you wrote (very possible)
I don't believe anything "Guantanamo" lead to this "action." Let's not fall into another republican trap. They are going to turn this whole thing around in futile attempts to bolster themselves. It's disgusting, but this is what they do.
We have nothing to explain to them. Nothing.
Detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had given the courier’s pseudonym to American interrogators and said that the man was a protégé of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/...
and we should expect that argument (gitmo = good) to come a'spewin from the torture-happy right wing. and, personally, i will concede that they did, in fact, get some actionable intel from gitmo detainees (this is not to say HOW they got the info--which is a crucial factoid we'll never learn).
but, and what my initial post alluded to, the story is more complicated than that. yes, gitmo detainees might have provided that info, but at what cost? how many more militants did gitmo inspire, how did it help with 'recruitment', etc?
with the premise that any of the things you listed had anything to do with this.
The guy was holed up on an estate 20minutes from the capital and next to a military training field.
The Pakistanis knew where he was and it just took the right one giving the information to the CIA. I highly doubt there was any torture involved.
We needed another FDR, instead we got another clinton.
Oh begeezus! Don't speak for me, you asshat!
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
President Obamas' 'base' wants- why or how?
But this whole thing with getting bin Laden stinks to high heaven as well.
Muslims don't bury at sea, that was pure BS.
The raid took place last week but we hear about it now? Sounds like crap to me.
Timed for Bush's "mission accomplished" crap, too convenient.
Obama get's a full recovery after the the birther special he broadcast to the world (that pretty much made him look the fool to everyone except Dems), what nice timing for the elections!
Until they provide more proof than "We did it and tossed him out the helicopter door over the Gulf of Oman" colour me sceptical as all hell.
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
...you just say you hate "the blacks" and get it off your chest.
Why, do you?
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
Wow, that's a serious ad hominem attack you've got going, there.
Obama isn't any better than the guy before him in this regard. Catching Bin Laden (assuming that he "masterminded" 9/11, which is pretty dubious if you dig at it) isn't going to affect either of the "long wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's the beauty of fighting "terrorism" -- they can just claim that someone else is taking his place, and we're back to funding the Military Industrial Complex while we take away peoples' retirement and health benefits. This isn't about "hating the blacks", it's about seeing Obama as a politician, not as some sort of perfect liberal. He's far from that.
Just know that a lot of people need to dance on grave of someone. Terrorism has torn our Constituition, our government and our fiscal sanity from us. They just don't understand that the wealthy could and would have invented OBL to topple us.
Obama looks like a fool? seem to me he's having the best week ever, but I do live in the real world.
... made him look like a fool here in the UK.
I had to explain what the hell is wrong with the people of the US that he would have to do this and then after explaining that the majority of you are mental midgets they then turned to making fun of a leader who would stoop to rolling in the dirt for these clowns.
Sorry guy, you live in the US. I on the other hand live in the real world.
Big difference.
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
Hmmm, that's not what I'm hearing from the UK.
What I'm hearing from the UK is that they hate Trump. That they think He's the fool. Perhaps it's the circles you live in?
But hey, what do I know? I have family there. And they live in a conservative area of Scotland.
I find particularly funny that they mock him because of his last name. Trump. In Scottish slang, means fart. Symes? is that you?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Not like I actually live here right now this moment and didn't have to deal with what I just described last Thursday or anything.
Like I said, mental midgets.
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
I was speaking with my brother this morning. Wanna try for two?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
I was speaking with about 20 of my coworkers over lunch on Thursday while it was airing.
You want to try again?
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
But you can keep trying. It's entertaining. Wrong, but entertaining none the less.
Now, before you respond, I just want to say, have a nice day.
Thanks for the laughs.:)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
how'd that royal wedding work out for you?
it starts here
me-oww!
I missed that one.
TFR
Thankfully.
none of us has friends or family outside the US. Like muddy, whose parents were UK nationals. Or me, who spent yonks in the UK. We've lost all contact and will now rely on a bitter expat for all of our UK Truths. Never mind, we can get arseloads of media online as well that will fill us in as well. Why fucking bother? We've got you.
We get it. You hate the US, and you are playing the expat in the office who thinks anyone who hasn't left the US is a moron. You must have attained a level of coolness among your co-workers in the UK you never dreamt was possible while you were in the US.
me-oww!
South central England. They have a lot of hate goin on there right now.
Budget cuts, muslims, catholics, the royals. It's obvious the circles he runs in.
One would think that he'd get dizzy by now. :)
a right proper wanker indeed.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
what with all the time he spends hating online here at C&L.
Fuck. If I was there, I'd be partying down with a load of Mancunians, souf Londeners and eastenders, not on-twatting-line
me-oww!
Staunch Ranger supporters. My brother, Celtic. They love him. He plays it smart though. He told me everyone he knows in Troon, Wishaw, Motherwell, Kilbride, and Ayr (all very conservative areas) hate Trump. They loath him.
As for this guy up there? eh.
Just another hatin troll.
I wonder how he feels about the reconquistadores?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
We thought Bush was a fool, as well. And he somehow had two consecutive terms as "The Decider". Unfortunately, being sane, rational and/or competent are not qualifications to be President.
I can believe that. We cater to the lunatics here, so it's no surprise that we lend them credence by dignifying their stupid antics with an official response.
It's like someone saying that the President is white, but wears dark makeup to appear otherwise -- why the hell would you actually go out of your way to prove these idiots wrong? They're never going to like you -- they'll just find another excuse to find you as an interloper.
fact that his republican opponents are batshit crazy and looking for any reason to discredit his presidency makes him look like a fool? The fact that he showed the document and that sent them in all directions of stupid is in his disfavor??
Yes, it was to his disfavor, because he caved to white privilege. If it was really the right thing to do, then why did it cause so much upset, anger...tears, even?
You're so far left, you're right.
Paranoid fucker.
I just don't believe the first thing your government spews any more, more often than not it is complete fabrication.
You should have learned that by now.
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
fellow, what was he, Bush's poodle? Please look at yourself first.
Proof that Questioning Authority is always the right thing to do.
Muslims do bury at sea. The critical part of Muslim ritual is to bury the dead before the next prayers. They asked Saudi Arabia if they wanted the body and it was declined. There is wisdom to not providing an opportunity to create a shrine to a martyr.
And the information that the raid happened last week was not confirmed intell. I was on a conference call with a Sr. Admin official and he said that the plan began to take shape last week as they felt confident that they had the right place. The raid occurred last night.
And the only people who look foolish about the birther crap are the birthers. Donald Trump, for example, looks like an utter and complete fool. But don't let that bother your pretty little white privileged head about that.
I'm Mexican/Native American, but don't let that stop your little narrative.
"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy
You're the one with all the answers of how this went down, international perspectives and Muslim burial rituals. Don't let those pesky contradictory facts get in your way, my man, from getting your hate on.
he's Huichol/Tewa but living in London as a citizen of the UK now.
We have seen how the urbanized Huichol living by the mestizo system of values,
are burdened by their awareness of a supposed inferiority and their despair at having
lost their roots. We have seen amongst them the havoc wreaked by alcoholism,
crime and total destitution, and by illness and destruction of the family unit.
TFR
Taking a body of a person killed on land out to the middle of the ocean and dumping it doesn't sound like respect for any religious burial beliefs. Even your Wikipedia article noted that it's only acceptable to Muslims in certain circumstances (like a death at sea) which don't seem to apply here. The excuse of respecting religion simply doesn't cut it.
And while there may be "wisdom [in] not providing an opportunity to create a shrine to a martyr," there is also wisdom in being able to prove your claims. Right now the government has left us with nothing more than "trust us; he's the guy responsible for 9/11; and we got him."
And like it or not, this is the death of a man whose family has been highly connected in the U.S. government for decades over an incident that is still the matter of extensive myth and speculation (in large part because explanations such as those given by the 9/11 Commission have focused more on covering asses than providing analysis and explanation).
It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist or a bigot to smell something fishy here - just a skeptical nose.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Situation dictates the terms on this ......corpse. It's done. It's over. He's dead. Who gives a flyin fuck now?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
If there is danger the body will be dug up, which is arguably a likelihood here. Really, I have no issue with this choice, and frankly, it makes the most sense to me of the options available.
And my understanding is that they are doing DNA testing on blood at the site, comparing it to DNA samples taken of Osama's sister who died not that long ago. They have pictures, videos and DNA sampling.
I understand being skeptical, but at some point, I think you have say that the evidence does point to Osama being killed.
As to his being an American asset at one time, this is true. We've made many, many very short-sighted alliances that have come back to bite us in the ass (or that we've bitten in the ass) when times change. Doesn't make his death any less true.
Lee Harvey OswaldSaddam HusseinOsama bin LadenWho's Next?
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
If we're talking about evidence that can be confirmed independently, that's one thing. But we appear to be talking about nothing more than then the government's word on things.
"Yeah. We have DNA confirmation. See these pieces of paper."
or
"Here. Check these samples we have. It's the same family."
When Ken Lay died, the New York Post had one of their few headlines I ever agreed with: "Check the Coffin" or words to that effect. Because Ken Lay had the motive, the means, and the connections to simply disappear and enjoy the money.
OBL also had all three. And the main reason/excuse that I've been reading for dumping the body before any confirmation could be done is "respect for Muslim beliefs."
That's bullshit. Avoiding a memorial for followers/martyrs (you know, like we did when we executed Tim McVeigh then dumped his body in the ocean) might fly. Except that it still doesn't explain why some independent organization wasn't brought in to verify the remains.
If this does become a conspiracy theory, it was caused (designed?) by actions taken by the administration.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
"Abottabad information speaking."
"Uh, yeah, uhm, ma'am, this is Lieutenant Perkins of the U.S. Navy. I'd like the number for the Abbotabad coroner's office."
"One moment."
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Sheesh, it's not rocket science.
Why did the body have to be disposed of so quickly? Without independent verification?
Because the only other option was to call Pakistan 911? Doubtful.
But what's wrong with calling Pakistan 911? They couldn't handle a dead body? They wouldn't confirm it's OBL? They wouldn't bury it in time?
Was it respect for religious beliefs?
None of that makes sense.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
The radicals don't have a body, and more importantly, a location (well, the sea..) to rally around.
And it was done quickly in accordance with Muslim tradition. I'm sure it was heavily video taped. So the appearance of respecting Muslim tradition is presented, but in reality, I'd bet it was quite different.
I wonder if the body was washed down with a power washer at 2500 PSI that they clean deck equipment with (I'll bet it was) and then tipped into the ocean, or just thrown in, with the video being made of a dummy under a sheet. I doubt the video will be totally legit.
I'll bet there was some well deserved desicration that went on. After all, many of the victims of 9-11 were reduced to powder and never found, so why should OBL get a better, proper burial. Probably his brain is in a jar on the way to the WH museum to sit next to Saddam's pistol, and his penis and balls on their way to THE DICK Cheney to suck on.
All of this would only be of concern to theists. You know, the Christians and Muslims that like to kill each other for Allah, or God.
It's easy enough to do. Then have whoever they want get their rocks off by desecrating a dead body. Who cares? Well, except for those who get off on that kinda thing.
And it's a concern because the excuse for dumping the unverified body into the ocean was respect for religion - except that an actual respect for religion would pretty much negate the option of dumping the body in the ocean.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
with a few military families who've had family members buried at sea. It was a very common practice at one time. When the US government brought up a hunk of the Soviet submarine K-129
using the Glomar explorer the remains of the soviet crewman still aboard were put right back in the sea with appropriate honors.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
If that's common, then my google skills must be lacking because I can't even find one instance of that happening.
Unless of course the K-129 was one of those subterranean submarines Jules Verne wrote about.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Maybe that's what "in accordance with...etc" Really, fomenting MORE murderous and angry bullshit by mistreating the body would be stupid.
My news said the location was verified on Friday and the raid took place yesterday, less than 24 hours ago. Although, they claim a DNA match was made. Which I was given to understand it takes more than a day to verify that. But there's fingerprints visual ID...blah blah blah. I thought chronic severe kidney disease killed him off awhile back
me-oww!
Really?
What do you think happened to the bodies of all of those old pilgrims (yes, many of them are old, having to have saved for decades to make the trip) who died while making the Haj? You know, those from the Phillipines, Indonesia, Malaya, etc.?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
This is what Obama said last night:
If he's lying, that would be a rather large story, and it will come out, soon.
...the dead might be dug up, a burial at sea is permitted.
Why don't you just look it up at wiki first?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
the Dead Sea. it's just like Catholics, who bury theirs in the Holy Sea.
TFR
of the operation was to give Bin Laden an appropriate funeral.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Haha, you are such a tool i'm not even going to pretend i'm going to be nice to you.
Being sceptical is one thing, being a conspiracist is something completly else.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
"Bless me father for i have sinned. Those crimes that i committed, well, i did 'em again. Empty my soul to empower yours. Lead me blind down the path to salvation's doors."
...of this Joe Scarborough guy.
When can we get him canned?
..Liberals didn't want senseless war and destruction. Try and keep up, Joe.
This was vastly different than sending a small group of special forces to kill/capture a specific man in a specific house. In fact, that sounds exactly how I heard liberals suggesting we capture murderers from other countries, all along. Diplomatic, police-like, surgical, with little to no civilian casualties, and relatively inexpensive!
So... uh. Yeah. This actually was against YOUR BASE'S way of doing things. Which would've been to invade the country, or firebomb his city block from above.
We should ask Joe what else the Obama supporters base wants and doesn't want, ya know just see how far into bizarro backwards world he can go?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Now the mission is finally accomplished and we can bring all our troops home to protect us from terror attacks.
I'm a little confused, was that a snarky comment?
Quotes from officials in Iraq and Aghanistan have suggested recently EXTENDING the deadline further than the president's already-postponed withdrawal dates. With no mention of terrorism at all. It's just to protect their corrupt governments.
Yes. But I wish it were true.
Actually, I know we're there for the oil.
Fuck the oil, have you seen the military budget lately? Them bombs ain't gonna get made if we don't have some dark people to drop them on.
But the MIC would have less traction if it were not for the support of Big Oil.
If Al Qaeda did not exist, war profiteers would have to invent it.
Too late. It wasn't real until we invented it.
...in Afghanistan, we're there for the minerals we get from China.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Back when he was CEO of a pipeline building company?
What was Russia's interest when they invaded Afghanistan and were run off?
It's to protect and continue the money laundering operations . Our tax dollars transferred by the billions and trillions to the arms and weapons manufacturers , the sub contractors and to the fat cats on Wall Street . I wonder who pocketed the pallets of dollars that disappeared over there , the Republicans blocked Democrats request for an investigation , never was even allowed a vote . Eh , t'was pocket change , right ?
Site your source Scarborough, where is the evidence to back up your extraordinary statement.
'Talk to the hand'
the republican leadership.
I was wondering why why Joe was all sad and somber this morning; you woulda' though Obama shot his dog.
I guess his somberness is for a good reason; One less boogeyman for the Conservatives to use in the 2012 election.
I feel sorry for Mika. Not often. She plays her airhead part very well. But, the screen grab up there, just makes me feel sorry for her. Maybe pity is a better choice of words. Don't worry, this will pass very quickly.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Killer Joe has a pulse on the Progressive community.
We did not bury a Muslim at sea,
we jettisoned the garbage.
Got a problem with that and you
can join him in Davie Jones locker.
(In accordance with sharia law a
body may be disposed of at sea
if the body may be dug up.)
to see even the educated left-leaning blogs in America cheering for the murder of that man, regardless of his crimes. At least he was found guilty during a trial of...oh right, the military told us he was guilty...well at least, it's not like the US military has ever lied to the world to advance its geopolitical aims...oh right...well at least the anti-war left is outraged at the killing...not even close. So does that mean the permanent bases are taken down in Iraq and Afghanistan where there were hundred of thousands of collateral casualties in the US revenge rampage for 9/11? No? Ok, I guess we'll just have to stomach another round of clueless flag waving by a country that is definitely proving its barbarism is equal to its ignorance.
One more extrajudicial killing ..
Our President is supposed to protect The Constitution.
That's ALL his oath says.
"The President's most important job is protecting the American people," is bunk.
GW started that, Obama stepped right into GW's shoes.
Where's the Rule Of Law?
Oh .. and just to clarify .. I am NOT a part of "Obama's base" ..
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
For what, really, is the base of an Oreo? Is it the crumby black exterior or the soft white filling?
TFR
Mob rule is now considered "Democracy"
If the police take out a hostage taker by using a sniper should they be sent to jail. I'll tell you what, wave a gun in a cop's face and tell him it's his duty to arrest you, read you your rights and see that you get a fair trial. It will be an interesting experiment.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
~Mark Twain
"Banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." Thomas Jefferson
he would have joined with the throngs of cheering idiots, like they were a big part of the 'victory'. I'm guessing the body disappearing was part of the deal made with Pakistan, so it wasn't brought back to the states where I'm sure it would have been a big event, to dip your fingers in his blood somehow. Probably could link it with another asinine yearly celebration, like the SuperBowl or Black Friday. Heck, I don't even know why I'm surprised and disgusted by this, once Obama was elected, this site started an interesting balancing act between the principles that were defended during the Bush year, and cheering Obama onwards even though he was basically doing the same thing. Enjoy your 2012 elections, either way the world loses.
....this site started an interesting balancing act between the principles that were defended during the Bush year, and cheering Obama onwards even though he was basically doing the same thing.
Yes. I have noticed the same thing.
You know the old adage, "It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game?" That's a lesson taught to kids in the hope of them becoming decent people, but when it comes to politics in the USA, WINNING IS EVERYTHING.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Twain was a better man than I .
Oops. Wrong country. But I see your point. We are a land of barbaric sheeple. TV is our God now.
Jessica Lynch was a super-hero as well. Pat Tillman was killed by the enemy. It was all fixed in the rewrites. "24" is more proof that we must abandon logic and reason - to save us from reality.
Money has always been your god.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Robert Fisk on Bin Laden death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTZPjB4WHQs
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Nicole, how did you feel when Mark Mckinnon and Nicole Wallace said its not political... yeah right the hands behind Sara Palin in the last election saying Obama couldn't make the tough decisions. Just need to ask yourselfs how these two would act if this had gone bad. Need examples? Just look at how they painted Carter with Iran rescue failure and Clinton with Somalia. These two cant even say Obama made one hell of a gutsy call. Thank you President Obama for Clear mind and decision making on this one and a Job well done by him, the CIA and the Navy Seals.
are so disingenuous it was all I could do not to launch into one long expletive laden tirade.
Yeah, that "no label" thing has quietly gone away since teatards have gone mainstream. Nice way to try to get the ol' "Republican brand is dogfood" thing off the table.
And we're already forgetting that the "Long Wars" and Bush Tax Cuts are the reason why everyone is crying about austerity.
...for their candidate to be so republican't in his leadership.
As far as bin Laden goes, I think most of Obama's base and the rest of the country is glad the bastard is dead [deleted--SM]
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
you to advocate the assassination of world leaders. I've tried it on every john mccain story posted here and it never gets through.
Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
I suppose, if you follow the "official narrative" that he planned and executed many terrorist attacks as the head of an "international terrorist organization". You know, instead of "Al Qaeda" being invented as an excuse to prosecute him under RICO.
That puts him in the same boat as H.W. Bush, and I'm pretty sure he's out golfing or something. No calls for his head. (To clarify, he was ex-head of the CIA, which has done far worse than Bin Laden since its inception.)
The thing I get out of this is that Scarborough made himself look like a horse's ass. What every on of these assholes should have said and should say in the future is, "Obama did a good job with this. This is something this country has needed for a long time. Something to go very correct." And leave it at that. But nooooooooooooooooooo, they have to show what kind of assholes they are.
There is a certain number of people who are going to hate Obama and not give him any credit for anything. That is just the way it is. There are other people who are just the opposite of that. Then there are people in the middle. They see Obama do well and say "great. They see him screw something up and they say "idiot". They see what the Scarboroughs of the world say and do and say these people are "assholes." Scarborough did nothing except prove to most people that he is an asshole and to other people that don't know him well that he is an asshole. No matter how you look at it Scarborough showed that he is a what? An ASSHOLE!
Every Liberal and Dem I know and I know many wanted Osama's head on a platter. This guy talks just to exercise his tongue. and Mika plays Alan Coombs in heels , or did Coombs wear heels to get ready for Hannity. If Scarborough said that it's proof you can't even trust the so called reasonable Conservatives, there simply aren't any.
JimmyPete
Joe has accomplished the impossible. He has shown himself to be an asshole without peer. Mission Accomplished.
I am Obama's base. I am very happy Obama killed the SOB. I wanted Obama to do what it took to kill the SOB. A am pissed that Bush didn't do it in Tora Bora or anyplace else. Scarborough is a dick.
in Iraq and Afghanistan...
I can honestly say I was nothing but pleased to hear bin Laden is dead.
I am not normally the type of person to celebrate anyone's death; but THAT fucker had it coming.
Since I'm Obama's base too, and I'm doing a happy dance that Bin Laden is dead. Morning Joe can kiss his corpse.
Spinny Liberal
Fascists make me itchy
It is the Bush base (of rich, white men) not the Dems who actually love OBL. OBL was a convenient profit tool for their corporations to make more money off government contracts. If they didn't have OBL, we could not have been so easily manipulated into accepting the loss of our Constitutional rights.
Sheeple accept the Patriot act - the warrent-less searches (in person and our property) - the denial of our 14th Amendment - BECAUSE OBL remained at-large. After 10 years, will Sheeple demand their rights back? Not a chance. We've morphed into China - in many of the wrong ways.
God help us if a "Liberal" commits a crime in the USA - the drones may have to strike and no one seems to care because the innocent with be "othered" and called "suspects". If the Liberals fight back we might just see more targeted with Anthrax - like those reigning down upon Dodd, Kennedy, Daschle and Lehey (not to mention the "liberals" in the media).
Reslugs-Teabaggers and Birthers just can't handle the truth that their Prez., Dumbya, said he never much cared where Bin Laden was and just couldn't find him. It was just the oil war for Bush, Cheney and Reslugs.
Scar certainly is a Big Dickhead. What happened to his intern that mysteriously died in his office.?? What did Scar have to do with that??
5/02/2011
What his base “didn’t want him to do”, you threw that load of Flotsam & Jetsam out like we believed it was true… not. Joe, you have to know you’re lying through your Republican teeth. Like American Democrats, the base wanted Osama to live on, you lying sack of Bat Quano.
We wanted Osama Ben laden, more than many and it wasn’t political, it was for many Americans righteous, no party base wanted him free to continue his bull crap, none. I won’t make statements about Conservatives not wanting him caught, because that would be a lie and I sure wouldn’t say; what you said this morning.
When I look at Lying and scum sucking and pig in the dictionary, guess Joe… whose face is there and it isn’t a Democratic Bases face, or Republicans Bases face… Re-track your bull crap.
Ministerbruce
All the repubublican-FOX lies and distortions are testimony of their insecurities. Nothing could be clearer. They may do and say evil things, but they are completely transparent. Joe knows full well that the Bushies, Halliburton, Blackwater, the MIC, and PNAC were better off with Bin Laden on the loose, and they didn't want him killed or captured, and his comments are the confirmation - it's not even veiled - they are a direct mirror image of the reality.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
A dead BinLaden is of no use to Republicans. He was perhaps the greatest boogey-man they could have ever dreamed of.....
and the fact that Obama got him , ohhhhh , that one hurt !
Joe:
We of the Obama liberal base are having a giant party on the streets tonight!
Come and join us if you dare!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
'Talk to the hand'
I'm a member of Obamas base and I always thought I DID want Obama to catch Bin Laden. Thank god Joe Scarborough is there to set me straight about that. I wonder what else I think I want or need that Joe Scarborough could set me straight on......
to remain viable. No shortage of those apparently.
He, he's on TV honey!
Scarborough gets away with totally reversing things. It's like in Seinfeld, we live in Bizarro world because it's actually his base (who actually funded, trained, aided and ran OBL for a very long time, not to mention there is no indication he ever went rogue) that doesn't want OBL caught or killed.
They make too good a living from the phony war on terra' and their rhetoric relies upon their being a bogeyman (aka a live threat) to play their parlor tricks. This says nothing about what evidence there is, or isn't, that it was OBL who was killed or, frankly, whether OBL had anything to do with 9/11.
Is calling bin Laden USAma and pronouncing his name as "yousama". Talk about traitorous scum putting U, S and A within this jackals name.
FOX sucks Tora Bora!
Frank Zappa - Make A Jazz Noise Here
and I think the MSM whore media went with Osama BECAUSE they saw that USAma didn't look too good.
Fuck You
NOBODY 2012
LOL, best post evah. No, srsly.
Evah, i tell you :p
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
"Bless me father for i have sinned. Those crimes that i committed, well, i did 'em again. Empty my soul to empower yours. Lead me blind down the path to salvation's doors."
I am part of Obamas base and when I heard about OBL being killed of course it brought tears to my eyes of sadness that the poor mr bin laden had been so mistreated by that bully Obama. What a Jeanie he is. Thank you so much for letting the amercan people and me for that matter that I was sad that Obama killed Osama. IT TOOK OBAMA TO KILL OSAMA!!!!!!
stephen
Morning Jerk.....
That's news to me Joe Blowhard. Gee, how would we ever know what we think if we didn't have the conservative media telling us?
If it was the Rethugs that got it done (ha, ha, would never happen) then they would have made it political.
Your little scphiel is very revealing. You basically said it feels good because a Dem POTUS did it.
And a horse's ass.
that his own base didn't want him to make ? What a jackass .
Fortunately there will be 10 more to replace him. Kill them, and 10 more will replace each one we kill. We created Osama. He searved the military industrial complex, and was worth trillions of dollars, or should I say he cost trillions? It all depends on your perspective!:)
The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx
I'll be happy to say it for you: BITE ME, JOE, YOU WANKER!!!
Question: What does mika do besides sit at his side and gaze at him worshipfully? If she were MY daughter, Id make her leave such a demeaning, sexist job. Have you no self-respect at all, woman?
Scarborough's comments are unAmerican
Any doubt this guy is a GOPer propagandist? If NBC had any sense or integrity as a journalism organization, they'd be ashamed and embarrassed that they ever gave this asshat and his fawning side kick a forum.
Isn't it possible that Joe's error was not mistaking what Obama's base wanted him to do, but in mistaking those on the left who call themselves the Base for Obama's base. After all, they are the ones who wanted him to go after Bush/Cheney, not Osama. They are the ones who criticize him for keeping troops in Afghanistan, from which the mission to take out Osama was launched. They keep saying they are the Base. Who is Joe to deny such a plaintive group of victims of mass back stabbing?
TFR
You mean, they're the ones whose political convictions didn't change because Obama became President? Damn them!
regardless of their convictions, claim to be what they are not.
TFR
They're part of the Democratic base, so I don't see how they're claiming to be what they're not. But, let me get this straight- you disagree with Joey Scar on the point that they are "Obama's base", but you agree with everything else he said?
I'll say it again- they're people whose political convictions didn't change because Obama became President. That makes them more honest, trustworthy, and worthy of respect than the Obama cultists who suddenly started calling themselves "pragmatic" and "non-ideological" so they could cosign everything Obama says or does. That's pure weaselism.
First off, the one thing I hate to say: Joe Scarborough is right -- as a socialist, liberal, and activist as all hell about it member of the leftwing base, I had already came to the conclusion that Bin Laden was dead along time ago but artificially kept alive as a boogie man by politicians of all stripes to keep the "marks" on board -- much like WWE pro-wrestling generates far more interest and revenue when the face keeps trying and failing to the belt away from the heel. Thus the last thing I wanted or expected was Obama (or any President) catching or killing Bin laden.
Why?
This is the part that I'm gonna love saying: PEOPLE LIKE JOE! It didn't make a hill of beans who captured or killed Bin Laden, when, and how. The bottom line was rightwing Tali-Born Again kooks like him were gonna hoot, holler, dance in the streets, and carry on all about it, and thus proving they're no different than Bin Laden.
Sure enough, that's exactly what happened -- to the point where I turned off WWE programming on USA last night because Vince McMahon, The Rock, and John Cena did everything and anything they possible could short of burning a Koran in the middle of the ring to tell Bin Laden's successor the same message of "blow our sorry asses up next time" by joining in on the media's celebratory orgy of jingoism, nationalism, and military pandering. I don't know what in the world deluded them into believing copyright laws and the DMCA is gonna stop Al-Queda from using WWE's own footage in their next recruitment video to justify any retaliation over Bin Laden ... and I don't wanna find out by watching more WWE programming -- seven second delay be damned.
Joe Scarsboro and Mark McKinnon does not have everyone fooled ... Obama base was not against anything - They did not know his intentions!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Repukes, We know you are steaming that it was Obama that caused an end to Bin Ladin!! If this was not the case you would not be showing how you are forcing yourselves to act pleased about the secretive killing of Bin Ladin. You would have been so much more thrilled if Bush did the killing! The Big Jerk killed the wrong Osama!
You could feel the Repukes pain having to give credit to Obama for this great achievment!!!
Will the Repukes ever learn, we are all in the same boat ... our future is at stake!!!
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