This Week: Arnold Schwarzenegger Admits Americans Want Democratic Governing
For his many faults, you gotta love the politician in California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger that admits that essentially, the majority of Americans want the government to focus on Democratic Party platforms, not the rigid ideology of the current Republican Party of cutting taxes above all else.
I think you can also make it very simple, and that is, you know, that Republicans have not provided for what the people need. And I think that's why Jindal is partially right on that, or he's right on that, because, you know, it is all about what the people of America need right now, and have we provided that as a party? [..]
Let me tell you something. When it comes to building roads and people driving on the roads -- it's Democrats, Republicans, independents, decline to state -- everyone wants to use those roads.
Everyone's kids -- Republicans' kids, Democrats' kids -- everyone is in the school. They want to have great education. When it comes to clean air and protecting our environment and fighting global warming, everyone in America wants to be part of that.
They absolutely do. Americans want to know that levees will not fail and force them out of their homes, bridges will not collapse during rush hour and that we're providing our children with the most opportunity to succeed for the future, not to mention a non-polluted world to live in. And as is patently obvious, that won't come from Republican governance. Even the Governator know that the Republican Party has lost their way:
Remember that so many times there's dialogue about, you know, we have to go back to our core values. What is that? What is core? How far does core go back in history in America, the word core? Does it go back 30 years? Does it go back 50 years? Because we know that Teddy Roosevelt talked about universal health care. So they're off the core for a long time ago already. He has talked about protecting our environment. So they've been off for a long time on that. I mean, let's be honest. Ronald Reagan -- let's go to Eisenhower, for instance. Eisenhower has built the highway system in America and he's poured billions of dollars into infrastructure. Where Republicans today say, well, that's spending. We shouldn't spend. That's not spending. That's investing in the future of America.
So there's a lot of things that they have been off on, if they want to go and talk about the core values. But maybe their definition of core values is maybe different. But I mean, so I think it's all nonsense talk. I think if they just talk about one thing, what do we need now? Now, America needs to be rebuilt, because we haven't really rebuilt America for decades. So we need to rebuild America, fix the bridges, fix the highways, fix the buildings, tunnels and all of those kind of things we need to do. And then we have to go and create great relationships with our partners overseas, with the world, and to build those relationships again. And we have to take care of health care. We have to take care of our environment. And we have to build an energy future. Those are the things that people want right now. And I know in the poll numbers in America -- I mean in California, that's what the people want.
See? Like Arnold says, the people don't want today's Republican Party.
He IS a closet Dem. =)
his statements mean nothing.
look at his policies as governor.
just like raygun, AS smiles and lies.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpTjtK9t-vA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
seem to be all about social values. They're anti-abortion and for capital punishment. For the right to spank their children and against gay marriage. I like what The Governator is saying, though. For a Republican, he's not so awful.
Formerly Anonymous:
Indeed. Now that Republicans have largely driven away their Goldwater/libertarian/fiscal discipline leaders and constituency, they are left with cultural authoritarianism. Neo-fascists and theocrats are all they have left, and GOP stands for nothing more than Guardians Of Prejudice.
I don't like Gov. Schwarzenegger, but I'm not wholly and completely hostile to him, since he's not a rabid authoritarian.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
as he speaks.
no one ever calls him on it.
our media is doing it's job of making ahnold palatable.
then the dems will try to overturn the constitutional requirement of americn-born for the presidency.
and he'll run in 2012.
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CoIntelPro:
True enough. I'll never vote for the guy.
Heh, do you think it can be done in four years? Two-thirds of the House, two-thirds of the Senate, and three-fourths of the states? Seems a tall order, but I suppose it could happen.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
I believe the two millionaire parties capable of anything.
patriot act
surveillance
authorize force
etc.
we know the litany.
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statements are not policy.
have a look at what he does.
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An Obama Echo. Hooray!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bfKCk3cRTM
then he said jundal was right
fuck ahnold
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There is a big difference between west coast republicans, northeast republicans who are the minority in their party and the southern republicans that control the party.
not really.
check their voting records before you say that.
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you don't think there is a difference between Arnold or Mike Bloomberg (who was/is a Republican) and Jesse Helms or Strom Thurmaond? I'm from the south and grew up with those politicians. I live in NYC now, believe me, I know first hand there is a difference especially on social issues
The only difference is their appeearance ,i stipulate...
Arnold is not so stupid to create panic.He WANTS people to accept him,to be as much likable as possible and after this speech 1 thing popped into my mind: he will run in 2012.He already is researching how could he change the constitution.
And as the wise guy above us said, look what they've done few years ago:patriot act,torture issue,motives to invade iraq etc.
There is an old Chinese saying: If you capture your enemy, bribe him or try to make him work for you.Its alot more cheaper. (in that context at least ;) )
But it is true, CORE VALUES is nonsense.I too allways felt this approach was wrong.
Cheers
Check out George at the 4:30 mark. He looks like he's got a schoolboy crush on Arnold.
just like he had on the clenis.
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Uh, yeah, everyone wants to use them. But Republicans don't want the government to invest in the infrastructure to make them safe.
Heh, I'm not sure everyone in America wants to be a part of that. Know Knothing Knation is still quite strong. In any case, it's all just peachy to say that people want bipartisan solutions to all of these problems, but the Republicans have been actively campaigning against public education and environmental regulation.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
the repug code for dems caving to repugs.
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That's exactly right, CoIntelPro.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
it's like the last 8 years didn't happen.
I wonder what the hell is wrong with them.
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CoIntelPro:
Somehow Charlie Brown always wants to believe Lucy will hold the ball steady for him this time. No matter how poorly the rest of the Peanuts gang treats him, he still remains true to his principles that all the kids deserve to play in the game.
Reconciliation and bipartisanship can be the acts of grown-ups. But reconciliation with Republicans who feel Democrats are not legitimate players in the first place, and who have no intention of negotiating in good faith, is the act of an extremely naive person, a masochist or an abuse victim.
I suppose we can choose which one the Democrats actually are. In any case, the Republicans will move the ball away as the Democrats try to kick it. It's just what they do.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
so they must be lying
and that makes them complicit.
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Stupidity often trumps Machiavelli in politics, but that would be the other option. They're just corrupt.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
When Repubs trash "Kal-ee-fornia" as being all things elitist/leftist/socialist, do they also bring up the fact that their Governor was a former action movie star and bodybuilder? Of course not, he's only prevented from being their choice for Pres. cuz he can't be. Oh the irony. Thankfully if you ask me. I cant imagine the race for the White House getting more ridiculous than it did this year.
What was the appeal of Arnold in the first place, that he would use Terminator like powers to resurrect California?
I thought people were smarter out there, what with all the latte sippers and electric car users and sandal wearers, all them types. They's sposed to be smarter
Radix Omnium Malorum Avaritia
nazi past.
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Don't mention the war
me-oww!
daddy's great adventure.
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National origin won't matter as we move to a one world government/currency.
somehow we fail to notice that all the governments of the industialized world are all speaking of bailouts.
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. . . you gotta love the politician in California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger . . .
Heh, yeah. The guy who vetoes the only gay marriage bill passed by any legislature in the U.S., but tries to rationalize it by saying that only the people or the courts have authority on the issue.
And then turns around, and says he's against Prop. 8, but won't really go out and campaign hard for it.
He laments the loss, and then acts as our coach, telling us to keep pumping up.
Definitely a cynical politician.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
and failing miserably
when ahnold won the recall election, he came in as a fiscal conservative
then he tried to ram a special election down the throat of voters...saying that the propostions were the only way to save cali
he might have been right...but it looked like a power grab...and he lost big time
immediatly, he turned around and became a moderate...and he has spent and wasted more then davis could ever have imagined
rebuild our infrastucture? with what?
for years, our state prided itself on providing free college education to anyone that wanted it...all you had to pay is fees....now the state university system is about to turn away thousands because we are broke
why cant the repugs just admit it...they are failures
end of story
you are a witness.
stephie was too busy stroking the schwartzenegger schwahnstuckhe to focus on the sorry state of Cali affairs.
again, as if it need mention, the media does it's job of presenting the repugs as palatable and reasonable.
all lies and talking points.
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maybe the republicans should look to ahnold for leadership.
i know peeps here hate republicans no matter what. but if more republicans were like ahnold i think america would be better served, democratically.
ultimately though america needs a multi party system for long term political security. to keep the national dialog serious and on the issues. even if republicans offer a real alternative in the middle, someday down the road america may find itself in the same ridiculous nonsense politics like in the last 16 years.
You mean bs catchphrases, such as "compassionate conservatism", a "culture of life", and "against nation-building"? That fits Arnie and most Republicans to a tee.
... is a 'progressive republican party'.
All the old crap has been tried and found wanting.
Time to bury Reagan, the Bushes, the religious nuts and make government a part of american business, if for nothing else than to keep an eye on the corrupt greedy criminals who see the economy as a bottomless trough to enrich themselves.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
look a bit closer after the smoke clears and tell me what a special guy ahnold is. and have a look at his record.
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i'm just saying hes a step up from the some other republicans. like ones that dont even acknowledge that the environment is an issue.
VERBALLY? SURE.
it stops there.
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Nixon, Reagan, and Bush 2 are proof of why drugs are bad-since everyone who voted them in was clearly high at the time.
So why do you keep dicking our state over on funding for these services, jerk?
its rather simple
I have a family member who has been a school teacher in California for over thirty years. The teachers have to buy paper and pencils for the kids because the schools are so under funded. Arnie wants to layoff the teachers instead of funding education.
Talk is cheap and Repukes have a lot of Cheap Talk!
Yes some of these statements he is quoted as saying here in this article are good and frankly surprising considering the source but Arnie is a Repuke and he governs like other Repukes.
Down with the Greedy Old Party!
I bet the richer counties do not have that problem.
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is that he has studied american history more than most of our house of congress and senate.
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Arnold is a little out of touch with his party. This clip wouldn't play well over at RedState.dumb.
I liked Arnie since I got into body building back in 1984, I know he hasn't been perfect as a politician. But he's still an inspiration to me.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
without his shirt recently. the steroids have worn off. you'll puke.
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How the US News Media Fails Us
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
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AND THEY TROT AHNOLD OUT TO LOOK LIKE A SANE REPUG.
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Arnold is a decent governer, he just needs to reign in that stupid "no new taxes" bullshit mantra from his party. Tax my fucking ass off but then I want to drive down a smooth and modern highway. Again, WTF are these people smoking? Wow, tax revenue? To pay for government progams and services????! Asshole Repugnic*nts. Some of us are trying to get something done here instead of jackin' off with Jesus.... Idiots, most of the lot of them.
I have one question for every politician who has an "R" or "D" behind their name who keeps saying "bipartisan" and things like 'I want to serve AMERICAN values, not Democratic or Republican values.' Here's that question: Why do you belong to one of the two major political parties in America if you want no distinctions?
If the United States' citizenry wanted a mixture of Republican and Democratic policies you would have seen that on November 4th. Instead it was an deluge of Democratic victories all over the country (except the South) in all levels.
So Arnold,
If you believe what your shoveling in this clip.
Why did you vote against Obama ?
Why do you affiliate with the Republican party?
They do not believe in anything you said. So how do
you identify with todays republicans?
And by the way Arnold, Hows your buddy Darrel Issa.?
Arnie repeatedly above says "they"(republicans)... 'they.. 'they'....
however, if he wasnt a coward, and IF(!!) he was an honest man, he would
have said 'we'.. and 'I'...
but alas, he is a coward, and a liar.
Everyone's kids -- Republicans' kids, Democrats' kids -- everyone is in the school. They want to have great education.
That's incorrect. Lots of Republican knuckleheads think that the rich nobility should attend private schools and the unwashed Wal-mart masses should just homeschool (i.e. no school). This guarantees an end to class mobility and a return to traditional values... a.k.a. "compassionate feudalism".
Arnold's talking style is kinda rambling. Can you imagine Arnold and Palin on a ticket? We would need a team of interpreters. There would be hours of punditry devoted to interpretations of what they are actually saying.
That's understandable. As another person whose native language is not English, I say that I also ramble.
Palin, of course, is unacceptable for a supposedly "real" American.
If Republicans could get Schwarzenegger's message, then they'd be RELEVANT again...
You could hear this and say WOW!
But it's not what they're saying. It's what they're not saying. Look for difference between word and deed.
Finally, someone who can lead the Republican party into the correct direction.
Hopefully, his wife influences him even more now than ever.
How soon you forget the bullying name calling of Obama and Kerry by this man. He can sink as low as his testicles are now due to his prolonged use of steroids. How much influence does Maria have, how much Dem. like pillow talk transfers into policies? Did this man have a clue at all before the Repugs thought the Terminator was a fantasy of themselves as Republican heroes?
Until the republicans realize that we love america just as much as they do and maybe even more. Arnold is right. People want to really take care of country first and families. We want some type of single payer plan for healthcare for people who really need it. My son works at a restaurant and pays for healthcare for himself and his daughter that is really high. Now that is alot for a young man to pay when he really doesn't make much. He doesn't want to put his child on TNcare because he doesn't want a handout. He can qualify for some aid but won't get it because he thinks to many people take advantage already. I told him he is entitled to it because we all pay our taxes. I worry because my husband and I are tapping into our savings to help him. But I understand where he is coming from.
Southern Yankee
Republicans don't love this country which is why they would prefer fascism or theocracy. They want a form of government where the minority rules over the will of the people.
I don't call that loving my country, I call that remaking it in my selfish interest.
The rebranding has begun. By the time the first term is over, Iraq will be the democrats fault...
he makes a great point about the GOP's "core values". What are those exactly and when did they change so radically? This Republican Party is nothing at all like the one my Dad was a lifelong member of.
Once they took in the radical religious right, they began to marginalize themselves and all the true conservatives know it, which is why they are abandoning the party. All that leaves is neocons and religious fanatics who have too much access to media.
I never understood how the Terminator could stand for the Stepford Husbands.
Perhaps the mighty guy will see the light and fire a nice fat July 4th rocket at Bush's backside yet.
The problem is that all the things that he talks about as being "core values" are things that George Bush and the Republican party doesn't support. They'd rather throw trillions of dollars into a war that the majority doesn't want. The Republican party stopped listening to the masses long ago, which is why they are now in this predicament. They deserve to become extinct like dinosaurs.
He makes some sense. I'm not sure why he's calling the Republican party "they" but he makes some good points.
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