Better Late Than Never
Bush admits something that would have been political suicide four years ago:
WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush said his belief that God created the world is not incompatible with the scientific theory of evolution.
In an interview with ABC's "Nightline" on Monday, the president also said he probably is not a literalist when reading the Bible although an individual can learn a great deal from it, including the New Testament teaching that God sent his only son.
Asked about creation and evolution, Bush said: "I think you can have both. I think evolution can -- you're getting me way out of my lane here. I'm just a simple president. But it's, I think that God created the earth, created the world; I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty and I don't think it's incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolution."
He added, "I happen to believe that evolution doesn't fully explain the mystery of life."
Interviewer Cynthia McFadden asked Bush if the Bible was literally true.
"You know. Probably not. ... No, I'm not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is ... has got ... You know, the important lesson is 'God sent a son,"' Bush said.
boosh believes he's not a literalist, because he thinks literalists are them guys who dropped their used condoms, cigarette butts and empty Lone Star Beers all over the ground.
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Evolution is a hit and miss operation, as clearly evidenced by this particular individual example.
As for Religion, wouldn't you scoff at someone who professes belief in Zeus?!? Thor?!? Ra?!? There have been thousands of others, you have only one more god to dismiss and you will be liberated.
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Religions are incompatible with each other, therefore:
A) zero are correct
B) one is correct
If A is true, dozens of religions are junk. If B is true, dozens of religions are junk. The junkiness of dozens of religions does not help me choose between A and B.
its called FAITH.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
for when he leaves office, I mean what else can he do, "Speaking" engagements? LOL, sorry, just the thought of that kills me.
And crosby had to work on his act. It just flows from Stupor Mundi, like syrup from a maple.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
sap is a better word!
For the set up.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
as he does of the Constitution. At any rate, the father's name on the birth certificate was the Holy Ghost and his birth fulfilled the prophesy that Jesus would be of the House of David as his step-father had direct lineage and Jesus would also be named Emmanuel...HUH?
You'll notice fundamentalists who'll parse passages from the Bible attempt to do the same with the Constitution.
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The guy is a genocidal maniac who managed to use the snakehandlers to get elected. Everyone knows he eats babies and worships satan.
What is this? After all these years he goes out there, tells us, that, yeah, this "bring em on" bravado was probably not very wise, that, yes mam, the whole Iraq intelligence and WMD and what-not was indeed cooked, sorry, and now, yup, that all this Falwellism was just BS all the time..
So he knew! He always effing knew!! He probably knows even a lot more. He just put us through this eight years of shit because it was politically convenient, not because he was too dumb to see it. Well thank the Lord! That was probably not what Billy Graham had in mind with you, Dubya. Even though at that moment he was too senile to recognize it.
Just go already! Quick the self pitying interviews and finally GO!
He is dumb enough to ignore or rationalise that which he sees though, even the loss of millions of lives and trillions of dollars.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
He's admitted he's a "simple" president.
a simple president. Truer words were never spoken. As for the rest of this "enlightenment..." I've never heard a worse rationalization from somebody who wants to have it BOTH WAYS. What a numb-skull. My brother is a true believer who suggested, a long time ago, that God put dinosaur bones in the ground TO TEST OUR FAITH! At least that shows conviction in his faith. W doesn't know what conviction feals like... not for his faith in his God... nor for the understanding of his science.
Not a thinker... nor a true believer.
Just a "simple president" who REALLY SCREWED THINGS UP.
That is the kind of faith that not only sustains religions, but also starts them. Matthew writes that after the cruxifiction there was darkness and also an earthquake and this little tidbit....saints came out of their graves and went back into the holy city. The first Roman reference to Jesus is decades later, and despite the shock the city's residents and Roman administration must have faced with the combination of darkness and earthquakes along with the Return of the Night of the Living Dead in color and 3D, for some inexplicable reason the Romans just never bothered to contemporaneously document this or even mention it decades later. Another of a god's tests of faith probably.
Testing your faith, stoning, pillar of salt, flood, and lots of other 'death and destruction' things that HE wanted/caused.
He sounds like such a great guy. /sarcasm
:P
me-oww!
FOR THE LAST TIME - FOSSIL.
Or, for those that can't comprehend that, the next time he visits his pig farm in crawdad, he can look at the green film on his new administrations' pond (the scum layer) and see the same beginnings that lead to fossils..
what morons....
...n started BOMBIN'! Hen henh! Praise deh lawd,...
What a fucking imbecile,... this would be comic if our boys weren't dying for his fucking vendetta,...
Nail him! Bag him and tag him and send his fucking arse to the Hague!
Trial anyone?
A trial will take too long. Just hang him and get it over with.
George Bush is a member of The Bohemian Grove
Every summer in mid-July, Bohemian Grove hosts a three-week encampment of some of the most powerful men in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
They worship the little owl on the dollar bill...
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...
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I don't know if I can explain my own view. I think the Deity is Life, in all it's myriad forms brought on by Natural Forces like evolution and even geologic forces. I see kinship with the inanimate and the animate alike. To me Life is not even necessarily aware it's alive, and might include a rock. The rock has integrity; if you pick it up it doesn't dissolve into its component parts. But a rock is not aware. The wind is alive, but may not last long, but there are insects that gestate for 17 years underground only to die in days once they're adults.
Does that mean there's a Deity as I said above, or just multitudinous forms of life? That I don't know. Are we parts of the whole or is there no whole, and we are merely circling about a light like moths to a flame? Is Deity the perfection that started the journey or the end of the journey? Is it both the Alpha and the Omega? Are we all evolving into Deity. Some Amerindians saw us as shining seeds being eaten by a devouring hawk. So are we only food, or was that symbolic of becoming part of something larger, stronger and greater? The organization of atoms, to cells, to organism, to even solar systems are remarkably similar.
But then I tend to be a solipsist/nihilist. I'm not sure anything makes sense. I'm not whistling past the graveyard, except maybe bor apartment hunting. But like Nietzche I look into the void but only to laugh at it; it bugs the s**t out of the void.
But none of this is science per se.
I don't know if this makes sense but then again, I might just be drunk. I am working on it.
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Cosmic!
I have to admit when I started practicing Witchcraft it had the odd effect of occassionally making me pass out.
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Life is the means for the universe to know itself.
Where did you get that? That almost summarizes neatly what I was trying to say in my rambling way.
But then I practically grew up in the back of my family's Rambler stationwagon.
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Sorry, I should have given credit to Carl Sagan!
Atman...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh da...Atman...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh dah...duh tah...duh ah Atman...Atman...Atman!!!
Now if you'll excuse me I'll go watch a Mr. Hanky Christmas Poo marathon.
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Wed, 12/10/2008 - 17:36 — lafingas
Life is the means for the universe to know itself.
Biblically?
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Philosophically !!!!!!!
I feel like I just got high reading that. A nice, peaceful circular bit of wonderment.
Very cosmic!
ALL ALONG! Nobody's picked up that story either, though the condition does help explain his invaribly erratic behavior...
He has been photographed completely shitfaced.
Mr. Hanky?
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That just mean he doesn't perspire,
like the lizards.
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can survive "intelligence." The Null Hypothesis seems safe...
I will be so glad when we flush this turd out the back door of the White House.
Listening to him is like listening to my lying, bull shit filled ex-sister-in-law. Everyone knew she was lying through her teeth about anything and everything...but we all had to "be nice" and put up with her crap. I DON'T have to listen to this butt head.
Please......hurry up January 20th!! We have suffered enough!
I'm gaining respect for the man in his last waning days here. I never though of him as an evil man, or even a complete idiot, just a terribly misguided man with no humility. I guess it just sucks that he's only finally at peace with himself at the very end of his rule. If only he would have found peace before, we'd be a lot better off...
there's one born every minute.
You know, I was introduced to a self-righteous, black and white guy 8 years ago...
He's been THIS guy all along- just threw up all that divisive, thieving, conspiratorial bullshit as a front to gain and retain power.
How can you respect that?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Power corrupts at every level... Every level. The office, the job site, from the lowest level of city service to the highest office in the land. Don't get me wrong, I hate 95% of what he's done, but somewhere along the way to where I am right now, I started to learn how to forgive.
An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind kind of thing, you know? Whether we like it or not, we need to start forgiving, but not forgetting, the mistakes we've made and learn from them. All we can do is hope that the other side realizes the same.
Then again, I am drunk right now.
Sleep on it.
You forgive this horseshit and you allow the next King of the Assholes to get away with it.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
being granted forgiveness is permission to do the same shit all over again. My forgiveness always comes with an explanation that I am not granting permission to do more of the same later on.
me-oww!
No way can anyone respect that, natch.
I'm simply stunned and amazed he's admitting the sham.
WTF is that? Thanks for the bloody memories, George, you base, lying, hypocritical, genocidal maniac.
Does this mean we can frogmarch your ass to the Hague now?
Wonder what the Jesus Camp crew will think about this.
Jesus Camp Kids Worshipping to a George Bush Picture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEhaA9BU9as
I have nothing but contempt for that POS that is reasonable for over a million deaths. He should be tried in a world court for war crimes!
Starting a few unnecessary wars and torturing people doesn't mean the guy is "evil"....
He could barbecue and serve his dog to children and people would say he's OK.
Dubya, President Cheney, and everyone else will just walk away from everything they've done. There will be no accountability.
/I hope I'm wrong.
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g.w. bush puts a whole new meaning to lame duck. personally i'm so glad to see him go. i really don't
give a damn what he thinks and/or believes. he was a terrible leader. i won't miss his authoritarian ways.
his disrespect for the legislative branch=people. this nonsense to get his approval number(s) higher makes me nauseated.
You see how easy it is to be fooled when you want to believe?
Never mind that the things he said were not true, no matter that you were told, you wanted to believe.
The fool got fooled again?
But at what costs?
Only suckers would believe the spin this jerk is coming out with these days. The whitewash attempts by his apologists will fail, his crimes are too great and will not be forgotten.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Like, sure Bush has committed heinous crimes and left the country in ruin, all for personal gain, but i see now that he can be a nice guy when his power has been stripped, so lets forget what he did?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
One brain cell. One step. Perfect.
What of all those evangelical extreme right wingers?
Being a Christian nation for Bush is now a Christian Sciency nation?
What next, Will Bush pray for an ecomonic miracle or does he and the right evangelicals desire an economic collapse?
that no matter what subject Bush "discusses" he sounds like a clueless moron. The guy knows less about more things than almost anyone I've ever met who was over the age of ten.
To not know about more things than most people takes time and ingenuity.
It incorporates the Rumsfeldian Theorem that states, "We know not what we know we know not", with the pure beauty of unbridled stupidity. A triumph!
*sigh*
It just works on so many levels.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
"I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty,"
He could not have given a better explanation for the existence of religion. In essence, he said he thinks the universe coming into existence is an event, he doesn't know the mechanism for that event, so he has to make something up to explain it. Explains religious beliefs to a tee. The problem with the way he and people like him see things, is that it comes with baggage a lot of other people are unwilling to burden themselves with.
I don't have to go so far as to make up a Creator. Cuz then I'd have to wonder who created the Creator. I dunno.
I think that's why I've always been facinated with Russian Nesting Dolls and the Vierge Ouvrante, life nesting within life, and so see divinity as female, Vas Hermiticum Vas Spirituale.
Then again, I may just be horny.
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Oopsie...
I should mention most of what I've said has been anathemized since the Sebellianism, Nestorianism and Monophysitism controversies, as well as the first Great Church Council Nicea in 328 against Originus Adamantius.
Funny thing, anathemism, seems to derive from the name Anat, and ancient Semitic Goddess.
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lest we forget: Arathia begat Arheilia and Genusbat.
And they wandered in the Spittoon for 47.5 years 'til they arrivethed in Samorthatiaville in Ameranthe.
And it was good.
It was real good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk
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when Bush talks about God sending a son - he is talking about himself, not Jesus.
Agreed. I feel that way too. Really. Can there be so much dumbness in just one man? Wow.
That's EXACTLY what I thought when I saw the quote.
Delusions of grandeur.
when are they gonna learn that the repugs dont give shit one about their issues and just use them
May your God bestow upon you what you truly deserve, you fucker.
that doeseth slandering the ruler of all those known as Americanoids shall by his own means, lay with the daughters of Amaraias.
For the Sundering and Laundering of the Monies of the Christ in our Lord Gehosophatereeniemo doth sayeth what the multitudes have but bent in their hearts: That the Hord of Lowst, the one and sometime Host and Toastmaster of all that bites and singeth in perfect harmony.
A veritable compendium sayeth he.
Drink from the Rock of the Sun.
Sink in the Swim of Titanius.
And be Boiled with the Lot of the Ashes of the Hind,
Lest Ye be Poached in the Vessel of Salmonides.
but I play one on TV.
And to think that millions of equally brain-dead morons voted for this imbecile TWICE!!!!! You just can't fathom the depth of the thick sh*t that resides in these people's otherwise empty skulls.
You know, the Bible isn't literal, so you can't take it literally where it says things like "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" or "THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS".
Or the parts where it talks about "lying with a man like you would with a woman"? .. nope not literal. Or "turn the other cheek"? interesting concept; not literal. George Dubya Bush has a dark side. Good thing he can use the fucking Bible however the hell he wants to. He wasn't just a cheerleader in college; he had quite the reputation. Which is okay, because the Unitary Executive is above the law. Even the SkyGod™'s law. Is the Unitary Executive literal or figurative? ..can't tell.
notKeith
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
" . . . who cares what you think?"
I think this is the first honest answer that I have heard from this man .
Religions are not compatible with the theory of evolution, because they don't stop where evolution begins, which is at life on earth. Science uses evidence, whereas religion is entirely based on myth.
Meet my imaginary friend Gus. He's God and Jesus rolled into one. You don't see him? You have no faith. He will destroy you.
Religious people bring their children who have cancer to hospitals, where doctors diagnose and treat them with methods and medications developed by researchers using evolutionary principles. What a joke. Can't God help them? Hypocrites. Reminds me of an article in the NY Times in October 2004 about anti-choice Christian couples who nevertheless resort to abortions when they discover that their fetus has genetic anomalies, yet declare themselves different from other couples who have abortions.
Here's the lamest of lame ducks and the For-Profit-Only Media are still treating him like a perfumed prince! Disgusting.
Am I the only one who remembers the account of Dim Leader telling people "God told me to strike Saddam, and I did"?
Instead of giving Raisin Brain all that revisionist weasel room, McFadden MIGHT have actually done some bleepin' JOURNALISM and pinned the lying little sociopath to the wall using his own words.
Might've been just the tonic the country needed.
Showing that miserable little Fundie's head start doing 360s while he babbled in tongues would've been heroic journalism.
That, of course, is why McFadden didn't do it. She's neither heroic nor a journalist. She's a courtier.
You're my Hero!
So, he's basically a liar and a fake, something many of us knew all along. He was simply making up stuff to win over the right wing religious nut jobs. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who DOES take the Bible literally is a little off his/her rocker.
... just 'a little'?
The guy can't even explain the role of Christ Jesus. (Of course, if you don't believe, even a more coherent explanation will still seem like b.s., but that's not the point.)
And the bit about 'evolution doesn't explain the mystery of life'? What mystery is that? Evolution is meant to explain the ability for organisms to adapt to their environment, manifested as physical change, over time. Not to explain sperm-meets-ova or any other warm fuzzies about existence.
The first 20 minutes of this, just 20 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM
Hey Dumbya, don't you mean "simpleton president?
The word "simpleton" has too many syllables for him.
Youtube was down last night, but I think this is the real reason Origenes Adamantius was anathemized by the primitive church:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhvqVqLAdLI
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Altho' a lot of the idiotic things their adherents say are. But that--and Bush's religious blather--are not the least be interesting to me.
His stance - esp that about literalism - reminds me of the elegant way Rosalyn Carter described the resurgence of racism in the Reagan years: she said that didn't think that the Reagans, either of them were racists themselves; but that the ethos of his administration created an atmosphere in which people were able to feel comfortable again with their racism.
That's what nit-wit Bush does for nit-wit religionists.
why did God let Bush wreck the United States? How can one interpret that?
Where does bombing a nation on false pretenses for big oil resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents and then steering no bid government contracts at taxpayer expense to the vice president's former compay fit in the scriptures?
Like many if not most southern conservative republican "christians" Bush is a self serving fraud, a charlatan and a disgrace to the human race.
He should spend eternity in the hell he has created for countless others. It's not God that's going to be waiting for him on the other side. Bush thinks Crawford his hot, just wait...
"I'm not a literalist, but you can learn a lot from it" sure is a far cry from "Jesus Christ touched my heart and influences all of my decisions and cured my alcoholism."
Lying sack of Texas manure!
More like simply a moron....
Too funny!
This "admission" by Chimpy is going to cause this country untold problems in the years to come. Because now, in one stroke, Bush has instantly removed any doubt the Fundies may have had about why W. was such a HUGE effin' failure. But now they know: They were right all along, they'll say. Bush failed BECAUSE he doesn't believe the Bible is the literal Word of God. He failed because he wasn't firmly in their camp. He failed because he didn't have enough faith.
This is indeed comic and it's funny watching the Fundies squirm with the knowledge they were used and discarded like the condoms they hate so much. But trust me, in the long run, this is gonna give the Fundies the excuse they need to revamp and regroup.
This pathetic attempt to change the fact of his idiotic policies is akin to Ronald Reagan trying to take credit for Ryan White's courage in the face of HIV/AIDS after seven years of Reagan's policies designed to kill off AIDS victims.
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