FBI Files: Saddam Hussein Faked Having WMDs
By Susie Madrak Friday Jun 26, 2009 4:30amI know there were people saying this at the time, but the people bent on war refused to believe it. Oh well, what's a few hundred thousand dead people killed in the name of saving us all?
WASHINGTON - Saddam Hussein feared Iran's arsenal more than a U.S. attack, and even considered asking ex-President George W. Bush "to protect" Iraq from its neighbor, once secret FBI files show.
The FBI interrogations of the toppled tyrant - codename "Desert Spider" - were declassified after a Freedom of Information Act request.
The records show Saddam happily boasted of duping the world about stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. And he consistently denied cooperating with Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda.
Of all his enemies, Iraq's ex-president - who insisted he still held office during captivity - hated Iran most.
Asked how he would have faced "fanatic" Iranian ayatollahs if Iraq had been proven toothless by UN weapons inspectors in 2003, Saddam said he would have cut a deal with Bush.
"Hussein replied Iraq would have been extremely vulnerable to attack from Iran and would have sought a security agreement with the U.S. to protect it from threats in the region," according to a 2004 FBI report among the declassified files.
Without Bush's help, "Iraq would have done what was necessary," he told FBI Agent George Piro in his Baghdad International Airport cell.
That didn't mean an alliance of evil with Al Qaeda, he insisted months into what he called a "dialogue" with Piro.
The interrogations unfolded in 2004 after his capture the previous December at the same farm where he said he'd hidden after orchestrating a failed 1959 coup plot.
Saddam denied ever laying eyes on the "zealot" Bin Laden, bent on striking the U.S.
He said he "did not have the same belief of vision" as the terror kingpin.
Saddam never sought Al Qaeda assistance because he feared the terror group would turn on him. To protect his country, the more likely ally "would have been North Korea."
Saddam also said the U.S. "used the 9/11 attack as a justification to attack Iraq" and "lost sight of the cause of 9/11."
The U.S. "was not Iraq's enemy," just its policies, Saddam explained.
Asked about WMDs, Saddam insisted: "We destroyed them. We told you."
"By God, if I had such weapons, I would have used them in the fight against the U.S," he added.








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Damn. He seems reasonable and sensible.
...bush
but he was still a tyrant.
Which was Iraq's problem, not ours.
Couldn't agree more.
Here, here, he could not go anywhere. He was stuck in Iraq and if he would have been caught outside of Iraq he would have gone straight to The Hague.
Just like all Tyrants they can't keep power forever. Saddam would of been toppled one way or the other. If it be his own people or people in country with the backing of Iran.
Except now we've radicalized even the moderates in Iraq, to the point where any diplomatic effort has been set back 20 years.
100 years. The Iraqis won't forget the death and destruction even in a hundred years. Would you????
that is 'ministers' lied to him about WMD...He seemed to want them soo badly! Just like Cheney and Rummy wanted him to have them!
I always assumed that he was chest-thumping about his weapons in order to keep Iran on their side of the border. I mentioned this to a dittohead friend during the run up to the war, and he said we needed to attack anyway because Saddam was defying us.
I was part of a US WAR attack on Iraq called Desert Fox...
In that we blew the hell out of every stock pile we knew of.. which was the whole bag essentially..
In fact it was and then some.
He may have wanted them .. but he wanted people to THINK he had them even more-- for mostly the reasons stated above.
But with the way 95%++ of our media was behaving at the time (look who owns them!).. I am not surprised and neither should anyone else THINK that we knew what Saddam wanted...
I will tell you what..
Saddam surprised me in a letter he wrote to an American school kid-- In that letter if you can find it you will see the guy was not Craaazy... or etc..
Coherent and Rational is how I found it..
Sure he was a dictator.. killed and tortured people..
But then again he is small fry compared to American presidents and Corporations.. We kill more people during toast at breakfast then he did in the last 2 decades..
I was doing circles in the NAG during
OILOEF/OIF .An intel guy told me that many of Saddam's generals sabotaged their own communications so that they could claim they never received any orders to fight the Americans.
And you know, about the corporations, you're right.
Peace brother.
As was Bush.
At least as long as what he was doing did not threatened our interests.
Not gassing the Kurds, oppressing and killing his own people nor (initially) the invasion of Kuwait. Heck we even said it was not our matter.
Well until we thought we could gain more by exploiting the issue.
Saddam did not turn evil over night. He was a bad mofo the entire time.
And we knew it.
So was Bush (I mean Cheney). OK, both.
I know we are trying to move forward as a country but don't we have to inflict some sort of pain upon Bush and Cheney? We can't just allow all that will be released and uncovered in the next few months to go into a drawer and be forgot.
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That whole "moving forward" thing just makes no sense to me.
You know, we're kind of locked into going forward by the passage of time, right? Doesn't that make "moving forward" the inevitable, unavoidable default? And that it shouldn't preclude remembering things that have happened?
Or did Obama mean we should never prosecute another crime or honor a contract or do anything at all in the future?
I think Obama just doesn't want to deal with the bullshit. I can't blame him for that, but a brave person would do it anyway because it's the right thing to do.
Frankly, Obama is really pissing me off. I'm not sorry I voted for him considering the alternative but fuck am I disappointed.
he is just doing what he's told. The Bush Crime Family still make the rules.
Yeah you're right. It seems as though "we are just letting the past be the past", no matter how horrible it was.
The term "moving forward" used in the fashionable context annoys the living fuck out me.
Or one of his agents Uses "Moveing forward" I hear "we don't want to take the time to do what right because it will piss off the GOP and make things harder on the administration". Too bad "Moveing forward" and covering for the Bush Administration has yet to make the Gop act any less like there Arrogent Our way or no way selfs. I say Go for it the core of the GOP is not going to work with Obama one way or the other.
You only move forward when you address the injustices.
if Ford wouldn't have pardoned Nixon.
Nixon in the pokey would have sent a powerful message and may had scared Reagan off, all together. Same can definitely be said for the Bushes as well.
Always be wary of those that want to 'let the past be and look forwards'.
They are the ones that do not want their past to catch up with them.
"Oh well, what's a few hundred thousand dead people killed in the name of saving us all?"
More to the point, if it isn't the lives of the children of the combat dodging chickenhawks they don't care. Committing somebody else's children to fight and die in a war they or there kids would never fight in they have no problem with.
Still waiting on word for when any of the 5 young strapping Romney boys of fighting age are going to suit up a go fight in the war in Iraq their chickenhawk father cheerleads for other people's kids to fight in. Especially now that his presidential campaign is over since that was the excuse Little Ronnie gave for his sons not fighting because they were helping him with his campaign.
so its claimed.
Add in all the other 10 million killed in SE Asia directly by US mil, and millions in South America by proxy.
Anyone notice the hypocritical dichotomy of Cheney and his ilk whining and wringing their hands about not looking back regarding all the mistakes (lies, crimes, incompetence, etc...) about the lead up to the war in Iraq, but the annoying willingness to go on and on about torture? I hope the next time him or his spawn take to the airwaves some intrepid interviewer will point to this FBI report and say "Why should you be trusted on anything after you needlessly dragged the country into a war of choice that needlessly resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands (and thats a lowball estimate) of innocents?"
Lets make Cheney's instance on publicly defending decisions about torture in him having to defend decisions about Iraq.
... the media is now more concerned with 'sounding right' and 'looking serious,' than actually being right and being serious.
waddya mean now?
the media's been like that for YEARS and YEARS...
You mean the days when I was a college student and still thought of journalism and ethics as important were that long ago?
Geez, next thing you know, Michael Jackson will be dead ...
that was for you Shadowgm...
But to me...the last ethical newspeople IMHO are Cronkite and Rather...and now Maddow of course.
Fri, 06/26/2009 - 06:13 — Shadowgm
Geez, next thing you know, Michael Jackson will be dead ...
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But already announcing a new world tour.
I believe I heard David Gregory correctly this morning as he said that Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham will be on Meet the Press Sunday. Is it against the law to have democrats on now?
of epic proportions.
They figure with dems sounding more and more like repubs, why bother with them and put the real thing on instead.
And agreed with liberalNmoderation.
George Bush and Dick Cheney had weapons of mass destruction and they used them. When are they going to pay for their war crimes?
Add that to the fact that the weapons inspectors couldn't find jack shit in Iraq before the invasion and I think we can close the case about Iraq having WMD. Someone call bullshit on Rumsfeld for at the time saying they knew where the WMD was.
What we had in the bush administration was both crooks and liars at the highest level.
Yesterday I finally began reading "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" and man did that book open my eyes. You begin to view world and national events with a whole new approach.
found jack **** in the Iraqi army weapons storage bunkers, somebody had dispersed a lot of weapons before the invasion.
Any wonder why Iraq is still in a condition of occupation, civil war between the provinces and central gov in the Emerald City.
They did find that one warhead with a biological agent that was prolly manufactured sometime back in the early 80's and the military personnel that found it had to have a good long scrubbing after they came in contact with it and some rest too. Just think of all the microbes and bacteria that died during their long shower.
The American forces had huge stocks of weapons they had captured from the Iraqis. But they were ordered to blow them up rather than turn them over to the rebels. "It was gut-wrenching to me," said Gonzalez. "Here we were sitting on the Euphrates River and we were ordered to stop. As a human being, I wanted to help, but as a solider I had my orders."
Ironically, according to a former U.S. diplomat, some of the arms that were not destroyed by American forces were collected by the CIA and shipped to anti-Soviet rebels in Afghanistan, who at the time were being clandestinely backed by the U.S.
Who were these alleged "anti-Soviet rebels in Afghanistan"?
The military industrial complex... too big to fail :-/
See: How George H.W. Bush Helped Saddam Hussein Prevent an Iraqi Uprising
By Barry Lando, AlterNet. Posted March 30, 2007.
[ http://www.alternet.org/world/49864/ ]
has killed more people then have died in Iraq.
He has been killing people since ronny was pres.
Check out how rummy got ronny to sign an executive order that allowed his company to sell a substance that the FDA would not allow.
People have been dying since.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Another interesting read is " The Energy non-crisis " , by Lindsey
Williams .
It all comes back to the incredible 911 "official government" theory now doesn't it?
During the bush years what couldn't be blamed on Clinton was blamed on 9-11. Then they tried to blame Clinton for 9-11.
Even the past 9/11 commissioners are now saying it was BS, theres a new book or two coming out soon (2010)
The one good thing about 9/11 Commission members publishing, is that it lifts the block on talking about the various wrongness of 9/11.
Oh lookee, NYT oped article about CIA interference in investigating 9/11 Published: January 2, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02k...
http://www.mahalo.com/tom-kean
The only thing that could possibly remain is TLA membership of censors at various media outlets, and people being on payrolls to suppress discussion (or hoping to be in the future). Or to protect 'the children' with their fragile ickle minds...
of 9-11 was verboeten on this site?
...because they don't have enough room for it all.
When whatever passes for the truth that happened back in 2001 comes out on the MSM, there will be another MJ shiny thing story to worry over...
Its not that it hasn't come out in dribs and drabs, just that nobody joins the dots esp on national TV, thats how Washington and our glorious leaders want it.
Heck, they even have identified the 'Harley Tshirt' Canadian C list TV actor who did the scripted full explanation to Faux in NY on the street an hour or so after the towers collapsed.
"...collapsed due to fire and structural failure..."
You would think anybody who did a famous TV interview with such flair on such a momentous day, woudl be popping up on TV all the time.
Nope, that actor went to ground for a year after that street interview, going by his IMDB profile.
I wonder what kind of deal he thought he could cut with bush. The US helps protect Iraq and what would the US have gotten in return?
seeing as how rummy sold him mustard gas back when he was workin for raygunn.
Oil. Oil Oil, Oil. Plus maybe bases.
with all that "looooverly" decoratin....
Oil was the first thing that came to my mind to, but it seems bush would have rather done that. He would have the oil without losing even one life. Of course the military industrial complex would be poorer today if bush had done that.
Remember before the invasion bush gave Sadam and his sons some amount of days to leave the country and if they did, there would be no attack. If Saddam had taken him up on that, I wonder if the invasion would have taken place.
I will never forget the disgusting spectacle of Saddam's two dead sons laying on that table with their faces basically rebuilt out of wax.
until they finally got their trophy targets !?
really know.
There's no way to know because the US does not count dead people until someone else kills them. Today when a bomb goes off at a market we know within hours exactly how many died but when our bombs were dropped, no one bothered counting.
restaurants and similar places.
Plus all that collateral damage, ie civilians who died in the bomb blasts.
how the first Gulf War started when Bush 41 announced the US would not meddle in that 'border dispute'. Obviously Bush baited Hussein into thinking Kuwait would be an easy grab and then we'd have justification for 'liberating' Kuwait. Up until then the US via Ronnie Reagan and Donald Rumsfeld armed Iraq during war its against Iran. Alas, Reagan wasn't so much an Oil Man, and once Bush came in our friends became enemies because they were awash in oil. It's the same fucking reason Bush 43 (and Rummie and Cheney) attacked Iraq all over again. Oil. 9-11, just like Kuwait, were simply vehicles to justify the oil grab.
that and all the other meds he snoozed his days as POTUS on.
That should be PO
TUS.Years ago I made the ultimate blasphemy by telling my grandparents that Reagan was the most destructive president of my lifetime for his meddling in Iran/Iraq afairs and deregulation/free-market love fest. Sadly, it took the loss of more than half their retirement in this recent economic fiasco and the horrific Iraq War which resulted in my cousin - their grandchild - being shot to understand what I meant.
I was at my mothers house in 2006 for x-mass. she gave me a x-mass card and said read it. shit, it was from that pos bush. I told her I would have to wash my hands after holding this card from a scumbucket murdering pice of shit, she slaped me, and said I should have some respect for OUR leader.
But some conspiracy theory basically said that the Kuwaitis who had apparently an insanely large investment in the British banking system, threatened to topple that system if they didn't do something about Iraq's invasion, so Britain got Bush to join in to save Britain. Don't know how much if any truth is to that though.
That would make sense as it was Maggie Thatcher who kept pushing old man Bush to do something about the Iraq invasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ART...
Was the code name for Saddam, desert spider, before or after they found him in a "spider hole"?
They are technically not spiders...
Which makes Saddam's ill fated title as the "desert spider" even more a propose given the revelation of his bluff.
I've had this video in YouTube archive for years:
"Saddam: I lied to scare off Iran."
It's really interesting how they were able to get Saddam to open up about all his secrets without torturing him too. You'd think the "ticking time-bomb" scenerio would include the leader of a nation supposedly holding WMD's we are at war with. I guess some random Afghans are more important sources of info that the President of Iraq?
Or was it that Saddam would be visible to the world media and if he looked abused in anyway it would cause a huge uproar from the international community? Nah, that's too cynical.
Maybe it's because they knew he had no WMDs that he was hiding, he had nothing to do with 9/11 and wasn't a threat in anyway so why bother trying to extract important info from him? Nah...
Was it because they wanted to gather reliable intel and knew torture would produce innacurate info? COuldn't be that one.
I guess it was because Rummy and Saddam were pals and it'd be rude to waterboard an old buddy.
everyone keeps being afraid of Iran but Iran is the one that keeps on getting screwed over by everyone.
Issn't it always the weakest ones that are declared the biggest threats.
The country that has the largest stockpile of nukes, threatens to use them against everyone and has actually used them, is attacking any other country they claim is having them.
Because you know, countries without WMDs are easy targets.
I read a book back in 2004, it's called "The Fall of Baghdad", by Jon Lee Anderson. He is a reporter and he gives some insight into just what sort of person Saddam was. Some of it runs contrary to what we have been led to believe. It doesn't excuse his actions, it just lets you know the man and his attitudes.
Otherwise he would have been 'gone' years before.
Did he fake orgasms too?
By gosh Saddem deserve to be punished for what he did to his people. Bush/Cheney/Rummey deserve punishment for bring this country to war with Iraq killing alot of innocent people in Iraq and our soldiers. Shame on them and may they be bought to justice. Yet again justice is blind and they will get away with murder. Am suprised that Obama is covering for these murders.
2000 election. People knew the election was fixed. what did the American people do..."NOTHING" ( Even Oneall said they wanted a WAR with Iraq, just did not know how to start it) bush and his crime buds win! this tard is now running things. Do you think they were just going to sit around. they needed something. look at the repug manafesto(?). it said the repugs needed something to kick things off. look in the past, Nam was started on a LIE. WWII,another Lie to get the US into a war the American pepole did not want. then there was the towers. look at it. you need to look at every thing. look at the pentagon. Shit, there must be 30 or 40 vidio cams all over the place. on hotels, every where. what did this goverment show the American people. "SHIT"
what 3 or 4 slides. the report comes out and what is in it, sounds just like the report on JFK, more bullshit. election 2004, another fixed election, what did the people of America do, Nothing. Untill the people here stop with the sheeple ways, nothing will Ever "CHANGE"
Do you think Obama will change. shit he has keept with the bush game. NO you cant see that, or that either.sotp the war, well, give me some time. hell they just got what another 110 billion for the war. WTF. people are getting kicked out of there homes, no medical, even when you have medical, it pays shit. let mee see, first stim. what 700 billion, Obams stim, about 820 billion, another 110 billion for killing(war), that is 1.630 trillion. You know if they gave the TAX PAYERS money back to the tax payers, we could have gotten a check for every legal tax paying American for OVER $300,000. Now that would have brought back our Economy. No, they are going to make sure that the people of america STAY IN DEBT. forver...Why, thats just the way things are. We have been told over and over, you cant fight the goverment. We are a controled people. When I talk to people to try to get something going, they just say, I cant go right now, I need to go to wal-mart.
..1.63 trillion dollars divided by 306,765,708 people in the USA equals $5,313.50
Which would be more beneficial to Americans, and save more lives, $1.63 trillion for health care, or $1.63 trillion to bomb the hell out of, and invade,Iraq?
It's clear where the US government's priorities are. By the poeple, for the people...????
..and support the Chinese who gave W all that money he didn't include in the budget that makes the budget problem greater for Obama?
Americans didn't want to go to war in WWII. There was a strong isolationist sentiment in this country. Then again, a large number of Europeans didn't want the war either and it was pretty forced down their throats. Pearl Harbor changed that but we were already helping England with its efforts. After the Pearl Harbor attack, we were free to do anything we wanted. Also, consider what the world might look like today if we didn't enter when we did.
Consider what the world might look like today if W hadn't been appointed President in '00. Its likely we still would've been attacked on 9/11 but the question is: would the response have violated international law? No way to know exactly what Gore would've done although I believe right now we wouldn't have been calling for his head in a court of law for war crimes.
...of Bush Administration lying us into war and you know god damn good and well that not a fucking thing will come of it.
We are the laughingstock of the whole god damned world.
this is what American has come to. watch:ZEITGEIST THE MOVIE.
...and it just floors me how so many people can see evidence and just choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit with their belief system. Sad...
Shit, are we going to watch the down fall of America as we know it. People had HOPE for a change, where the bad would be brought to justic. they would pay for there crimes. the rich control it all, and they will make sure WE the People never get control. EVER.
..is Osama bin Laden!
Bush and Hussein. Opposite sides of the same lying, chickenshit coin.
..that Saddam was capable of anything other than a tirade?
Think about it: UN sez' no WMD's, he used NO WMD's on anyone, even during the Gulf War, he didn't use any, we controlled his air space with no-fly zones. There was faulty evidence about WMD's and al-Qaeda and we had a war-crazy administration who needed to invade Iraq to make money for his supporters. What idiot thought that this wasn't going to end badly? Its that simple - you had to be an idiot to think that Saddam was a threat, specifically an imminent threat. WE wanted to know the day we invaded Iraq, at what point, especially if they don't find WMD, will Bush be considered a war criminal. The evidence justs keeps mounting and yet, NOTHING from our President of change. I supported that man for President because I wanted to, not because it was obvious that he was going to be President. If he's biding time until he doesn't have to worry about recriminations for prosecuting Bush, he'll lose my support. WE need the Special Prosecutor NOW and W and his crime family need to be held accountable. If it rips this country apart, I'm afraid it will have to be ripped apart and then, at least, we can go on with our lives being a Nation of Laws not being the Nation of Criminals that we now are!
Whether one views it as a natural consequence or as evidence of divine justice, it certainly looks as if America is damned. Obama can't bring charges of treason against Cheney and Bush because of the civil chaos that would ensue, perhaps even civil war which is basically what America is arming itself for now. But if he doesn't act he has no chance of restoring America's credibility on the world stage. Already confidence in America and its markets and its dollar, have plummeted, people have lost their jobs, their homes, health care is mess, the political climate is toxic. America's got its own little Armageddon happening.
..we survived a Civil War, WWI, WWII, Civil Rights' protests, anti-war protests, oil embargoes, Watergate, Monica-gate, the Depression, Prohibition, locusts, etc.
WE WILL SURVIVE WAR CRIME TRIALS AGAINST BUSH, CHENEY, et.al.!
Look at it from president Obama's perspective. Lincoln didn't survive the civil war.
Saddam and Bush were two cheeks of the same ass for sure. This is a great post by the way, Susie. Maybe we liberals should change our names to "Cassandras" since we speak the truth but no fucker believes us.
How I was called terrorist lover, commie, and a whole host of labels and insults when I would bring this "theory" up. Iran hated Saddam wanted Iraq's resourses, land ,and people and of course revenge. Saddam needed to keep them at bay, but the only thing Iran really feared about Iraq is the gas attacks they used all those years ago.
I didn't think it was rocket science. Bush wanted a war in Iraq 9/11 and the afghan war just postponed it in his mind. Sad that so many will still just face the truth of the iraq war.
Bush was intent on attacking Iraq when he announced that he was running for President. BUSH IS A FUCKING CRIMINAL... I told my friends that if elected, Bush would take us to war, they told me I was crazy.
After one of the debates with Al Gore, they were both asked about the issue that was foremost in world affairs at the time and hadn't been touched on during the debate - the Israeli-Palestinian conflict - and Bush tagged his response with something along the lines of "You gotta remember, there's that Saddam Hussein. He's still out there."
The more I hear about this, the more I want to puke. The O'Reilly / Donahue Clip on C&L gives a lot of insight into the right-wing war-mongering that exists in our country. Bush attacked Iraq for bullshit reasons.. BUSH / CHENEY / RUMSFELD / WOLFOWITZ ARE GODDAMN WAR CRIMINALS AND SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AS SUCH.
Trouble is, we do not live is a true law abiding democracy, something more akin to a military police state perpetual war machine, with a tads worth of democratic speech trimmings...
America is a strange place, very much akin to the Greek city states, civilized in places with wilderness areas between, some good some bad depending on your local gang leader and fiefdom.
The USSR was in a similar situation regarding technology, islands of hi tech and bland farming areas between, they had one advantage, an NHS and social system to bind their citizens together.
America needs more social to overcome the feudal influence, and bring the US together into the 21st century.
The 'state' thinks it can hold the country together at gunpoint, they are wrong, for a while all dictatorships survive, but eventually they collapse or fragment.
People have to want to be one, a happy healthy prosperous population has pride in being a country, people will not work 100% if the results of their labour are systematically stolen from them.
In other words, diplomacy would've worked. Saddam would've been putty in our hands because he needed protection. Nice job there Neocons. If only your penises were big enough, you could've spared 2 nations a lot of grief.
Now I here that Obams is looking out for DICK. WTF. They are worred about The Daily Show and John Stewart!!!! hell what we need is a good old march on the whitehouse. Sad to say it will not happen. America has lost its will to fight. Hell I rember when the farmers did there tractor thing. We have NO leaders today. The controled TV puts on what there told to put on TV. You got the left and wright talking shit all the time. keep the people fired up about shit. Keep them fighting with each other, this way they will NEVER come together to see what is realey going on. How in the hell can Dick C go on TV and brag about his war crimes and this bullshit goverment do Nothing?????
Why, because they are ALL in together. IF, people would just see it.
People think America will go on forever. Hell the people in Iran at least have some Balls. When will the people in the US grow some. If not, we will all wstch as America goes down the shiter.
George W Bush should be prosecuted for murder for knowingly sending our troops to war on false pretenses. There was no imminent threat of WMD's.
Wishful thinking! We have a pathetic DOJ that will not even prosecute for torture. Bunch of freaking cowards
I agree. The Administration knew he didn't have WMDs and instead was trying to cook up phoney intelligence via "defectors" and maybe waterboarding a couple of terrorists to get a "confession" or two.
Also, anyone else find the timing of this news coming hot on the heels of MJ's death? Someone trying to bury this little nugget of info?
Saddam Hussein was more interested in keeping the USA and the rest of the world safe from Islamic Extremists than George W. Bush ever was.
Anyone paying attention knew that going after Saddam was more about "He tried to kill my daddy!" than WMD.
He was bluffing and Cheney called his bluff and thousands are dead.
Cheney is such a POS.
Saddam had to ACT like he had WMD to keep Iran and Syria out of "his" country! What else could he do?
Tomorrow if I run over some one's grandma, I hope the idea that we should just move forward is still embraced by the general population. I understand the republicans pushing for everyone to just move forward, hell, there has never been any indication they give one little shit about anyone's life, unless they haven't yet been born. And of course then they ignore that same entity as soon as it is outside the womb. I really can't fathom letting these folks off easy, unless we are willing to do so in each and every case, maybe just let go of the entire idea of the justice system -- that's what we are about to initiate. PROSECUTE!
Ha -- Hussein was just pretending after capture to have been in control all the time. I read a great article 8 years ago with some of his nuclear scientists & the UN weapons inspectors. Hussein decided to rearm, but the scientists knew they couldn't do it with the UN there so lied to him that they were. The inspectors were right -- there were never weapons after the first program was dismantled, but Hussein didn't know it. The reason factions of the US intelligence were sure he had them was because they used spies that were close to him. Even B. Clinton said "we were really sure he had them." But significant portions of US intelligence believed the scientists, and guess who was right?
PS How cool actually to have the default Clinton be a woman now.
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