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Howard Kurtz has an interesting piece today about how some Fox News employees seem to think Glenn Beck taints their brand. Isn't this sort of like the madam in a brothel worrying about her reputation for virtue? The real shock in this story is that there are people at Fox News who still consider themselves "journalists" - funny, considering how they must already work within the ideological confines of Roger Ailes' famous daily memos:

In just over a year, Glenn Beck's blinding burst of stardom has often seemed to overshadow the rest of Fox News.

And that may not be a good thing for the top-rated cable news channel, as many of its staffers are acutely aware.

With his celebrity fueled by a Time cover story, best-selling books, cheerleading role at protest rallies and steady stream of divisive remarks, Beck is drawing big ratings. But there is a deep split within Fox between those -- led by Chairman Roger Ailes -- who are supportive, and many journalists who are worried about the prospect that Beck is becoming the face of the network.

By calling President Obama a racist and branding progressivism a "cancer," Beck has achieved a lightning-rod status that is unusual even for the network owned by Rupert Murdoch. And that, in turn, has complicated the channel's efforts to neutralize White House criticism that Fox is not really a news organization. Beck has become a constant topic of conversation among Fox journalists, some of whom say they believe he uses distorted or inflammatory rhetoric that undermines their credibility.

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fiver's picture

. . . is allowing FOX apologists to distance themselves from Glenn Beck. Funny, Kurtz's own WaPo op-ed pages spew pretty much the same drivel.

Who will distance Kurtz from Kristol?


Corruption favors the wealthy.

ricky's picture

What Post reporters has he given the anonymity to complain about what George Will's distortions might have done to the paper's scientific reputation? Or worse, what Sally Quinn has done to the respectability of party and internal family gossip?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

mnich13's picture

It's hard to have one's credibility undermined if one doesn't have any to begin with, it seems to me.

Imagine having to compete with the biggest psychopath at your work for potential advancement.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving collection of talentless liars.

savannah43's picture

DUH!

bibimimi's picture

they knew what they were getting with Beck but they stayed aboard this runaway train. just shut up and endorse your paycheck.

ferk berfel's picture

That Glen manager and that Tony consultant were pure aholes. SHould never have been hired in the first place. Totally ignorant . Physical abuse and spitting were par for the course.

House Of Roberts's picture

of Roger Ailes' point of view.

No matter how many sponsors Beck loses, he won't be taken off the air.

I hear he's down to Kaopectate as a sponsor now. Maybe they had better stay on board, if ever Beck's audience needed a product, it's Kaopectate.


Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.

wastelandusa's picture

electronic components...

Comes in handy when you need to spray a little inside your ear to clean out the empty space where everybody else stores their brains.

Liberalicious's picture
So

You're saying enema products would do well sponsoring Beck?

House Of Roberts's picture

as well as diarrhea. Since Beck's followers are anal-retentive, but also suffer from diarrhea of the mouth, are they not the perfect sponsor?

I suppose the Fleet Corporation would be appropriate as well, as they are headquartered in Lynchburg, Virginia, of all places.


Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.

Liberalicious's picture

would help Beck's viewers with any headaches I suppose.

maheanuu's picture

Just to make him Fleet of Mouth????

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

So much for reasonable, erudite and intellectual commentary--this is down to brass tacks, which are about the best metal to resist the corrosion of the spew.

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

not the usual commentators, like myself, who feel that this is one of the only (thousands) web spaces where I can get my voice heard, especially when I am drunk on a good organic Malbec wine, like now!

bibimimi's picture

denture creams and soaks?

Alecto2's picture

"Glenn Beck taint"
Glenn Beck is from my taint.

And, you know, Beck hasn't denied them.


Corruption favors the wealthy.

bonsai pajamas's picture

his possible rape and murder of a twelve year old, I suppose. You're right, he never has denied it. If he's innocent, why would he not say so? I heard he (possibly) ate the little girl's heart afterward.

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

...and ate their hearts as an appetizer. The little girl was the main course. Desert was an aborted fetus (baby?)

Desert was an aborted fetus (baby?)


I don't know, but he sure hasn't denied it.

Guilt by association?

Bob Stanley's picture

turn on their Sad/Scary Clowns. Glenn Beck is the new Orly Taitz.

brantl's picture

He's the old Orly Taitz.

ricky's picture

but does he do his own dental work?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

project's picture

He's the old Orly Taintz.
sorry for the correction.

Kreskin's picture

So Beck is even too much for Faux news ? Don't worry , given the mentality of the Fox viewers Beck is not a problem although I don't think he scored many points with his Christian viewers the other day . LOL


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

That Mick Piobr's picture

I'd shave it's arse and train it to walk backward.

Pete Seattle's picture

is the face of Faux Snooze, and fellow employees are upset?

Why?

Because it's too accurate a depiction?

Liberalicious's picture

What's that's saying about lying down with dogs? Cuz they sure seem to be whining about the Beck-fleas.

(Apologies to dogs around the world)

ronnie dobbs's picture

had any credibility to start with.

i know it's old hat but...fuck you fox "news".

pinkobait's picture

The professional asshole's professional asshole.


"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "

-Jack Handy

lsamsa's picture

no one at Fox is worried about 'reputation'...for that to happen they would have to have morals & ethics.
Anyone who works there & says they're worried...is just simply ticked that they aren't the one with the cushy & fun job of getting to act like a crazy person while being paid way too much money for doing so.
Beck knows exactly what he's doing & so does Ailes & Murdoch...what's truly scary are the morons at home who lap this crap up & beg for more.

savannah43's picture

I am going to hurt them.

Gretchen the aspiring elitist's picture

Back in the days when he was first on HLN I caught his show and laughed my ass off. I told the husband that CNN was finally getting with it and programmed a political satire show a la Colbert and Stewart.

The second time I watched, however, it started to dawn on me halfway through that this nut was serious. Scared the hell out of me! He wasn't even half the crazy he is now either.

lsamsa's picture

I don't think for a second that Beck is funny...no way...he's indeed very scary, nevermind the zombies that follow his every breath!
What I meant is that the morons who work at Fox, including said Beck, would think it 'fun' to do what he does...their perpective, not mine.
Just wanted to clarify.

Note: this is in reply to savannah. Why can't I get the 'replies' to come after the post I'm replying to??

Mr. Green Jeans's picture

Just second in line.


"Let's talk dirty to the animals"

DamOTclese's picture

Beck is the latest Art Bell, a man who caused the Heaven's Gate mass suicide.

It's probably a case of envy /jealousy , the others don't like all the attention Professor Beck is getting . The right wing's answer to Paul Krugman . LOL .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

Wesley E. Ledjennes's picture

what you EAT.

Tax the Rich's picture

They are just jealous that they didn't think of it first.

Acting batshit crazy and psychotic on the air is a ratings boom on Fox? Who could have ever thunk it?

Ha ha Sean, it was right there under your nose the whole time, and you let Gleenbo take it all.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

All the while that Hannity was Behind the Wheel of the Stupid Bus taking stupidity to the limit, Beck just blew on by him on the Crazy Train. How can anybody compete with Glenn now. What, you gonna light your head on fire, eat dog crap, what? It's too late FoxTardettes you've been chumped. Now sit there and read your list of lies. No funny hats, no bulb horns, no chalkboard, just read the lies. Thank you, that will be all.

project's picture

I think the insanity that is hannity holds his own when it comes to crazy! He just doesn't spend half the time crying. But he is every bit as crazy as beck afterall he is a republican. Need I say anything else?
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness it has killed our economy the afhgans the Iraqi's and ruined the lives of millions hear and in the middle east.

congressive's picture

"Beck has become a constant topic of conversation among Fox journalists, some of whom say they believe he uses distorted or inflammatory rhetoric that undermines their credibility."

"Fox journalists" - that's a good one! "Fox...credibility" - another knee slapper!

Gretchen the aspiring elitist's picture

about words that just don't make sense when put together.

Aerdna's picture

I thought they only had like 4 hours of 'news' and the rest was 'opinion', or some bs like that. Since they call themselves 'Fox News', maybe they should change it to 'Fox Opinion'....yeah, like they would do that.

No wonder the rest of the world laughs at the US. Constantly.

Joementum's picture

That's like complaining that Charlie is the black sheep of the Manson family.

Lou Dobbs being the face of CNN? I am sure we will soon find out
what reliable sources at CNN say about Mr. Kurtz to New York tabloids.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

When this fool, Beck finally jumps the shark for the last time, you will be hard pressed to find anyone who will admit to watching him with any degree of seriousness. They will all say it was just for curiosity, much like a ticket to a freak show. Lomesome Rhoads any one?

Joementum's picture

Morton Downey Jr.

Liberalicious's picture
WOW

that WAS a train wreck. Shows how these types just become totally obscure and die in oblivion later on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton_Downey,_Jr.

Tax the Rich's picture

I was just thinking the same thing.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

Gretchen the aspiring elitist's picture

Beck and Palin made an appearance together this past weekend in Tulsa. When I heard that I was afraid the universe would be sucked into the black hole of stupid created by putting them together on the same stage.

Joementum's picture

It's not like Tulsa needed helping dragging down the median IQ

House Of Roberts's picture

to early Star Trek, to understand that phenomenon. You see, it's matter and anti-matter that can't exist in the same space, without destroying this dimension. Since Beck and Palin are both doesn't matter, it's ok!


Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.

DamOTclese's picture

I was thinking more of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy series where the pile of shoes manufactured became so great that the gravity of their mass caused an event horizon in to which the mother planet disappeared, prompting the survivors to evolve without feet on other planets.

The level of STUPID at any Republican National Convention (or airport men's room where they gather) should cause regional collapses all over the fucking place.

Excelsior's picture

Lomesome Rhoads any one?

I am impressed. Not many people around know THAT reference.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

Bob Stanley's picture

out-of-control freight train and he knows it. There's no where to go when you pretend to be that crazy. His Comedy Tour Glenn Beck character, which was more wise curmudgeon, bombed.

His Hate Train is ready to fly off the tracks.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

his credibility. To which I say what credibility?

"they believe he uses distorted or inflammatory rhetoric that undermines their credibility" Kurtz destroys his own credibility as well. As a media critic he should give examples of the distortions or rhetoric. Second as an ethical journalist by not giving examples he is simply using his print soap box to promote anonymous attacks of an unspecified nature on his broadcast paymaster's competition.

The madame in the brother analogy is apt, but it would be better stated if the madame's complaints were identified as coming from the hooker at the whorehouse next door.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

Seriously's picture

ya think?

DamOTclese's picture

WTF? Why would any employee of FOX think that Glen Beck is some how different from the rest of them? They are all fucking insane traitors.

The Skeptic Tank gets requests for interviews or comment from mainstream news outlets from time to time, and the policy has always been to not provide anyone affiliated with the FOX Network with anything but to decline. If everyone refused to play with FOX traitors, they would not be the treasonous criminal enterprise that they are and no employee would feel tainted.

but do they really think those who don't adore Beck think of him as the FACE OF FOX as opposed to a nether part of the network?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

truthmatters's picture

Do you actually ever watch the show from beginning to end for say, a few weeks? Part of being involved is to challenge yourself with ideas that don't fit into your current mindset. Anyone can seek out only people that agree with them. Wouldn't you rather know the truth, no matter which argument it serves? I don't give a crap about a political party, I want truth that fits in with the Founder's constitution.

Pete Seattle's picture

from assclowns, if that's what suits you.

truthmatters's picture

What is your opinion of Olbermann?

Pete Seattle's picture
yes

it's obvious schtick, from beginning to end.
I don't care about Olbermann one way or the other,
assclowns get their news from the tee vee box.
If you want information, you need to read.
If you want mindless 'entertainment' the king of the assclowns, Becky, is your man.

Arguing in support of him just makes you look the fool, but go ahead, it's no skin off my nose.

Liberalicious's picture

Give examples of Olbermann blantant lying to advance an agenda. Oh that's right, you can't. Go on believing the the insane crazy cat lady too, why don't you?

Pete Seattle's picture

him away.

truthmatters's picture

Beck is just an example. Just because I mentioned him, it's not the only place I get news/information from--I'm here aren't I? I even read books-imagine that? What information do you read--only stuff that agrees with one viewpoint? Pete Seattle, what do you like for most reliable info source? I don't have a quote right now of Olbermann, but when I hear him most of the time I hear in my face, slanted news. Do you not agree he approaches from the left?

Pete Seattle's picture

therein lies the problem, you think his assclowning is news, in some form.

I feel sorry for you.

truthmatters's picture

lady?

Rich H's picture

or Sarah Palin. Take your pick.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Excelsior's picture

Wingnuts automatically equate the volume with which a person says something with the amount of truth they're speaking. So to them, ANYONE who speaks loudly MUST be telling the truth. Olbermann flummoxes them because he's both a liberal and VERY VERY LOUD. This makes no sense to them and makes them confused. Therefore, when we point out that Beck is a lying, hypocritical bigot who's losing his mind, they naturally toss Olbermann back at us, as if the fact that Beck is a mendacious moron automatically means that anyone else who yells must be the same.

See, they're deeply intimated by any liberal who stand sup for himself and his beliefs. They just want everyone who ISN'T a wingnut to speak quietly, so that they can always, ALWAYS shout them down. That's their sole means of communication, so anyone else who uses it is a threat to their precious gonads.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

DamOTclese's picture

"Begging the question." The FOX traitors don't do truth, ergo your claim falls to a fatal logic fault.

Try again?

truthmatters's picture

Once again, too easy. There are people in the world that see things differntly from you--we don't really want the government to do more then it's constitutionally allowed to do. Is that so bad?

all the Bush and Cheney illegality unconstitutionality crap was aok...FOX cheer-led that shit all the way...aided and abetted by the NYT and Judith Miller.

IOKIYAR...we've heard it for years.

DamOTclese's picture

You idiot, you just employed the fatal logic fallacy "begging the question" again.

Try again?

of the FOX 'News' employees who are wetting their Depends over it. So what indeed! They've crapped in their nest with morons like beck, now hand them a shovel. I personally, am happy a certifiable Bozo is closely associated with and quite possibly the face of, that pack of liars.

How do you think the authors here get this wacky crap that gets posted? They've been watching it for YEARS, einstein.

BTW, I notice more often than not, people who chose handles like 'truthmatters' are FOX 'News' watchers, and take it seriously, thereby rendering the handle ironic and sadly, pathetically hilarious

truthmatters's picture

Are you against the truth? There are no left leaning news organizations that have morons or say things that turn out to be untrue? NYT, LA Times, AP? I've seen blatant lies from AP, miss stating things that I saw or heard live.

miss_kitty's picture

against the truth? I didn't see where I said I knew much about you where was that in my comment? Why do you hate America? See how that non sequitur questioning works?

There is no left leaning MSM news. All the ones you mention are nowhere near left, if you think your example the AP is 'left' you are seriously deluded. One of the lies you believe coming from FOX 'News' and others in the same echo chamber you frequent, no doubt.

Who is 'Miss Stating?' I've never heard of her.

truthmatters's picture

you fall into the same traps you accuse the right of falling into. You cheer stuff the Dems do, ignore the bad stuff. Do you have kids? Do you think about how certain policies are just bad for the country? I support principles, people(politicians, news people, bloggers) will almost always let you down. I'd love to see all the crooks in Washington, left and right taken down. Liberal ideas always sound good at first, but they're corrosive. They erode people's drive. Enough for now, let me have it. You got me with the miss stating, good one.

Andy K's picture

Or is that "miss stake"?

Either way, you shouldn't make the assumption that everyone here is a big fan of the Democratic Party. There's more nuance to it than you can handle.

BTW, you're going to be paying for that mistake in 3, 2, 1....

miss_kitty's picture

I haven't cheered on the Dems for decades.

Do you guys not realise that you fall in to the same trap you accuse lost time posters of when you just decide to 'drop in' and school us here? That you are about #9,999,999 in a long line of college republicans who are practicing your poor life training.

And again w/ the non sequitur questions. Why do you love George Bush? Why do you hate America? You never answered that one.

Liberal ideas erode people's drive? Really who told you that? How many countries with socialised human services? They have to work hard to maintain that. Conservative ideas are never good. They crush personal liberties, allow big business to run roughshod over the populace and generally promote selfishness, hate, bureaucracy and totalitarianism. Read a REAL book some day, son.

And WTF is this:

I support principles, people(politicians, news people, bloggers) will almost always let you down.

Change of thought in midstream much?

As for the 3,2,1-dog walking.

truthmatters's picture

then you are surrounded, immersed in the left. West coast? Whatever. The AP is definitely left, not far left, but definitely left of center.

Rich H's picture

Gosh, I hope I didn't disturb the neighbors.

1).Democracy Now

That's it. You know it, right? The news program with the anchorwoman who looks like a middle school English teacher? The one you flip right by on your cable system's public access station? Probably right next to C-Span VIII? No?

miss_kitty's picture

you learn that on FOX 'News'

Really the wrong place to go for knowledge, if you care to look somewhat intelligent

Pete Seattle's picture

"The AP is definitely left"

in the paranoid swamp of your mind, maybe.
please seek professional help.

Pete Seattle's picture
lol

you really think those corporate news organs are "left leaning"...
you're so far out in right field that you can't even see the stadium any more.

DamOTclese's picture

Or a troll.

Pete Seattle's picture

.

DamOTclese's picture

1) A rightarded loon
2) A troll
3) A rightarded loon troll
4) ???
5) profit!

Wouldn't you rather know the truth, no matter which argument it serves?

Yes, I would and Beckastan is not even on the same planet with reality. Your perspective may be that he is Mr.Constition but there are vast numbers that would question wheather you are even reading the same constitution.
Beck is not only an embarassment to Fox he is an embarassment to the US and humanity as a whole. Don't let his phony sincerity act fool you, underneath it all -stripping away all the scary word play he is Disgusting to the core,.

Some people analyze reported “facts” to get to the truth. If the facts don’t add up, they are discarded. Others just try to get to their agenda, regardless of the facts.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Joementum's picture

Hadn't heard that one in years

Artist formerly known as gempei's picture

and lit the fuse.

You made your filthy bed, Fox News, now lie in it.

bad_robbie's picture

Beck has become a constant topic of conversation among Fox journalists, some of whom say they believe he uses distorted or inflammatory rhetoric that undermines their credibility.

What a curious place to draw the line . . .

Peter G's picture

Their credibility consists of sandcastles in the air, in the eye of a hurricane and certified by Haitian building inspectors.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

Beck, O'Really, Handjobitty. What a bunch.

pjmurphy's picture

Fox News doesn't exactly ooze journalism. But there are a few who stand out from the crop of the crap. I would like to think they were very concerned about Beck staining their credibility, not to mention their careers.

FreeDUMB's picture

Now they will say Beck is a progressive plot to undermine conservative values.

And that is simply that since comming to FOX, Beck has stolen the spotlight from Bill and Sean and it much be agonizing for them to have to play second fiddle to this idiot. Anything that gets their goat has an upside.

that undermines their credibility.

Ya think?!!!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

futt the wuck's picture

Yeah...of course, that's the issue....

Putting those two terms together is
kinda like walking into a bar
and watching Volstead's ghost buying rounds for the house.

Paul's picture

I don't see Glenn Beck ever being able to displace Joseph Goebbels as the true face of FOX Fruadcasting. He's more the face of their motley fool.

Bluestocking's picture

Puh-leeeeeeeeeeeze -- if that doesn't prove that human beings have a tremendous capacity for self-delusion, I don't know what does! FOX News journalists work for Rupert Murdoch...that's really all you really need to know. To all appearances, Murdoch thinks that "journalistic ethics" and "journalistic integrity" are contradictions in terms.


Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.

bigironal's picture

Although Fox is famous for hiring ass holes for journalists, they aren't completely bat-fuck insane like Beck is and sooner or later I think that even Pig Boy Roger Ailes will put his fork down long enough to FIRE Glen....maybe!

EdisonCarter's picture

I wonder...is Beck a mole? He is so over the top it often sounds like The Colbert Report in real life...hmm...

ferk berfel's picture

The proper term is ahole.

ferk berfel's picture

WAA WAA WAA where's my vicks vaporub? I need to get back to my crying.

WAAA WAA WAAA MOMMY CHANGE MY DIAPER WAAA!

thelonegunman's picture

they've given the nation so much else... like (drop-out) Hannity, and (sexual harrasser) BoR, and the three empty-headed buffoons of FandF, and the regular airing of the drug-addict and costa rican sex junketeer Limbaugh... not to mention Geralado, the fascist-loving Coulter, and the racist Malkin...

they shouldn't be worried simply about Beck... they should look at their entire line-up and worry...

Patriot Actor's picture

a journalist at Fox would be an oxymoron?

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Or a nun in a whorehouse?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Beck is the face of all the ignorant, racist, teabagging wing-nuts on Faux Noise and lard-ass Limp-Dick is their ranting, racist leader on radio.

mjb's picture

Thank you for the laugh.

Yeah that is pretty LOLable.

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