What's that word they use for a society where the group of those with money and power are above the law? Oh, that's right: Oligarchy! While this regulatory capture continued, how many of us filled up our homes with these toxic products? Via Think Progress:
Large manufacturers and chemical producers have lobbied ferociously to stop the National Institutes of Health from classifying formaldehyde as a carcinogen. A wide body of research has linked the chemical to cancer, but industrial polluters have stymied regulators from action.
Last year, the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer reported that billionaire David Koch, whose company Georgia Pacific (a subsidiary of Koch Industries) is one of the country’s top producers of formaldehyde, was appointed to the NIH cancer board at a time when the NIH delayed action on the chemical. The news was met with protests from environmental groups. Faced with mounting pressure from Greenpeace and the scientific community, Koch offered an early resignation from the board in October.
Yesterday, the NIH finally handed down a report officially classifying formaldehyde as a carcinogen:
Government scientists listed formaldehyde as a carcinogen, and said it is found in worrisome quantities in plywood, particle board, mortuaries and hair salons. They also said that styrene, which is used in boats, bathtubs and in disposable foam plastic cups and plates, may cause cancer but is generally found in such low levels in consumer products that risks are low. Frequent and intense exposures in manufacturing plants are far more worrisome than the intermittent contact that most consumers have, but government scientists said that consumers should still avoid contact with formaldehyde and styrene along with six other chemicals that were added Friday to the government’s official Report on Carcinogens. Its release was delayed for years because of intense lobbying from the chemical industry, which disputed its findings.
An investigation by ProPublica found that Sens. David Vitter (R-LA) and James Inhofe (R-OK) had used their power to add years of delay to the report. The piece linked Vitter to lobbying from Koch’s Georgia Pacific company, which has plywood plants in Louisiana.
I guess now we know why Republicans weren't pushing David Vitter to resign.


About 90 percent of atmospheric formaldehyde is naturally produced. It has, of course, had controlled exposure limits as long as I've been working as a known hazard. Your body can produce significant amounts under certain circumstances.
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Avoid methanol.
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Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
And they say to stay hydrated. We need water for our very survival. There's moisture everywhere, we are ugly bags of mostly water. Your body can produce significant amounts under certain circumstances. Yet oddly enough, if you ingest (or inhale) too much water, you can die.
Dose makes the poison.
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of losing developer contributions can cause flooding which can lead to too much water. Not sure if the death toll is as high as that from unreported deaths from
liposuction centers.
I am glad to finally know why Republicans did not call for Vitter's resignation.
It has been such a mystery. Wonder if we will find out why he is partial to wearing diapers before the Kochs die?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
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Avoid drinking formaldehyde too. Formaldehyde exposure has been controlled for a very long time. The chief potential exposure for humans would, as the article notes, be wood products like OSB and plywood but not to worry. The industry has been converting to other glues based on iso-cyanates for some time. Google that one.
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in formaldehyde - ASAP!!!
It would be good for the nation.
You mean good for the planet.
Can we expunge all Republicans from our shores before they destroy the whole fucking planet in the name of profit?
They need to go.
Wouldn't purge be better? Expunge has such right wing connotations.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
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OligarchyOil-igarchyfixed it
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
WTF was he doing on the NIH cancer board in the first place? Does he have a medical degree?
and Board member of the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Instttute was probably the cover for justifying his appoitnment to one of the public member positions. The fact that he is a major political donor and the appointment is made by a political official (President G.W. Bush) may have had something or other to do with it as well.
Keep in mind the Board's official title is Advisory Board. It's power is limited. And it had 18 voting members.
http://deainfo.nci.nih.gov/advisory/ncab/ncab...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Lobbying against science. "Hi we're the Kochs, and we have so much money, we're lobbying against facts." Remember, when you watch Nova now, David Koch makes an endowment to that show that's large enough to get his name in the credits and announced by voice.
On a renewable energy program 'Power Surge', not only do they say even though Fukishima happened, nuclear is still the best way to go (In the intro), a 'scientist' was giddy over the use of coal, spoke of never getting away from it, that it was impossible. At that point it's RIP Nova. At least when Koch interests are being discussed.
This whole rich man poor man crap has turned the needy public information sources into whores.
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Superfund would have a field day with this if they were properly funded. Instead, we're likely to get no new sites listed in the next few decades and that means it'll be a silent killer for awhile longer.
Does anyone expect the main stream media to report on this?
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and is now in rehab, the penis must not be fored to resign. That would be a distraction.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/10/27/27gre...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
And the operative phrase in the body of the quote, came from an article dated 10 June 2011.
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The operative phrase in the headline has nothing to do with the question
someone else asked, which was whether the MSM would cover this.
I linked to much earlier coverage in the New York Times on the topic of Mr. Koch and his membership on the NCI Advisory Board.
But thanks for pointing out that what is operative in both the headline and the body of the post. Now let us find a single fact which justifies either as a causal factor in any governement action.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
you called it.
Your post implied this was 8 month old news. I was pointing out part 2 of the story, as it were, happened on Friday. Lots of people (me included) don't always click the links. I'm sure you are aware of that.
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Just that it had been covered, and much earlier than it has been covered here.
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One, which was not covered by C&L, 8 months ago, and the other, being covered today, which is current.
This isn't a fuckin newspaper. It's an opinion site. Are you objecting to it being covered now because they didn't cover a different story 8 months ago?
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or that it should be.
Try reading question posted by gfm975:
'Does anyone expect the main stream media to report on this?"
Try reading response by ricky:
"How about 8 months before C&L covered it." followed by a link to the New York Times reporting on the issue.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
This: "The report also lists aristolochic acids, found in plants and sometimes used in herbal medicines, as a known carcinogen and added to the list of probable carcinogens other substances like captafol (a fungicide no longer sold in the United States), finely spun glass wool fibers (used in insulation), cobalt-tungsten carbide (used in manufacturing), riddelliine (plants eaten by cattle, horses and sheep) and ortho-nitrotoluene (used in dyes). " I did not know that the herbal medicine people were selling carcinogens. Just like tobacco companies. The point I would make M-K is that the science speaks for itself. That's what people should pay attention to. The linkage to Koch is entirely irrelevant when you look at the overall report.
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including all those who attack or ignore me (I'm looking at you miss_kitty) everytime I point out something less than helpful to the chorus raised by her highly scientific and factual reporting:
Answer this:
Name one action taken by David Koch as a member of the National Cancer Insitute Advisory Board than had an impact on formaldehyde research or government regulatory action. Their meetings are public. Their minutes are online.
I think you will find that while Koch was on this advisory board, NCI continued work that helped lead to the designations of formaldehyde as a carcinogen, and that the delays
of regulatory action involved the EPA, not the NCI. Follow the links from the Think Progress post to ProPublica. The record does not remove the taint from Vitter nor Koch from being Koch. But they sure don't support the contention that Koch's membership on an advisory body had anything to do with any of this.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
The Kochs are the greatest force FOR POLLUTION, carcinogens and against climate change research in this country. Their ideology (John Birch) used to be considered dangerously radical, and it used to be against the law for anyone subscribing to it to be elected.
The Koch name clearly has tremendous weight and has made many cringe, in fear of both its power and its vindictiveness.
The other weird thing about the Koch name is that the GOP believes it has enormous magical power.
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Point to an action that would confirm the point of this post, that David Koch's membership and departure from membership on an advisory board had anythinbg to do with research on, or regulation of, formaldehyde.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
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http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/10/27/27gre...
Didn't you read it?
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with providing a single shred of evidence that there was anything David Koch did on the NCI Advisory Board that had an impact on NCI research or any governmental regulatory action? Surely there is at least a shred.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
No backroom deals. No wink wink nudge nudge you'll do this if you know what's good for you crap. If they have asked about an obvious conflict, how fast do you think our speedy gov will get back to them?
I'm done. This is why I ignore you ricky. You aren't ON ignore, but I failed this time and took the bait. I have much better things to do with my time than argue with a guy I don't know on the internet.
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You call your inability to provide an answer an argument.
Perhas you should avoid further response. Perhaps the author of the post, who is sure there is a connection should provide the answer.
After all, Koch's membership on this Board apparently answered the question she had been unable to answer for years as to why Republicans did not call for Vitter's resignation. At least she guesses it does.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
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http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/10/27/27gre...
So is your contention that nothing happens 'off the record' as re the NIH? Because that's what it sounds like.
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Don't show me uniformed journalism and commentary.
The report issued by NIH was by the National Toxicolgy Program, which is under a totally seperate Institute (NIEH) than the National Cancer Institute, Here, read their report. It contains a whole section on the process they follow. The National Cancer Insitute has no official role.
http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=035E57E7-B...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
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are you posting links in which you have no faith as proof when convenient for you? That's kind of disingenuous, ricky.
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to me with in addition to four letter Anglo-Saxon commands. But....
I did not offer the linked article as proof of anything other than the fact that a MSM outlet had covered the story.
The fact that people have been stirring this up as an issue for some time does not mean there has ever been any substance to any allegation.
I am asking for substance. I am getting zero.
I didn't post these events as fact. I am not even denying they may be true.
I am saying there is no proof offered that Koch's membership and resignation near the end of his six year term had anything to do with anything. I am challenging anyone to produce it.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
David Koch IS a cancer.
Hold David Koch down and have him drink a glass formaldehyde.
Observe David for a couple of years.
Hope he breathed a lot of deadly chemicals for all I care.
The rich and powerful don't care about us. They'd rather make a buck than do what's morally right. They would kill us for that money.
These people will rot in hell, and if there is no hell, I can only hope for Instant Karma.
I remember in my gross anatomy class 25 years ago, one of my instructors would insist on doing her dissections with bare hands, said there was nothing to hurt you, as if you were a wimp if you wore gloves(which I always did). The whole lab reeked of formalin. I'm sure bathing your hands in cadavers which were soaked with it was not a good idea.
Plutocracy is really a more accurate description.
;)
I wonder if they will remove formaldehyde from the vaccines that contain it?
such as:
DTP
DTaP
Flu Vaccines
Inactivated Polio
Hib
Hep A
Hep B
Tetanus (Td)
will they remove it from beer?
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you intend to inject beer (cheap ones at that) into infants?
no, he intends to inject "moderation" into any and all discussions.
NIOSH has classed it as a carcinogen (nasal cancer) for ages, and OSHA follows what they say. Different agencies don't always take the same approach or use the same criteria to establish levels of concern. Anything that guy's involved with is dirty.
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