Senate Expected To Vote This Week On Bringing Health-Care Bill To Floor
The vote on bringing the bill to the floor may happen by the end of this week:
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid scrambled Tuesday to lock down votes behind a health-care bill that he may present as early as Wednesday.
The Nevada Democrat would not confirm that he had received commitments from all 60 members of his caucus to overcome GOP procedural objections and bring the bill to the Senate floor, saying only, "I feel cautiously optimistic that we can do that. I think we're together as a caucus."
[...] Preliminary estimates by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the legislation's official scorekeeper, have indicated that the Senate measure would cost far less than the bill the House approved last week, while lowering the federal deficit further over the long term, said several senior Democratic aides who have reviewed the CBO data.
Which, of course, makes me wonder: Who did the Senate leave out?
Democrats are hopeful about winning over at least one Republican, Sen. Olympia J. Snowe, on a vote for final passage. But the Maine moderate has pledged to support a GOP filibuster at the outset because Reid's bill is expected to include a public-insurance option that she opposes.
UPDATE from TPM:
Under the terms of the bill, Medicaid would be expanded to cover everybody up to 133 percent of the poverty line. And in a move that will disappoint progressives, tax credits to buy health insurance would be limited to those between 133 and 300 percent of poverty line. (People between 300 and 400 percent of poverty would not be provided any direct federal assistance, but insurers would not be able to set their premiums at more than 9.8 percent of their annual income.)
Here we go again. That's not going to be enough to make it affordable to most people, and it has to change in the final version. Call your Congress critter!


Harry Reid is going to intentionally fuck this up.
He'll bring it to the floor, won't have the votes, look like a jackass (which won't matter because politicians looking like jackasses has no political consequences. People expect politicians to look like jackasses, and lobbyists pay politicians big bucks to look like jackassess), make MORE concessions in the name of having a bill and then get a big bag of shit passed that will help no one and enrich the insurance industry.
Mark my words.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I truly hope you are wrong, but I won't bet against it, knowing these spineless Dems.
I can't fathom how can it possible get more f*cked up, but then again...
You've GOT to be kidding!!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I take...
I think you're right. I don't have much hope that anything except corporate enrichment and a crushing mandate on the people are what we're going to wind up with.
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
If Harry Reid wants to guarantee passage, he just needs to rename this bill the "New Patriot Act". Claim that it helps keep America safe from terrorists and that anybody who votes against it or tries to prevent cloture is "providing material support to terrorists" and, as per the law, will be waterboarded and executed.
Okay, maybe that's going too far. But it *would* be nice if Democrats weren't such impotent nerds when it came to demagoguery and turning a legislative issue into a moral one.
Is this when Coburn is threatening to read the whole bill on the floor of the Senate just to prove, to anyone who doubted, that he is indeed a total asshole?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
of circumventing this bullshit of having to read the entire bill outloud was to punk the Repugs -- have 50 Dems stand up at the same time and have all 50 of them start reading 40 pages each of the bill so that each Senator is reading another new portion of it. That would amount to the 2,000 pages of the bill being read aloud in about 2 hours. Then they can say STFU, you assholes. We read the bill outloud now, CHOKE ON IT.
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
Or will this be like the House version where we find we've been screwed only after it's too late to do anything about it?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
then the house version.
tweaked and rewrote to their advantage since the house version passed to present to the House of Lords.
instead of spending all their time with constant slavish adoration of Lady Gaga and hankering for her love.
obviously health care costs and the deficit matter... but, speaking only for myself, the main crux of the argument in supporting REAL healthcare reform should have been that healthcare is a fundamental human right--that should be guaranteed to every american citizen.
in all the back and forth in the msm one rarely hears about the deaths, the shattered lives, the missed care, and the such that goes hand in hand with the for-profit health system. no, the issue is portrayed as simply a matter of $$.
i don't ever remember NASA, pentagon, homeland security, DEA, etc. having to justify their budgetary cost savings, nor their impact on the deficit in order to get funding...
or affordable?
.
The details that is.
I know the Gaga generation would prefer everything be free but that's a ways off. If ever.
how much do you spend on predator drones, or stealth bombers, or blackwater? (figure it like that)
Enough to provide a college education to EVERY child in the US of A...GRATIS.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
It's about priorities.
We have all the money we need to blow up other people to advance the interests of large corporation. No one mentions deficits THEN.
But HOLY SHIT...spend money to provide healthcare to all, or to feed poor children, or to improve infrastructure and HOLY FUCK WE'RE GOIN' BROKE!!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Wall Street Back On Top, Earnings Could BREAK '07 Record
Wow man it's like . . . .
They must be eternally grateful to Geithner . . Health Care for all! Trumpets!!!!!!!
The kicker is....it's OUR money!!!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
we'll never see this back either once it's been dropped in Wall Streets jaws and it heads offshore.
For the first time, the war in Afghanistan in the next budget year will cost Americans more than the war in Iraq. By the end of the next fiscal year, which starts Oct. 1, the total military budget costs for both wars will have exceeded $1 trillion.
http://features.csmonitor.com/economyrebuild/...
"All told, the bill for the Iraq war is likely to top $3 trillion. And that's a conservative estimate." -- Stiglitz
This is cigarette change! Right?
*must resist*
richest, hee hee, we are the debtiest country
these "wars" . . ever wonder about that? Which is it Empire or are we just doing other countries dirty work?
that would be china
But but but...if we don't support the troops...we will have to fight the enemy here...our citizens will be in danger...which will undermine our way of life...and then...and then...THE TERRORISTS WIN?!?!?
Oh nooooooooooooo...no no no....oh please....nooooooo.
Ya know, I've seen this movie before...and it wasn't any better the first time around.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
the cgi has gotten very lifelike...
Yes...especially the climax when flying monkeys burst free from the anus of Rush Limbaugh to smote the evil Muslims.
Very inspiring.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
..from the right wing loons who want them cowering in their closets and reading lousy $8.98 policy books written by people who lie..alot.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091118/us_nm/us_...
we've got all those little brown people who talk funny and wear bath towels on their head to blow up before they desecrate our plastic Jesus!
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
struggles to get one dime out of the House of Lords appropriations committee but pentagon, homeland security and black opps have carte blanche. Name it and claim it is the mantra, it would seem. We the people own 80% of AIG after the bailout, but we the people can't get jobs, healthcare and have to struggle until the Repukes finally deign to extend unemployment benefits. Fucking bastards. Excuse my language, but I'm fed up.
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
my apologies to NASA
A few hundred billion for the Medical Insurance/Big Pharma Mafia is hard to find after:
A trillion dollar per year Imperial Corporate perpetual war budget AND $14 trillion to the Banksters.
Maybe they will do it.
They can save money by herding the poor and soon to be poor people, of which there are many, all into Medicaid and then making it so stingy no provider will take it. Poor people do not organize and they don't vote much.
They can save money the same way with Medicare, except they need to be a little careful since seniors vote.
They will get something to call reform, the Pope of Hope (R-Government Sachs) will give a speech and many will be impressed.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
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Naah...they'll just build an exchange where you can trade your unused healthcare credits.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
We're well on our way to black markets for blood & organs and medical procedures being performed in "non-certified" institutions (i.e. alley ways).
Is this URL taken?
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"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
.. "Jiffy Appy"
meme so popular with the globalists.
I'm getting damn sick of the lying MSM calling right wing nuts moderate. By current MSM standards I guess Pol Pot and Hitler were moderates.
has no idea what kind of pot you are talking about.
this is how long it takes to pass a bill when one political party controls government.
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