Sources: Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment To Be Stripped By Sen. Inouye
By Susie Madrak Friday Oct 23, 2009 8:00amThis is infuriating. If there was any doubt in your mind as to whose side the political establishment is on, this should settle it:
An amendment that would prevent the government from working with contractors who denied victims of assault the right to bring their case to court is in danger of being watered down or stripped entirely from a larger defense appropriations bill.
Multiple sources have told the Huffington Post that Sen. Dan Inouye, a longtime Democrat from Hawaii, is considering removing or altering the provision, which was offered by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and passed by the Senate several weeks ago.
Inouye's office, sources say, has been lobbied by defense contractors adamant that the language of the Franken amendment would leave them overly exposed to lawsuits and at constant risk of having contracts dry up. The Senate is considering taking out a provision known as the Title VII claim, which (if removed) would allow victims of assault or rape to bring suit against the individual perpetrator but not the contractor who employed him or her.
"The defense contractors have been storming his office," said a source with knowledge of the situation. "Inouye either will get the amendment taken out altogether, or water it down significantly. If they water it down, they will take out the Title VII claims. This means that in discrimination cases, they will still force you into a secret forced arbitration on KBR's (or other contractors') own terms -- with your chances of prevailing practically zero. The House seems to be very supportive of the original Franken amendment and all in line, but their hands are tied since it originated in the Senate. And since Inouye runs the show on this bill, he can easily take it out to get Republicans and the defense contractors off his back, which looks increasingly likely."
A Democratic aide on the Hill, also with knowledge of the situation, confirmed the account, as did a source who works on defense contracting matters outside of Congress. "The contractors are putting on a full-court press on this amendment... they are all doing it," said the latter source.
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"Inouye's office, sources say, has been lobbied by defense contractors adamant that the language of the Franken amendment would leave them overly exposed to lawsuits and at constant risk of having contracts dry up. "
in other words, we'll lose contracts unless we're allowed to continue being able to break the law...
Gotta love all these "family values" free market über alles conservatives, who tell other people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, while making their money out of no-bid contracts which allow them to suck off the public tit. They are such bad business people that they can't stay in business unless they are allowed to break the law.
F*ck them! Enough is enough...
We take it and reelect the same old a.. holes they screw us...
They elected officials we have in office are only looking out for themselves. And they do this by screwing us so these Global Empires can have everything they wish and we pay for it..
We are renters in our country and that is only the ones which are lucky enough to still have their jobs and afford it..
So lets run out to the warehouses ,, which we call stores that hold and sell the products for China , India and other foreign countries where the corporation in this country have moved their businesses to..
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Q U E S T I O N:
When RAPE and MURDER is rewarded by members of Congress...
... One can't help but ask what principle do these Congress members stand upon?
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Today it was reported by the AP that KBR is being sued for human trafficking of people from third world countries to work in Iraq for little money. They were denied their papers, and could not leave.
Republicans: The party of rape, kidnapping, human trafficking and general lawlessness.
Democrats: The party of bending over and taking it from the Republicans.
What do we see in the democrats in the line of change and transparent government???
Obama has had more dealing with the republicans and passing legislations to protect Bush , Cheney and the republicans then he has with dealing with the voters which elected him on his campaign promises..
What in the h... is the difference between the republicans and the democrats except the type of BS they feed us..
Obama made great speeches but looks as if he didn't mean a d... word of it's contexts..
NO renegotiation of the free trade bill which by now has outsourced over 6 million jobs overseas.
They can no longer protect the citizens of this country because of their outsourcing of our manufacturing plants and jobs..
The Flu & H1N1 vaccines that are now produced in other countries , so they are using their production of these vaccines to protect their citizens first and then when the outbreak is over we might get some..
Their talk and BS in plentiful and Cheap , because we are receiving plenty of it..
Americans have lost their will to standup and fight for their jobs , benefits , democracy , freedom and constitution..
We have become a nation of complainers and are no longer fighters.. Look at the Iraqi and other countries citizens they are fighting against our nation with sticks and rocks to stop the takeover of their country.....
Principles? WHAT fucking principles? The Senate should be dissolved. It's basically the "House Of Lords", preserving the "rights" of the wealthy versus the "rights" of the "hopeful" that put them there.
See nothing wrong with Bush administration's criminal , dictatorial crimes and corruption.
Not only is Obama and Emanuel censoring the information of their crimes they are passing laws to make it legal and not to prosecute them.
I wonder just how many democrats were either involved or went along with Bush's torture , treason , illegal spying and his total destruction of our economy..
They certainly are very quiet and not talking about it..
He.. Cheney and Bush has even arrogantly confessed openly in the news media of their corruption.
How can anyone have respect for these so-called elected officials..
The outsourcing of American jobs should have been their own jobs..
WTF, what are these corporations saying, that they can't guarantee that their employees are not rapists and murderers? They may as well say they send headhunters to prisons to scout new talent.
Should these firms be in business in the first place?
Here's the Numbers. Call this prick and tell him (nicely) what you think of him.
http://inouye.senate.gov/Home/Home.cfm
Washington D.C.
722 Hart Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-1102
Phone: 202-224-3934
Fax: 202-224-6747
Honolulu
300 Ala Moana Boulevard
Room 7-212
Honolulu, Hawaii 96850-4975
Phone: 808-541-2542
Fax: 808-541-2549
Hilo
101 Aupuni Street, #205
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Phone: 808-935-0844
Fax: 808-961-5163
I sent an email, and left a message for the senator.
IF his concerns are really over enforceability, there has to be a way to 'fix' the amendment without rendering it useless.
I asked the Senator, nicely, to work out a solution to his 'problems' with the bill.
Make sure to mention that you vote with your campaign dollars if you don't reside in Hawaii.
on top of that... I don't think that some of these companies not being able to bid on contracts is necessarily a bad thing. It may even spread the contracts out to more smaller companies and thereby improve the economy.
Inouye no longer wants to be a senator. His choice.
If these contrractors standin the way of justice being served, they deserve to lose their contracts.
I thought Inouye was better than that.
brand new Progressive President in the White House and the Most Progressive Congress EVER.
Hello????
And anyone still questions why we need a third party????
Banging.....head.....on....keyboard......
What did your keyboard ever do to you? :)
It would be nice to think that all employees would flee defense contractors out of justified fear after this, and that no one would ever apply for work again for such companies... But we're not sane creatures, really.
"It will never happen to me. I'll be careful." It ends up with targets having to seek out protectors. It happens in prisons all over. It's a psychological phenomenon. Targets essentially become sex slaves to one guy, to be protected from others.
It's soul-destroying and totally gut-wrenching and I can't for the life of me understand what happened to the moral values... WTF Senator Inouye!!! (and others!!!!) Where's the compassion and kindness that have been associated with Americans in the past? Is it seriously not important to the "ruling politicians" that they protect a corporation's rights over peoples'?? I'm compelled to feel hopeless over this strife.
Really, I seriously can't understand this stand by the politicians...
The desire for food and shelter can work wonders for reluctant employees.
Kinda makes you question the true value about all this 'freedom' people keep saying we have.
... contractors would have to do background checks on employees, and hire competent ethical workers.
Labor contracts can lead to labor contractions.
I don't think you'd want to run a background check when the job requirements include: "must be amoral and willing to kill people for money."
Bad for business.
I am soooo sick of these swine corporations getting whatever they want while we get to pay for it. Eff them in a bad place.
We need to know the names of these "defense contractors" and their lobbyists. We need to publish a list publicly. With pictures of the individuals and executives involved.
The lobbyists might be pushing a shameful cause, but it's the elected ones who bend to their will who should be taking the most heat.
If he cannot stand up to lobbyist trying to defend the indefensible, then he needs to pack his bags and get the hell out.
I don't think these war contractors want women over in Iraq or Afghanistan period. They just won't come right out and say it. By contractors even having a clause that forces its employees into arbitration in civil rights matters, it would seem they kind of knew women would get raped eventually.
Going After!!!!!!!!!!!:
http://kinialohaguy.files.wordpress.com/2009/...
Rape as a job perk.
What's the point of earning several hundred overly well-paid dollars a year if I can rape every now and then. I would feel so empty inside.
At what point, in this country, did our politicians sell out so blatantly in favor of protecting big business, that rape is not consider severe enough a crime to warrant accountability ?
Are these not the very same Republicans who called Clinton getting blown in the oval office, the crime of the century and tried get the POTUS impeached ?
Are there any sane women in this country who continue to support these 17th Century Republican men ? and we fear the Taliban ?
When their actions stopped having consequences at election time.
I thought stripping preceded rape, not what ensued.
Rape is NOT a matter of sex, per se, it is a matter of VIOLENCE.
Actually, they both proceed from the limbic system of the hippocampus, the so-called "lizard brain," as part of the survival system along with fight-or-flight.
So to try to distinguish one from the other is simply polemics, when they actually color each other like ink in water.
The distinguishing characteristic, however, is the pleasure principle, do all parties enjoy it? And until the 20th Century a woman's enjoyment wasn't really a consideration, even in marriage. The counselors of the day would argue that a "good" woman never enjoyed it, and only submitted to her husbands desires, supposedly controlled within him by religious discipline. Some in fact blamed a woman having an orgasm for a child being born a girl, when it was in the man's interest to have mostly boys.
Just not in the republican sense.
in the Republican sense."
heh heh - LMAO
GOOD ONE!!
I was boring myself
Just not in that sense.
Rape is violent CRIME.
What is your problem?
You said in Fri, 10/23/2009 - 10:03 — Alice X - Choms..., rape is NOT a matter of sex, per se, it is a matter of VIOLENCE.
What I was arguing was that it is both.
So I was using the psychological analysis not the legal.
To the victim, and as far as the law is concerned rape is a crime,
But to the perpetrator it could be some dysfunctional form of pleasure.
Rape uses sex as defined by its mechanics, but to facilitate and culminate some perverse desires of the perp. Otherwise it's simple assault and battery, another category under the law.
Psycopathia Sexualis by Richard von Krafft-Ebing goes into some of this model.
(However, I should have phrased my opening sentence, "Actually, sex and violence (not the vague they), both proceed from the limbic system of the hippocampus, the so-called "lizard brain," as part of the survival system along with fight-or-flight." As originally phrased it implies that rape is a natural drive, which it is not. The crime is some deviated admixture of both sex and violence, which is punishable under the law).
Sorry, BZZZZZT! "republican sense" is an oxymoron. Please use "sociopath sense" instead.
A Family Court judge I know has a saying taped to his bench. It says, "It's all about control."
I agree. That would seem to fall into looking for the alpha figure or attempting to become one, which is also part of the reptilian brain, because in some cultures the men stay home and tend to household chores.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li5nMsXg1Lk
I remember when Andrea Dworkin claimed this was pornography:
http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/Im...
That saying about "when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail" comes to my mind. That must be a real nerve-wracking way to live life.
...it's what leads to disgusting phrases like "every man is a potential rapist" being regurgitated on campus.
While that phrase may be useful in reminding women that strange men cannot be trusted, it also says something really awful about all men that is simply not true.
I am a man. I would not, ever, even under coercion, rape another person. I would rather be killed.
If you are a woman, and having a hard time understanding my offense at this phrase, imagine if a 'mens' group were warning men that "all women are potential gold-diggers".
Pretty disgusting eh?
belief that the painting is pornography. I don't see it that way. Perhaps she was wrapped a little too tightly about some things.
Andrea Dworkin was also working with Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority, very anti-feminists, at the time, in an anti-pornography campaign that produced the Meese Report, one of the most unscientific imaginable.
Thanks for posting this! I had no idea.
Just as a matter of fact (because there is so much fiction that passes as fact on the Internet), Andrea Dworkin never worked with Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority. Her understanding of pornography as a civil rights issue for women clashed greatly with the Right. And she was no fan of the Right. They much prefer to entertain ideas about women's bodies being dirty, rather than seeing the harm to be the abuse of women in the pornography industry. She felt that systemic harm was worth noting in law. While the white men on the Right use and abuse prostituted women, consume pornography, rape women, cheat on their wives, and travel overseas to have sex with children, they claim to know and practice "morality". Clearly the Right has shown itself to be utterly incapable of demonstrating "morality" in any sense of the word. Sometimes the Right is nothing but Wrong.
In some cities that supported the ordinance's passage into law--the ordinance that was created by Andrea Dworkin and legal scholar and activist Catharine A. MacKinnon (who helped create sexual harassment law, and who has helped raped women in various countries) some of those city councilors were right-wing, and some were left-wing, and some were moderates. So what? When working at the city council level, as I'm sure you know, you speak with whoever will listen. That doesn't mean she "worked with Falwell". She simply wanted women to be able to sue the men who rape them in the making of pornography. For great clarification of the issues surrounding the ordinance and Dworkin and MacKinnon's perspective on pornography, please read Pornography: the Production and Consumption of Inequality, by Gail Dines, Robert Jensen, and Ann Russo.
For more of her very cogent and critical perspective on the white Right, please read Right-Wing Women by Dworkin.
about statements like that one. It bothers me that a lot of the feminists who use that phrase are not themselves survivors of sexual assault.
On the other hand, I can tell you that in the aftermath of sexual assault, up is down, day is night, and one's views of the opposite sex are turned upside down if you had warm, happy relationships with men. And if you have suffered sexual abuse from an early age, then your view of men will then only worsen. It may not be healthy, and it may not be fair for us to look at men that way, but it's also not our fault.
Also, a great many survivors have multiple perpetrators that range in intimacy from strangers to family members, and a combination thereof. For those people (and I fall into that category), that phrase, ugly though it may be, has some resonance, because in the aftermath, you don't know who to trust. So it is more than a reminder to avoid strangers.
And while I do feel sympathy for men who will never do such things and have to hear such negative views of men as a gender, I also don't feel it's the business of those working against sexual assault to hold the hands of men just to make them feel more comfortable with the truth. If they feel discomfort, perhaps they should try living in the aftermath of rape.
I appreciate your honesty.
... if a lobbyist enters the Supreme Court building to lobby the justices, he gets thrown out on his ear.
But if he dusts himself off and walks back to the Congress buildings, he is greeted with open arms and allowed to ply his trade openly ...
with the lobbyists in a back alley somewhere.
then by Congress people. For starters. K Street has reduced Congress to copy editors.
Who are the sources anyway. Or Multiple Sources.
This is just too wrong.
Sen Inouye's Washington phone is
Washington D.C.
722 Hart Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-1102
Phone: 202-224-3934
Honolulu
300 Ala Moana Boulevard
Room 7-212
Honolulu, Hawaii 96850-4975
Phone: 808-541-2542
Fax: 808-541-2549
I'm in Maine but willing to contribute to any Democrat who runs against him.
everyone has a line and mine just got crossed.
regards - Cherokee Fats
it is time for you to introduce the amendment as a stand-alone bill. There are a couple of advantages: 1) We could find out if the senate majority "leader" has the balls to bring it to the floor (which I doubt); 2) We could find out which senators are willing to go public in favor of rape and the companies that support it.
"Why are you so cynical and apathetic?"
And then I tell them.
For all those wondering who is behind this? It is Halliburton/KBR/Cheney/Blackwater/Xe/Wackenhut, to name the most obvious complainers/bribers. They expect their money's worth, and will make damn sure they get what they want. The Senator is so old, he seems only concerned with leaving his survivors as much money as possible. It's a shame that his life has come to this. Whatever happened to his honor? Bought off by Corporate America, no doubt. When only a few complained about the fixed elections in 2000 and 2004, the greedy thieves dug themselves in. Now, we reap what they have sown. You think it's in your face now? Wait a few minutes.
How in hell a politician get into office on the traditional platform of family values, and still feel pressured into protecting rapist and the corporation that condones it?
That's obviously the point isn't it? The Frivolous lawsuits the Repugs always complain about?
Pretty sick puppy to be trying to protect Rapist!
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 09:32 — Paranoia
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bohKixLt8&fe...
Try to remove this and ya may as well go ahead and retire, 'cause you'll never be elected again.
do you?
It's beyond infuriating. It's immoral, and goes against the good of the population at large.
It gives the go ahead for contractors to skimp on the safety of employees and allows them to keep on problem assholes, because THERE WILL BE NO RECOURSE for victims injured by this.
Inouye should die of shame for this.
they just want to keep things the way they are.
..the value of this amendment, clearly he is not human and if that's the case, he shouldn't be representing real humans. Time to go, creature!
Don't forget to include the fact that the girl was also held against her will so you can add kidnapping to Inouye and the 30 Senate republicans in favor of allowing these illegal acts to be shielded in these so called contracts with private contractors. My God, if the concern is whether defendants would be "overly exposed to lawsuits and at constant risk of having contracts dry up" just how often are employees raped, drugged and kidnapped while serving to defend our country? I seem to recall in Business Law that if provisions of a contract include illegal actions, that the contract was void.
It may have been just some randy (read: hyped up on steroids and methamphetamines -- a really bad mix common among contractor thugs) "fellow-employees" who committed the rape offense. But it was the company officially on the hook for the subsequent kidnapping, and the 'disappearing' of the rape-kit evidence in the case. That's inescapable. Both are very serious crimes.
The big problem is that Paul Bremer deliberately set up a situation in Iraq where the contractors were subject to no legal jurisdiction whatsoever. They weren't on US territory, so American laws didn't apply. They weren't military, so not under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And there was at the time no Iraqi interim government. The Bush administration is clearly on the hook for that one, and the setup itself was a war crime.
Watch Bush's PATHETIC attempt to explain this situation to a first year student. "I don't mean to be dodging the question, although it's kind of convenient in this case."
His promises to look into it were quite obviously another dodge. As I said, PATHETIC!!
... enforced coalition rule 17:
Contractors shall not be subject to Iraqi laws or regulations in matters relating to the terms and conditions of their Contracts...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPA_Order_17
Everyone reading this should call. I called David Vitter's office to voice my disapproval about his vote and his secretary started arguing with me and then hung up on me. Repukes try to use BillO tactics but can never stand up to the truth
..that will tell us who is paying inouye? All their contracts should be voided immediately.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lo...
leave government to form or join Lobbying firms.
As well as their wives, kids, etc. etc.
... just write a bill that bans women from working on defense contracts? That would solve the problem, and he'd get all the credit. Oh wait ...
(sorry for the sarcasm, this issue puts me in a foul mood)
I think some people might be going off half-cocked on this one. I tend to not believe whatever "some sources" has to say about most issues.
I would like to hear this from Inouye before judging that this story is accurate. Who knows ... maybe a few of those lobbying for this are the whisperers.
Obviously no harm in advance warning regarding what reaction will be.
Just saying that a Google News search doesn't show this popping up from multiple sources.
you are a Dem. Your hurry up and wait approach to problem solving is ridiculous. I would like to hear Cheney admit that he is a war criminal and war profiteer, and that he kept his Halliburton stock options when he took office, but that won't happen. You keep waiting. I'll be way down the road trying to correct this evilness.
I agree with telling Senator exactly how you feel about this now, so not suggesting anybody wait to do so.
Just saying I'll not vilify the dude for what he hasn't yet said.
Those people do not have to explain themselves, you know. They are so much above everyone else.
I don't expect him to "explain" himself if he actually strips it either ... but if it's gone from the bill ... we'll know who did it and he deserves condemnation.
as far as opinion of his actions.
Mens rea rarely excuses the actus reus, merely mitigates the negative sanctions.
Innocent until proven guilty is a favorite of mine.
hand-slapping. Impertinent with an faint undertone of no substance.
Now you're just being mean.
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That's the criminal standard not the civil, which would be generally phrased as the court find the defendent liable, which this would fall under with the senator, specifically since he seems to be admitting it.
The phrase is "one is presumed innocent until proven guilty" and given how most rape isn't reported, and most reportings of rapes never achieve getting the rapists to the courtroom, this means that not-innocent people do exist, prior to conviction. I mean the child molester who abuses a hundred kids, who is facing a trial, isn't innocent, if that term has any meaning at all. Nor is any serial rapist not yet caught.
... as soon as he explains it, I am sure you will have moved on to more greener pastures to concern about.
Inouye voted along with only 20 other Senators against the Iraq War Resolution. I'm just hoping this story is wrong and the guy who was sensible then will be so now.
Apparently that makes me a Republican.
...around here it might... (rollingmyeyes)
Good job pointing out the Senator's record.
I really, really hope this is some staffer just 'testing the waters' to see if the Senator can quietly 'bail out' on this amendment.
Not that it would make it ok, but I just want the bill passed. We can fire the Senator at a later date.
it turns out the victims here are not the rape victims, but those poor senators without basic human decency. The gall of the plebe, eh?
Well, since his office is saying he is not doing this and "some guy" says he is, I think taking Inouye's staff at their word on this is pretty reasonable.
They do a lot defense stuff maybe Inouye got a little "extra" from these guys under the table?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=As...
you don't think these cases will settle out of court and then be charged to taxpayers?
This woman needs to be defended by every single person who is offended by her treatment. The Senator has a web site with a contact on it. Get him.
Take out full page adds IF YOU WANT TO BE RAPED DRUGGED Beat up Buggered Imprisoned COME TO WORK FOR DEFENCE CONTRACTORS Brought to you by your Senators and President
Let's be clear about what Franken's amendment (SA 2588) to H.R. 3326 (appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2010) states:
For one, I think ANY clause requiring ANY employee to resolve disputes through arbitration should disqualify a company as a recipient of federal funds - not just clauses that apply to victims of Title VII discrimination.
For two, I think the entire practice of using military contractors to do the work of the military should be brought under greater scrutiny.
It was SecDef Cheney (under Bush 41) who initiated eliminating many fulltime military jobs that were not required during times of peace (for instance Interrogators) with the intent of filling those positions with military contractors during times of war. Volumes have been written about the abuse of this practice - it MUST be brought under control.
I am shocked and amazed! Wait...no I'm not. I'm just pissed.
Actually SecDef Cheney first commissioned a study by Halliburton to determine whether this would be a good idea - eliminating those military positions not required during times of peace, to be filled by contractors during times of war.
Paid Halliburton $5.4 million for the study.
Surprise! Halliburton determined it would be a GREAT idea, saving the American taxpayer millions during times of peace.
(Now .. if we can just get a good long war started ..)
Then a few years later Cheney went to work for Halliburton and, among other things, initiated the purchase of the Bush family's military contract division (Kellogg) and merged it with Halliburton's Brown and Root (of VietNam War Profiteering fame) to form Kellogg, Brown and Root - KBR.
Then Bush and Cheney waltzed into the White House (with a little help from their friends) and the rest is history.
And perhaps treason. The statute of limitations continues to run on these people. Holder is just another place holder. I did not start that as a pun, but it just came into existence on its own. He is there to make real people think they have a prosecutor. They do not have one, or any. Except maybe Andrew Cuomo and Patrick Fitzgerald, who unfortunately is under Holder's control. That leaves Mr. Cuomo. He's up to the job.
.. is simply to prohibit military contracting altogether. It's clearly a practice that is corrupt at its core. The whole intent is
a) to create a responsibility-free zone
(funny how the 'personal responsibility' philosophy of conservatives vanishes where the rubber hits the road, isn't it?)
and
b) to funnel profits to cronies. Which is why most of these contracts are 'no-bid, cost-plus.'
They should really be called out big-time on this. There is not one vestige of either free-market competition or democratic oversight in this scheme. It should be repugnant to all and acceptable to none.
marketing-friendly term for "mercenary."
and I continue to think that...
Perhaps there are valid uses for military contractors.
But I think the military should still cook its own meals, haul its own fuel, train its own interrogators, etc, etc.
And if The American Empire InCorporated can't find enough volunteers to wage its foreign wars, then it will just have to find another way of financing itself.
Imagine not hearing stories of soldiers being electrocuted from faulty wiring, not hearing about sick soldiers from drinking contaminated water and eating spoiled food, having to pay for not using KBR facilities to wash your clothes, etc.
And not having to protect and defend against stupid shit the yahoos from Blackwater stir up like target practice with civilians walking the streets!
Rep. Poe: At Least 3 Other Women Were Sexually Assaulted While Working For KBR In Iraq
KBR Gang Rape Survivor Says 11 More Women Like Her; Justice Department Is a No-Show
Inouye says, "Fuck the USA" ??!
He is saying "Fuck you little, inconsequential people. I want to leave my family with as much money as possible, and I do not care, at all, about any of you. None of us care, and what are you going to do about it?" Or the mercenaries are holding his family members hostage until he fixes this.
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 10:40 — Kastlefeer
Inouye says, "Fuck the USA" ??!
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I always thought that was:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs
Nah, the exploited lament US healthcare and Imperialist war making, Inouye just wants to fuck ...
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So, a few manes collected fraudulently or an office manager willing to commit a crime is bad, baaad, BAD! Punish ACORN!
But hiring contractors that RAP and MURDER is good?
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and I mean a real one, he won the medal of honor during an operation which would make GI Joe look down right tame.
It is a shame for Sen Inouye to tarnish his reputation trying to defend the interests of mercenaries. And all to keep a couple of bucks from whatever lobbyist for those lower than dirt vermin. Sad, really.
"In October 1992, [Hawaii] Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote – the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry."
Link
Are you seeing any news in Hawaii about Inouye considering stripping or watering down the amendment?
Waddya bet Sen. Inouye himself is the source of this whispering campaign?
It's called a trial balloon
So if it bursts like a cheap condom
He can deny it with plausible deniability.
One thing I know for sure, Sen. Franken will not stop fighting for this amendment IF Inouye strips or waters down the amendment.
The following was sent to the Senator this morning:
Based on the news reports there is pressure to remove the Franken Amendment. I hope this is not as offensive as it sounds, but these are terms I know you will understand without question. Removing that provision will keep corporate "comfort girls" acceptable.
The current law blocks all options other than an arbitration loaded against the victims of these rapes. This is too close to that past nightmare, this should pass.
Violence in the workplace is a punishable crime. Rape is a violent crime. Franken, take a page out of Alan Grayson's playbook. Tell the truth. I can hold my employer for "violence in the work place" I see no reason some other company should be exempt from that.
"Get 'em Franken"! This chicken shit Boozedog Democrat needs to be smashed....The Grayson routine is smarter!
I was thinking of him a couple of months ago. He used to be fairly prominent, and since I hadn't seen him on the tube in the last few years, I thought he may have gone to the bit taro patch in the sky.
He was a war hero, lost his arm in Italy, I think it was.
Looks like Inouye has been purchased. Another one bites the dust...
An assumption that he wasn't in the dust to begin with ...... it IS what the establishment is, this is what the US is.
there'd be a very simple solution! Kill the entire appropriations bill unless the the full amendment is retained. Bring EVERY defense contract to a screeching halt and see how long it takes the contractors to change their tune.
Should be ILLEGAL on categorical grounds. These corporations should not be keeping secrets, PERIOD.
KBR is guilty of being an accessory after the fact, and the assholes behind that decision need to spend time in jail.
Unlawful detention. Conspiracy. They hid and probably destroyed evidence. They murder people. WTF is this all about? Should they learn the lesson everyone who watches cop shows knows--kill your victim so you can be sure they never ID you? Their prosecution should have been a given. That we even need to have this conversation is obscene. Feet to the fire time.
They said this was not true and he supports an unmodified Franken bill.
I hope that's true.
PS Thanks for the great contact info.
I won't be able to contain my disgust.
Never mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afi2xeM5ZSI
inserting some potty humor to take my mind off of a shitty subject.
Now if I can just get over how gross that was! :S
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I think y'all are referring to the one I replaced.
America one before ya replaced it. :)
they did this so that CEO could no longer be tried for corporate crime, and this change much of legal punishment to the corporation, and now KBR wants to revoke this law and just punish the employees below the CEO.
If this is how they want to play, then I think this should open up additional charges to the CEO for allowing company policy of rape, and human trafficing, aiding and abetting a criminal.
Ancient Romans used to cut the balls off of rapists
How do you cut the balls off a corporation?
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Hi,
I just called Sen. Inouye's DC office and was told that he had voted FOR this amendment. Do you have an update?
Mary
This IS the update to what you were told by his office. thing is, the word is out he's changed his mind, after lobbyists paid him visits. I checked his website earlier, and saw now denial of these claims, nothing saying it was a horrible rumour.
if it were he that was gang-buggered and then locked in a shipping container, and then denied justice.
Inouye "There was something missing in your anti-rape amendment Al."
Franken "What was that Dan?"
Inouye "Rape!"
The line seems to be that this amendment is "just political." To which I'm sure most of us think, "Say what?" By being such psychopaths for contractor rights, they certainly _make_ it political. Silly Republicans, but I guess they feel they have to stand up for their values.
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It's your turn to ante up now.
Send a REAL MAN to Washington would you?
This guy is a turkey.
Anyone who would strip a bill to protect women from RAPE from her CO WORKERS is too sick to sit in office.
Do your duty and replace him.
From the citation for Daniel K. Inouye's Congressional Medal of Honor:
What the citation fails to note is that Inouye's right arm was amputated- and without the aid of an anesthetic, due to the administration of too much morphine at the aid station.
Look, I agree with the gist of what you're saying here, but I'm sure you can come up with something more appropriate than a challenge to Inouye's manhood.
Why would someone need to sue a company if raped? Did the company rape them? Did the company collaborate in the rape somehow? Is this about justice or money? What happened to this woman was awful but is the company to blame?
I work for a company that employs hundreds of thousands of people. If one of them goes on a rape rampage is the company to blame for the actions of one individual? Should the pay millions of dollars to the rape victim and perhaps deprive me and hundreds of other people of jobs?
It is deplorable what happened to this woman but who's ultimately responsible for it. The INDIVIDUALS who perpetrated the crime. It's easy to side with a rape victim and say they deserve justice but what is justice here?
cover up the crime, and were involved in literally holding her prisoner in a shipping container with armed guards outside to try and stop her from reporting the crime to authorities outside of KBR? Thus attempting to stop her from prosecuting her rapists in criminal court?
"Jones, who was just 19 when she went to Iraq to work for KBR Inc., a Halliburton subsidiary that was fighting oil fires. She alleges that seven male co-workers spiked her drink with a date rape drug, then brutally assaulted her. When she came to, she says, her employer’s response was to lock her in a shipping container without food, water or a bed for at least 24 hours and threaten that if she left the country for medical treatment she would lose her job."
whole article here
Ordinarily I would agree with you...the company a person works for is normally not responsible for the on-your-own-time behaviour of its employees IN THE USA...however, a contractor who is working in another country has a responsibility to all of its workers there to create and maintain a safe environment 24/7, NOT to cover up wrongdoing. Actually, the workers who raped this woman should be subject to the criminal laws of the country in which the act took place...I believe the penalty there is pretty severe, huh?
Can you break a filibuster with 59 votes, didn't think so. What leverage.
And what is justice for her, first, being able to see those who committed this crime brought to justice, then bringing to justice your employer who locked you in a shipping container for 4 days after being raped so you could not make noise about being raped.
Yet another reason why lobbying should be illegal.
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