Vote With Your Feet: Olbermann Calls for Boycott of Businesses Displaying Fox News
By Susie Madrak Tuesday Jun 02, 2009 8:00am
[h/t to Heather.] On Countdown, Keith Olbermann talked about the power of words and why Bill O'Reilly and the Fox News Channel are at least partially responsible for the assassination of Dr. George Tiller. As his guest, he had author Frank Schaeffer, who wrote "Crazy for God" about his years in the religious right.
Yesterday, Schaeffer wrote a heartfelt apology apology at Huffington Post for his part in forming the anti-abortion movement. Keith contrasted his apology with the response by Bill O'Reilly, in which Billo blamed - well, just about everyone but himself and Fox News.
Keith spoke thoughtfully about hate speech and how it influences people, then posed this question:
So, what to do? Viewer boycotts mean little. You are already here. You are not watching Fox News channel. Advertiser boycotts are of limited value, most make barely a dent in a company. Besides which, in this economy, an advertiser who found its sales boosted by association with malaria would start breeding mosquitoes.
If there is a solution, it is perhaps an indirect boycott. It is probably your experience, as it has been mine that stores, bars, restaurants, waiting rooms, often show Fox News on their televisions. Don't write a letter. Don't make a threat. Just get up and explain if they will not change the channel, leave the place and say calmly why it is you are taking your business elsewhere.
If you know a viewer of that channel, show them this tape, or just the tape of the attacks on Dr. Tiller that set the stage for his assassination. Fox News channel will never restrain itself from incitement to murder and terrorism. Not until its profits begin to decline, when its growth stops. So, not so much a boycott here as a quarantine, because this has got to stop.
I'd like to add that I already do this, and it really does have an impact. After all, businesses aren't going to anger the few customers they have left.
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The VA hosptial in Dallas is showing CNN now.
I didn't see any FAUX last time, but I wasn't looking either.
They made me put the tires back on the rims by hand and lowering that
car without the hydraulics was hard on the back.
The latest was my pharmacy. I told them in March that I would move to a different shop if they did not change the channel. They did, to MSNBC.
Since I have to shell out around $400 a month for meds, they listened.
Thank you Keith.
it's true...
i will ask if necessary, but have turned it myself whenever possible...
so satisfying!
They shouldn't be showing CNN either.
They should have fewer TV's in public. Less cable consumption.
as if cnn (or even msnbc) were much better than faux news...
Actually, I agree.
Where are we, Soviet Russia?
They broadcasted propganda non-stop via their media, even on the streets.
Although ours may be considered more anaesthetizing.
..."At least we KNOW it's propaganda!"
Our buddy who's in jail in California awaiting trial would love to vote with his feet. All they get is Fox for news, which means they aren't actually getting any news. Every day-- EVERY day-- we mail him something we print out to counteract that propaganda. It gets passed around the whole section.
Every day.
cruel and unusual treatment?
Well Fox shows more and better looking women than most other major news networks so, I can see why it would go over well in a prison.
It's disturbing to think that prisoners are being titillated by hate spouting blond women.
I can see two problems with that. One, the prisoners will actually listen and go out and commit violence per the instruction of Fox news, or they'll get so sexually pent up by looking at the low grade porn that channel constantly shows that they might go out and commit a sex crime.
It might also make some convicts hate women.
It's a no-win scenario.
It's the breading that keeps the little buggers from floating through the strainer on the deep friar...
LOLLOLLOL!!!! Good one! However, deep "friar"? I never thought of friars as deep.........Of course, being constantly in prayer....maybe.
you can get a business to change the channel - and that alone is worth the effort. But can you get Faux to change their ways? Doubtful.
Faux Gnus is making money hand over fist.
Coining it. Printing it. Wallowing in it. Mebbe other Faux properties aren't doing so well, but the flagship enterprise is cooking along just fine.
They are the sole supplier of 'information' to the approximately 60 MILLION voters who voted against Obama.
With a constituency that large, they are set for life.
60 million people don't watch Fake News so no they are not set for life.
but in sum, probably they do...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK0MUVnHpUU
has to be treated as a domestic terrorist organization. Their media outlets encourage treason, lawbreaking and murder, clearly abusing any 1st amendment protections.
Tell the business you will leave unless they change the channel to Animal Planet.
carefully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKju-x8nnM
I'd rather watch cartoon network.
might also work. that's what makes fox possible anyway- doing the groundwork before the evening news. where would oreilly be w/out talk radio? most of his watchers are probably limbaugh listeners first.
it doesn't take much listening to limbaugh etc to get the phone number of a local sponsor.
many just want their ad on the loudest radio stations and think of limbaugh and co as entertainers. they need to know how important they have been lying us into the bush disaster, as well as enabling the roeders.
I haven't listened to radio in years.
I was driving yesterday and I passed a sign that said "Tune Radio to 1510 AM for Elk info" I didn't turn it on not only because I don't listen to the radio anymore, but how could I possibly understand what the elk were saying?
I imagine that sign was meant for the elks
http://www.elks.org/SharedElksOrg/lodges/imag...
you'll have felt on you antlers
Remember this is about numbers and if the numbers can be increased by supporting Christian Terrorists so be it remember this is SICIALIZED CORPORATE America where nthe only thing that amtters is MONEY.
Local home grown TERRORISTS will be tolerated because of their belief in a book of Fairy Tales and a make believe god all of which allows them to be Christian Terrorist and rake in the money.
Ppsssttt! KO I started my boycott last week, but thanks for the support
Oldretire, If you don't believe in God or the Bible that is your choice but demonizing religion is not the answer here! The right does not own religion and shame on you for giving them that kind of power! I, personally, am a Christian and believe firmly in the Bible. Christianity and the Bible are not the problems here, the people that have bastardized both and hijacked them for their own purposes are! We do ourselves a great disservice when we make such broad comments! All Christians do not belong to the republican party and do not subscribe to the thinking of the Christian right which is neither Christian or right!
...violence in the name of "god" and the extremists in their midst. You, and anybody who calls themselves "Christian" own this as much as the Saudi royal family own the attacks of September 11, 2001. Maybe you have not particiapted in atrocity but neither have I heard a loud voice condemning this sort of behavior from Christians, until after the fact. In the end, it is a superstition that historically has killed far more people than it has saved and that's just a fact.
That is the truth!
I'm gonna use that more in my everyday speech.
you sound a lot like Bush and his minions who have demonized the entire Muslim religioin because of some lunatics that have bastardized that religion as well. Like I said before you have every right night not to believe in religion or the Bible but casting it as a superstition, WOW! This violence in the name of God has been perpetrated by phonies hiding behind religion. Were they true Christians they would not be involved in such behavior. I do take great offense to you placing "ownership" of this with me. I was no more involved with it than yourself. Probably less so since I would have to say that this guy was not a true Christian. The difference between myself and the zealots, and yourself, is I can make a distinction between my personal religious beliefs and public policy. The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Most of the Christians in this country live in a constant state of being offended by something or another. Whether it's being lumped in with your hate mongering leaders or by whom I wish to marry or by the teaching of science in science class. So far, Christianity has killed orders of magnitude more people in the world than it has saved and that is indisputable so you're just going to have to be offended. I've been nice and I've been polite but you and your other "true" Christians have done nothing, zero, to reign in your zealots and demagogues, to my detriment and at the cost of my civil rights and my full participation in our society.
Forgive me if I don't bleed any sympathy for you and your poor, downtrodden existence.
I don't remember saying anything about being downtrodden, but thank you for enlightening me. And which of MY leaders do you speak of? For me, there is only one. All of these crazies that are trotted out in front of the media certainly don't speak for me and they definitely don't represent Christ, they represent the republican party. I would appreciate if you would keep your comments to things that you know about and not tell me what I believe and who I follow. You don't know what you're talking about! From your posts I gather that the civil rights you speak of are related to your being denied marriage rights as a gay person. Am I correct?
Maybe you could compose a piece for your church newsletter advocating equal rights or you could seek to bar members who openly advocate terrorism from entering your church. Maybe you can try to make a difference because I never see any efforts by your leadership to put a stop to the bigotry and hate. Ever. I never see the slightest push to stop exploiting peoples' fear to gain power and dominance over those of us who don't share your superstition. Maybe your taking offense at my comments will be a good thing and do some future good for all of us. I wish you peace.
Who is MY leadership that you keep speaking of? I have a strong feeling that I am just as against the people you keep referring to as you are. I don't mean to fuss with you just communicating. I would imagine that we have more in common than you realize because you can't get past the Christianity thing. Because no one is inviting me on television to discuss my views doesn't mean that I'm not speaking out against these things at every opportunity, cameras just don't follow me when I do it.
By stating without evidence that I "can't get past the Christian thing". This is not true. If you actually read what I have written, you would know that I haven't attacked you. I have attacked your faith but not you for having that faith. I have not called you dogmatic or stupid or any names at all, though several times now, you have suggested that my thinking is inflexible. I have stated that your faith has tolerated hate and violence historically, not that niwrad428 has always tolerated it. You are being defensive where there is no offense except maybe subjectively as I have suggested. In short, while you have hurled accusations and assumptions at me, I have not replied in kind. That is what I mean about fussing with me. I disparage religion and you disparage me. I have bid you peace and now I find this conversation to be pointless.
I keep trying to tell you that the leaders and the actions you keep talking about have nothing to do with me. I don't know you and have no ill feelings towards you. It just becomes frustrating to be told that I "own" things that I have had no part in. That's what I was referring to. I don't disparage you whatsoever. It does seem that when I mentioned being a Christian you did make a few accusations and assumptions of your own. One thing we definitely agree on is the pointlessness of continuing this conversation, which is truly sad!
what you believe in.
You believe in an omnipotent sky god which was an invention of bronze age priests.
Just like the Muslims and Jews; and each of you have a different monopoly on the truth.
All of us non-believers are supposed to tiptoe around your ludicrous fantasies for fear of offending you and your faith.
Faith is believing in something that you ought to know full well isn't true.
I have spent forty-five years of my life carefully respecting peoples' religion but they have as a whole, not respected me or my right to not share their fascination with fortune telling stones and ancient torture/execution devices. All bets are off. THEY started the culture war, I remember when it was announced. Now that they are losing the war THEY started, they are reacting typically by claiming that they are innocent of any culpability in the policies that they never tried to reject. I guess they think so alike that they believe that we will subjugate them when we are in ascendency the same way they have done us. I've always lived by a saying: "Don't start any shit and there won't be any". Well they sure as hell started it but now I'm not supposed to finish it. Right. Hold your breath on that one....
I find it funny that you start your post by saying that nobody is telling me what I believe in and your very next statement tells me what I believe.
I don't remember asking anyone to tiptoe around me or my "fantasies".
Thanks for defining faith for me. I evidently have been wrong about the definition for many years now!
primitive drivel...
I would say in ordinary times I wouldn't have a problem, but these are not ordinary times. Christianity is being used in propaganda, and unless you VOCALLY express your distaste for what is being done in god's name, you are complicit.
There are 1.5 billion Muslims on the planet. A handful of those are extremists. If only the mainstream Muslims could reign them in... Same goes for Christians.
These are not ordinary times. You are embroiled in 2 1/2 wars, and Christians that object have a duty to speak up. If not, I see you as part of the problem. Relgious people tend not to listen to the irreligious, or dismiss them as godless and inferior.
Speak up at you church. Spread the word. Stay out of politics.
[Edit: Scoot up to Nicole's just-posted story, Christianist Group's Billboard Compares Atheism To Murderto see what I'm talking about. Will you say something????]
...religion killed this weekend. A recruit fresh out of bootcamp was killed in front of a recruitment station by a muslim fundie as well. Two murders in twenty-four hours all in the name of god.
and NOT believing in God isn't a superstition or a cult either?
It's called FAITH, and honestly most non-believers that I've encountered on the web dont understand even the basics, such as the difference between atheism and agnosthicism.
Also, most don't understand that "Evangelical Christians" are PROTESTANTS...not Catholics.
And believe me...Protestants consider those folks crazies as well. I date the daughter of a Protestant minister. We've had this discussion ALOT.
You don't believe in God...that's fine. But don't tell me that my belief is wrong.
My belief has just as much legitimacy and PROOF as yours does.
As for religion being the sole reason for killing over the course of history...wrong. Also, most of that killing was over POLITICS...such as land and resource grabs, women, etc. The same reasons used by democracies today.
Sometimes folks with such a rabid dislike of religion really scare me! Most of them that I talk to really don't know much about it and I think that's what scares them. It almost seems like many republicans' fear of what they don't know or understand!
Scoot up to Nicole's just-posted story, Christianist Group's Billboard Compares Atheism To Murder to see what I'm talking about. Will you say something????
Since I can't prove that leprachauns and pookas don't exist,
therefore leprachauns and pookas exist!
Thanks for clearing that up for me but I gotta go look for a pot of gold now.
but the damn leprachaun guarding it was watching FOX.
for a second I thought we were gonna have an intelligent courteous conversation.
By the way...were you there at the Big Bang? Did you actually visit Pangia?
Oh...and did you ever see a living dinosaur? The skeletons were built by humans...and humans didn't have the blueprints. Oh...and just how accurate is carbon dating? Ever actually seen a REAL atom? How do you know the electron microscope isnt' just some pseudo science peep show created to justify a theory?
See...two can play that game.
Oh...and I believe in evolution, science, etc...and there is a whole school of thought that can meld science AND religion.
Your first and last statements pretty much sums it up. Neither religion or science are the only answer, but the two have worked together.
Mick, I wouldn't begin to tell you what you should or shouldn't believe in, that's completely up to you. I do see, however, that you're not actually looking to talk about the subject, but to hurl insults so we'll just have to agree to disagree and I won't respond to your posts any further. That was useful, huh?
I've forgotten more about religion than 99% of the people I've met have ever taken the time to get to know and that includes Christianity. You are guilty of stereotyping. The atheists, agnostics and anti-theists didn't start this, the religious people did.
After reading enough of your posts on this thread alone, i've taken it upon my self to present to you the official Keith Olbermann Douche-bag of the Week award...
For your complete and total snobbery regarding the topics you so passionately discussed in this thread, and the way in which you throw around accusations and paint with giant broad brushes regarding the acts of religion and christianity as a whole, lumping together complete strangers into giant cesspools of guilt, that im sure you possess none of.
Thank you for being a shining example of what not to do. Have a nice, judgmental, life.
What about the Pope? Can't really say that he's a Protestant can you? You can't really say he's an abberation either. The guy was a Nazi so he fits right in with the Catholic Church.
I've forgotten more about religion than 99% of the people
Oh...so you're inability to remember facts makes you an expert? Interesting.
You are guilty of stereotyping.
I am? I don't recall saying ALL. However you lump all religions and persons of faith into one barrel.
What about the Pope?
What about him? He's anti abortion, but he hasn't issued any proclamations in favor of violence.
Can't really say that he's a Protestant can you? No. Did I?
You can't really say he's an abberation either. The guy was a Nazi so he fits right in with the Catholic Church.
Oh. How does Nazism fit in with the Catholic Church. Enlighten me.
My gosh, we are touchy, aren't we? Yes, I've forgotten a whole lot about religion, especially the stuff that was shoehorned in all unwilling as I was being taught to loathe myself at St. Francis Cabrini elementary school. And glad to be rid of it too. If I was as dogmatic and inflexible as I've been accused of lately, I would still be a Catholic and I would still be required to loathe myself. No thanks.
had taken some lithium, we'd have fewer problems today! ;)
you're inability to form your own personality or to have the self assurance to survive your Catholic "indoctrination" isn't a fault of the church.
You sound guilty about having to have stepped away. You shouldn't be.
Oh...and by the way...if you really want to get into the whole Catholicism thing...most Catholic Americans are ala carte Catholics anyway.
;o)
We all know about A&P Catholics. LOL.
If I followed the letter of the law...I'd never get laid.
Oh...and for the record. Catholic schools throughout my school years...from grade school through college. Ursuline nuns, Marist Brothers and....JESUITS!...but...I managed to pull through.
...have to do with a supposed inability to remember facts? "Facts", being the operative word...
Copernicus, Darwin, Crick and Watson. Give them a whirl.
In fact, not having a belief in superstition is just that..... not having a belief in superstition.
This is not opposite day. You can make something mean the exact reverse of what it actually means.
For example. I don't have a belief in magical beings that live in the clouds. I find the idea absolutely idiotic. I have found NO proof that such a thing is even remotely possible.
That does not mean that I'm superstitious. Only an utter moron would think that it does mean that.
Here is the webster's dictionary definition of superstition:
1 a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary.
See? Even the dictionary implies that superstition is stupid.
the missed point is that faith is not superstition.
You equate both as being synonymous...that is my point.
You don't "get" religion" and that's fine.
from merriam-webster online:
Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: \ˈfāth\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
Date: 13th century
1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction ; especially : a system of religious beliefs (the Protestant faith)
synonyms see belief
— on faith : without question (took everything he said on faith)
without a solid basis of proven, tested, and reproducable facts, faith alone, by it's very definition, cannot lend any legitimacy to, or prove any theory or doctrine.
thus, when you say, "My belief has just as much legitimacy and PROOF as yours does.", the amount of "legitimacy and PROOF" you both end up with, being based on faith alone, is exactly zero.
Don't mess with the lady scientist!
Margaret drops the hammer.
said what he did.
billo will spin it and say that MSNBC is afraid of him and trying to take away his free speech rights.
Of course Keith isn't, but when has billo failed to NOT play the victim card when given the opportunity?
I went to a movie the other day and ya know how they play commerical before the movie starts. One of the commercials was fro Glen BEck. I boo'd, other's joined in.
If I went to a movie more than once a year, I would have said something to the management.
Went to see the new Star Trek movie on Memorial Day, which was so fun and enjoyable (being an old Trekkie) and probably saw the same commercial touting a "comedy" show. We laughed loudly talking about what an asshole Glenn Beck is and how there was no way he could be funny - we don't hold back anymore.
yes that was the commercial
They played Beck???
That's one reason I don't like going to the big chain theaters....like Wehrenberg or AMC here in St. Louis....I first don't normally care for the big budget movies, and I also don't care for the commercials before the movies.
I see a lot of movies, and 99% of the time I go to see Independent and Foreign movies at Landmark Theatres in St. Louis (yes, they are a chain across the country....but I've never seen commercials before movies, except for perhaps Stella Artois beer and the HDNet channel, plus movie previews)....
But, still, Beck????? I would boo and probably boycott that theater for a very long time, until they stopped the Beck commercials!
I unfortunately saw Beck late last night....first time in awhile....he was going on about Obama's health care plan and how bad it would be if the government ran health care....I sent him an email asking about the problems right now with insurance companies running health care.
Beck makes me sick!
we live in Henderson, NV (Las Vegas metro), we don't have anything but big movie chain theaters. Oh, and virtually all of them are in casinos. We have to wait until they come out in video or we go to a cool town to visit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5qx3fuTUHM
but i don't watch faux news now. i can't imagine who places ads there.
FN has a large segment of the Erectile Dysfunction-remedy ad business.
That's funny!
Say what you want about Fox... they attract a huge viewing audience. In the end, no matter what reason people are tuning in for, that's what businesses care about. End of story.
I wrote Verizon telling them I was canceling service after the Glenn Beck fiasco started up and there was a boycott list going around with all his advertisers. Got a letter back that was so badly written and completely unconcerned with what I was writing about that I just had to laugh as I crumpled it up and threw it away.
Money, profit, greed. That is IT. Go fuck yourself if you want anything else from us.
I don't know of any way I can avoid FOX anymore than I already do. I don't watch anything FOX, (News or otherwise), patronize any businesses that have FOX on or buy products I know to be advertized on FOX. I was hoping that Olbermann had come up with something that I hadn't thought of yet.
The urology clinic at Wilford Hall has CNN on so I'm not even subjected to it at work.
..to tell businesses to stop showing Fox News. Cable and Satellite companies should be urged to drop it from their packages as well.
to support Faux News. I have no choice. If I could unsubscribe to Fox, I would. If I could choose to subscribe to the channels I want to watch, Fox would not be among them. We need Congress to write a bill that gives consumers free choice. I do not want a menu choices, say of "News" and if I want the news channels, again, be forced to subscribe to Fox. I want to be able to pick and choose what channels I pay for and support with my hard earned dollar. I also do not watch sports and I resent having to pay for those channels.
breaded mosquitoes. Are they any good?
used to make patties out of mosquito eggs. Apparently you can still get them up around Lake Patzcuro.
Kind of like gefilte fish, I imagine.
He is starting to annoy me just as much as Rush Ladumbass. Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion does not mean they need to be silenced, just agree to disagree and leave it at that. When fox news had Bush as their reason for reporting anything they tried to cast a dark shadow on MSNBC but id didn't agree with that, because they had no right to silence MSNBC with their nonsense rethoric. Thank god I stop listening to the mainstream news they sound like propaganda T.V in third world nations, not worth about a danm. Plus we no longer have journalist we have actors who are able to read teleprompters and do as they are told.
have helpers who can punctuate. Damned annoying, that.
We need more of Keith...don't forget a few years ago Progressives had nothing on television.
BTW, O'Reilly is in fact an accessory to murder. Your comparisons are total bullshit.
Fox is a disinformation channel. People who oppose playing Fox channel in public are not talking about taking away Fox's freedom of speech. They are talking about taking away some of the accidental exposure of innocent bystanders to Fox Disinformation. There is a big difference.
remember seeing Olberman call anyone a baby killer and talk about getting his hands on someone. O'Reilly's a thug and simultaneously a pussy, he should not only be silenced, but perhaps sent to a gulag.
Sounds like something a concern troll would say.
NIce try, Keith, but a little unrealistic...Should I check out of my room at the Marriott because some moron in the gym decides he wants to watch Fox news while he's on the treadmill?
take his room key, and clean out his mini fridge. I'd also suggest ordering all the pay for view porn for his room, but, hey, it's a Mariott.
Get on a nearby treadmill and ask if he has any problem with you changing the channel - then change it to the BBC if possible.
At least triple his speed while you distract him.
OK, I like ricky's solution better.......
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want to watch Fox? Unless you speak up, you will continue to be one of the sheep to be fleeced.
flocked I always say.
I think what Olbermann is talking about are businesses who tune their TVs to Faux: tire shop and mechanics waiting rooms, bars and restaurants, etc...
Then to Curtinlingus in the middle.
Most shops I have been to in the last 10 years take about 1/2 an hour to get my car into the bay.
You should take a look at the TV before you start talking to the person working the counter.
Before I make a decision to patronize the place and I have for years. Took me forever to find an auto shop that kept it on something else. I always bring a book so I don't watch their TV but the point is that I don't want to give any of my money to wingers of any degree and passive wingers are still wingers.
that had educational shows on. Then I realized it was an auto repair show and the mechanics were taking notes.
Yes, I make all my shopping decisions based on television.
And will snap at you if you ask to change stations. They think it's real news.
Simple
prefers working out with muscleheads, obviously.
Muscleheads are at virtually every gym. I attend various gyms around Chicago depending where I'm working that day. Along with MTV and ESPN, Fox seems to be a standard gym station.
But really I've done much better on my own treadmill with SOLE possesion of the remote control. :D
its no wonder you won't work out in public.
And sadly, too true....
I waved, but you probably didn't recognize my car with the tires falling off.
Couldn't tell cause of my hair in my eyes.
is total bulltweed.
The Nazis awarded medals to mothers who were prize breeders.
http://www.astrocollection.com/main.php?g2_it...
be given a special medal?
It's annoying as hell to be force fed this propaganda when frequenting establishments.
They don't have to play MSNBC either....but they definitely don't need to feed me this horse shit fantasy crap from fox.
I'm going to do it! Hope a few million other patrons do as well. Maybe they'll get the picture....or lose it.
I think it's going to take a much more direct approach to shut BOR up.
In a civilized and humanistically responsible society, one would not have to use a rather dull and unimaginative spin-off -- a refusal to consume -- from a rather recent and disposable economic system to effect social policy. Enlightened and adult societies would use the face of the social contract that we call laws to deter the fringe and potentially disruptive if not deadly voices of some of our fellow primates from wreaking havoc. Nothing new here. However, the important point is that the airwaves and the associated licenses to access those airwaves are owned and controlled by the citizenry and they have the right to demand that their legislative representatives squash those who would use those airwaves to foment hatred and violence by removing their license. That is, the citizenry should not be sucked into playing by the corporatist slime's rules -- a.k.a., advertiser revenues, ratings and all those other profiteers' metrics. Takes a bit of balls and lots of energy on the part of the teeming unwashed but to do otherwise is a likely doomed to failure. It's got no legs.
Oh, and before I forget . . . . . fuck you, Dick Cheney.
I went in for a haircut one day and they had tuned the television to FAUX "News". I asked my regular hairdresser why and she said that the new manager liked FAUX so I complained to her. Then I complained to the owner. Then I found a new salon. I hated leaving the place after so long and having such a great working relationship with them but I'm not going to plant my ass in a chair for two and a half hours a month to watch FAUX "News". Olbermann isn't suggesting that this will be easy or painless, things that are worth doing almost never are but these hate merchants have to lose money by continuing to spout hate. That's the only thing they understand because they sure as hell have no concept of responsible behavior.
Olbermann who works with PatBuchanan?
Yes, sure, I'll take his call for a boycott seriously.
instead of ESPN. If they won't switch to sports from Fux, time to leave.
Geez what a hipocrit! Bill O going after rappers for supposedly violent lyrics- meanwhile he and Fox News have their loyal viewers sitting their waiting for a "revolution" on a nightly basis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE
I STILL want my MTV!
The real one, not the fake they got now.
Mindless government music to placate the masses.
I wrote a song called "Don't Wanna Be (like MTV) and my band Side Effects (in Phoenix) performed and recorded it. Sent a copy to MTV. Never got acknowledged. Wonder why? I still have the (cassette) master somewhere...
Love to hear it MaryK. Been in several original bands myself and I still don't have the early stuff in digital yet.
MTV was the worst thing to ever happen to music.
Fortunately, they made themselves irrelevant.
play with the Jetzons? I was in Phoenix in the early 80s and the music scene was truly profound. One of my favorite possessions is a painting that a friend of my created of Michael Corte (lead singer of Billy Clone and the Same - precursor of The Jetzons). I'd like to hear it too.
OK Now what? The braindead in those offices park the channel in the am, and once the room fills up, good luck changing it.
In Michigan, TVs in government offices are used to run tapes pertaining to the services provided at the particular office.
My barbers always watch soaps, which kinda cracks me up. Old guys, oldschool shop...You'd think they'd have something like ESPN on, but it's Days of Our Lives.
My barbers have stacks of magazines strewn all around like Guns and Ammo and Soldier of Fortune, play Country and Western in the background, and still use straight razors.
bloodwork when the lines at the VA are too long?
in this country?
I thought they'd all been taken over by Supercuts.
Three of my barbers at different shops have retired.
They're the only one I've found that will trim my shoulders.
In the 'burbs. My guys are located in the middle of the city, though, and they've got a lot of students and urban professionals in the customer base. Plus, the neighborhood they're located in has seen a large influx of Honduran and Guatemalan immigrants over the last 15 years...Guess what I'm saying is that the customers aren't into the same stuff as your neighbors in Texas.
the Mexicans beat up the Honduran and Guatemalan immigrants.
...you're here in Texas. It's how guys get done.
that last sentence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xuugq7fito
this is all my fault. I watch Olbermann online every week night, but last week I got so tired of the bouncing Rush head, I wrote MSNBC a letter begging Keith to give up the juvenile mocking voices and other embarrassing descents into sixth grade behavior, and get back to putting out a commentary show that adults could watch. I was really surprised to see that last night he seemed to have heard me. Of course I'm kidding, but this horrible murder seems to have put things back into perspective for Keith and I applaud him for understanding this. What I admire about KO is that he really seems to be decent, thoughtful, and well-versed in history. He's self-deprecating enough to admit he makes mistakes, unlike numerous pundits, politicians and commentators on both sides of the aisle. It's refreshing to have someone like that out there. It's been painful to see him devolving lately into just another cog in the bickering back and forth with his ridiculous vendetta against Rush and the embarrassing mocking voices which only prove to his detractors that he's nothing more than a lefty version of Glenn Beck. He has the ability to rise above that, and he really did that with last night's commentary. I don't want him to lose the humorous edge, but I'm looking forward to a more reasoned and adult Countdown.
that the bouncing jiggleing Rush is not a pretty sight but I got a kick out of it
with all the girl celeb news. At least he still had the monkees and robots in the middle.
I'm surprised at how many barber shops have it on and how often customers get caught up in the tabloid sensationalism. It's the only time I ever see their garbage and it will be the last if they don't turn to a new station, at least while I'm there.
Thank God for Keith Olbermann, one of the rare voices that has spoken up to challenge some of O'Reilly's hate speech, vile attacks on people's personal opinions, and his stalking of innocent people who disagree with him for any reason. As well as being a sexual harasser, O'Reilly I believe has a terrorist mentality; you can see the rage all over his face and sheer madness in his eyes, especially when he gets off on one of his hate rants. He thinks EVERYONE should conduct their lives according to his twisted dictates. I believe this man is as potentially dangerous as the mad man who shot the Dr. in Kansas and I hope somebody will do something about him before he causes more death and destruction. I should add that the new guy Ed Schultz on MSNBC and also Rachel Maddow are too others who give hope to some semblance of balance and sanity in the media.
Bill O'Reilly is no longer a joke. He is dangerous, and promoting his station, his very image...even through comedy...only legitimizes him and increases curiousity about him.
He is a zero. He should be treated as a zero.
several times in the past.
I only had to explain once why I refused to give them my business if they didn't stop showing faux noise. And they just grinned, shrugged their shoulders, and turned the channel.
The other times, they were like, "thank god, I hate that channel"
It's that easy folks.
My husband and I are looking for a new car (we're lucky, both of us still have good jobs). I drug him to our local mall and he walked into the Findlay Group's showroom at the mall. A salesman walked up to him and said, "Can I help you?" My husband happened to notice that they were playing Fox News on their television in their showroom and said, "No, I don't buy cars from companies that have Fox News playing on their television." He turned around and left. Pity really, but
we will continue to use that as a qualifier for purchasing our auto, but maybe we'll let them run our credit first so they can see exactly what they missed.
Just to see the look on that guy's face immediately after he said that, and during the next 20 minutes, would be a site to behold.
face while being handed his pink slip while FOX commentators in the background call bail out of the auto industry a socialist plot by Obamacrats.
as he comes to the realization that this whole bail-out clean up is the direct result of 28 years of Reaganomics.
Just as we were warned ... we have arrived America! Put that on your face.
(Lucky for us Europeans ... we're a lot smarter and we saw through the farce.)
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