Walter Shapiro Yells At Those Blogger Kids To Get The Hell Off His Lawn

Longtime political reporter Walter Shapiro thinks it's time for another bloggers ethics panel. Because those horrible, horrible bloggers are posting erroneous stories just to beat the news cycle! (Bad, bad bloggers!)
Choosing bluster over blushing, Breitbart told Matt Lewis in a Politics Daily interview: "I couldn't wait to get this story. I knew from past experience that I had a news cycle to get this out." Later in the interview, Breitbart underscored his cavalier publish-or-perish approach to fact-checking: "It had to be done at the exact moment in time that the press would notice it." A new report by the Project for Excellence in Journalism details how the Sherrod charade migrated from conservative blogs taking their cues from Breitbart to Fox News and then to CNN.
Breitbart is just a symbol of a larger problem that transcends the poison-pen politics of ideological warriors (of both the right and left) and the slippery ethics of the blogosphere. We have collectively blundered into a P.T. Barnum media age when being first trumps being accurate. The economic rewards of the Internet flow to those who win the search-engine wars by being fast and furious rather than to those laggards who wait to be accurate and comprehensive. It is as if the motto of today's journalism has become: "He who dies with the most clicks wins."
Every second, we are mentally assaulted by hyperbolic cable TV "breaking news" alerts, data bursts and Twitter trivia. Meaning and context disappear amid the bite-sized news nuggets. In the world of politics, every new poll, TV ad and opposition-research press release is treated as a game changer on par with Newt Gingrich handing down the Contract With America from Mount Sinai. If everything is equally important, then simultaneously everything is equally unimportant.
I have to wonder: Did Walter Shapiro simply sleep through the Whitewater "scandal" that was freshly fueled every single day by the New York Times? Yeah, I get his point. I think the news cycle does drive inaccuracy. But bloggers didn't invent this "go-go" news mentality, they only learned to take advantage of it. Even the voracious cable networks didn't invent it - they only sped it up.
Clutching your pearls and pointing to "ideological warriors" isn't going to solve the problem. (I mean, you're pointing to Newt's Contract On America as a "game changer" when it was really a bunch of meaningless blather. What made it a "game changer" was the relentless repetition by the Beltway bobbleheads. They kept talking about it as if it were meaningful, and so people began to take it seriously.)
But the biggest factor is that the corporations that own and direct news organizations care only about the bottom line. It's to their benefit to hype news as much as possible. That gets more viewers, more viewers means higher ratings, and higher ratings mean more lucrative ad sales.
As much as I can't stand this amoral man, Andrew Breitbart isn't the problem. He's only a con man who's learned how to game this sick corporate culture. If the news business weren't so eager to chase every ad dollar (remember, once upon a time, network news operated at a loss and was considered to be a public service) and to curry favor with corporate conservatives, they wouldn't be so eager to bite at every juicy fabrication tossed their way by the likes of Breitbart.
Fox News? They're in a category by themselves. They jump at everything and don't care all that much if it's accurate -- just as long as it makes Democrats look bad. After all, that's why they exist.
Oh, and Walter? As a rule of thumb, liberal bloggers aren't the ones with the "slippery ethics." If you weren't using that lazy "he said, she said" tactic and throwing false equivalence into a story to appear "fair," you'd know that liberal bloggers, perhaps even more than the corporate journalists, actually try to get the facts straight. (Even though most of us aren't getting a paycheck to do so.) We don't manufacture stories out of whole cloth, nor do we knowingly twist and distort facts. (*cough* Judy Miller *cough*)
That's because the corporate news media has much higher standards for vetting anything liberals tell them. When a conservative blogger plants a "factual" smear, all he or she has to do to get it out there and then whine that the biased "liberal media" won't pick up their story! (See "New Black Panthers".)
Meanwhile, liberal bloggers get attacked simply for having opinions and sharing them with each other -- even though we are opinion writers. (See the difference?)
If you were doing your job, you wouldn't need me to tell you that. You'd already know. Instead, you sound like Grandpa Simpson, yelling at those damned blogger kids to get the hell off your lawn.


I would say cable news dun did it, particularly faux with their 24/7 news cycles,
Bloggers have to take their afternoon naps and Cheetos breaks...
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I've found some especially perfect for this topic. From the movie Network back in 1976. They could be (hell they ARE) talking about our own time.
Howard Beale is losing ratings for his news network so they fire him. Then he declares he'll kill himself live on his last show. Network management has a fit, until they see the ratings for his "Angry Prophet" routines... imagine Bill O'Reilly, only sane.
First Beale rants about American society's dependence on TV for information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew
Popularity became influence became power. Howard Beale then made the mistake of upsetting his corporate masters. You see, his network was being overtaken by a company called CCA, which was taking huge investments from the Saudis at a time when the Arabs were raising oil prices. Mr. Beale urges his viewers to telegram the White House, nixing the CCA deal. Mr. Beale is promptly called in for an ass chewing by CCA's owner, Arthur Jensen. It is here we learn who has real power in America. This is Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner rolled into one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6nILzDiEo
We're still at the mercy of these people. The mere 400 families in the US who own over a trillion dollars in wealth. They, like Arthur Jensen, believe themselves to be modern day Gods among men. Money is what they worship. Always has, always will be.
And here I thought it was about acrobats...
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Walter Shapiro should study the organizations and people who got us into these disastrous wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Those are the people in the media and in power that need to be criticized.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Seems he should look in the mirror. Wouldn't it be an important duty of the MSM to correct erroneous reports like this instead of frantically trying to get out in front of them?
(and government doesn't verify)..you get lies about weapons of mass destruction that lead to illegal undeclared war that kills millions...
...and when you trust bloggers, (and government doesn't verify)
...you get people like Sherrod fired.
1st Q: (which is worse?)
2nd Q; (what is the "common denominator")
Answer to both questions is... :(governments that don't verify)
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People who will grasp at anything just because they don't like Obama.
Comparing "millions killed" to someone who was fired and then offered her job back? Talk about false comparisons.
If vilsack held off would you accuse Obama of obstruction and cover-up?
Why don't you just admit it blew up in a teabagger's face, and now they're trying to save face?
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Milquetoast admit anything? Bwahahahahaha!
"the comparison" I was trying to make was actually between Bloggers, and Mainstream media, and was a dig at Shapiro who works for mainstream...(as well as a dig at the present and previous adminstrations)
(but you missed it) ...I forgive you.
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We all know from your postings you're one of the teabaggers, so what you think your point is is regardless, even when it misses the mark entirely. Your apparent purpose is to vindicate breitbart, who admittedly was trying to clear the teabaggers of their racism by first targeting ACORN through james o'keefe, and then by targeting shirley sherrod, and in both cases it blew up in his face, but he immediately tries to about face, and your attempting to aid him in that.
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...but I will defend his right to speak. (even if it's in "incomplete sentences")
If your stupid (and don't fact check his lame ass) ...then it's your problem, (not a blogger problem).
besides... Obama is the one who trusted Andrew Breitbart...(not me)
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That's you're not yours.
You hate breitbart, but defend him and his views, because you agree with his objectives to vindicate teabaggers by heaping calumny upon all and sundry to argue a tu quoque, even when it totally backfires.
Have you ever worked in the corporate world? Firings are rarely higher than the immediate manager of the department. The Washington bureaucracy has thousands of employees. Something might be said in passing, but it's not like every janitor fired or switchboard operator on suspension is brought to the CEO's attention.
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is you've lost the thread here, just like everywhere else. Take a course in 'Reading for Comprehension.'
I find it hilarious you are speaking of the lack of verification in others.
As for your assertion that the previous admin didn't verify--They knew there were no WMD. There was nothing for them to verify.
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When you have a right-wing sponsored media meme that the right wing government doesn't verify because they SPONSORED the meme, you get weapons of mass destruction lies.
When you have a right-wing blogger sending sponsored memes that a "left"-wing government doesn't verify because of the race card, you get Sherrod.
Which is worse and what is the common denominator?
Right wing everything is the antithesis of everything civil.
Operation Mockingbird in full effect.
People have been trying to control the media since the beginning of last century.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCdXLpXmlj8
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - former CIA Director William Colby
"There's really five companies that control 90 percent of what we read, see and hear." - Ted Turner founder of CNN
Mass Media Breeds Mass Deception.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
1. "those who win the search-engine wars by being fast and furious rather than to those laggards who wait to be accurate and comprehensive"
was preceded by:
2. "the poison-pen politics of ideological warriors (of both the right and left) and the slippery ethics of the blogosphere."
Perhaps, Walt, you might apply your admonishment to "wait to be accurate and comprehensive" and give us some examples of the left engaging in the same 'poison pen slippery ethics' the right delights in, before publishing your nonsense?
Ah, who am I kidding, you won't apply shit to shinola.
You'll just prattle on with your false equivalences, and never really get past the tired, overly played out and inaccurate 'balance' where the truth is held in equal measure with any lies the right might spew.
Two sides to every story, who cares if the one side is an absolute, easily refuted lie?
Right?
Except that Breitbart knew he was committing libel and slander, he also knew that the victim would have a good opportunity to sue him but he *hopes* that the victim will, that way the unamerican theofascist traitor can proclaim himself to be a right wing Christanic martyr.
I have to wonder: Did Walter Shapiro simply sleep through the Whitewater "scandal" that was freshly fueled every single day by the New York Times?
Oh, this goes back FAR longer than that. Hell, back in the 40's, you had reporters racing to the phones to get their stories in before the other guy. Much like the harrumphing of print journalists when TV news began to capture everyone's attention back in the 50's (it's all personality based! it'll kill our attention spans!), this is just more whining on the part of "traditional" media about those damn kids on the lawn again. Old fogey stuff.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Mommy! It's not MY fault I spilled grape juice on your new rug. It's YOUR fault for giving me grape juice in the first place!
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
"When a conservative blogger plants a "factual" smear, all he or she has to do to get it out there and then whine that the biased "liberal media" won't pick up their story! (See "New Black Panthers".)"
Can we call it 'showing the black feather'?
In the original post, Susie, you said: "the biggest factor is that the corporations that own and direct news organizations care only about the bottom line."
AMEN!
And that's why, here at The H.O.R.N., we no longer call them the "mainstream media," "MSM" or any such thing. We call it what it is: the ForProfitMedia.
Facts don't matter. Accuracy doesn't matter. Objectivity doesn't matter. To the multi-billion dollar business that is the 24-hour news cycle only one thing matters: Profit.
It's about maintaining the oligarchy, which they do through strict adherence to a center-right, Democrat vs. Republican narrative. The corporate media follow certain rules in this narrative - e.g., only *objective journalists* are allowed to represent the *left* and ultra-conservative Democrats are always referred to as *moderates* - and of course they don't like web outlets because they break those rules.
to grab this guy by the collar and make him respond to the obvious failures of "professional" journalism?
I learned more from DailyKos about the lies leading up to the invasion of Iraq than I did from any of the print or broadcast media.
We the people, will find a way to stay on top.
This is America folks.
And all we have to do is continue to think,
but to begin to vote, and encourage people to vote.
One way or another, America is going to become a country of voters. ;)
I may as well be a voter. You may as well be a voter too.
Way to go daily Kos.
An individual that does not vote shall eventually be legislated against.
An individual that does vote shall eventually be legislated for.
If you don't vote, you are letting the rest of us down.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
...if it would've "been better if the internet was ever invented"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY
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...out of context.
Is that you, Breitbart?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
...and internet terrorism.
(are the two big reasons gov't and media want to censor and control the internet)
(yes) it is "out of context" but this is how "our" elected officials feel about the internet. ...and it should scare you along the same lines as Shapiro does.
I'm not a fan of Breitbart. I just don't want to see internet censorship because of (him)
...and Shapiro is leaning towards censorship
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Rockefeller was talking about hackers fucking with the DoD's database, not bloggers being critical of the DoD.
Christ, talk to your psychiatrist- I'm sure he can give you some samples of something to treat your paranoid delusions.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
...I was merely pointing out that the internet is under assault.
...from more than one side.
Shapiro and Rockefeller (and anyone else in favor of control or censorship) can all go to hell.
(the internet must remain free!)
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Hacking into someone else's computer is illegal. It's cyber B&E, git.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
the internet must remain free!
What's going on here?
Is Milquetoast pretending to be reasonable?
Are you an in and out sort of troll Milquetoast? :)
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
and interpreting the data contained within, data like the date of an article, the concept of greater than/less than, you know the easy shit.
Don't go expecting him to understand complex, multi-faceted conceptual shit.
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/dance-tax-cu...
me-oww!
The internet is under greater threat by the whole internet neutraility issue, and soon will likely replace television for your favorite reruns, but at the expense of smaller operations that tend to be liberal blogsites like this one.
Like our politicians, TV networks and radio stations it will be for those who can pony up the cash.
It was already under threat with NSA datasweeps under bush.
And it was breitbart showing a total contempt for tradtional journalistic practices which caused this ill-advised spleen-venting by walter shapiro.
So if we lose the internet, it will be largely due to corporate interests and sleaze-meisters like breitbart.
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Carnivore and Echelon are still humming away, they never stopped.
Nice to enjoy your work...
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It makes fascists wonder anyway....
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
If a liberal blogger puts something out there that is blatantly untrue his or her fellow liberal bloggers will call him or her out in a heartbeat. I think the left takes pride in getting it right before getting it out.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
that Shapiro somehow missed... I wonder how?
surely he wasn't being fast and furious with this umpteenth article about how the monolithic blogosphere is teh bad, was he?
Sometimes I do that to the point of being a pain in the ass. To be fair though, I can't point to very many cases, if any, where the blogger being criticized knew they were putting out something untrue. In most such cases it's a lack of specialized knowledge that leads them astray. Personally I find Huffpo a little hard to take. They are a veritable greenhouse for anti-scientific woo.
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In the primary wars of 2007-2008, many liberal bloggers became targets of other liberal bloggers for pointing out smears against Hillary Clinton. (See Eric Boehlert's "Bloggers on the Bus.")
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
Charles Foster Kane: You're right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars *next* year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I'll have to close this place in... 60 years.
something to think about the next time you see all those unsold magazines at barnes and noble; if you own the forest, the papermill, the chemical company, and the printing press, you don't ever have to make a profit.
don't be too sure the proletarian porn is produced in order to chase ad dollars.
Got caught up in this fad, with their constant "updates" of the "Terra/danger/color coded fear du jour" nonsense.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
And that was purely for political motives.
They were Tea Baggers even back then.
Irresponsible. Now we all know. That's what the Republicans are.
Everything else comes out of that.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
"As a rule of thumb, liberal bloggers aren't the ones with the "slippery ethics." If you weren't using that lazy "he said, she said" tactic and throwing false equivalence into a story to appear "fair," you'd know that liberal bloggers, perhaps even more than the corporate journalists, actually try to get the facts straight."
Well obviously Walter couldn't be bothered to check pesky little things like facts in his rush to get this story published before someone else did it.
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