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So this is what had the Wikileaks founder so jumpy. No wonder the government wanted to keep this under wraps:

A huge cache of secret US military files today provides a devastating portrait of the failing war in Afghanistan, revealing how coalition forces have killed hundreds of civilians in unreported incidents, Taliban attacks have soared and Nato commanders fear neighbouring Pakistan and Iran are fuelling the insurgency.

The disclosures come from more than 90,000 records of incidents and intelligence reports about the conflict obtained by the whistleblowers' website Wikileaks in one of the biggest leaks in US military history. The files, which were made available to the Guardian, the New York Timesand the German weekly Der Spiegel, give a blow-by-blow account of the fighting over the last six years, which has so far cost the lives of more than 320 British and over 1,000 US troops.

Their publication comes amid mounting concern that Barack Obama's "surge" strategy is failing and as coalition troops hunt for two US navy sailors captured by the Taliban south of Kabul on Friday.

From Steve Hynd over at Newshoggers:

The newspapers admit they kept some secrets too sensitive for publication buried and the details in the document dump seem to be of the kind well known already to wonks who have followed Afghanistan reporting over the years, but the manner and volume of the War Log's release will doubtless crystallize the opinions of many who were only casual readers of news from the West's occupation there. With public opinion against that occupation running at some 60% in the U.S. and over 70% in the UK and Germany, these leaks will put further pressure on Western governments to find an exit sooner rather than later.

Among the stories on which new light has been shed:

-- Pakistan and to a far lesser extent Iran have been offering funding and other direct aid to Taliban groups for years. Pakistan's ISI is reported to have been behind many Taliban targeting decisions, including on U.S. and coalition troops, despite it being an ostensible ally.

-- The U.S. has been using an undisclosed "black" unit of special forces, Task Force 373, to hunt down targets for death or detention without trial. This team has been responsible for the deaths of Afghan policemen and civilians, including children but authorities seem to have been more concerned with keeping its operations secret than curtailing its zeal.

-- There have been over 50 incidents of "Green on Green" fire - where Afghan police or soldiers opened fire on their fellow uniformed countrymen, many begun by drug use, corruption or indiscipline.

-- There are reports of hundreds of border clashes between Pakistani troops and their Afghan or American opposite numbers - far more than previously reported.

-- The 140 reports of incidents involving the shooting and blowing up of civilians by Coalition troops reveal a casual disregard for human life, including "nearly 100 occasions by jumpy troops at checkpoints, near bases or on convoys...'warning shots' often seem to cause death or injury, generally ascribed to ricochets."

The reason why governments don't want us to see war too closely is that they see how little point there is to the whole bloody mess. Why are we still there? Why are we destroying all these lives?

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Liberal AND Proud's picture

America can't lose. INSTITUTE THE DRAFT!!


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Why are we still there? Why are we destroying all these lives?

Because we are looking for Sadam's weapons of mass destruction. A tip said the Taliban was hiding them.

Why are we still there? Why are we destroying all these lives?

We need to blow up our weapons before they are past their expiry dates.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

Three words: Caspian Sea oil.

Hey...I'm a REAL American, so my question is...where the fuck is that?

We're fightin' the turrrists!


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Amitola's picture

other mineral deposits.

Basically, our troops are there fighting to ensure BP's profits (as well as other multi-national corps).

Greed is Good. Greed for wealth and power is what drives the governments of the globe as well as the corpora-fascists and banksters who own them.


"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

CentGas, but who knows who will get the contracts if and when things ever settle down there. Probably International Oil, Gas & Opium (IOGO).

ohkay's picture

Notice that the first sentence in the AP story says that the Pentagon is trying to assess the damage this leak caused.

Many honorable people have been trying to assess the damage caused by the Afghanistan war on America's reputation and economy. But we are blocked from knowing the truth by too many state secrets, and by a mismanaged government war plan, and by a compliant, embedded media that can't be bothered to find out the truth for itself or act on our behalf. Curious how bad news and inconvenient truth always seem to be the first things classified.

Why are we permanently intrenched in the Middle East? The truth no one will speak -- we're hooked. We need to occupy these countries and control the region at all costs, which means throwing money at the war effort and the warlords hand-over-fist -- while our own country goes down the tubes. We need that oil, period. We have killed and will kill hundreds of thousands of people to get that oil. Our government and media will make up and repeat a hundred false justifications before they will admit it.

MountainMan23's picture

The Guardian credits both the NY Times and Der Speigel for their participation in this story but it's clear The Guardian took the lead.

Here's the backstory - how The Guardian got the story:

Afghanistan war logs: Story behind biggest leak in intelligence history

Here's the story behind the Black Ops, the US Death Squads:

Afghanistan war logs: Task Force 373 – special forces hunting top Taliban

And this is the link you want to all the Guardian-WikiLeaks articles:

Afghanistan - The War Logs


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The U.S. has been using an undisclosed "black" unit of special forces, Task Force 373, to hunt down targets for death or detention without trial.

Looks like the Phoenix Program has been revived. Now who says being in Afghanistan is nothing like Vietnam, eh? I understand the Obama administration is very unhappy with this latest release of information courtesy of Wikileaks. No wonder.


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

is feeling good about their Peace Prize right about now.

Hell, they didn't lose any sleep when they gave one to Kissinger, did they?


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

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derekthered's picture

the proper care and feeding of mushrooms, what you do is,

#1 - feed them shit
#2 - keep them in the dark

9/11 family member was hoping THEY would have? ("9/11: Press For Truth".

... a la "Pentagon Papers."


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

SadButTrue's picture

The nature of the media has changed so much since the Watergate era - has BEEN changed, DELIBERATELY is more like. There is a huge difference between the way this story would have been reported by Walter Cronkite or Huntley/Brinkley and the way it will be reported by the reight-wing likes of Wolf Blitzer or John King, let alone Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck and that lot.

The big spin on this story will be how unpatriotic, even treasonous are those who let this cat out of the bag. Never mind that they're not even Americans so those epithets don't apply. The public will be whipped into an outraged frenzy at the audacity, the Republicans will gain votes by beating the war drum even harder, the Democrats will be smeared for any rational reaction (though lamentably most will react exactly as the Republicans do) and it will turn out as a net political gain for fascism and the M.I.C. Just watch.


"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."

The government has nothing to worry about. The leaked papers require more than a 5th grade reading level.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

ixnay's picture

Hell, some of the responses here have already started that whole meme of anti-patriotic accusations and painting the administration as the real victims here.

We're a nation of degenerates.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

moraltrumpslegal's picture

"Why are we destroying all these lives?"

Because the "we" that you've decided to be a piece of are a bunch of murderers. It's good to see you take responsibility for your part in it.

MountainMan23's picture

So what?

"Our" government can't keep its own secrets.

What does this say about "our" government's ability to "keep us safe"?

Anyone?


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Evet's picture

John Kerry: 'Serious Questions About The Reality Of America's Policy'

(Never mind this guy has done nothing but support the whole mess)

ixnay's picture

... keeping us safe could be considered a good thing, and keeping secrets in a democracy I would think is a bad thing.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Evet's picture

only about 200 times worse. I'll be surprised if this story lasts through today as the next Hollywood b00bette reveals the secrets of her new look.

Cool. Maybe Stallone will come out of retirement and do "Son of Rambo".


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Evet's picture

good distraction. The White House Spin team needs to instruct the media to cover soccer.

gogetem's picture

How about Obama going on "The View" in a couple of days?


If a drone kills a child in Kandahar, do the crying parents make a sound?

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EOM

Evet's picture

curious import this morning. "Mel Gibson Loses Support Abroad."

Oh my god the end of the world has arrived.

Alex Rodriguez was hit with a baseball yesterday.


Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.

Evet's picture

. . . so freaking "gone".

And we didn't even get high this time around.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

MountainMan23's picture
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Oh I'm certain the troops are finding all sorts of creative ways to destroy all that Afghani hash and opium ..


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Rise Up!
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yeah..fine...what about US!!


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

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(Reuters) - At least 45 civilians, many women and children, were killed in a rocket attack by the NATO-led foreign force in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province last week, a spokesman for the Afghan government said on Monday.

The incident happened in Helmand's Sangin district on Friday when civilians crammed into a mud-built house to flee fighting between NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) troops and Taliban insurgents, Siyamak Herawi told Reuters.

Reports of civilian deaths and casualties caused by foreign troops are a major cause of friction between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his Western backers and often lead to street demonstrations.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66P35Y2...

Ex-Canuck's picture

Best way to end any war is to make the children of the wealthy and the politicians HAVE to participate in the killing and slaughter. Also, increase taxes on the corporations who are making money off of the deaths that wars cause - and make them pay those taxes.

Of course, these things will never happen, as our politicians are in the pockets of the war mongers. And besides, some of our politicians like to kill brown people for religious reasons.

Evet's picture

they can keep this going on forever.

MountainMan23's picture
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I just recently discovered the Confederate Conscription Act of 1862 exempted anyone who owned 10 or more slaves.

"Rich Man's War, Poor Man's Fight"


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surfjac's picture

..is to not fight it at all. Sun-tsu


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

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But according to Republicans these are just historical documents.

TOO LATE!

MountainMan23's picture

Members of Congress can and do invest in corporations which they themselves oversee, and have even been known to have staffers in their offices whose job it is to trade the very stocks that their legislation will affect BEFORE the general public even knows the legislation has passed.

Should Congress members be required to put their investments in a blind trust, just like members of the Executive branch?


Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!

"...investments in...."

perhaps members of Congress should be required to 'soldier up' and in put on the uniform/have arms slapped in their hands and be dropped right into the fray.....

I know, that will happen as soon as their kids will be 'soldiered up' etc... or as soon as the DOJ goes after the Bush Administration for lying the country into war..letting 9/11 happen...etc.etc..

sorry, I just keep hoping some lame brain in DC finally 'gets it'.

I think the Democrats have put their spines in a blind trust.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

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War is Peace…

Doncha know…


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

MountainMan23's picture
yup

More War!

More Peace!

We'll ALL be safer then!


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Rise Up!
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Ignorance is strength apparently.

The Orwellian ante is upped given that this current administration campaigned on, among other things, increasing "transparency." Add that to the long list of terms which changed meaning in the transition from the electoral campaign into the presidency.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

So what makes the US Admin think it is going to be any different this time around?

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

The purpose of our army is not to win.

The purpose of our army is to keep profits safe…


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

"The purpose of our army is to keep profits safe..."

Now THAT'S a bumper sticker....billboard sign if I ever saw one!

surfjac's picture

..the promise was to get obl not nation-build. w didn't want to nation-build. Well, he lied now didn't he? he and his administration committed war crimes; have they been arrested or called to answer for their crimes at the Hague? NO. Are we an occupying force in two Muslim countries further enflaming tensions between our cultures? You bet. Do we have a successful exit strategy? NO (I know, some think they do but they don't). Basically, what do you think when you hear some jack-ass on the right ask if you miss w yet? I think, why haven't we put that sob in jail yet? Well, so much for my feelings about the current administration.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

sixandseveneights's picture

...looks like another corner turned.

derekthered's picture

move along, move along,
some of us rail against "bloody barack" on a regular basis, it is like talking to the wind, how can you trust these people about anything?
the government covers up whatever they want, they lie, they cheat, this is the nature of the system, and liberal politics will never, ever, stop it.
face it, obama, bushco, they are all war criminals, and all this without a declaration of war, nothing.

we do need to realize that by withdrawing from afpak we will be leaving an islamic hellhole for the people who live there, but is that our fault? yes it is, because we stuck our fingers in this mess back during carters reign
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Repub...
i know how it was sold in the press, more lies.

iraq, iran, and afghanistan all had secular regimes, at one time, but our CIA overthrew them because they were socialist. why would we do that? because socialism is an evil ideology? or because marxism is a threat to capitalist profits?

another fine mess. i really don't show it much, but the "progressive" bullshit i see on this site is just that, bullshit.
you cannot trust the repubs or the dems, at all, they serve the overlords, both parties. health care reform? please, financial reform? what a riot. "free speech zones", "synthetic financial instruments" we are lost as a nation.

no, lets keep agonizing about "brown people", who are in our country illegally, being profiled, while our "peace prize" president gives the order to blow brown people around the world to fucking smithereens. jesus fucking christ, it takes this wikileaks crapola for this site to put up a link about the war, because it is the trendy news story, and people like me, who call you out on it, you will probably delete my comment, have at it.

time to fucking grow up, get real, and pull head out of arse; this is what our country does, and if you want all the other stuff that you regularly complain about to stop, you have to stop this first.
once again with feeling, quit cutting any of these people a break, let the goddamn repubs win if that is what the country wants, but you DO NOT support any president that does this shit, and that is exactly what "bloody barack" does, he is in it up to his eyeballs.

have at it, i am used to getting beat on, being red is nothing new to me, i have had gutless "liberals" pissed at me for forty years for pointing out how friggin high school their politics are; this is the real world baby, people get friggin killed all the time, remember that next time you say how "right" idiots like paul krugman are.

and be safe, is somehow destroying morale or not supporting them, or some other right-wing meme. Whereas wanting them to stay there, killing civilians and covering it up, is laudable or something.

Samson-'s picture

i salute thee

Geronimo.'s picture

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Samson-'s picture

is the vampire

PinkyLeftBrain's picture

The problem as I see it is that Obama inherited two things from the Bushies: 1) The wars and 2) the turd polishing that the Bushists were doing behind the scenes to make the war seem 'less intrusive' into the minds of the lulled public.

The public hasn't had to sacrifice anything for this war. No coupons, no rationing, no tax increases, no war bonds. The Bushist war on the world could almost be called an 'un-war war'. No wonder every Tom, Dick and Hairy knuckle dragger found it so easy to blindlessly support the war and buoy the president/idiot George Walker Bush.

They saw no bodies. They saw no blood. They saw 'golly-wow' things like missiles and bombs and big explosions. You know, fun redneck stuff... Almost as much fun as blowing up frogs with firecrackers and exposing CIA agents...

Obama is stuck now with the shit bag that is burning at his doorstep.

One question: Could these leaks be a ploy by the GOP to show how badly Obama has conducted the war and hope that the notoriously short attention span of the 'general public' forgets that it was they (and the blue dogs) who created this shit hole mess?

Now with the turd polish wearing off, this is going to bite Obama in the ass hard. Shit that idiot Steele has already put the idea into the minds of the idiots that this is 'Obama's war of choice™'.


The problem with American politics right now is Republican extremism, and if you’re not willing to say that, you’re helping make that problem worse.

ixnay's picture

you make it sound as if Obama was forced at gun point to be president.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

JerryO's picture

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Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power.

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power.

...and all Back To School supplies are now half off at your nearest Walmart.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Rich H's picture

Let's increase our forces, prolong the war, and spend another trillion or so dollars on this. Why it makes perfect sense.

surfjac's picture

..that trillion more we spend will guarantee our great grandchildren will never realize a deficit free America! Way to go neo-cons, mission accomplished.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Rich H's picture

Hmm.

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Samson-'s picture

i can't decide if it is brilliant for jullian to be all over the news or dumb--in regards to his own personal safety

be in hiding. Just look at the recent C&L topic, suicides, accidents, happen all the time.

ixnay's picture

... tells a lot about who we are as a country.

We're the freest country on earth, the most compassionate too. Except if you make us look bad, in which case we make the Mafia look tame in comparison when it comes to deal with snitches.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

..of the war criminals should've followed through on their promise of getting obl when they had him in their sights and then come home so as not to enflame the Arab world by being an invading and occupying force now, are you? Had we done that, how would the benefactors of the MIC have gotten wealthier off of taxpayer money and borrowed funds that our great-grandchildren will be paying off? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that you would deny the MIC untold wealth.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

As Assange is saying, this is about war crimes. Civilian casualties are not "unavoidable", as the MSM is trying to paint them.

They are the murder of innocent men, women and children who never posed a threat to anyone. Innocent children murdered by NATO and US troops.

Innocent children cut down in cold blood by missiles fired by faceless cowards from thousands of miles away. Missiles that we pay for.

Innocent children murdered in their beds, in their homes, in their neighborhoods. Imagine that happening to YOUR children.

NEVER forget that.


The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith

David762's picture

ten new freedom fighters (NewSpeak=="terrorists") will spring up to avenge their deaths. We are talking about tribal societies, whether it is Pakistan, or Afghanistan, or Iraq. If you think that our military brass and the alphabet intelligence agencies don't understand that, then you are delusional. It's all about war -- perpetual, unending war !! Welcome to 1984, people ...

For the MICC, it's about budgets and war profiteering. For the DoD, it's about getting "your ticket punched" and promotions. And for the alphabet intelligence agencies, it's about empire, and to a lessor extent budgets and war profiteering, but mostly empire.


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy

mujinronsha's picture

these documents date from the BushCo regime. And if they were released then they would have gotten intel sources, American and other, killed.

But since the leakers waited till We, The Progressive Community, got Barack elected president, the risk is virtually nil. Besides, the speech to the Muslim world from Cairo sealed the deal, healed all the old wounds.

It is just one more accomplishment we can ALL be proud of.

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CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

and of course the government (WH, Obomba) is angry, because we can't have the taxpayers knowing the truth of the disaster, even though many of us reached that conclusion a long time ago. Is Obomba going to be Nixon's third term? (as well as Bush's).

DamOTclese's picture

What? Christanic terrorism? That's a first.

Alien_Overlord's picture

what a newsflash - did you knew that there are civilian casualties during wars, and weapons don't always hit their target, planes sometimes crash and intelligence is not always as good AS WE WISH.

Did you knew that in foreign countries they have MORE than ONE political party thus more than one political interest.

I just CAN'T WAIT for wikileaks to leak the Taliban documents on their MASS MURDERS of CIVILIANS on marketplaces or just random streets.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

taliban attrocities are covered very, very well

mass murderers.

Alien_Overlord's picture
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you're over-thinking it - don't you'll overheat.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

ixnay's picture

... I don't think I have ever seen so much projection at such concentrated level. Than in that single line response.

Congrats, I guess...


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Do you write just to hear yourself(so to speak).
What am i projecting and what are you congratulating me about ?


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

with that post.

Even more projection! I don't think it was possible, but thanks for proving me wrong.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Fine DON'T answer me.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Rich H's picture

Whoops, I guess I shouldn't do that.

Alien_Overlord's picture
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I HOPE you don't ERASE what you wrote - just like LAST TIME.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Did you also knew that BLUFFING is a CRUCIAL war tactic to MINIMIZE troops casualties.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

so... let me sort this out as you see it. all of the secret documents recently published were purposefully given to wikileaks, knowing that they would be leaked? and why? because they are all lies, designed to confuse and distract the enemy?

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Nope, is just that there is NOTHING NEWSWORTHY in them - but hey the media ALWAYS welcomes drama, even if it SETS BACK the hard work of our troops.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

consider me impressed that you were able to sort through the 90,000 + documents this morning to come to that conclusion

you are a VERY fast reader. consider yourself blessed.

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Whatever, when you show me something that is ACTUALLY a BAD practice then you can wake me up.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

no, no, no please keep sleeping

let others worry about the current $7.5 billion the US is giving in aid to pakistan.

and let others worry that some of that money will be funneled to the ISI.

and let others worry that the ISI, in its dealings with the taliban, helps fund and equip the taliban.

and let others worry what happens to the coalition forces who are targeted by the taliban.

but, please, keep sleeping... i'd hate to disturb your needed rest.

Alien_Overlord's picture
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This is something something I wrote a YEAR ago, 1 week before miss Clinton "b1tchslap the Pakistani":

Osama bin Laden and Pervez Musharraf in bed together

by Alien_Overlord

Imagine this - Osama bin Laden(economics and business administration graduate) and Pervez Musharraf(life long expert in "bleeding USA for even MORE money") having a business deal. Osama "releases a tape from time to time" and Musharraf let the USA use his country as a "shooting range". Or more like "we gonna do the shooting, you(USA) will pay to watch" ! It's all one big scheme - Osama creates fear and virtual destabilization of the region, Musharraf extorts the money and then they "split the booty". And if somebody wants a detailed info on where their money goes Musharraf does his "faked outrage act" and says "STOP micro managing, we got this - you just keep sending us more money". All this while probably Osama have shaved his beard and got a decent haircut, and releasing his "platinum singles" from oh let say - the Bahamas.

In all this chaos, Dick Cheney tries to "make an extra buck" for himself. All the "WAR contracting consortium" chip in for Dick if they want him to speak on their behalf. Because everybody knows - the more troops go to war, the more "contracts" there are to serve those troops. And who cares about the dead troops and their families - not Dick Cheney that's for sure.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Rich H's picture

year ago?

Alien_Overlord's picture
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You again ... didn't i dealt w/ you once already.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Rich H's picture

but why bother.

Samson-'s picture

so...

when you wrote about this important story it was, well, news. but, now that more evidence is available exposing a deeper relationship btwn ISI and the taliban it is not news?

seems inconsistent and just weird.

is it that the exposed documents also highlight atrocities done to civilians that has you so upset?

Alien_Overlord's picture
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It WAS NEWs back when miss Clinton talked about it.

P.S. Just like you I don't like the war, but I don't kid myself that we have a choice in this war(Taliban in Afghanistan) in particular. And don't tell me not finishing it is a choice - it's a suicide.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

and it still is. its still on going, and we are still providing 'aid' to pakistan.

to your 'ps': what is winning? or, as you put it, what is "finishing" the war?

Alien_Overlord's picture
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For you I guess it is.

what is winning - getting Bin Laden and his second in command.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Samson-'s picture

that OBL is in afg

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Don't for one second think that previous wars cost LESS.

It's just that they didn't HIT us as hard, because back in the day there wasn't such a thing as "tax cut for the rich", economy that revolves around USURY, "wall-street GONE wild", companies who FIRE 20,000 workers for the benefit of the "shareholders" so they can "outsource" that work and turn 20,000 workers into 5,000 even less paid (Indian or Chinese)workers.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

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Or you can leak ALL of the pentagon documents - you MIGHT find something inappropriate, but AT WHAT COST ? IF you gonna really leak something IT better be NEWSWORTHY !


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Pzzzzzzzt. Call me unimpressed. We're paying all those bucks for stuff like this late and sloppy shilling ? I want my taxes back!


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

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"Alexander spent more time conquering Afghanistan than he did Persia, and with less to show for it: not only did Afghanistan offer no comparable symbolic and strategic victory, but constant revolts undermined whatever glory he could claim for his defeat of Spitamenes, his primary Afghan foe." Alexander in Afghanistan

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
Santayana

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Didn't know we were in war with Afghanistan. AFAIK Taliban are the dumbest of the Afghani.

It's Al Qaeda who provide them(Taliban) with intelligent tactics - it's the only reason the Taliban keep Al Qaeda around. And who trained them ? the Republicans('cause communists can't stand other communists), so if this is gonna be somebody's war then it's Charlie Wilson's war


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

Alien_Overlord's picture
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A story "how allies have been bled by many small cuts", well "thanks to Julian Assange the allies have been bled by a SINGLE GUSH".


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

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