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Can they get much crazier than this? Yes they can! Every day brings another new high on the wacky scale, as rightwingers continue to sound the alarm about our new National Socialist president:

Parents across the country are rebelling against plans by President Barack Obama to speak directly to their children through the classrooms of the nation's public schools without their presence, participation and approval.

The plans announced by Obama also have been cited as raising the specter of the Civilian National Security Force, to which he's referred several times since his election campaign began, but never fully explained.

"He's recruiting his civilian army. His 'Hitler' youth brigade," wrote one participant in a forum at Free Republic.

"I am not going to compare President Obama to Hitler. We'll leave that to others and you can form your own opinions about them and their analogies. … However, we can learn a lot from the spread of propaganda in Europe that led to Hitler's power. A key ingredient in that spread of propaganda was through the youth," wrote a blogger at the AmericanElephant.com blog, where the subject of the day was a national "Keep-Your-Child-at-Home-Day."

"Totalitarian regimes around the world have sought to spread their propaganda and entrench their power by brainwashing the children. I guess it's easier to indoctrinate a six-year-old instead of fighting a 26-year-old or being challenged by a 46-year-old in the voting booth," the blogger wrote.

At issue was an announcement that Obama plans to deliver a message directly to students via the Internet into public school classrooms across the nation on Sept. 8.

According to announcement posted on ServiceWire.org, Obama will address students "about the importance of persisting and succeeding in school" at 1 p.m. Eastern at the WhiteHouse.gov website.

See, that right there? That proves it! Because if children actually pay attention, learn to read and write and apply critical thinking skills, they're actually a lot less likely to read fine publications like World Nut Daily - except when they're mining them for comedy gold like this.

The announcement said the federal Department of Education "is encouraging educators, students and parents to use this opportunity to help students get focused and begin the school year strong."

The government also is publicizing a list of suggestions for students and teachers to do in preparation for the speech, including studying Barack Obama's writings and presidency.

Obama had announced the speech during a child reporter's visiting the White House.

During the interview, Obama said, "On September 8, when young people around the country are … will have just started or are about to go back to school, I'm going to be making a big speech to young people all across the country…"

But opposition is assembling quickly, similar to the concerns expressed on the AmericanElephant blog:

"Now the former community organizer and current president of the United States is making an unprecedented speech to the school children of our nation. I'd like to believe his motives were pure and politics didn't play into this. But viewing this administration's track record doesn’t afford such benefit of the doubt.

"When the president browbeats property owners who want to protect their legal rights… when the president admits he doesn't know the facts but impugns the integrity of a police force… when the president calls me a liar for reporting what is actually in the health care bills and encourages my neighbors to report me to some enemies list… when the president apologizes to nations around the world and bows to a Saudi king… he loses the benefit of the doubt," the blogger wrote.

"Without benefit of the doubt, the president doesn't get to speak to my children unchallenged," the writer said.

Whereas starting a war based on fake information and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians - and letting an entire city of American brown people die - well, that inspires blind devotion, right? Which pretty much lets us know where these folks are coming from.

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Rich in San Bruno's picture

What's wrong with these people???

Where were they when Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice were destroying our Constitution and lied us into the war in Iraq? Over 4,000 of our troops died while their cronies with no-bid contracts were stealing us blind? Where were these people???

Evet's picture

and waving flags on a stick.

Floridiot's picture

My head hurts from the disconnect

chris-notthetroll's picture

Capitalism won't work without Communist China.

Floridiot's picture

the Totalitarian part of it anywho

Can O Whoopass's picture

Republican wingnuts should be made to pay us real Americans reparations for their support of Bush and their silence about his Homeland Security, his Patriot Act, his several wars, silencing opposition, Katrina, etc.

Then they should be deported to an island where they can practice fascism to their hearts content and bow and grovel to their Fuhrer.

Paul's picture

Chimpy was reading My Pet Goat? Oh, that's right, I forgot...If a GOPer does something it's not only right, it's heroic. Silly me.

chicano2nd's picture

read that "us."

How can one nation have some many dumb-fucks.

Tyler Durden's picture

to start shutting up these idiots.

Talk about runaway projection...

Hechicera's picture

right out of my mouth. Godwin's Law really need to work for all non-internet arguments as well!

lafingas's picture

like the boy who cried wolf, use it too much and it becomes meaningless!

Pete2069's picture

Then what was Bush doing in school with those kids,, with that monkey look on his face , while and after 911 was happening in september of 2001....
The biggest terror attack on our country on any president's watch..
Especially after he was warn about some type of attach and he arrogantly laugh it off..


None

chervilant's picture

and look at how they reframed that event in order to assert that Bush was 'keeping us safe'!

These are scary times, indeed.

Just sayin'...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Evet's picture

Obama headed back out on vacation Wednesday

I admit Bush winning in 2000 and 2004 fucked me up, but come the hell on!

Handypants's picture

I think they are as crazy as they can get and they get more crazy by the day.

How much longer will anybody take them seriously?


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Evet's picture

Carter that should be enough of a clue.

The righ-wing stole both elections...

Evet's picture

and the Dems let them.

kaylaspop's picture

I remember the last time a US President read to schoolchildren in Florida, do you?


It's not all or nothing.

fastfeat's picture

"No bin Laden Family Member Left Behind"...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

FloydGeorge104's picture

The mutherfucker "did not win" in 2000. he was appointed. 2004, they did the same thing, just in another state.
These fuckers are all fucktards RACIST.

They should say this bollocks in Germany, they would have there arse arrested before they could say Nazi!


Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/

I don't give a toss.

Can O Whoopass's picture

Why do you think the 'birthers' hammered Obama over a birth certificate?
Because he was an illegal alien? Nope.

Because they want to run Arnold Reaganegger in 2012 and since he was born in Graz, Austria, the son of a petty Nazi Policeman Arnold can never be President.

If the wingnuts can convince enough people that Obama was not qualified then they can change the law to let Arnold Reaganegger run for President and we can have another 8 years of tax cuts for rich, greedy yuppies and a few more wars to feed their hedonism.

lafingas's picture

Stupid is as stupid does! Yes, they are total loons and it will get a lot more crazy before 2010.

MF17TN's picture

but to have a President start a faith based initiative and use all our tax dollars but then turn around and give 99% of it only to Evangalical church based groups,so that that the young head of the office, who is also evangalical, quits out of dillusionment with the program, because even he felt it held more promise...now that's OK and not trying to indoctrinate anybody as to whose faith is more rightious. I see nothing wrong with the President telling my boy to work hard and focus. I just worry my boy may start chanting Obama! Obama! in a deeply Red state.

zogtheobvious's picture

First off, I fully support our President, even as I become angrier over the Public Option debacle. I genuinely believe he wants to help out and make some sort of healthcare reform. I roll my eyes and foam at the mouth every time he says the Public Option isn't set in stone, but I do think his heart is in the right place.

That being said, I'd like to point out that every single one of you reading this, including the folks behind CnL would be going absolutely bugshit if it were Bush wanting to speak directly to our kids in our classrooms. (I would be too... the man has done more damage to this country than I ever thought possible.) I personally have no issues with Obama speaking in my daughter's classroom (she's 8) but if I did, you damn well better believe I would demand my say, as well as the right of refusal. And while it never went mainstream, the Hitler comparisons flew with Bush as well. I'm not defending it, mind you- I think what Fox News is doing is dangerous, irresponsible, and if violence, civil war, or an assassination breaks out, I'll be the first one screaming for accountability.

I just wanted to point that out. We would be demanding the right to have a say if it were Bush, and I don't blame the saner Republicans out there for wanting the same.

MF17TN's picture

If Bush talked about trying harder at school I would have no problem. What is so crazy is the talk of recruitment for Obama's secret army and such. Even Neil Bortz had to tell his crazy listeners that they need to wait and see what the President says, that he may do some good. He even had to tell one caller to get People magazine and watch Entertainment Tonight every night and stop speaking about "Obama Care" because he is only hurting the discussion.

Liberalicious's picture

Bush was reading "My Pet Goat" to children on that fateful day of 9/11. Was anyone complaining that he did that? No. Only that the scared shitless a-hole just sat there ad did nothing. Could not even be bothered to lead. I do not remember any controversy about him speaking in schools. So, unless you got examples from here, I suggest you stop making shit up.

fiver's picture

:)


Corruption favors the wealthy.

Liberalicious's picture

The amount of cross trans-Intrernet telepathy that goes on.
;)

zogtheobvious's picture

"would be going absolutely bugshit if it were Bush wanting to speak directly"

Can you spot the key word here?

"If."

It's not "making shit up" .... IF... I am speaking hypothetically.

But I AM touched that you think of me as a sweetheart.

Liberalicious's picture

They do that sort of thing at Fox news too.

And they don't recognize sarcasm either.

Dumbass.

zogtheobvious's picture
Wow

I've totally rubbed you the wrong way, haven't I? What's your problem? Too much coffee?

Look, I've been posting here for awhile... I haven't been hanging around here since CnL started, but I feel I have some valid and relevant points to make, and all I'm saying is that I shouldn't be accused of making shit up if I am speaking hypothetically.

And the sarcasm thing? If you're referring to my comment about being touched that you think I'm a sweetheart... uh, SARCASM, pal. Maybe you're the one who should be submitting a resume to Fox. Can't spot sarcasm... resorts to belittling and namecalling.. yup! You've got Fox written all over you.

Reply if you like, I'm done with this thread.

Liberalicious's picture

Because, whiny little toads as yourself, oh sorry, did i hurt your fweelings, have no business here.

Welcome to ignore, you piece of crap.

Can O Whoopass's picture

I don't remember a public debate from the BushCo clowns about anything and I believe Obama should quit the Townhall debates immediately and get his programs initiated.

FloydGeorge104's picture

a repug, stop making shit up. shit, thats there way of life.

Hechicera's picture

As long as I knew what had been said, and I could ask my kids. I want my kids to be exposed to ideas, and to think and weight them. They will both be eligible to vote in the next election, so this will come in handy.

When did we start teaching our children to put their hands over their ears and say "la la la", instead of being critical analysts of information?

chervilant's picture

the Corporatists decided that too much education was good only for the children of the privileged.

If you think our system of education works to 'educate' our children, you need to talk to a few progressive teachers.

For example, not only was I disallowed from teaching math so that my students could see where each concept fits into the whole enchilada, I was also told I'm "too intelligent to teach these kids."

Factory fodder is what the Corporatists want; factory fodder is (with rare exceptions) what they get.

SDGreg's picture

to stop reading "My Pet Goat" in a classroom during a national emergency. Obama presumably would have the sense to discontinue the broadcast if something similar were to happen. Of course, if Bush had read his security briefings rather than constantly vacationing, maybe there would have been no 9/11 and no need to stop reading in that classroom.

FloydGeorge104's picture

georgie was in a class room full of little people with the same IQ. thats why he was there, wanted to be around little people that could not chanage him.

Georgette Orwell's picture

I honestly don't remember people--of any political stripe--getting upset when G.H.W. Bush or Reagan made these kinds of talks. I really can't imagine I'd be angry or worried if President Bush had wanted to make an innocuous, fairly generic "work hard, education is important" presentation to schoolchildren. I'm having trouble understanding why people are all upset about this. What makes anyone think that kids don't hear all the other unfiltered, uncontrolled things the president--and every radio/tv nutcase in the world--says each and every day? What could possibly be included in this talk, or any other, that a parent couldn't rebut/discuss directly with a child?

fastfeat's picture

Hell, even having the Chimp speak to kids in a general, encouraging way will likely really touch a good many kids who may never get a similar experience at home or again at school. Kids will have plenty of time to learn politics later.

I know as a kid that I craved just hearing different people talk, even if I didn't get the gist of adult conversations; I later dug out the dictionary to get the definitions of words. Often the Dictionary of American Slang was a needed companion text, but...

As far as not understanding why people stupid, racist 'Murkins are upset, I think you really already know...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Can O Whoopass's picture

waiting all day as a kid for the Air Force 2 helicopter to land and hear the President but noooooo......

President Lyndon Johnson walked down a red carpet not 5 feet from me (I was thinking, wow... He looks so much bigger on tv) and i was close enough to twang his elephant ears, but his speech that day was reserved for party insiders, not us peons.

Had we been allowed to attend his speech it would have been about wingnut Texan hate of Russian commies, socialist 'chinks' and rioting American 'n*ggers'. That was the vision of the times in 1965.

brantl's picture

and Bush's speeches were laden with partisan crap, no matter where he spoke; Obama's not going to do that with the kids. Sorry, you're wrong.

brantl's picture

were factual. Bush threw most of the Bill of rights out the window. He started an agressive war against innocent people, in furtherance of our national economic interests, he's suppressed press coverage of the war,his rampant cronyism at the expense of the country.... I shouldn't have to to list this to anybody who's been paying attention, should I? The only real contrasts between Bush and Hitler come down to Hitler being smarter, and more efficient in acheiving his goals.

chris-notthetroll's picture

DN:

A team of doctors analyzed the details of the CIA’s Inspector General report on prisoner interrogation that the Justice Department released last week. Among other revelations, the report detailed how medical professionals collected data on the reaction of prisoners to interrogation methods in order to help the CIA assess and refine the use of waterboarding and other techniques. Physicians for Human Rights found that this data collection and analysis “may amount to human experimentation” and calls for further investigation.

Hrm... what was that other group that also used prisoners for experiments?

Terrible's picture

You know everything about every single one of the people who read C&L!

Honestly, NO, I wouldn't be. I grew up in the golden age of TV in Schools, where it was a BIG OLD TREAT to have the tv wheeled in for some kind of important event. You know what most kids did during those important speeches (I remember one from Reagan and one from Bush Sr)? They didn't pay one whit of attention. Some slept. Some talked. I think I stared at some boy I liked. Presidents addressing school children is as American as m&m's and fritos in the school vending machine. "I believe the children are our future" and all that shit.

We used to have to do studies like this back in the sixties and seventies.
There was no internet only TV, radio and the printed word, but the idea was to get students to understand civics and the way our political system works.
We were also encouraged to do debate on the speeches and share on the topics at hand.
Of course after Bush why would you be shocked that the right wing would have a problem with free speech?
Or how to use it being taught.

noonan2's picture

What exactly was President Bush doing when the planes hit the Twin Towers?

Rich in San Bruno's picture
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Vincennes's picture

Republicans really aren't doing themselves any favors by equating Obama and his policies with Hitler and the Nazis. Much like the GOP's anti-Sotomayor stance which really didn't view favorably with Latinos, pushing the Obama=Hitler mantra is going to alienate Jews _ I mean the ones who actually favor the GOP. Jews understand better than others that Hitler was the worst kind of evil and the GOP's insistence of using the language and images of Hitler/Nazism really undermines what Hitler and Nazis did and really shows how GOP ignorance and insensitivity.

Shame on them.

Liberalicious's picture

is the last refuge of a scroundrel........

or something like that.

Stellar Moose's picture

Technically Hitler does take a back seat to Stalin in the amount of evil perpetrated. But as Eddie Izzard is fond of pointing out, as long as it's your own people, we're alright with that.

I just attended the John Kerry town meeting outside of Boston, and the Lyndon LaRouche cult was in the parking lot,singing patriotic songs,and holding large amd small posters of Obama defaced to look like Hitler, and they insisted Obama IS a Nazi..

But I recall the days when they said the same about Bush and Cheney..perhaps to LaRouche cult memebers, everyone is a Nazi...

Ever debate a LaRouche devotee? those people are crazy...

Floridiot's picture

Jumped the fence to the far con side a while ago, just read their shit from ten years ago vs now

Just like that crazy Horowitz dude

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz_%...

fiver's picture

... My The Pet Goat aloud?


Corruption favors the wealthy.

of ultralights and collapse into a twisted pile of substandard Chinese steel and skewered bloviators.

Hey, a guy can dream...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Handypants's picture

If Obama's grandfather had actually made money investing with the real Nazi's?

Wow


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

chris-notthetroll's picture

"When the president browbeats property owners who want to protect their legal rights… "

Wasn't it during the Bush Adm. when the Xtreem Court ruled it was a-ok for local govt to use Imminent Domain to take your property and give it away to a private company?

"when the president admits he doesn't know the facts but impugns the integrity of a police force… "

Bush Justice Department. OLC cover-my-ass-please memos. Torture. Mandatory loyalty oaths.

"when the president calls me a liar for reporting what is actually in the health care bills and encourages my neighbors to report me to some enemies list… "

"Anyone who doesn't wear a made-in-China flag lapel pin Hates America and Wants Our Soldiers To Die." The TIPS program, with the 800 number that went direct to FOX's hit TV show America's Most Wanted.

"when the president apologizes to nations around the world and bows to a Saudi king… he loses the benefit of the doubt"

The nickname 'Bandar Bush' was not invented by people who didn't like the president.

JustMyWords's picture

Actually, it was NOT during the Bush Adm. that SCOTUS allowed eminent domain to be used in such a fashion. (And, incidentally, the 5th Amendment has always allowed eminent domain, the only thing that has changed is the accepted meaning of 'public use.') You might want to take a look at Berman v. Parker, 1954.

Terrible's picture

Your mind may not being serving you well today. SCOTUS most certainly did make a ruling on an eminent domain case during the Bush reign of terror!!! Just because it wasn't the first time does NOT mean that it didn't happen.

chris-notthetroll's picture

Kelo v. City of New London is what I was referring to. It was recalled from a hazy half-memory and I didn't look it up before posting which is why I said "Wasn't it during...?" That probably also explains why I didn't bother to know the difference in imminent and eminent. xD

But even if all my counterpoints were factually incorrect, it would still be just as legitimate as the complete bullshit argument I was refuting!

Quasi's picture

This isn't a Hitler Youth Brigade for Americans.

This is a Jesus Camp for sane parents' kids.

brobob's picture

i'm kind of struck by the photo and quote taken entirely out of context and the image of "their " idealized youth in danger. wtf an ayran? what kind of mixed message is this? on many levels. the crazy people aren't the messengers but those who they are pumping the message. hasn't that been obvious for a while. its vicious.


brobob

Hechicera's picture

Here ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2rJP-udUs

We absolutely can not watch this Hilter=Obama video without falling on the floor laughing.

brobob's picture
yes

i'm still laughing. i love that the comment section was closed. fuckin-a thanks


brobob

Hechicera's picture

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liberalvan's picture

I am just so amazed how in six years these same people were willing to follow the president to war but now do not even have the common courtesy and respect for the president to have him speak to kids about staying in school and working hard.

listening to one elected as their leader is shameful.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

ThatDeborahGirl's picture

And accepting help from the brown guy (who just happens to be POTUS!) in the form of healthcare is humiliating.

"Americans" give charity brown people as they see fit, not the other way around.

brobob's picture

has always been a grand thing for kids. dang, this is the "biggest" thing to be for a kid. in my time. and he's going to address them just like any PARENT would do, not as a politician. GG has a post today with the updates that include a jesus camp for bush. friggin incredible.


brobob

They can't handle the turnaround.

Obama talks to schoolkids like they're adults.

Bush talked to adults like they were school children.

that's so funny and so true.

fastfeat's picture

,


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

brantl's picture

Second that!

...gay President. These mad sick fuckers will commit mass suicide.

Hechicera's picture

My bet is on a Republican though. Outed, irrefutably while in office.

JohnnyBravo's picture

with popcorn!


NOBODY 2012

boocilla69's picture

cuz that would be one fine inauguration. I'm also hoping there would be a secretary of fashion and club hopping. I loves my GLBT friends!!!

calgarylady's picture

There should also be a Department of Fabulous!

Go wild, dahlings!

;)

Then it wouldn't be Aretha's hat making the news, it would be the POTUS's hat.

dough448's picture

Unless the message is brief and contains a shiny object it won't pass the generational illiteracy filter.

redsaunas's picture

Pat tells us the AH was really not such a bad fella, so if Obama is the New Hitler...well, look on the bright side -- the trains should run on time and before long there'll be a kickin' freeway network.

MF17TN's picture

President Obama should tell the children before he speaks that he wants to rule out all Pinko/communist sympathisers by first having all the kids recite a secrete oath of allegiance to the USA, with pinky promises. Then lead them in Pledge of Allegiance, arresting any child who does not say loudly "under God". Then like in the Italian movie "Life is Beautiful" show how the American nose and ears are the most perfect in the world- then end it by pulling out his covered hand gun and proudly hold it up... maybe then these wingnut parents will be pleased.

TuxedoCartman's picture

Ok, time out!!! I'm pretty certain it's in the rules that you can't compare Obama to Hitler on the same day Pat Buchanan is on TV defending Hitler's actions in World War II!

These people really have truly lost their minds, haven't they? They're just lashing out and saying anything and everything that comes to mind to disagree with liberals (and reality). I'm starting to hope we get a public option passed with a rider for mental health care, because it seems a lot of people need it.

MF17TN's picture

those wingnuts would all decry any Mental health care in the bill...you can hear them now, " Obamas putting inplants in our heads to control and moniter our thought..blah, blah, blah."

I don't get the line "letting an entire city of American brown people die". Any nudge on what it means? Is it New Orleans or somewhere else?

roooth's picture

these nuts and the Congresspeople who pander to them, should not be allowed to have ANYthing to do with fixing health care, or, for that matter, anything that affects any of our lives. Because they are nuts. Certifiable.

Dan Savage is right; the GOP pandered to their crazy base to the point where the crazy base is running the party - and they are bat-shit crazy.

Which, to paraphrase Bill Maher, is about all you can expect from people whose religion, and therefore their belief about the fate of the whole world, is based on whether or not one should listen to a talking snake.

DarkStar's picture

C'mon really righties, I can't keep this up any more... Gasping and saying: "Oh Sh**" every five minutes is wearing me out.
And for cryin out loud, pick a wingnutty side already, Obama is either Hitler or Stalin, you can't have both - Geez!

JohnnyBravo's picture

Obama is a dragon. He has never on television or interviews say he WASN't a dragon, has he?

Stop laughing at me...


NOBODY 2012

Seriously. This shit is getting SO old. I can't believe we will have to listen to another at least 3, hopefully 7 more years of this. I try to tell myself that they were bad under Clinton, too, but I don't remember them being THIS vocal or THIS obnoxious. Jesus, when will they shut the fuck up???

tiger313's picture

by the next election no one will believe a damn word they scream. Hopefully the screaming will be done from inside their healthcare free FEMA camps.

Kanzeon's picture

I'm beyond the point of astonishment. I'm beyond the point of derision or ridicule.

I can tell myself that it's partly the economy, the unease of the times, or the shock of the hard Republican fall. But that doesn't explain it.

I can remember that there was a Clinton Body Count in the 90s. I remember it well. But it was effectively marginalized, and not orchestrated.

Now, I can appreciate that conservatives get miffed at whatever Obama does - have newspeople in the White House, have dinner on the town, or talk to schoolchildren. That's petty stuff that just happens.

But this constant Nazi talk is just insane, and it is way too aggressively pushed by too large a segment of the Republican party to consider it funny.

It isn't going to get better. Winning another election won't make it better. This is inciting violence. Then, when there is another Ruby Ridge or Waco incident, it will be a rallying point, and it will get even worse.

I'm more and more discouraged about my country. It would be bad enough if Obama were a corporate sell out, but being a corporate sell out AND being attacked as a radical is just too much for a sane person to take.

I thought that the defeat of the Republicans would cure me of my desire to just get the hell out of this national nut house and move to Canada. But, unfortunately, I feel almost as hopeless now as I did in the darkest days of Bush.

Jafafa Hots's picture

I am deeply worried about this country.

The reason these insane whackjobs are everywhere and have such a loud voice is a direct result of our economic system and the way we've embraced capitalism like a religion (rather than just a system with advantages and disadvantages) and demonized Socialism as evil (instead of as a system with advantages and disadvantages.
And laid everything out as black and white as if it's not actually possible to have a country that is capitalist and socialist without that being a contradiction.

What I think happened is this - when broadcasting was invented, both we and the europeans saw that the radio spectrum belonged to everyone and needed to be used to everyone's benefit.

In the UK, that meant used to provide quality education and information and yes, entertainment. So the BBC was set up, people paid a tax to support it, and it broadcast in the public interest.

Here in the US, "the public interest" was seen as simple cash flow. So the spectrum was auctioned off to the highest bidder, who then made the sole purpose of broadcasting be profit. Essentially corporations paid a $5 fee for the right to print $100 bills.

Here, the purpose of broadcasting is corporate profit. The PRODUCT of broadcasters is - viewer's eyes. They sell those eyes to advertisers. Advertising is the purpose of broadcasting. The stuff between the commercials is merely the bait.

These huge corporate owners of the American broadcast system know that informing and educating their viewers is dangerous, harmful to corporate control. So they feed us bullshit. Lies.

Decades of being deliberately misinformed have taken their toll. Unlike in other countries where people are much better informed, we here know the "truths" that our corporate nannies have spoonfed is.
America can do no wrong.
America won every war it ever fought.
Americans were always on the right side, and didn't start it.
American represents a beacon of freedom and democracy across the world.
Anyone who says the US ousted their democratically-elected leader and installed a fascist puppet is a lying America-hater.
We have the best EVERYTHING here, and life is miserable everywhere else, and the only reason the people in other places say that's not true is because they hate us for being better in every way than they are.
Socialism is evil. Corporate tax breaks are freedom, necessary for the common man, and in NO WAY a form of socialism.

etc.

Basically, we're fucked.

Tax the Rich's picture

Veru astute.

Buy allowing liars to broadcast bullshit unchallenged 24/7 for decades, we have a society that is so misinformed - most people don't even realize facts really do exist. They think everything is opinion.


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

JohnF's picture

when I genuinely think these wing nuts could kick start a second civil war.

They seem to have such a poor grip on reality, that it seems it will always be impossible to reason with them.

And just like having a rabid dog in the neighbourhood, the likelihood is that he's gonna attack at some point.

Between their hatred of everything liberal, everything they perceive as un-American, everyone that doesn't think the same way they do... it's a volatile situation. I wish my knowledge of history was better, so I could know if this sort of thing is unprecedented in American history.

IT's always existed and you can see similar reactions to FDR..

Tax the Rich's picture

That's what it's going to take to get rid of these morons and neuter the republifascist party.


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

proudlyprogressive's picture

I'm scared of them, too. In fact it was their rise to visual/vocal power that made me leave the USofBLOODYISRAEL.

God, Marry me. Watching these people scream is about to drive me to drink.

sharksbreath's picture

He explained the Republicans world and doesn't even know it.

He was having a discussion with a senior editor of the National Review.

The Senior Writer never heard of Monica Goodling.

Here is the passage.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/0...

Nordlinger replies reasonably enough but, fascinatingly, says he never heard about these DOJ incidents and has never even heard of Monica Goodling. I believe him. Think about that: all those major Bush DOJ scandals about illegally using political considerations in DOJ hirings and the potentially illegal firing of U.S. attorneys -- scandals which centrally involved Goodling, prompted numerous Congressional hearings, and were continuously the subject of major news coverage -- were ones about which the Senior Editor of National Review remained blissfully ignorant. Stories of corruption, wrongdoing and even lawbreaking at high levels of the Bush administration just never penetrated Fox News, Drudge and/or National Review, and thus to the Right -- even to someone who makes his living writing about politics -- these events did not really exist. That's what "right-wing cocoon means" -- creating your own pleasant version of "reality" and eliminating anything unpleasant.

He calls it a cocoon. I call it a Mental Disease.

all hail the hypno toad's picture

Aren't those the college republicans?

Right. Because nothing says nazism like a black man recruiting blond/blue-eyed aryan youth. Not much of a contradiction in that poster, is there? But the wingnuts will never see it.


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

I'm surprised these brick-brained, knuckle-dragging poltroons manage to breathe in and out without instructions.

Heh. That made me laugh.


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

chris-notthetroll's picture

...when they try to eat a pretzel.

brantl's picture

I wasn't drinking when I read this.

believe that the "free market" is what works in the way of Economics for the last 30 years? Instead of a workable Kensian model, we have a divide and plunder model that is designed to destroy the middle class and establish a permanent two class system in America: the working poor and the mega rich


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

Tax the Rich's picture

And these morons still haven't figured that out.


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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But of course it's NOT when Bush did it...
... YES?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bATjvty5p8k

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

Kreskin's picture

It's gotten so out of hand and such a joke that I think they are going to wear it out and even the STUPID people are going to get tired of it and realize it's rediculous nonsense . I don't think the Repugs are attracting anyone to their party that's for sure . The only way the Repugs can win is if the Dems self sabotage and self deafeat ... and they will , just as sure as hell .

Tax the Rich's picture

They aready have, thanks to the republicans (bluedogs) in our own party.


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

AgentMacGyver's picture

Susie. How about mentioning previous presidents' outreach to grade school kids?

WTF??

You guys are keeping us up awake at night down there with all the yelling! Settle down! :)

But seriously, wow. I thought the last 8 years for America was eFFed.

You really know how to keep the rest of the civilized world interested.

I (and when I use the pronoun "I", I mean well, just about everyone on the planet) am stunned, shocked, amazed, appalled, horrified and disgusted at what has become of political discourse in the Excited States of America.

Why not just plan a March of Reality to Washington! I am not being facetious! Organize a giant push back against these waves of dangerously deranged fools. They will destroy your country and most are not even aware of the damage they are doing. Clearly the tried and unfortunately oft used "ignore-the-dung-flinging-insane-primates" that your Democratic Party too often enacts will not suffice this time. Take back reality! This last election; sane minds prevailed! Prove it!

Then turn out the lights and let us up North get comfy again. We have a long winter coming quickly to sleep through and your TV season does not look good enough to stay up for this year. Sorry, but you should not have canceled Arrested Development, it was a fave.

Just sayin...

Much LUV and hope you work things out.

Canada.

Tax the Rich's picture

March of Reality? I like it!

Be thankful you don't live in a country where 46% of the population is dumber than dung - and proud of it.

And willing to kill to stay dumb.


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

-Bricked-'s picture

It was considered an honor to have the president come visit a school. Now the president happens to be a black guy and people start shitting bricks? This is embarrassing, it's just more crap for my Canadian relatives to rip on me with.

This crap just boarders on self-parody, this is the kind of crap I'd expect to see on MadTV or something.

As much as I despised George Bush, I'm quite certain I would not have gone ape shit if he had wanted to give a short address to school children. I certainly wouldn't have made a big stink about it or forbidden my children from watching. It's totally absurd. What is wrong with these people?

Tool of Society's picture

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_p...

Any records of junior doing it?

ysbaddaden's picture
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Seems to me they should be more concerned that right-wing extremist groups are infiltrating our military, due to reduced standards to fill recruiting quotas, and of course the recruiting of returning soldiers. There's definitely shades of Croix de Feu there.

The Feu, the proud, the Marines.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Tax the Rich's picture

These people are so fucking stupid, they don't even know the definitions of the words they use! THEY are rhe fascists.

How do you talk to morons who not only deny facts, but completely change the definitions of words. I wonder if they think being called to arms by Fox is recruitment?


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

proudlyprogressive's picture

Classic Projections. They think other people are doing what they have already done, and so they have to scream looking into the mirror, because they are incapable of thought.

chris-notthetroll's picture

They know they are good people. They love Jesus. They go to church every week. They think torture is OK. They think it's OK to let poor people starve, or drown, or sit at home and die of some simple medical condition because if Jesus didn't want poor people to die He would have given them good health insurance and made them rich. And they know it's OK, because if it wasn't, Jesus would have used His Cosmic Intercom to make the voices in their heads tell them so.

Since they know they are good people and all those horrible things are OK, they freak out imagining the depraved evil shit those Godless Satan-worshiping Democrats want to do.

They are literally terrified of what they see as The Other, the Alien, the Black President. It would be comical if it wasn't so sad and infuriating

RayFerd's picture

that keep harping on Obama and HItler, I have two words for them:

Prescott Bush

proudlyprogressive's picture

Fascist plotter who got turned in by General Smedly Butler!! He loved him some NAZI's who ordered their ovens from Prescott. I've looked at the BUSHCRIMEFAMILY and all the way back to Ireland, they have been traitors and theives.

mbartesq's picture

The Republicans don't want smart educated kids. Dumb uneducated kids become Republicans.

ThatDeborahGirl's picture

What is wrong with these "Americans" (read white conservative Americans, because that's what they mean when they say "Americans") are a bunch of bigots plain and simple.

They don't trust Obama, much the way they're afraid of the ubiquitous black male they're always looking for on your local news.

They don't believe Obama but they'll believe Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.

Bush/Cheney/Rove lied is into war. They're heroes. Clinton sullied the Oval House with his over"blown" sex scandal.

And Obama - in all dignity and sincerity things it's time for all American CITIZENS (not just those with a lot of money!) to be able to see a doctor when they need to for crying out loud!

And for that he's a socialist dictator to be equated with hitler.

There's nothing "crazy" or "wacky" about this behavior or this rhetoric. It's dangerous, shameful and based in racism, bigotry and ignorance. There's no need to ask "what's wrong with these people?"

What's wrong with them is the same thing that allowed slavery and Jim Crow and Klan and the Era of Lynching and still allows voter suppression and red lining and a man with the august stature of Professor Gates to be arrested on his front porch while some white sex offender can imprison an entire family in his backyard and never so much as have his property searched.

White PEOPLE! All of you! Wake up. Stop asking what's wrong and start calling these folks out for the ignorant bigots they are. Shine the light on their ignorance and stop pretending it's just everyday political rhetoric because it's NOT.

Stop looking for the nameless black male and start fighting against the filth that is the "American" mind.

EarthAbides's picture

Calling Obama Hitler is code for "black man in the whitehouse." We need to start calling these people racists over and over and over again!

Planet73's picture

Amen. It's plain and simple. Obama's rise to the presidency has succeeded in exposing the hidden racism of a great many conservatives in this country. I see it and hear it every single day. Where? On TV, radio, and in public gathering places. Led by the likes of Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh, they can try to camouflage "it" by sounding out extreme themes like Nazism, Liberalism, and Socialism. But all of it in the end is just a cover for the real source of their hatred - their guy got beat by a smart black man. I am reminded of Jackie Robinson, Bill Willis and Marion Motley - the first blacks signed by the Cleveland Browns the same year Jackie was signed - along with countless others who broke the color barrier and had to put up with this disgusting reaction. I even hear similar racist jokes and comments about Tiger Woods today. Racism has always been there, but now it's got a new coat of paint. Shiny bright red paint. In many ways, Obama broke the ultimate color barrier - The U.S. presidency. Like those before him, he will have to endure the very same racial gauntlet. Why would we expect anything different from this group of white thugs?

fastfeat's picture

One of these days, I truly hope someone like KO, Rachel, or Jack Cafferty will discuss be allowed to discuss this issue where millions will see this brought to light.

Sadly, Obama, despite his early attempt to discuss race during the campaign, can't get through to these f*cks. It will take, sadly, other white folks to have any chance of changing minds.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

chris-notthetroll's picture

How dare you suggest such a thing! These fine upstanding patriotic American parents just don't want Obama teaching their kids how to play dice in a back alley or rob liquor stores.

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brantl's picture

are scared shitless of how popular Obama is, plain and simple.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

"'Without benefit of the doubt, the president doesn't get to speak to my children unchallenged,' the writer said."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-y2QghS2gU


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
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Shouldn't these people compare notes first with the Uberdumbkopf pat buchanan?

Comparing Obama to Hitler to him would be over-emphasizing the qualities of the former.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

chicano2nd's picture

and what Bush was a Nazi sympathizer (huh decendants of Prescott?)

Mike Burns's picture

There is a real difference between the rancor that accompanied the Clinton administration and now. This has gone way beyond simple partisanship and has entered the realm of absolute terror. They have become so afraid of Obama that it is making them irrational. Whether it is race, religion, loss of power and status or just pure paranoia, they will do anything, I repeat, anything to tear this President down.

Mike Burns
http://www.disorderlyreport.com/

Has anyone done a study yet on the effect this calling Obama Hitler is having on the Neo-Nazi's psych. I figure by this point they must not know whether to shit or go blind.

zomaha's picture

Simply unreal. How everything this guy is trying to do can be turned into something so vile and disgusting is truly beyond me.

These people are losing it. They really think Obama would try to recruit his "Hitler Youth" via a speech given to students that others around the entire world would still have access to. Do they think this is some conspiracy? That there are no "watch dog" groups to look out for this sort of thing?

Complete detachment from reality, folks. These people aren't even thinking about the parents of most of these children, and how they would probably not be OK with their son or daughter joining Obama's imaginary Army. Who would?!? Nobody, but these folks seem to think we're all on board and they're the only sane people left to defend America.

I call this a primitive mindset. These folks have small, simple brains that doesn't allow them to think critically of anything.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Waittasec

What are they more afraid of, little back kids

Or little blonde kids?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aA2HliA1KE


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

chervilant's picture

I had a lengthy conversation with one of my Republican friends just last week. The main topic of our chat was health insurance reform. I first had to remind my friend of my pacifism, because he started our conversation with disparaging, bigoted remarks about Obama and 'the Democrats' who are shoving cost-prohibitive health care down our throats (he knows that I do not appreciate hearing hateful talk about anyone, regardless of party affiliation, but he persists).

Once I redirected his bile, he started to regurgitate insupportable talking points. I began asking him in-depth questions about each of his points--questions that required that he validate each point and provide verifiable facts in support of his assertions. He quite rapidly devolved into, "Well, I'm not much of a debater... I just know this is what I believe."

Then, I switched gears and asked him what kind of plan he would like to see implemented. He had no idea what reforms have been promoted thus far, and could not offer any suggestions of his own. After a few moments of silence, he asserted that he's "just tired of big government."

The Corporatists are keenly aware of the efficacy of targeting their audiences' baser emotions. They know how to use simplistic, hateful propaganda to further their goals and to entrench their supporters in solid opposition to whatever group is perceived as the most threatening.

It doesn't help our species to point out that this is fascism, or to make any other pejorative observations about this pathetic group of fearful and hateful human beings. It is up to those of us who are committed to peace and spiritual progress to find ways to break through the bigotry, and to communicate effectively. God knows the Angry Group is not going to make this effort.

I'm not saying we should ignore the hatemongers, or allow them to continue to spill their bile. Barney Franks recently illustrated how to actively refute some of the most ridiculous assertions. We have had some commendable success in addressing Glenn Beck's most recent gradoo. But, these are small, isolated victories, and we cannot rest. As frustrating as it often is, WE must take the high road, and do the hard work required to get our species to the other side of this spiritual abyss.

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